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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: wadesworld on February 20, 2019, 10:04:57 PM
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Thick Theo
Markus
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1. Give it to the big fella!
2. Markus. To many TOs but 2 four point plays and the usual unbelievable shooting.
3. Jamal. Give him some run. The kid’s gonna be good!
Go Warriors! First place in the Big East!! Let’s beat the Friars!
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Markus
Theo got himself out of position too much defensively. Was better in the second half.
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Theo
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Double double
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Theo, fer sure.
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Jamal. He changed the curviture.
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Theo.
Markus was awful as far as turnovers
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Jamal
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Theo easy
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Theo
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Theo
Even when he is over playing the block, it intimidates and keeps the opponent away later.
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Jamal
Agreed. Stabilized what could have been a clusterfoose.
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Theo
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Maybe the best game of Theo's career so far.
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The one and only Mr. THEO.
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Theo
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Theo
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Theo John
Jamal was unsung hero of the game...way different than SOTG.
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Theo gets this one. Howard still special excluding the TO's.
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Theo.
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Theo or Markus
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Theeeeeooooo
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Mr. Theo John. He was a huge difference in the game. Pure rim protector and picks up 15 pts as well.
Markus is runner up. Loved Jamal with a second straight solid performance off the bench.
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Theo. Solid all night and altered as many shots as he blocked. Big man, big game.
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That bullet chest pass to savage for a three was a beaut..Theo
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Theo
Markus
Jamal
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Another vote for big Theo. He was impressive at both ends.
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Joey
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Theo.
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Markus got his, but I was unimpressed with some of his decision making. Mr. Double Double it is.
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Double double. 3 blocks. Even an assist. But zero turnovers. Theo.
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Theo for sure
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Theo or Markus. In a game decided by defense I'd probably give the nod to the big fella.
Shoutout to Cain for stepping up again when called upon.
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Theo John. 15 points, 11 rebounds, 3 blocks. Stud. His defense helped keep MU in the game when the offense wasn't clicking. I just can't give it to Markus with 7 turnovers (despite 28 points, stellar shooting, 6 rebounds and good all-around effort).
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Markus
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Markus definitely deserves credit for playing all 40 minutes. He carries the team offensively most nights and is easily our most indispensable player. Hard for Wojo to take him off the court. A very good overall game, I just think Theo's was better.
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Iwill say Markus although his ball handling can be so atrocious.
Theo deserving too but his defensive rebounding in tge first half was equally atrocious. Im guessing he had 9 of his 11 boards in the second half. We r up a dozen at half if we rebound, not just blaming Theo on that
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Iwill say Markus although his ball handling can be so atrocious.
Theo deserving too but his defensive rebounding in tge first half was equally atrocious. Im guessing he had 9 of his 11 boards in the second half. We r up a dozen at half if we rebound, not just blaming Theo on that
I'm not sure what the second chance points were, but if you think that we hold Butler to 17 points in a half (which is what it would have taken to have a 12 point lead when you only score 29) you have far more faith in our defense than I do. Even with our improvements, we're not Virginia.
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I'm not sure what the second chance points were, but if you think that we hold Butler to 17 points in a half (which is what it would have taken to have a 12 point lead when you only score 29) you have far more faith in our defense than I do. Even with our improvements, we're not Virginia.
Not saying we are virginia but i guarantee a dozen first half points were second chance points, mostly off mu bobbles. Second half rebounding was much better. The worst rebounding team in the BE was +6 on us at half.
We aint Uva but butler is horrible.
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How good is Markus? He scores 28, is our second-leading rebounder and makes some nice defensive plays ... and it's a shoulder shrug on Scoop. Amazing.
Normal, I would default to him, but Theo had several stretches during which he was our best player. Butler had all kinds of trouble taking it inside, and Theo was huge on the boards in the second half.
I think I give a slight edge to Theo. Obviously, I'd be A-OK with Markus, too ... even though I don't really love rewarding a PG with a 3/7 assist/turnover ratio. (And let's face it: There is no bigger reward than Scoop SOTG!)
Jamal, Sacar and second-half Sam get honorable mention.
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Not saying we are virginia but i guarantee a dozen first half points were second chance points, mostly off mu bobbles. Second half rebounding was much better. The worst rebounding team in the BE was +6 on us at half.
We aint Uva but butler is horrible.
I don't have synergy (if that would even have this info), but I highly doubt that, considering we only gave up 11 Oboards the entire game, and BU shot 41 percent.
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I don't have synergy (if that would even have this info), but I highly doubt that, considering we only gave up 11 Oboards the entire game, and BU shot 41 percent.
U maybe correct but i only tecall 2-3 off boards by butler in second half, that n our offense created tge difference in going from -8 to plus 10
Butler outrebounded us 20-14 in first
We out rebounded them in 2nd 21-11
Im guessing no more than 2 were offensive in second. Giving them 9 in first?
