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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: steff_mckee on April 15, 2019, 02:06:16 PM
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They’ll pull a Juan Anderson and jake Thomas and return
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Michigan state makes the most sense if they want a proven coach.
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as opposed to the fundamentally sound coach at UVA who just won a nation champioship?
I they go to Wisconsin, I may just quit watching college basketball..
Michigan state makes the most sense if they want a proven coach.
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As far away as they can from Wisconsin.
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If they go to wisconsin i will lose respect
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as opposed to the fundamentally sound coach at UVA who just won a nation champioship?
I they go to Wisconsin, I may just quit watching college basketball..
Michigan state is a lot closer then Virginia.
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Nebraska
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Is Ty Jerome gone for sure? Otherwise does Virginia have room?
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Do I have this correct? If Sam has not graduated he would have to sit out a year. Since Joey burned his redshirt he would also have to sit out a year burning a year of eligibility. So Sam could play with Joey one more season. How many schools would take them as a package? Would it be better if they went to different schools?
I know pretty much anyone here does not care.
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TAMU??
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ND could use them.
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Can we add an option of "Who Gives a Crap?"
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Do I have this correct?
You are correct. Sam will not be a grad transfer, they both have to sit out a year.
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They’ll pull a Juan Anderson and jake Thomas and return
Ha. I forgot about that.
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They grew up in a culture that stressed team basketball. I think that kind of culture will be important to them. Lots of possibilities.
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They grew up in a culture that stressed team basketball. I think that kind of culture will be important to them. Lots of possibilities.
No, they grew up in a culture where they were “the guys” and they had trouble adapting to a different role.
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They fit into the Badger style of play and they are much closer to home than VA.
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No, they grew up in a culture where they were “the guys” and they had trouble adapting to a different role.
Did you ever watch a SPASH game?
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Did you ever watch a SPASH game?
Obviously he didn't.
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It doesn’t matter if they played “Team” basketball. Everybody in the state of Wisconsin knew Sam and Joey were the guys at SPASH.
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It doesn’t matter if they played “Team” basketball. Everybody in the state of Wisconsin knew Sam and Joey were the guys at SPASH.
Sam player next to the Co Mr. Basketball. It wasn’t just him or his little brother.
And when you watched them you had to work to pick out Sam or Joey or Trevor bc all 5 guys played as one. That sounds idealistic and I know your Dad was a coach but I’m telling you it was something to see. They were a machine.
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No, they grew up in a culture where they were “the guys” and they had trouble adapting to a different role.
This is sour grapes
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This is sour grapes
Not really, it was more stating it is what it is. Sam was my favorite player over the past three years.
Almost Every player on a high major basketball team was the guy in high school. Some players adapt, some players transfer. It’s not wrong for them to do so, they have to look out for themselves. But some players adapt better than others.
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Them ending up at UW is a nightmare, but it's hard not to see it happening.
It is no secret that they grew up Badger fans, apparently Sam's longtime GF is on the UW volleyball team, and they are also close with their HS teammate and current Badger Trevor Anderson... PUKE.
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Not really, it was more stating it is what it is. Sam was my favorite player over the past three years.
Almost Every player on a high major basketball team was the guy in high school. Some players adapt, some players transfer. It’s not wrong for them to do so, they have to look out for themselves. But some players adapt better than others.
I think you’re underselling the real issue and reason they’re transferring. This sure looks like it goes beyond wanting more touches.
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Them ending up at UW is a nightmare, but it's hard not to see it happening.
It is no secret that they grew up Badger fans, apparently Sam's longtime GF is on the UW volleyball team, and they are also close with their HS teammate and current Badger Trevor Anderson... PUKE.
The girlfriend thing is true and is not speculation in any way.
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I think you’re underselling the real issue and reason they’re transferring. This sure looks like it goes beyond wanting more touches.
Probably true. I don’t think there’s one specific reason you can point directly at.
Just a cumulative effect of a lot of things.
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If they both have to sit out a year [which to me is a travesty and makes this decision terrible for them] and its with your little brother...you might as go to Wisconsin.
But MU fans dont want to hear or see that. But that would be the best place for them. However, if they want to get away from the circus Virginia might be and option too.
Not sure what Sam is thinking...though. He is already on the NBA radar, what more does he want? He is just wasting a year. He should declare for the draft if you ask me, right now.
Of go to the G-League as a free agent if he is going to leave now. But he is worried about his little brother which is admirable.
Bad decision imo, but their's to make.
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I thought coaches could block transfers to certain schools. Is it possible to block a UW transfer?
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I would of voted Iowa St, but you left them out of the poll.
I wonder how may real possibilities there are. A school would need two scholarship openings and then have a roster that would fit both of them starting in two years. I cannot see them going to a school where both would not start.
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I would of voted Iowa St, but you left them out of the poll.
I wonder how may real possibilities there are. A school would need two scholarship openings and then have a roster that would fit both of them starting in two years. I cannot see them going to a school where both would not start.
Yea, certainly a tough situation. You would have to be a Final Four contender as well because nobody is going to take a one year rental for two years of scholarships.
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I thought coaches could block transfers to certain schools. Is it possible to block a UW transfer?
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-approves-rule-that-ends-coaches-ability-to-block-transfers/
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I’d actually love for them to go to Bucky. Can you imagine the boost to Badger Hate Week? So much fun.
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Lets remember that Bucky didn't think that Sam was good enough for them (I don't care that it was Bo who thought that, not Gard), and a potential future teammate of theirs gave Joey a good old intentional sack tapping this year (talk about chemistry issues). I don't think either of them are good enough defensively to play at UVA, and although MSU might be an option, I would bet on Nebraska. They view themselves as NBA prospects, why not go play for a former NBA coach that is known for transfers.
