If Henry Stayed ...

[Lighthouse 84]

Yes, let's play the "what if" game.

What if Butch, Bo and The Dream were all in this team, and Al was the coach? 

HE is not on this team.  HE Is gone. The time to move on has passed, Heisy. 

[wadesworld]

Yes, let's play the "what if" game.

What if Butch, Bo and The Dream were all in this team, and Al was the coach? 

HE is not on this team.  HE Is gone gowne. The time to move on has passed, Heisy.

FIFY.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I don't think its a crazy question but maybe too soon to call.

I can't really think of a scenario where we would be worse, because what college team would be worse with an NBA player added to it.  I would have loved to have seen HE with the level of guard talent we have this year. 

[Lennys Tap]

Yes, let's play the "what if" game.

What if Butch, Bo and The Dream were all in this team, and Al was the coach? 

HE is not on this team.  HE Is gone. The time to move on has passed, Heisy.

Why do the MU fans who don't want to play this "what if" game feel the need to criticize those MU fans who think it's an interesting thing to contemplate? Aren't interested in the topic? Fine. Don't participate. Butt out and let interested parties have a discussion. Sheesh.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Would be interesting to see if Reinhardt would have still come and if someone besides Wally would have left.

I think Henry would make this a top 25 team easy. The success would depend on how his three point shooting improved and if he would accept a lesser role. I don't think last year's strategy of give the ball to Henry and see what he can do would be right for this team.

I also don't understand the hand wringing about this topic. It's an interesting what if.

[Lennys Tap]

 I don't think last year's strategy of give the ball to Henry and see what he can do would be right for this team.

I agree with your entire post but especially this part - I don't think it was right for last year's team either.

[wadesworld]

People get upset about the topic because there was quite literally never a chance that Hank was around for this year.  If it was something like the Vander situation where chances were he wasn't getting drafted but still could've played at MU, then sure it's an interesting topic.  But talking about what the team would look like had Hank stayed would be like talking about what the 2003-2004 team would've looked like had Wade stuck around and recruited LeBron to join him for a year at Marquette.  Never was going to happen.

[BubbaWilliams]

  If it was something like the Vander situation where chances were he wasn't getting drafted but still could've played at MU, then sure it's an interesting topic. 

That one still hurts.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

People get upset about the topic because there was quite literally never a chance that Hank was around for this year.  If it was something like the Vander situation where chances were he wasn't getting drafted but still could've played at MU, then sure it's an interesting topic.  But talking about what the team would look like had Hank stayed would be like talking about what the 2003-2004 team would've looked like had Wade stuck around and recruited LeBron to join him for a year at Marquette.  Never was going to happen.

[MU82]

People get upset about the topic because there was quite literally never a chance that Hank was around for this year.  If it was something like the Vander situation where chances were he wasn't getting drafted but still could've played at MU, then sure it's an interesting topic.  But talking about what the team would look like had Hank stayed would be like talking about what the 2003-2004 team would've looked like had Wade stuck around and recruited LeBron to join him for a year at Marquette.  Never was going to happen.

I'm not the least bit "upset" about the topic. It's just silly and so unrealistic that we might as well discuss a hypothetical about what if Hank had stayed and played while riding a unicorn.

I like the Wade/LeBron analogy, wades. Spot on.

[GGGG]

I'm not the least bit "upset" about the topic. It's just silly and so unrealistic that we might as well discuss a hypothetical about what if Hank had stayed and played while riding a unicorn.

Depends.  Is it a unicorn that poops rainbows or candy?

[Lennys Tap]

I'm not the least bit "upset" about the topic. It's just silly and so unrealistic that we might as well discuss a hypothetical about what if Hank had stayed and played while riding a unicorn.

I like the Wade/LeBron analogy, wades. Spot on.

Post #2 on why (you think) the topic doesn't deserve any discussion.

There are literally scores of topics brought up on Scoop that I have no interest in and I think are a waste of time. So I don't waste my time on them. Simple, no?

[BM1090]

I loved watching Henry last year. I am thankful for his contributions.

That said, I already am having more fun watching this year's team than I did at any point last year

[real chili 83]

Depends.  Is it a unicorn that poops rainbows or candy?

Real Chili.

[MU82]

Post #2 on why (you think) the topic doesn't deserve any discussion.

There are literally scores of topics brought up on Scoop that I have no interest in and I think are a waste of time. So I don't waste my time on them. Simple, no?

Yeah ... but it's fun crapping on 'em sometimes.

Guilty as charged.

[slack00]

All we really know is that if Henry Ellenson stayed he would have earned less money playing basketball in the 2016-17 season than he is this year.  There are too many variables to make any argument as to whether this MU team would be better or worse, whether Henry would have a better NBA career, or whether Henry would make more money in his career.

[MUDPT]

Fortunately SI ran the projections, we would be pretty good.

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2016/11/04/what-if-omari-spellman-villanova-allonzo-trier-arizona

[GB Warrior]

Fortunately SI ran the projections, we would be pretty good.

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2016/11/04/what-if-omari-spellman-villanova-allonzo-trier-arizona

"THAT SETTLES IT"

-No Scooper ever

[Class71]

It seems that we lost a first round pick and got better.  The reason appears to be we are a better shooting team with the new additions.

If Henry had stayed, how much better would we be?  Would we be better?

Thoughts?

I don't think about history or what ifs.

[Lennys Tap]

Yeah ... but it's fun crapping on 'em sometimes.

LOL. Point taken.

[Lennys Tap]

Fortunately SI ran the projections, we would be pretty good.

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2016/11/04/what-if-omari-spellman-villanova-allonzo-trier-arizona

Several Scoopers have cancelled their SI subscriptions for wasting their time on silly what ifs!

[MU82]

Several Scoopers have cancelled their SI subscriptions for wasting their time on silly what ifs!

Wait ... SI still exists?

[brandx]

It seems that we lost a first round pick and got better.  The reason appears to be we are a better shooting team with the new additions.

Thoughts?

Or maybe cuz we have 3 seniors in the starting lineup and last year we had 3 freshmen in the starting lineup much of the time.

[Lennys Tap]

Wait ... SI still exists?

Hangin' on by its fingernails (like most print media). Maybe clever, insightful and interesting articles like their "What if" college BB piece (the stats and insight/opinion were actually a nice departures from old news recaps and People type bios they now feature) will save them!

[Loose Cannon]

I don't think about history or what ifs.

Yep
 
The "What ifs"  about the Future events are interesting and might be graded and Might actually happen for all to see.  But "What ifs" regarding the Past may be nice to fill time, but no chance of them happening.