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U maybe correct but i only tecall 2-3 off boards by butler in second half, that n our offense created tge difference in going from -8 to plus 10
Looked at ESPN play-by play (which does have some inaccuracies from time to time), and it seems to support my claim.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/playbyplay?gameId=401083214
BU had three OBoard in a row at 15:12, 14:55, and 14:51. Those extra possession resulted in a couple of MU fouls but ultimately resulted with a Markus Howard steal. 0 Points.
BU next Oboard didn't come until 11:39, and was followed with a missed layup and Sam Hauser defensive board at 11:33. 0 Points
BU didn't get their first second chance basket until 3:23, following an Oboard at 3:32.
BU did not get another Oboard the rest of the half. Now as stated above ESPN play-by-play has been known to get things wrong from time to time, but I doubt that they would have missed another 10 second chance points by BU in a half. Our rebounding wasn't great in the first half, but we did hold BU to only 30 points. What hurt us, was our own missed shots on the offensive end.
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OK, I don't care what the rules are, but my nod for Bulldog SOTG has to go to Sean McDermott.
Averages 9.8ppg and 3.8rpg, and ended up with 27pts, 8reb on 8-13 shooting in only 24min.
Have yourself a game, son.
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Matt Heldt.
He listed NMD as a Holiday. That’s an mvp performance right there.
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How good is Markus? He scores 28, is our second-leading rebounder and makes some nice defensive plays ... and it's a shoulder shrug on Scoop. Amazing.
Normal, I would default to him, but Theo had several stretches during which he was our best player. Butler had all kinds of trouble taking it inside, and Theo was huge on the boards in the second half.
I think I give a slight edge to Theo. Obviously, I'd be A-OK with Markus, too ... even though I don't really love rewarding a PG with a 3/7 assist/turnover ratio. (And let's face it: There is no bigger reward than Scoop SOTG!)
Jamal, Sacar and second-half Sam get honorable mention.
This. There have been multiple we are spoiled by Markus threads but this guy has a “bad game” and isn’t only the best player on the team but is all American worthy.
Honestly if we all stepped away and looked at the stats and game from an outside look Markus wins it every time. I’ve got theo tho.
Think about that
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Theo the great (rim protector).
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Theo
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This. There have been multiple we are spoiled by Markus threads but this guy has a “bad game” and isn’t only the best player on the team but is all American worthy.
Honestly if we all stepped away and looked at the stats and game from an outside look Markus wins it every time. I’ve got theo tho.
Think about that
Ur absolutely correct. With that said i have voted Makus prolly 90% this yr n again last nite. What assuredly doesnt help Markus is the last 3-4 minutes of the game where he was crap show with the ball. I think he loses votes, prolly rightfulky so, when he has his 6-8 TO games
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Theo. Nice job on defense and a double-double.
Markus too loose with the ball for my tastes and some very ill advised shots when we were struggling. He was still great, of course.
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Definitely Theo.
When Theo plays smart he stays out of foul trouble and when he does that he affects the game even more because he's ON the court changing plays and affecting shots instead of sitting on the bench.
This game should be his personal lesson: Play smart, make the plays when you can but don't go for absolutely everything, don't commit foolish fouls 30 feet from the basket, be wise about what plays you aren't going to make, stay on the court, and as a result have a huge game.
Markus may have scored 28, but he had a sloppy game with poor ball handling. Always fantastic but not one of his best.
Theo for sure.
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John. Too many TOs for Howard. And I don't want to be Virginia on defense, on pace, on anything.
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I'm not sure what the second chance points were, but if you think that we hold Butler to 17 points in a half (which is what it would have taken to have a 12 point lead when you only score 29) you have far more faith in our defense than I do. Even with our improvements, we're not Virginia.
I don’t agree with him that we are up a dozen. But if we did rebound better, we probably score more than 29. So they wouldn’t have to be at 17.
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Markus
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I'm going with Theo. Great game big fella.
That said, Jamal was fantastic and helped change the course of the second half. I had an opportunity to tell him that personally after the game and he was genuinely appreciative and excited.
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Iwill say Markus although his ball handling can be so atrocious.
Theo deserving too but his defensive rebounding in tge first half was equally atrocious. Im guessing he had 9 of his 11 boards in the second half. We r up a dozen at half if we rebound, not just blaming Theo on that
You are almost dead-on, Theo only managed 3 rebounds in the first half, 2 on the defensive end. Big adjustment at halftime.
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I'm going with Theo. Great game big fella.
That said, Jamal was fantastic and helped change the course of the second half. I had an opportunity to tell him that personally after the game and he was genuinely appreciative and excited.
Way to represent Scoop, glow!