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Lets remember that Bucky didn't think that Sam was good enough for them (I don't care that it was Bo who thought that, not Gard), and a potential future teammate of theirs gave Joey a good old intentional sack tapping this year (talk about chemistry issues). I don't think either of them are good enough defensively to play at UVA, and although MSU might be an option, I would bet on Nebraska. They view themselves as NBA prospects, why not go play for a former NBA coach that is known for transfers.
If they aren't good enough defensively for Virginia (they're not), then they ain't gonna be good enough for Izzo either.
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Virginia landed a 6'8" 2019 PF today
https://247sports.com/college/virginia/Article/Virginia-Cavaliers-Basketball-recruiting-UVA-lands-2019-forward-Justin-McKoy-National-Champions-131227273/
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Sam is good enough defensively for UVA
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Two offensive-minded players that have NBA aspirations, want to be the primary guys on the team.
Idk, thinking rationally, you would imagine they would have a wide-open mind and consider each interested school.
Also, if they just wanted to play at UW together, Joey could have just chosen UW and Sam transferred a while back. What, did we have a better medical program than UW for him to rehab? Idk. The evidence there, along with regular old logic, doesn't make that fit seem obvious. I mean, if they really hate the system at MU, you really think they are going to choose Greg Gard of all people?
Nobody is doubting that they are both quality high-major players, I just think they will choose the best fit. This seems more of a move targeted towards their future aspirations and the need to present yourself as well as possible. At least, in their own minds. Playing for your childhood team is probably not the most critical factor. It might not even be a factor at all.
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Them ending up at UW is a nightmare, but it's hard not to see it happening.
It is no secret that they grew up Badger fans, apparently Sam's longtime GF is on the UW volleyball team, and they are also close with their HS teammate and current Badger Trevor Anderson... PUKE.
it would be kind of hilariously sad and pathetic
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If they want to play at the next level, then it’s Virginia or Michigan State. If development is a key to their future, that makes far more sense than Wisconsin.
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If they want to play at the next level, then it’s Virginia or Michigan State. If development is a key to their future, that makes far more sense than Wisconsin.
Also, if coaching is the big issue, I don’t know if Gard would be the one I’d run to.
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If Sam and Joey end up at UW, it will be the worst and most embarrassing day in the history of Marquette hoops. And I don’t even think I’m being hyperbolic.
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If they want to play at the next level, then it’s Virginia or Michigan State. If development is a key to their future, that makes far more sense than Wisconsin.
Yup, Bucky is not the route for them to the NBA.
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Yup, Bucky is not the route for them to the NBA.
Not to mention Joey did get punched in the nuts by one of their players and Sam was given a thanks but no thanks.
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Has anyone looked ... does Bucky have two open schollies to take them? Or would they walk on?
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Has anyone looked ... does Bucky have two open schollies to take them? Or would they walk on?
They do have two scholarships open
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Has anyone looked ... does Bucky have two open schollies to take them? Or would they walk on?
Their board is quite thrilled to bring them in. pretty embarrsing
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Their board is quite thrilled to bring them in. pretty embarrsing
I’ll be shocked if they don’t end up at Virginia. We can nitpick the slow pace but the offense gets open shots for guys. They’d thrive there. And win
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I just got done in another thread saying that I don't care where they end up. But I do have to admit that I would not be a happy camper if they end up in F%ckyland.
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The girlfriend thing is true and is not speculation in any way.
Sew, its a power of da pussay thin', hey?
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How is Iowa State not on the list?
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If it was UW, their first “rivalry” game would be at MU. Not ideal, but I have no idea what college students think these days. With all of the connections, surprised Iowa hasn’t been mentioned.
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Sew, its a power of da pussay thin', hey?
I hope not.
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How is Iowa State not on the list?
Or Nebraska.
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I’ll be shocked if they don’t end up at Virginia. We can nitpick the slow pace but the offense gets open shots for guys. They’d thrive there. And win
UVA mod throwing cold water on rumors
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I can’t believe I will live to see a day where Sam Hauser is wearing red and white...lol what a messed up situation
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I can’t believe I will live to see a day where Sam Hauser is wearing red and white...lol what a messed up situation
Presumably, Davison won’t be able to punch Joey in the nuts if they’re on the same team?
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UVA mod throwing cold water on rumors
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Could be fun if they went there. Could make Juzang more in play for us.
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I can’t believe I will live to see a day where Sam Hauser is wearing red and white...lol what a messed up situation
Miami heat?...…….. lol no he aint playin in the NBA
Badgers? ……… yeah that would be pretty funny to be honest. 3 years at the rival school then bolt to join em.
some Euro team that wears red and white...…... yeah probably
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Presumably, Davidson won’t be able to punch Joey in the nuts if they’re on the same team?
As much as MU fans like to think...that play was overblown and their families are close. If anything, Davidson on the roster only helps UW’s cause.
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I didn’t consider a school may not want to burn two scholarships on players who are sitting.
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I will be surprised if it's anywhere but UW
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Does Minnesota make sense for the Duo Hauser?
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Any rumors picking up steam regarding where they’re going?
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If Sam and Joey end up at UW, it will be the worst and most embarrassing day in the history of Marquette hoops. And I don’t even think I’m being hyperbolic.
Not when we still beat them in two years.
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Nebraska
I had this thought as well. Definitely my sleeper pick.
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I'll just drop this right here....
https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/sam-dekker-tells-hauser-brothers-to-come-to-the-good-side
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How many Badger fans are deleting old comments about the Hausers right now?
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Anywhere but unnatural carnal knowledgeing bucky
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It seems like an impossibility at this point, but is there any chance that the Hausers reconsider their decision and return? Perhaps cooler heads prevail?
It truly appears that this decision was made hastily.
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Badgers make the most sense it seems unfortunately. If that’s what happens it would break my heart lol
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It seems like an impossibility at this point, but is there any chance that the Hausers reconsider their decision and return?
I think it's more likely that Juan Anderson re-returns.
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It seems like an impossibility at this point, but is there any chance that the Hausers reconsider their decision and return? Perhaps cooler heads prevail?
