Oso planning to go pro
I've been looking for some kind of precedent for point guards who significantly reduce their turnover percentage after their freshman season.Perhaps the best example is Demetrious Jackson of Notre Dame. In his sophomore season, Jackson cut his TO% during ACC conference play in half.Marcus Paige is another pretty good case, cutting his TO% in conference play by over 40% in his second year. Yogi Ferrell of Indiana: a 30% reduction. Kris Dunn posted an abysmal TO% in his freshman year, but managed to improve after that after that (although he was still turnover-prone).Is it realistic to expect Traci to do the same? If he doesn't improve, will Rowsey (with half the TO%) take over at point?
No. Traci's TO rates far exceeded the guys you mention. HOPE & PRAY for 22%, but that's gonna be tough. Projects to 24%
I'm curious, what's the projection based on?And if Traci doesn't show significant improvement, do you think Rowsey is a better option at point?
Projection is based on a proprietary modelMarkus Howard is the truth
Carter will not have as many turnovers as last year for a couple of reasons, 1) Being older, learning the college game, that alone should make him better2) Howard3) RowseyIf he played the same as last year, he could become the 12th man. As Al stated, Freshman become Sophomores, and I believe the biggest jump in there gameis the second year, of course, for Vader Blue, JJJ, it was the 3rd year.
He'll cut down on them because he won't see the floor nearly as much. Rowsey and Cheatham can handle the point and I'm guessing Howard will take some of his minutes.
I looked at last year's MU stats. Of course this does not take into account the position played or number of minutes played, but these players had the most turnovers.1. Haanif 88 freshmen2. Henry 79 freshmen3. Carter 77 freshmen4. Wilson 67 sophomoreConclusion youth = turnovers.
And I project that Markus Howard won't see much time at the point guard position until after Traci graduates.
Haha... conclusion is relatively true but your analysis also doesn't take into account how the player plays / their role on the offense. Henry & Duane's turnover rates were fine; Haanif's was bad and Carter's was horrendous
Did you read the first sentence?
I think you mean second sentence, but yes - quite funny! "Hey I know this 'analysis' doesn't make any sense, but I'm going to go ahead & do it anyway!!"
I doubt Cheatham will play much point this year. Unless injuries become an issue.
There are two players barring injury that are guaranteed to start. Fischer at center and Haanif at any of the other four positions. Where Haanif plays depends on who wins the other three starting spots. I would be surprised if point is not manned by either Carter, Howard or Rowsey. However, what happens if Wojo thinks the best starting team has Hauser, Reinhardt and JJJ in the lineup? Please do not comeback and say that is not going to happen. I am not debating how likely it is. It is a what if question. Basically, it is the only way Haanif ends up at point.
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
Honestly,Not the worst take on this site. Traci Carter was MU's second best player in 2015-16. (not the team was good). That year he was tied with Henry with the highest +/-. Despite playing 10mpg less than him.The next year he was out recruited over twice by Andrew Rowsey and Markus Howard, and he played 8 games, starting 4 before transferring. And while Carter lost his spot, he said the reason he transfer was to be close to home in Philadelphia, and he went to La Salle. At the time his mom was struggling with addiction. After leaving, Traci Carter was then the best player on 4 separate teams. La Salle in 2018-19, and 3 years at Hartford from 2019-20, until 2021-22.That includes a Hartford Team that made the tournament in 2020-21.
Yeah Traci wasn’t very good.
compared to who? compared to the members of the 2016-2017 team, or our first six in 2022-23. Sure fine. they rest of his teammates his freshman year. No, not true. That team sucked.
Compared to the quality of players Marquette should be recruiting. The guy transferred down twice for a reason.
Oh you were serious ?
First sentence, fine, wojo sucked.The reason he transferred is well documented, 1. his mom was struggling with drug abuse and 2. he transferred in to La Salle when there was a different coach.
But was he better than John Dawson ?
3. He wasn’t very good.
Lol. Might be the most odd posts in awhile. Guy claiming Traci was second best player on the team… like, witaf??