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I don’t agree with him that we are up a dozen. But if we did rebound better, we probably score more than 29. So they wouldn’t have to be at 17.
Fair point, with the extra 3-4 possessions we are probably in the mid 30s, but the fact that MSK hasn't responded when I broke down the play-by-play suggests that this isn't a hill that he wants to die on, and that's fine. We all can, and should move on.
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Theo for sure. He dominated underneath.
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Theo in this game is SOTG.
Markus will be the highest scorer of all time at MU if he plays 4 years. To be POY he needs to make better decisions and handle the ball better in a crowd. If he improves on that over the summer the sky is the limit next year.
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1. Theo. Double - Double & numerous blocks / defensive rim help.
1a. Markus - 7 TOs bring him to slightly sub status to TJ.
Honorable Mention - Cain, who played his a** off.
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Theo John....That Monster
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1. Theo, perhaps the best all around game of his career. He kept them in it.
2. Jamal, big time players make big time plays
3. Sam, because that the first time I remember him dunking
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1. Theo, perhaps the best all around game of his career. He kept them in it.
2. Jamal, big time players make big time plays
3. Sam, because that the first time I remember him dunking
WIAA State title game. May have even been an inbound ally oop.
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1. Theo, perhaps the best all around game of his career. He kept them in it.
2. Jamal, big time players make big time plays
3. Sam, because that the first time I remember him dunking
Markus doesn't even crack your top 3? Tough crowd
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Howard may be the all-time scoring leader by the end of this season. Last time figured it out figuring 3 in BET and 3 in NC2A's was on pace to be about 50 ahead of McNeal at end of season.
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Late Vote:
Tie: Theo and Markus
Was going to say Theo only but I realize I'm taking Markus for granted...expecting him to be at a certain level and not giving him creds for being there.
So Theo was good with more UPS and some DOWNS...but so was Markus.
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Markus doesn't even crack your top 3? Tough crowd
I am taking him for granted. I just want some of the other guys to get the spotlight too.
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I'm going with Theo. Great game big fella.
That said, Jamal was fantastic and helped change the course of the second half. I had an opportunity to tell him that personally after the game and he was genuinely appreciative and excited.
That is truly awesome
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THEO
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Fair point, with the extra 3-4 possessions we are probably in the mid 30s, but the fact that MSK hasn't responded when I broke down the play-by-play suggests that this isn't a hill that he wants to die on, and that's fine. We all can, and should move on.
I went back n checked. Butler 6 of 11 off boards were in 1st. Seemed like more. I believe 6 or 7 points so not completely accurate. Theo 8 of 11 boards in second half and a number of Butlers off boards were at the end when we inexplicable chose to take the last 3 minutes off
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I went back n checked. Butler 6 of 11 off boards were in 1st. Seemed like more. I believe 6 or 7 points so not completely accurate. Theo 8 of 11 boards in second half and a number of Butlers off boards were at the end when we inexplicable chose to take the last 3 minutes off
Nice to see you admit that you were wrong, it's a good quality to have, that not everyone does. I absolutely agree that your overall point about our rebounding was better in the second half, and I think a lot of that is because we gave BU less opportunities for Dboards. I believe that we were 2-10 from 3 at half, so we were 7-11 in the second half. Shoot better, gives your opponent less opportunities for boards, simple formula. We also had without a doubt the biggest rebound of the game. 2 minutes left, up 12, Sam Oboard kick to Markus for 3. Absolute dagger.
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Theo had the points and rebounds double double.
Markus nearly had the points and turnovers double double.
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If you had told me 26 games in that Sam Hauser and Theo John would have the same number of SOTGs I would have laughed in your face. His emergence has been one of my favorite things about this team and I think the difference maker between the top 25 many thought we would be and the top 10-11 team that we actually are. Have a day Mr. John
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Having gone to the game, Theo definitely was the SOTG. Markus was Honorable mention.
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If you had told me 26 games in that Sam Hauser and Theo John would have the same number of SOTGs I would have laughed in your face. His emergence has been one of my favorite things about this team and I think the difference maker between the top 25 many thought we would be and the top 10-11 team that we actually are. Have a day Mr. John
Yep yep yep.
Also ... yep.
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3. Sam, because that the first time I remember him dunking
MU put together a Sam dunk compilation tape.
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1098684037479178242?s=09
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If you had told me 26 games in that Sam Hauser and Theo John would have the same number of SOTGs I would have laughed in your face. His emergence has been one of my favorite things about this team and I think the difference maker between the top 25 many thought we would be and the top 10-11 team that we actually are. Have a day Mr. John
Maybe more surprising is how few the Hauser's have. But otherwise agree!
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MU put together a Sam dunk compilation tape.
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1098684037479178242?s=09
That's great!
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Freakin' hilarious. ;D
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Cold. But brilliant.