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Next Years Roster
« on: January 28, 2019, 09:33:44 AM »
It should be very interesting to see who comes back next year.  First off Howard, I would say 50-50, then there is Sacar and Morrow both grad transfers, hope both
comeback but they both may leave.  I can see Morrow for sure.  Then there is Eke, doubt he will ever play.  Cain another one, not sure.  If they all leave, MU instead of
a Top 10 team, will only have 7 players coming back.  Torrence will be pushed to come in right away leaving 8. So it should be a very fluid spring at MU.  I am hoping they
all comeback for a big run. I still can see MU trying for grad transfer who can play the 4 or 5, thoughts?  Hope this is more than a 1 year run, 2 or 3 more like it. 

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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2019, 09:45:35 AM »
There is uncertainty.   There always is.    I hope that Morrow, Sacar, and Cain stick around and that Eke is finally healthy.    I would be stunned if Markus left.   So, I am going to enjoy this season and wait until April 2 to start worrying about next season
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Re: Next Years Roster
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2019, 09:51:56 AM »
Chartouny and Heldt: gone

Markus, Sam H, Joey H, Theo, Anim, Bailey, Elliot: here

Cain, Morrow:?

Eke: probably gone

If I had to guess, I'd guess Cain gone, Morrow back.

A lot can change between now and then, though.


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Re: Next Years Roster
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2019, 09:53:27 AM »
April 9th would be the day to focus on next year

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Re: Next Years Roster
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2019, 09:55:06 AM »
I hope Wojo stick's around.

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Re: Next Years Roster
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2019, 09:56:24 AM »
Why would Morrow leave?  You say for sure, because of playing time?  He will not be an NBA player, no need to show his skills elsewhere.

Why would Sacar leave?  Same as Morrow?  He's not going to be a star on any other team. McEwen will get some of his minutes, but don't see it.

Cain would be candidate, but that has been discussed before, even discussed before about him redshirting. If Ike can't play, then yes, a grad bigman needed.

I say Markus stays, along with both Morrow and Sacar.  With McEwen and Elliott, its a Top Ten team and the players know it.  Enjoy the ride. 

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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2019, 09:57:27 AM »
It will be interesting.  I'd be surprised if Markus left, and I doubt Anim grad transfers.  I could see Ed trying to find a bigger role somewhere.  Cain...I hate speculating on that stuff, and I'd love to see him stay, but I also could understand his frustration.
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2019, 09:59:17 AM »
Sit back y'all and smell da roses a bit, hey?
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Re: Next Years Roster
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2019, 10:00:35 AM »
We’re 18-3, 7-1 in the BE, and 15-1 in our last 16 games and we want to talk about how 4 players might leave this offseason?

Sheesh. Some people just can’t be happy unless they’re miserable. Enjoy the season and worry about transfers when they come. Cain was already gone as a mid season transfer according to some here. Just relax a bit.
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2019, 10:04:26 AM »
Why would Sacar leave? He'll either be starter or first man off the bench getting 20 minutes on what is likely to be a pre-season top-10 team playing in a highly televised league. What more could he hope for? Get 35 minutes on some mid-major carried by Wyoming local-access television?

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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2019, 10:05:46 AM »
We’re 18-3, 7-1 in the BE, and 15-1 in our last 16 games and we want to talk about how 4 players might leave this offseason?

Sheesh. Some people just can’t be happy unless they’re miserable. Enjoy the season and worry about transfers when they come. Cain was already gone as a mid season transfer according to some here. Just relax a bit.

It's not impossible to enjoy the present and also speculate/plan for the future. Nobody here is miserable, nobody here needs to "relax". Other than you.

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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2019, 10:09:13 AM »
We’re 18-3, 7-1 in the BE, and 15-1 in our last 16 games and we want to talk about how 4 players might leave this offseason?

Sheesh. Some people just can’t be happy unless they’re miserable. Enjoy the season and worry about transfers when they come. Cain was already gone as a mid season transfer according to some here. Just relax a bit.

Lol, it’s just a conversation on a message board. I think you’re the one that needs to relax.
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Re: Next Years Roster
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2019, 10:11:19 AM »
It's not impossible to enjoy the present and also speculate/plan for the future. Nobody here is miserable, nobody here needs to "relax". Other than you.

