NFL Thread 2019-2020

[lawdog77]

Apparently the NFL demanded that jesign a waiver not to sue the NFL in the future. Question is, did his team know of this beforehand?

[#UnleashSean]

Shocking that an NFL team won't sign a mediocre scramble 32 year old quarterback who hasn't played in 3 years, who doesn't shut up, is a distraction to teammates and a complete media circus.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Shocking that an NFL team won't sign a mediocre scramble 32 year old quarterback who hasn't played in 3 years, who doesn't shut up, is a distraction to teammates and a complete media circus.

LOL.  Sure.  He wasn't blackballed.  He's just bad, as opposed to all the other back ups out there, and he's "uppity."

[forgetful]

Apparently the NFL demanded that jesign a waiver not to sue the NFL in the future. Question is, did his team know of this beforehand?

Apparently it was provided the day of. My guess is they said he would have to sign a liability waiver for "injury" but the language ended up being very broad, and included any lawsuits whatsoever. They balked at that language and the NFL said, our way or the highway.

I don't blame him at all for not signing and moving the workout. Seems like this was a sham set up by the NFL to make it look like they were working with him.

[MU82]

For some, it was A-OK for the NFL to run an obvious three-ring circus (and likely scam) yesterday, and for others it was A-OK for Kaepernick to run his own circus.

As for how good, bad or mediocre he is (or was), that's up for debate.

In his last season, 2016, he ranked 17th in passer rating among qualifiers, just behind Russell Wilson, Andy Dalton and Alex Smith, and just ahead of Tyrod Taylor, Philip Rivers and Carson Palmer. He was 13th in TD% and 6th in INT%. His QBR was 21st. He also ran for 468 yards, averaging 6 yards a carry.

Statistically, he was a middle-of-the-pack QB, which certainly supports the belief of those who say he's "mediocre."

Although he had slipped some  from the level he played to lead the Niners to two straight NFC title games (and a Super Bowl), IMHO he wasn't a bad QB. We've all seen "bad" QBs, and most don't throw only 4 INTs in 331 passes over 12 games.

On talent alone, he was good enough to start for some teams that do field bad QBs, and he obviously was good enough to be the No. 1 backup on pretty much any team.

With him being 3 years removed from competition, no team would sign him to start now -- even if he didn't come with a three-ring circus.

He doesn't seem the type who would accept a backup role, though I haven't seen him quoted about that either way. Meanwhile, who could blame NFL teams for wanting to avoid dealing with the circus -- as well as likely fan backlash -- for a backup-level QB?

The anthem kneeling and the activism never bothered me. But I did not like the way he made generalizations suggesting that all cops were bad, the way he wore socks depicting cops as pigs, etc. He was an imperfect spokesperson for his own cause (but then again we're all imperfect), and like the rest of us he has to deal with the consequences of his words and deeds.

It's been an interesting story, that's for sure.

[Cheeks]

LOL.  Sure.  He wasn't blackballed.  He's just bad, as opposed to all the other back ups out there, and he's "uppity."

He opted out of his contract with the 49ers, did many stupid things that alienated law enforcement and those that support law enforcement...but sure...don’t mention those things.  He is a cherub.

[forgetful]

He opted out of his contract with the 49ers, did many stupid things that alienated law enforcement and those that support law enforcement...but sure...don’t mention those things.  He is a cherub.

Kobe raped a woman, admitted "I understand why she thought it was rape". Played for years.

Roethlisberger has raped/assaulted a couple people...still playing.

But wear some controversial socks and kneel and you are blacklisted. Says a lot.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Kobe raped a woman, admitted "I understand why she thought it was rape". Played for years.

Roethlisberger has raped/assaulted a couple people...still playing.

But where some controversial socks and kneel and you are blacklisted. Says a lot.

Yeah “alienated law enforcement.” 

[Billy Hoyle]

He opted out of his contract with the 49ers, did many stupid things that alienated law enforcement and those that support law enforcement...but sure...don’t mention those things.  He is a cherub.

He should have killed a woman while driving drunk like Leonard Little and Donte Stalllworth. Beat up his GF and threw her on a pile of guns like Greg Hardy. Pig socks are so much worse than those minor offenses

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

SNF player introductions....my son and I have a theory that there is no better combination of picture, voice and school than "Bryan Bulaga....Iowa"

[DegenerateDish]

SNF player introductions....my son and I have a theory that there is no better combination of picture, voice and school than "Bryan Bulaga....Iowa"

I love anyone from The U, if for no other reason it confuses my son everytime as to what that means.

[Lennys Tap]

For some, it was A-OK for the NFL to run an obvious three-ring circus (and likely scam) yesterday, and for others it was A-OK for Kaepernick to run his own circus.