It truly appears that this decision was made hastily.
They’re gone. They would’ve somrthting like they were “considering their options” in their announcements but both made it clear they’re transferring.
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It seems like an impossibility at this point, but is there any chance that the Hausers reconsider their decision and return? Perhaps cooler heads prevail?
It truly appears that this decision was made hastily.
C'mon dude. This is real life chit, not some Netflix feel good melodrama. Adios to all the mf'ers in this clusterfook of D-1 hoops.
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Most folks won't want to read this but I would be surprised if it's NOT UW.
1) Sam's girlfriend plays volleyball at UW
2) The Hauser and Davison families are very close
3) Their high school point guard plays at UW
4) UW has open scholarships for 2020
I don't think it's a coincidence they announced their "intentions" shortly after Howard announced he's returning. Whatever choice they make, I suspect it will be within the next month if not sooner.
Stay tuned...
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C'mon dude. This is real life chit, not some Netflix feel good melodrama. Adios to all the mf'ers in this clusterfook of D-1 hoops.
so you're transferring now too?
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Every time I see this thread, I think, "I don't care."
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Every time I see this thread, I think, "I don't care."
When I see this, I feel about the same. But also hope that we beat the crap out of them when we play them if it is the case.
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Every time I see this thread, I think, "I don't care."
We've become DePaul, aina?
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so you're transferring now too?
Nah, just changing the drill.
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We've become DePaul, aina?
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It seems like an impossibility at this point, but is there any chance that the Hausers reconsider their decision and return? Perhaps cooler heads prevail?
It truly appears that this decision was made hastily.
No. It did not end well.
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Sarcasm escapes you
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If they end up going to Wisconsin, I would screenshot every single tweet Vadger fans said about them right about now.
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If they ended up at UW, that would close the door on UW 2020 recruiting. They’re in the mix for quite a few kids. Not sure that’s Gard’s m.o., though this is obviously an unique case.
It’s why the more I think about it, they end up at a place with a lot of roster flux/flexibility. I haven’t seen it mentioned anywhere and this is pure speculation but I wonder if Otz and UNLV jump in here. They would be great in his system
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If they ended up at UW, that would close the door on UW 2020 recruiting. They’re in the mix for quite a few kids. Not sure that’s Gard’s m.o., though this is obviously an unique case.
It’s why the more I think about it, they end up at a place with a lot of roster flux/flexibility. I haven’t seen it mentioned anywhere and this is pure speculation but I wonder if Otz and UNLV jump in here. They would be great in his system
Isn't Gard in the same boat as Wojo where he needs to win soon? I think he would take 2 experienced forwards that will start in year 2 over 2 random freshmen.
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Isn't Gard in the same boat as Wojo where he needs to win soon? I think he would take 2 experienced forwards that will start in year 2 over 2 random freshmen.
Unless they collapse completely, as long as they make the tournament on a regular basis, he’s not going anywhere as long as Barry is there.
Again, this is an unique situation.
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If they ended up at UW, that would close the door on UW 2020 recruiting. They’re in the mix for quite a few kids. Not sure that’s Gard’s m.o., though this is obviously an unique case.
It’s why the more I think about it, they end up at a place with a lot of roster flux/flexibility. I haven’t seen it mentioned anywhere and this is pure speculation but I wonder if Otz and UNLV jump in here. They would be great in his system
Wisconsin would have 1 remaining scholarship available to offer class of '20 kids if the Hausers go there. They'd have Hauser, Hauser, Bowman, Wahl, Potter, Hedstrom, Currie, Davison, Reuvers, King, Ford and Trice. 12 guys.
EDIT: If people want to screenshot some posts from Badger fans after Hauser committed, here you go: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/buckyville/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=92274&p=1589694&hilit=hauser#p1589694
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Per 24/7 sports, these are the other schools that originally offered Joey: Bradley, Iowa, Iowa State, Michigan State, Nebraska, Northern Iowa, Northwestern, ND, Purdue, Virginia and Wiscosonin
These schools originally offered Sam: Virginia, Bradley, Creighton, Drake, Iowa State, Northern Iowa, Richmond, Toledo, UWGB
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No. It did not end well.
Intriguing... care to elaborate?
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Technically they could both return next year. Just because they’ve entered the protocol doesn’t mean 100% they will go. But as free agents, they can shop to see if there’s a better situation
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Unless they collapse completely, as long as they make the tournament on a regular basis, he’s not going anywhere as long as Barry is there.
Again, this is an unique situation.
Barry never wanted him in the first place...
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https://twitter.com/jaypo1961/status/1118199326361124864
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https://twitter.com/jaypo1961/status/1118199326361124864
Start those screenshots y’all.
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If they go there then in 2020-21 they would be playing a senior Sam, Davison, Trice, Reuvers, Ford and Anderson, it would be funny to watch them fall flat in a first round tourney loss
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If they go there then in 2020-21 they would be playing a senior Sam, Davison, Trice, Reuvers, Ford and Anderson, it would be funny to watch them fall flat in a first round tourney loss
I don’t think Joey would want to sit the bench in that lineup. Honestly a lineup of Reuvers, Hauser, Hauser, Davison, and Trice just doesn’t seem that good. They would be really soft defensively and slooooow. I did not expect to be pondering this thought this offseason though. Wow.
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No. It did not end well.
Nooooo it did not.
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It would also 99.9% take them out of the running for Jalen Johnson
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https://twitter.com/jaypo1961/status/1118199326361124864
Well obviously, Gard is being fired, Tony Bennett going to Wisconsin, and the Hausers are transferring there.
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Nooooo it did not.
Please share.
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I don’t think Joey would want to sit the bench in that lineup. Honestly a lineup of Reuvers, Hauser, Hauser, Davison, and Trice just doesn’t seem that good. They would be really soft defensively and slooooow. I did not expect to be pondering this thought this offseason though. Wow.
I had been thinking about this. Who in that lineup can create a shot?