Typically when I’m enjoying watching a team play I’m not sitting there thinking “well damn that was a nice defensive possession by Sacar there. I’m going to really enjoy him the next 12 games because after that he’s grad transferring somewhere!”

Once there’s smoke then sure, have at it. But because a guy would be eligible to transfer we’re going to start a thread speculating about it? Sad.

But in that case. Really sucks that Sam and Joey might consider transferring to UW now that UW knows Sam is worthy of a scholarship. Heard he really wanted to be there.

And because Markus is so close to them I worry he won’t want to be here and will need to move closer to home due to his heartbreak, so Arizona State will get to enjoy one year of what they thought they’d have for 4.

And maybe today Cain will go back in time and satisfy the prediction of those saying he was gone as a mid season transfer.
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Re: Next Years Roster
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2019, 10:11:53 AM »
Lol, it’s just a conversation on a message board. I think you’re the one that needs to relax.

Yeah. It’s a dumb conversation. There’s absolutely nothing to suggest any of these guys is leaving.
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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2019, 10:14:54 AM »
Why would Sacar leave? He'll either be starter or first man off the bench getting 20 minutes on what is likely to be a pre-season top-10 team playing in a highly televised league. What more could he hope for? Get 35 minutes on some mid-major carried by Wyoming local-access television?
Was being a tv star a prerequisite for Sacar?
Was having most games televised a deal breaker for him?

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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2019, 10:20:07 AM »
Not a helpful thread imo
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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2019, 10:23:19 AM »
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Re: Next Years Roster
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2019, 10:25:10 AM »
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.


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Re: Next Years Roster
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2019, 10:37:53 AM »
Typically when I’m enjoying watching a team play I’m not sitting there thinking “well damn that was a nice defensive possession by Sacar there. I’m going to really enjoy him the next 12 games because after that he’s grad transferring somewhere!”

Once there’s smoke then sure, have at it. But because a guy would be eligible to transfer we’re going to start a thread speculating about it? Sad.

But in that case. Really sucks that Sam and Joey might consider transferring to UW now that UW knows Sam is worthy of a scholarship. Heard he really wanted to be there.

And because Markus is so close to them I worry he won’t want to be here and will need to move closer to home due to his heartbreak, so Arizona State will get to enjoy one year of what they thought they’d have for 4.

And maybe today Cain will go back in time and satisfy the prediction of those saying he was gone as a mid season transfer.

First of all, we're not playing this morning. Nobody is watching Sacar making a nice defensive play while thinking "Too bad he's leaving in 12 games".

Your stuff about The Hauser and Markus is, as you well know, just stupid and beside the point.

People are relaxed, people are happy and people are discussing what ifs concerning next year. Don't want to participate? Fine. But don't get all hysterical falsely accusing others of what you're guilty of - just butt out. Relax, already.


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Re: Next Years Roster
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2019, 10:39:27 AM »
We’re 18-3, 7-1 in the BE, and 15-1 in our last 16 games and we want to talk about how 4 players might leave this offseason?

Sheesh. Some people just can’t be happy unless they’re miserable. Enjoy the season and worry about transfers when they come. Cain was already gone as a mid season transfer according to some here. Just relax a bit.

This has nothing to do with being miserable.  In 2 months, rosters change.  I extremely happy with what has happened so far this year.  I had them pegged for a lose
at Indy, which we could play them now, Kansas, like to play them again without Azubuike, and at St. Johns in that high school gym.  Great victory at Creighton, the rest
I thought MU could win and did.  This week, if McDermott is out MU can beat Butler and St. Johns, they will shoot the ball that good at the Fiserv.  Villy, now they are playing great, best game this year.  2 heavyweights.  Theo stays out of foul trouble will give them fits.  They have no one like him but Pascall and Booth are very good.
Then I remember the past, Chones, Lucas, McNeil all leaving early.  Did it change the roster, yes.  Love to have them all pick and get a 6'7" grad transfer to boot.

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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2019, 10:40:18 AM »
I know I've been thinking about what the roster will look like next year too. I don't think it's negative or a sign of "being miserable." It's just something fans do. No big deal. No need to take offense.

On the bright side, we didn't lose anyone last summer or in non-conference play, even though minutes and expectations were very uncertain. Not to be overly critical of former players (transfers), but this group of guys we have now really seem to be selfless, team-first kinds of guys. Wojo and others continually refer to most of this group as high character guys. I don't think there will be a ton of disappointment or frustration around minutes if we keep playing this well. After all, winning cures all.