As for how good, bad or mediocre he is (or was), that's up for debate.

In his last season, 2016, he ranked 17th in passer rating among qualifiers, just behind Russell Wilson, Andy Dalton and Alex Smith, and just ahead of Tyrod Taylor, Philip Rivers and Carson Palmer. He was 13th in TD% and 6th in INT%. His QBR was 21st. He also ran for 468 yards, averaging 6 yards a carry.

Statistically, he was a middle-of-the-pack QB, which certainly supports the belief of those who say he's "mediocre."

Although he had slipped some  from the level he played to lead the Niners to two straight NFC title games (and a Super Bowl), IMHO he wasn't a bad QB. We've all seen "bad" QBs, and most don't throw only 4 INTs in 331 passes over 12 games.

On talent alone, he was good enough to start for some teams that do field bad QBs, and he obviously was good enough to be the No. 1 backup on pretty much any team.

With him being 3 years removed from competition, no team would sign him to start now -- even if he didn't come with a three-ring circus.

He doesn't seem the type who would accept a backup role, though I haven't seen him quoted about that either way. Meanwhile, who could blame NFL teams for wanting to avoid dealing with the circus -- as well as likely fan backlash -- for a backup-level QB?

The anthem kneeling and the activism never bothered me. But I did not like the way he made generalizations suggesting that all cops were bad, the way he wore socks depicting cops as pigs, etc. He was an imperfect spokesperson for his own cause (but then again we're all imperfect), and like the rest of us he has to deal with the consequences of his words and deeds.

It's been an interesting story, that's for sure.

Well said Mike.

[DegenerateDish]

I’m fine if Daniel plays, but there could not be an odder time to put him in. So typical of Nagy to make a weird decision like that.

[jesmu84]

I’m fine if Daniel plays, but there could not be an odder time to put him in. So typical of Nagy to make a weird decision like that.

Right? In a game where Mitch wasn't the reason for them losing

[DegenerateDish]

It also looked like to me Mitch was crying or fighting back tears when Nagy was talking to him.

[jesmu84]

It also looked like to me Mitch was crying or fighting back tears when Nagy was talking to him.

I'm guessing it was the severe pain from the "hip injury"

[DegenerateDish]

I'm guessing it was the severe pain from the "hip injury"

That made me legit LOL.

[forgetful]

I’m fine if Daniel plays, but there could not be an odder time to put him in. So typical of Nagy to make a weird decision like that.

Not sure what the purpose of playing Daniel is. He is not a long term solution. He isn't really even a solution.

[DegenerateDish]

My gut reaction without overthinking this take...Nagy decided to pull Mitch late in a national tv game, with the outcome semi-decided, to throw Mitch under the bus to save his own butt.

I can not come up with any other good reason for it at that particular time. There's no chance Mitch was hurt, no eff'n way.

[Jockey]

My gut reaction without overthinking this take...Nagy decided to pull Mitch late in a national tv game, with the outcome semi-decided, to throw Mitch under the bus to save his own butt.

I can not come up with any other good reason for it at that particular time. There's no chance Mitch was hurt, no eff'n way.

If so, I'd like to be a fly on the wall for the next Nagy / Pace discussion.

[forgetful]

My gut reaction without overthinking this take...Nagy decided to pull Mitch late in a national tv game, with the outcome semi-decided, to throw Mitch under the bus to save his own butt.

I can not come up with any other good reason for it at that particular time. There's no chance Mitch was hurt, no eff'n way.

Intriguing. Don't see that working either.

[DegenerateDish]

Conspiracy Dish has lots of questions after that Nagy post game presser.

Every game, I mean literally every game, Nagy opens his post game presser with injury news. Always does this. Every. Game. He did not do that tonight. Very, very odd.

Going back and watching the game, the only play Mitch could have got slightly hurt on was the Donald sack midway through the 4th quarter, but there's no way it would have been more than a bruise. If a QB got hurt earlier in the game, there's zero, zilch, nada chance the QB would be out there and running option plays in the 4th quarter (Bears claim Mitch got hurt in the second quarter).

I very much believe Nagy went rogue, pulled Mitch, Bears scrambled behind the scenes to get their stories straight for postgame.

Mitch's body language in his post game presser is dead man walking.

This is all a circus and a sideshow from the real problem...the team and organization suck.

[jsglow]

This just in.....

'The Bears Still Suck!'

[jesmu84]

If Nagy is really moving on from mitch, fine. But you need to move more pieces around. Trade Mack and maybe Hicks for picks. Need more draft availability.

Build around jackson/Smith on defense.

Not sure who to build around on offense?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Bears shouldn’t move on from Mitch. He won’t get anything on the trade market anyway.

They should move on from Nagy.