How would guys like Kobe King, Micah Potter, and Tyler Wahl feel about the Hausers stepping into their minutes?
Could set off more dominoes.
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https://www.stevenspointjournal.com/story/sports/2019/04/16/marquette-shocker-hausers-seek-better-fit-former-spash-coach-says/3481168002/
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Please share.
Seriously! out with it!
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https://www.stevenspointjournal.com/story/sports/2019/04/16/marquette-shocker-hausers-seek-better-fit-former-spash-coach-says/3481168002/
Obviously they’re moving and going for a reason. Something isn’t quite right for them where they’re at. I guess to characterize it as unhappiness, I didn’t feel that. It’s a hard thing to describe. It’s a tough dynamic because I know they've said — and I talked to both of them the last couple of days — and they’re very upbeat and positive about their future and they’ve also been very positive about what they've done and what they accomplished at Marquette in the past. It hasn’t been a, 'Boy, they’ve been so unhappy' kind of thing. ... They’re interested in exploring if they can find a place that is just a little better fit for them in the future, and that’s what they’re pursuing.
If that's true, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
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If they want to play at the next level, then it’s Virginia or Michigan State. If development is a key to their future, that makes far more sense than Wisconsin.
Nonsense. Playing at UVA or MSU has zero to do with the next level. NBA scouts know what Sam is already. They look for skillsets - not numbers. Whether Sam gets drafted or not (and I don't think he will), will depend on his performances at the combine and in pre-draft team workouts.
For context, look at the Bucks. Middleton is an all-star. He averaged 11.3/4.6 at Texas A&M. Now he is an all-star. Sterling Brown averaged 8.2/4.8 at SMU. Now he's starting for the NBA's best team. Eric Bledsoe averaged 11.3/3.1 at Kentucky. Brook Lopez had averages that mirror Sam's output last year at Stanford.
1) School doesn't matter
2) Numbers don't matter
3) Skillset matters
4) Athleticism matters
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Could the Hauser brothers land at Wisconsin? Here is a look at how they fit with UW, Virginia and Michigan State
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2019/04/16/hauser-brothers-wisconsin-badgers-appear-good-fit/3483302002/
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Nonsense. Playing at UVA or MSU has zero to do with the next level. NBA scouts know what Sam is already. They look for skillsets - not numbers. Whether Sam gets drafted or not (and I don't think he will), will depend on his performances at the combine and in pre-draft team workouts.
For context, look at the Bucks. Middleton is an all-star. He averaged 11.3/4.6 at Texas A&M. Now he is an all-star. Sterling Brown averaged 8.2/4.8 at SMU. Now he's starting for the NBA's best team. Eric Bledsoe averaged 11.3/3.1 at Kentucky. Brook Lopez had averages that mirror Sam's output last year at Stanford.
1) School doesn't matter
2) Numbers don't matter
3) Skillset matters
4) Athleticism matters
Disagree that school/level of competition and numbers don't matter at all.
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Nonsense. Playing at UVA or MSU has zero to do with the next level. NBA scouts know what Sam is already. They look for skillsets - not numbers. Whether Sam gets drafted or not (and I don't think he will), will depend on his performances at the combine and in pre-draft team workouts.
For context, look at the Bucks. Middleton is an all-star. He averaged 11.3/4.6 at Texas A&M. Now he is an all-star. Sterling Brown averaged 8.2/4.8 at SMU. Now he's starting for the NBA's best team. Eric Bledsoe averaged 11.3/3.1 at Kentucky. Brook Lopez had averages that mirror Sam's output last year at Stanford.
1) School doesn't matter
2) Numbers don't matter
3) Skillset matters
4) Athleticism matters
I agree with this analysis.
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The Hausers are transferring to Wisconsin.
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The Hausers are transferring to Wisconsin.
Source? Or opinion?
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Sir
We are going to struggle next season on game predictions. We had a lot of Hauser love between us this season.
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Sir
We are going to struggle next season on game predictions. We had a lot of Hauser love between us this season.
Indeed.
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The Hausers are transferring to Wisconsin.
If true I will be there to boo them in December 2020.
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Source? Or opinion?
Solid source within MU. But not the Hausers directly. I've never been any closer to them than watching them on the court, so take it for what it is worth.
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Honestly...I'm fine with them going to the Badgers for a couple of reasons. They eat up two scholarships for players that will not see the court next year. Who knows what transpires following that? Assuming both of them play the following year, they spent two years of scholarship on only one year for Sam...and they spent 3 years of scholarship on maximum 2 years for Joey. That is a lot of scholarship capital that could go elsewhere.
Secondly, I love rivalries....This just adds more spice to the gumbo. And, let's just dream of a scenario in which MU beats them again next year in Madison (with two prime players sitting out and on the bench) and then somehow our program is beefed up again in 2020 and we beat them in Milwaukee with the full complement of Hausers....how sweet sweet sweet would that be? Hey Bucky, glad you got our leftovers...hope you enjoyed them. Now, of course, I don't see the Hausers as leftovers as I know they are very good hoops players and will fit Bucky's system well. But, the rhetoric would be fun. On the downside, if they cream us....and in the bigger picture this sets our program back into first gear, then this would really suck.
Finally, if they land them...they are probably assured that Gard stays on...and unless this gift in his lap revs up his ability to recruit top talent (which it might...big statement), I am hoping he stays there a looooong time as I just don't see him taking that program to another level. Losing Happ this year and looking at their roster next...would be a concern if I were a Badger fan.
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Nonsense. Playing at UVA or MSU has zero to do with the next level. NBA scouts know what Sam is already. They look for skillsets - not numbers. Whether Sam gets drafted or not (and I don't think he will), will depend on his performances at the combine and in pre-draft team workouts.
