Oso planning to go pro
At the risk of over simplification, I need to see more complete players. We're fun to watch, exciting even, but we have too many guys who do one thing well (or elite even) but have glaring holes elsewhere in their game. Sam was probably the only exception on last year's team, and even he is short on quickness/athleticism. Those 70s teams included guys like Meminger, Chones, Lackey, Bo, McNeil, Luke, Tatum, Butch, etc., etc., etc. Crean had guys like Wade and Wes, Buzz guys like JFB and Jae. Wojo has a ways to go to get us back to where we were under TC. After that, Buzz. Then the 70s. Not impossible, but there's a long way to go. Getting this grad transfer PG would be a nice step, but there would still be miles to travel IMO.
Well glad I didn’t take that to the bank....Hopefully soon we will be closer to Duke tho
Best players going into next season: Hauser, Howard, Morrow, HauserBest players from Wojo’s first season: Wilson, Carlino, Fischer, AndersonDefinitely closer to Duke than to 2014-2015 MU.
Don't you think it's a little bullish to be saying J Hauser will unequivocally be the 4th best player when he's been injured for a year and hasn't played a minute of College ball yet?
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold. He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.
Did you feel the same way about Henry before he played a college game coming off a broken hand?IMO Joey won't be as good as Henry, and won't put up the scoring numbers that he did Freshman year (although I hope he can shoot the 3 ball better), but both kids are really good talents and I expect Joey to be a solid contributor next year.
“In two years we will be much closer to Duke then we were last year or for the rest of this year”That 2 year window is currently up from when you made that comment.Next years roster(which should be very solid) is not a part of this.
Player development is going to be essential for our program to have more complete players. Right now we have 4 guys on the roster who with continued development could possibly be complete players with athleticism and skills. 3 of them Jamal, Greg and Theo have to make the classic big transition from freshman to sophomore . The good news was they were very solid defensively as freshman and all showed signs of meaningful Offensive upside. The fourth player , Ed Morrow, has to make the standard transfer sitting out a year transition. The good news there was he made solid progress from his freshman year to sophomore year at the Big Ten Level and Ed should now, after a year working out and being with team, be in a position to take his game up another notch. 2019 recruiting class has to be full of players with similar attributes as the 4 listed above.
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.
I didn't expect that you'd be the guy to throw Eke under the bus.
People seem to be really bad at interpreting math on this site. The first two years under Wojo we were sub-90 teams on kenpom. The last two we were 40+ spots better than either of the first two. It may not be elite, but it's a hell of a lot closer to Duke than when we weren't even making the NIT.
So what you’re saying is you made up your story? Got it. Thanks for confirming.I’d say the results confirmed we were closer to Duke than the 13-19 first year record Wojo had due to an entirely bare cupboard Bazz left. So again, thanks for providing a quote that has nothing to do with what you claim I said. 2 years after that quote, which was coming off of a 13-19 season, we were an NCAA Tournament team losing to the same opponent Duke lost to a whopping one round earlier than Duke lost to them. So, that checks out. Appreciate it!
Looks pretty spot on to me. Marquette in 2015 Kenpom was 93, in 2017 we were 32 and Duke was 14.
Right. Which is why I said this:And this was stated:Should’ve taken it to the bank. Would’ve made some money.
You seem to be bad at math.In either form.1. It’s 3 years right now.2. Even if it wasn’t 3 years. Being in the NIT at 19-13 is much closer to a team missing the NIT at 20-13 then it is being a fu cking top 2 seed in the NCAA tourney.The fact you would even try to argue otherwise has to be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read, literally.That said, we are moving in a good direction. We are not even remotely close to being a perennial top 2 seed tho.Good lord.
Except we made the tournament using the "empty cupboard" remnants from Buzz...I do applaud your efforts to stand behind your clearly ill-conceived projection suggesting we'd be approaching the Al years once Wojo had all his own guys (which he did this year).Now, I will say we were fun to watch. So. There's that.
Yea, I think it's pretty obvious the bold initial post about being close to Duke at this point clearly meant, we'll be within 50 spots of Duke on KenPom. Wish I would've taken that to the bank three years ago!
It's like people want Marquette to be bad so they can end up saying "I told you so."