For context, look at the Bucks. Middleton is an all-star. He averaged 11.3/4.6 at Texas A&M. Now he is an all-star. Sterling Brown averaged 8.2/4.8 at SMU. Now he's starting for the NBA's best team. Eric Bledsoe averaged 11.3/3.1 at Kentucky. Brook Lopez had averages that mirror Sam's output last year at Stanford.
1) School doesn't matter
2) Numbers don't matter
3) Skillset matters
4) Athleticism matters
If school and numbers don’t matter, then it doesn’t matter where either go because neither is being discussed as realistically playing at the next level given their current skill set and athleticism (I think they’re far more athletic than some people here think they are).
I think with the right coach, they can get better and improve “draft” status. I don’t know if that factors in their decision making. If it does, I don’t see how Madison is the place to get to the next level.
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Honestly...I'm fine with them going to the Badgers for a couple of reasons. They eat up two scholarships for players that will not see the court next year. Who knows what transpires following that? Assuming both of them play the following year, they spent two years of scholarship on only one year for Sam...and they spent 3 years of scholarship on maximum 2 years for Joey. That is a lot of scholarship capital that could go elsewhere.
Secondly, I love rivalries....This just adds more spice to the gumbo. And, let's just dream of a scenario in which MU beats them again next year in Madison (with two prime players sitting out and on the bench) and then somehow our program is beefed up again in 2020 and we beat them in Milwaukee with the full complement of Hausers....how sweet sweet sweet would that be? Hey Bucky, glad you got our leftovers...hope you enjoyed them. Now, of course, I don't see the Hausers as leftovers as I know they are very good hoops players and will fit Bucky's system well. But, the rhetoric would be fun. On the downside, if they cream us....and in the bigger picture this sets our program back into first gear, then this would really suck.
Finally, if they land them...they are probably assured that Gard stays on...and unless this gift in his lap revs up his ability to recruit top talent (which it might...big statement), I am hoping he stays there a looooong time as I just don't see him taking that program to another level. Losing Happ this year and looking at their roster next...would be a concern if I were a Badger fan.
The first portion I agree with. The rest, could not disagree more.
Getting beat out on the recruiting trail is one thing, having a star and a potential star leave your program, after spending time in it, to go to your in state rival does nothing but make you look bad. This isn't Jamal Cain leaving cause he couldn't find playing time. There is no fun rhetoric to me and the negative recruiting implications are substantial, as are the PR ones. Marquette fights to compete for press and attention with UW on the best of days, and now, on the cusp of their best potential season in 15 years, they lose 2 key players to UW who is headed for a significantly down year? Local writers are working themselves into a lather over the Little Brother narrative.
Ive placed most of the blame for this on Wojo, and hold minimal ill will towards the Hausers. But if they head to Wisconsin, I've lost all respect for them and view anything positive they say about the program as BS.
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The first portion I agree with. The rest, could not disagree more.
Getting beat out on the recruiting trail is one thing, having a star and a potential star leave your program, after spending time in it, to go to your in state rival does nothing but make you look bad. This isn't Jamal Cain leaving cause he couldn't find playing time. There is no fun rhetoric to me and the negative recruiting implications are substantial, as are the PR ones. Marquette fights to compete for press and attention with UW on the best of days, and now, on the cusp of their best potential season in 15 years, they lose 2 key players to UW who is headed for a significantly down year? Local writers are working themselves into a lather over the Little Brother narrative.
Ive placed most of the blame for this on Wojo, and hold minimal ill will towards the Hausers. But if they head to Wisconsin, I've lost all respect for them and view anything positive they say about the program as BS.
yep
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Per ESPN:
Ranking of Sit Out Transfers--
1. Sam Hauser
3. Joey Hauser
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Honestly a lineup of Reuvers, Hauser, Hauser, Davison, and Trice just doesn’t seem that good.
Seems like 30 wins and one of the best long-range shooting teams in the country.
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If they go to Wisconsin they come to FF in two years to lose to the Warriors.
I wish them well, but not against us. Would love to see us beat them.
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Seems like 30 wins and one of the best long-range shooting teams in the country.
Seems like 2 good players and a bunch of scrubs
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If they go to Wisconsin they come to FF in two years to lose to the Warriors.
I wish them well, but not against us. Would love to see us beat them.
I don’t think either will be playing for the Bucks anytime soon, let alone in 2 years.
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It would also 99.9% take them out of the running for Jalen Johnson
They weren't getting Jalen regardless.
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They weren't getting Jalen regardless.
I know but this makes it even far less likely
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If they go to Wisconsin they come to FF in two years to lose to the Warriors.
I wish them well, but not against us. Would love to see us beat them.
With or without the Hausers we were gonna go into Madison and crush the sorry ass team they’re about to field next year.
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I don’t think either will be playing for the Bucks anytime soon, let alone in 2 years.
Don’t we play Wisconsin at Marquette not this season, but the one after when the Hausers would be eligible?
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Don’t we play Wisconsin at Marquette not this season, but the one after when the Hausers would be eligible?
Correct
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Seems like 30 wins and one of the best long-range shooting teams in the country.
Could be. I’m just saying I wouldn’t be tickled pink with that situation. For next year? Absolutely. But in 18 months? Meh. However, the hausers are great players and would be a major win for UW if/when they land them.
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Seems like 30 wins and one of the best long-range shooting teams in the country.
Davison hasn't really shown much as a shooter in his two years. An occasional 3/6 from distance.
We all know Markus struggled down the stretch, but Davison was horrific. In the BigTen tourney and the NCAA game he shot a combined 4/27 (15%), with a 1/17 (6%) from three. Mr. March he ain't
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Seems like 30 wins and one of the best long-range shooting teams in the country.
Brad can grab Joey’s privates all the time now, not just in games televised across the country.
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The Hausers going to Wisconsin would be like Cassius Winston & Xavier Tillman transferring to Michigan, or Marques Bolden & Tre Jones transferring to UNC, or PJ Washington & Ashton Hagans transferring to Louisville.
It would be a disastrous look for our program. If this situation is so toxic that Wojo drove them into the arms of our biggest rival, that should be the end of it. Let Stan be caretaker for a year, poach Wardle, whatever. That would be an unforgivable sin. And cancel the series, because people like Trevor Anderson & Sam Dekker are blatantly tampering on Twitter.
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And cancel the series, because people like Trevor Anderson & Sam Dekker are blatantly tampering on Twitter.
Once they are in the ‘portal’, is tampering a thing?
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The Hausers going to Wisconsin would be like Cassius Winston & Xavier Tillman transferring to Michigan, or Marques Bolden & Tre Jones transferring to UNC, or PJ Washington & Ashton Hagans transferring to Louisville.
It would be a disastrous look for our program. If this situation is so toxic that Wojo drove them into the arms of our biggest rival, that should be the end of it. Let Stan be caretaker for a year, poach Wardle, whatever. That would be an unforgivable sin. And cancel the series, because people like Trevor Anderson & Sam Dekker are blatantly tampering on Twitter.
In the Hauser thread on Buckyville, Jeff Potrykus posted on page 10 that his source told him Sam and Joey will be going to UW. He doesn’t directly say it, but that’s what he meant.
It’s time to accept that they’ll be wearing red next year. It’s going to happen, and it’s going to be an absolute nightmare.
How the hell did we get to this point? How could Wojo have allowed this to happen?
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Once they are in the ‘portal’, is tampering a thing?
Is anything even done about tampering? It always seems that the side that claims “tampering” just ends up looking petty and butthurt.
If Wojo makes a scene about that then I think there would be great debate about the bigger embarrassment...that or running at the ref after the georgetown game like an idiot.
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The Hausers going to Wisconsin would be like Cassius Winston & Xavier Tillman transferring to Michigan, or Marques Bolden & Tre Jones transferring to UNC, or PJ Washington & Ashton Hagans transferring to Louisville.
It would be a disastrous look for our program. If this situation is so toxic that Wojo drove them into the arms of our biggest rival, that should be the end of it. Let Stan be caretaker for a year, poach Wardle, whatever. That would be an unforgivable sin. And cancel the series, because people like Trevor Anderson & Sam Dekker are blatantly tampering on Twitter.
Seriously, where did any one else think they were going? The Point connections lead to Madison or C'Ville. MU could have blocked either but that is a bad look despite the appearance of "tampering".
And yes, it is bigger F/U and Nutpunch to Wojo and MU. If it is Madison, it will be announced after Finals is my guess. Gard has been holding slots for a while.
That said, either is a great fit for the Boys in all honesty. And, that's really all that matters most. MU is taking the high road.
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That said, either is a great fit for the Boys in all honesty. And, that's really all that matters most. MU is taking the high road.
Partially thanks to Bo I thought blocking is no longer an option.
Does the high road ever lead to winning basketball? That would be nice.
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Seriously, where did any one else think they were going? The Point connections lead to Madison or C'Ville. MU could have blocked either but that is a bad look despite the appearance of "tampering".
And yes, it is bigger F/U and Nutpunch to Wojo and MU. If it is Madison, it will be announced after Finals is my guess. Gard has been holding slots for a while.
That said, either is a great fit for the Boys in all honesty. And, that's really all that matters most. MU is taking the high road.
You can't block transfers anymore
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You can't block transfers anymore
Within conferences even?
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Seriously, where did any one else think they were going? The Point connections lead to Madison or C'Ville. MU could have blocked either but that is a bad look despite the appearance of "tampering".
And yes, it is bigger F/U and Nutpunch to Wojo and MU. If it is Madison, it will be announced after Finals is my guess. Gard has been holding slots for a while.
That said, either is a great fit for the Boys in all honesty. And, that's really all that matters most. MU is taking the high road.
once again, can’t block anymore.
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Within conferences even?
I think conference rules dictate that
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I think conference rules dictate that
So, you can block, but just not out of conference? 🤷♂️
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Wisconsin and Marquette are in different conferences.
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Wisconsin and Marquette are in different conferences.
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Thanks. I get that. But the statement was made that you cannot block any more and I asked is that true still within conferences? The answer was yes, you can still block within conferences.
Sorry for the diversion.
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So, you can block, but just not out of conference? 🤷♂️
I believe Big East rules prohibit intraconference transfers. Several conferences do not.
Blocking transfers became nothing but a series lawsuits, so blocking has been blocked.
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I believe Big East rules prohibit intraconference transfers. Several conferences do not.
Blocking transfers became nothing but a series lawsuits, so blocking has been blocked.
Makes sense. Thanks
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I hope the Hausers go to UW. And I also can’t wait for Markus to drop 40 on them next year while they sit in street clothes. I also can’t wait to see them come to Fiserv in 2020. Get your popcorn...
Yes Wojo has not met expectations across the board, but the university will stand behind a coach 100% of the time. I can’t wait to roll with players who want to be here. We will still be a good team. If we land a solid grad transfer we will be in really good shape.
Bought my tickets to Orlando and can’t wait to go to Madison in December next year. That fish bowl at Wandos after the game is going to taste great after a victory.
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Could the Hauser brothers land at Wisconsin? Here is a look at how they fit with UW, Virginia and Michigan State
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2019/04/16/hauser-brothers-wisconsin-badgers-appear-good-fit/3483302002/
Welp
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If the Hausers go to Wisconsin, big whoop. Marquette would play Sam once, and Joey 2-3 times at most, in a 90+ games stretch.
Vander Blue decommitted from Wisconsin to come to Marquette. Not much difference.
The only thing I will miss is hearing Badger fans lament about how badly Bo screwed up the Hauser recruitments. But I will manage to go on.
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If the Hausers go to Wisconsin, big whoop. Marquette would play Sam once, and Joey 2-3 times at most, in a 90+ games stretch.
Vander Blue decommitted from Wisconsin to come to Marquette. Not much difference.
The only thing I will miss is hearing Badger fans lament about how badly Bo screwed up the Hauser recruitments. But I will manage to go on.
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I like your optimism, but there is a big difference. Vander never scored over 1,200 points in a red jersey then transferred to play his last year at his biggest rival, the team he was trying to beat for 3 years.
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Excellent Research Report With Commentary from Hausers High School Coach that outlines reasons for transfer:
https://www.stevenspointjournal.com/story/sports/2019/04/16/marquette-shocker-hausers-seek-better-fit-former-spash-coach-says/3481168002/
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If the Hausers go to Wisconsin, big whoop. Marquette would play Sam once, and Joey 2-3 times at most, in a 90+ games stretch.
Vander Blue decommitted from Wisconsin to come to Marquette. Not much difference.
The only thing I will miss is hearing Badger fans lament about how badly Bo screwed up the Hauser recruitments. But I will manage to go on.
I dont understand how people cant grasp program perception and how it goes beyond simple head to head matchups once a year.
For the first time in a decade, Marquette was the clear stronger program and set to be that was for the near and mid term future. Losing the Hausers to UW reverses that aggressively. Not only does it plus up a weak roster in Madison, it changes the perception of both programs and shows such a lack of confidence in a coach that they would run a step down to a program that once told one, thanks but no thanks
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I dont understand how people cant grasp program perception and how it goes beyond simple head to head matchups once a year.
For the first time in a decade, Marquette was the clear stronger program and set to be that was for the near and mid term future. Losing the Hausers to UW reverses that aggressively. Not only does it plus up a weak roster in Madison, it changes the perception of both programs and shows such a lack of confidence in a coach that they would run a step down to a program that once told one, thanks but no thanks
Agreed.
But on the plus side, it totally gives the more magnanimous among us license to rip the Hausers because they officially will be the enemy. If they go to play for F%cky, I will hate them as much as I hate Nutgrabber McDouchenozzle.
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Is anything even done about tampering? It always seems that the side that claims “tampering” just ends up looking petty and butthurt.
If Wojo makes a scene about that then I think there would be great debate about the bigger embarrassment...that or running at the ref after the georgetown game like an idiot.
It’s a tough thing to prove. You really need written documentation to prove it. There have been recruiting bans for schools proven to have engaged in it.
Here’s the rub though: it’s not tampering to talk to the HS or AAU coach, just the kid or parents.
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I dont understand how people cant grasp program perception and how it goes beyond simple head to head matchups once a year.
For the first time in a decade, Marquette was the clear stronger program and set to be that was for the near and mid term future. Losing the Hausers to UW reverses that aggressively. Not only does it plus up a weak roster in Madison, it changes the perception of both programs and shows such a lack of confidence in a coach that they would run a step down to a program that once told one, thanks but no thanks
I care about Marquette basketball. Period. I don't care about Marquette's perception vs Wisconsin's perception. I think that's a fish bowl mentality. There's a whole country out there not comparing Marquette to Wisconsin.
I mean, I never give a thought to the perception of St. John's vs Syracuse, Florida vs Florida State, Texas vs TAMU vs Texas Tech, Nebraska vs Creighton, etc., etc.
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I care about Marquette basketball. Period. I don't care about Marquette's perception vs Wisconsin's perception. I think that's a fish bowl mentality. There's a whole country out there not comparing Marquette to Wisconsin.
I mean, I never give a thought to the perception of St. John's vs Syracuse, Florida vs Florida State, Texas vs TAMU vs Texas Tech, Nebraska vs Creighton, etc., etc.
Thats fine and dandy for you. But thats not true for 2 other important groups: recruits and the media. We joke about "this will help recruiting" but its based in truth. And this is the kind of stuff that can be used to endlessly negative recruit. Not even in a kid deciding against Wisconsin vs Marquette. "Do you really wanna go play where you're not even the top team in the state? Come to Illinois." "The Big East cant even prevent their top players from leaving for B10 programs."
And then the media can just feed into all of that. They won't care to do all the research, hear the reasons, etc.. They see 2 of the top 3/4 players on a team leaving for the arch rival, a seemingly lesser team, and they already have a narrative, a bias, a perception of Marquette, and Marquette vs Wisconsin.
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Thats fine and dandy for you. But thats not true for 2 other important groups: recruits and the media. We joke about "this will help recruiting" but its based in truth. And this is the kind of stuff that can be used to endlessly negative recruit. Not even in a kid deciding against Wisconsin vs Marquette. "Do you really wanna go play where you're not even the top team in the state? Come to Illinois." "The Big East cant even prevent their top players from leaving for B10 programs."
And then the media can just feed into all of that. They won't care to do all the research, hear the reasons, etc.. They see 2 of the top 3/4 players on a team leaving for the arch rival, a seemingly lesser team, and they already have a narrative, a bias, a perception of Marquette, and Marquette vs Wisconsin.
I'm gonna guess most recruits don't see beyond "Ooo more playing time for me."
I'm also gonna guess that most media will have forgotten about this by Friday. They'll remember again for a day when the Hausers commit somewhere. Then they'll forget forever....unless Marquette ends up playing against them, which I think is unlikely.
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Thats fine and dandy for you. But thats not true for 2 other important groups: recruits and the media. We joke about "this will help recruiting" but its based in truth. And this is the kind of stuff that can be used to endlessly negative recruit. Not even in a kid deciding against Wisconsin vs Marquette. "Do you really wanna go play where you're not even the top team in the state? Come to Illinois." "The Big East cant even prevent their top players from leaving for B10 programs."
Out-of-state kids won't care about this. The best in-state kids have always gone out-of-state so it doesn't matter there either. The great effects of negative recruiting are a myth.
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I dont understand how people cant grasp program perception and how it goes beyond simple head to head matchups once a year.
For the first time in a decade, Marquette was the clear stronger program and set to be that was for the near and mid term future. Losing the Hausers to UW reverses that aggressively. Not only does it plus up a weak roster in Madison, it changes the perception of both programs and shows such a lack of confidence in a coach that they would run a step down to a program that once told one, thanks but no thanks
Even if Sam and Joey don't go to UW, the irony in their transfer is quite thick in regards to the UW/MU rivalry.
As mentioned here often, the mistake of not recruiting Sam summed up the odd end of the Bo Ryan era and the clumsy hand-off to Gard. When Joey came to MU, the glare of that mistake only intensified. It had a real chance to be one of UW basketball's major "what if" moments.
But after yesterday, it is now Wojo's career that may be defined negatively by the Hausers. What a reversal. And, one that no one saw coming just two months ago.
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In the Hauser thread on Buckyville, Jeff Potrykus posted on page 10 that his source told him Sam and Joey will be going to UW. He doesn’t directly say it, but that’s what he meant.
It’s time to accept that they’ll be wearing red next year. It’s going to happen, and it’s going to be an absolute nightmare.
How the hell did we get to this point? How could Wojo have allowed this to happen?
They could end up there but Potrykus was saying similar things about Mike Daum grad transferring there as well.
I agree with everything else you say about being a nightmare if it happens
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In Potrykus’ mind, everyone should go to WI.
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Excellent Research Report With Commentary from Hausers High School Coach that outlines reasons for transfer:
https://www.stevenspointjournal.com/story/sports/2019/04/16/marquette-shocker-hausers-seek-better-fit-former-spash-coach-says/3481168002/
That was supposed to be in teal, right? There was nothing more here than has been speculated about here.
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Is it true that Sam’s girlfriend plays UW volleyball? Friend of mine told me that.
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Is it true that Sam’s girlfriend plays UW volleyball? Friend of mine told me that.
It is.
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Can the Hausers wait until after finals to declare their destination? It might make sense, particularly if they're picking Bucky, to avoid feeding the fire of their current classmates on campus.
(I am assuming they are still enrolled in classes at this point.)
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Can the Hausers wait until after finals to declare their destination? It might make sense, particularly if they're picking Bucky, to avoid feeding the fire of their current classmates on campus.
(I am assuming they are still enrolled in classes at this point.)
honest question: how many of their classmates would actually care enough to get angry if they went to Madison?
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Can we add an option of "Who Gives a Crap?"
This. They don't want to play for Marquette so who cares where they go or how they do?
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honest question: how many of their classmates would actually care enough to get angry if they went to Madison?
All it takes is one cuckoo bird to be nasty - doesn't have to be the entire student body.
Anyone know if there is a set timetable to sign as a transfer?
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The easiest way to determine which posters on Scoop live outside Wisconsin is to see who doesn't care if the Hausers end up at Wisconsin.
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The easiest way to determine which posters on Scoop live outside Wisconsin is to see who doesn't care if the Hausers end up at Wisconsin.
I have never lived in Wisconsin other than the 4 years I was at MU. I would HATE to see the Hausers end up at UW. I don't know if I'm making or refuting your point but there it is.
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Dear Tony,
Me and my little brother Joey really like your team. We think you are a real good coach. Did you know we are from Wisconsin too? Would you like to coach me and my little brother? Because that would be neat.
Yours truly,
Sam
and Joey
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I have never lived in Wisconsin other than the 4 years I was at MU. I would HATE to see the Hausers end up at UW. I don't know if I'm making or refuting your point but there it is.
Agreed.
I would only want the Hausers to end up at Wisconsin if it could be guaranteed that they wouldn't make the NCAAs while they were there and that our boyz would beat them every time.
Obviously, there could be no such guarantee. Ipso fatso ... go to Virginia, kiddies.
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Dear Sam (and Joey),
C'mon down. I wanted you then and I want you now. I win ACC and National championships with guys like you. Team players with skills like yours are what we're all about at UVA.
Your (hopefully) next coach,
Tony Bennett
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Dear Sam (and Joey),
C'mon down. I wanted you then and I want you now. I win ACC and National championships with guys like you. Team players with skills like yours are what we're all about at UVA.
Your (hopefully) next coach,
Tony Bennett
A letter.
I see what you did there, Lenny.
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The easiest way to determine which posters on Scoop live outside Wisconsin is to see who doesn't care if the Hausers end up at Wisconsin.
Not necessarily. I have lived in Wisconsin my entire life and could care less where they go. They are no longer Warriors - hence they no longer matter.
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No DGAF option?
F the Hausers they are dead to me
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Not necessarily. I have lived in Wisconsin my entire life and could care less where they go. They are no longer Warriors - hence they no longer matter.
Could NOT care less, ie. U could not possibly care any less about where they go
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Dear Sam (and Joey),
C'mon down. I wanted you then and I want you now. I win ACC and National championships with guys like you. Team players with skills like yours are what we're all about at UVA.
Your (hopefully) next coach,
Tony Bennett
"I've been thinking about you alot. A whole lot."
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On their feet.........somewhere.
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On their feet.........somewhere.
If it's Bucky, they'll be landing on their backs....a lot
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i honestly hope they got to madison now so markus can score 40 while they sit on the bench
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Dear Tony,
Me and my little brother Joey really like your team. We think you are a real good coach. Did you know we are from Wisconsin too? Would you like to coach me and my little brother? Because that would be neat.
Yours truly,
Sam
and Joey
There it's settled. Any post about the Hauser's must be written in letter form.
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There it's settled. Any post about the Hauser's must be written in letter form.
Can the letter include a haiku?
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Dear Tony,
Me and my little brother Joey really like your team. We think you are a real good coach. Did you know we are from Wisconsin too? Would you like to coach me and my little brother? Because that would be neat.
Yours truly,
Sam
and Joey
Gotta include the yes/no/maybe check boxes.
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i honestly hope they got to madison now so markus can score 40 while they sit on the bench
That scenario would be Must See TV.
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If it's Bucky, they'll be landing on their backs....a lot
Floppers!
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Floppers!
That should be against the law.