On the other hand, you never know what's going through a kid's mind. Is it possible the addition of Koby and Greg into the lineup creates some issues? Sure, it's possible. But now that the whole group has a taste for winning, I would guess most would rather be on a strong team than transfer to a lesser program just for more minutes.

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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2019, 10:45:18 AM »
Was being a tv star a prerequisite for Sacar?
Was having most games televised a deal breaker for him?

?? My point was just that Sacar is going to have a nice role on a team that reasonably could be a title contender and plays in a good league - I'm not sure the grass will be greener many other places.
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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2019, 10:51:33 AM »
First of all, we're not playing this morning. Nobody is watching Sacar making a nice defensive play while thinking "Too bad he's leaving in 12 games".

Your stuff about The Hauser and Markus is, as you well know, just stupid and beside the point.

People are relaxed, people are happy and people are discussing what ifs concerning next year. Don't want to participate? Fine. But don't get all hysterical falsely accusing others of what you're guilty of - just butt out. Relax, already.

Yeah. My stuff about the Hausers and Howard is ridiculous. That’s the point. There’s literally the exact same amount of smoke surrounding their upcoming departures this offseason as there is anyone else on the team.

Keep in mind, according to what I’m guessing are some of the very same posters that are contributing to this thread, Jamal Cain has already transferred out of the program as of a month and a half ago.

Not a helpful thread imo

Yup. This is as dumb as Scoop gets.
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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2019, 10:52:04 AM »
?? My point was just that Sacar is going to have a nice role on a team that reasonably could be a title contender and plays in a good league - I'm not sure the grass will be greener many other places.

I do see McEwen getting 25 minutes a game, which will cut into Sacars minutes as a guard, but Sacar can play the small forward position and pick up some minutes there
as McEwen is big enough as well to play 3 guards.  So in my estimation Sacar plays minimum of 20 minutes a game and even more if he is on.  The one player that might
hurt his minutes is the improvement BB, if he comes on this summer then there might be a problem for Sacar.  Then again Sacar has all summer to improve.  He just has
to learn how to finish off his drives and hit the open 3 more consistently to keep his court time.  It this all happens and some improvement from the Big 3, they would be
really good next year.  Top 5 team possibly.

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Re: Next Years Roster
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2019, 10:54:29 AM »
Morrow won’t be leaving. He’s already transferred once. The odds he transfers again (even as a grad transfer) are super low.

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« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2019, 10:57:12 AM »
Morrow won’t be leaving. He’s already transferred once. The odds he transfers again (even as a grad transfer) are super low.

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« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2019, 10:59:00 AM »
Yup. This is as dumb as Scoop gets.

Hardly.

Have you actually read the posts? They're not crazy. They're not pessimistic. They're just looking forward a few months and asking what if? It's not nearly as outlandish as you seem to think it is.

Just take a deep breath. It'll all be OK.

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« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2019, 10:59:38 AM »
Hope you are right, really the most important player coming back as a sub.  Need him, he stays MU will be fine upfront.

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« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2019, 11:00:14 AM »
Yup. This is as dumb as Scoop gets.

Oh we can and have done far dumber than this.

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« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2019, 11:00:23 AM »
Hardly.

Have you actually read the posts? They're not crazy. They're not pessimistic. They're just looking forward a few months and asking what if? It's not nearly as outlandish as you seem to think it is.

Just take a deep breath. It'll all be OK.

You’re right. I forgot. Jamal is already gone, as predicted by Scoop.

Very inteligent stuff from these transfer predictions.
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« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2019, 11:03:45 AM »
Markus is not leaving.

But If he did that basically eliminates the already slim odds of Sacar leaving.

There’s really no possible way we lose all 4 guys.

Why would Cain leave if playing time
Opened up thanks to Morrow, Sacar and Markus leaving?

Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

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« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2019, 11:05:17 AM »
You’re right. I forgot. Jamal is already gone, as predicted by Scoop.

Very inteligent stuff from these transfer predictions.

You're aware that is nowhere in this thread, right?

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« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2019, 11:07:00 AM »
Morrow won’t be leaving. He’s already transferred once. The odds he transfers again (even as a grad transfer) are super low.

He'll (most likely) be eligible to transfer and play right away as a grad.  I think the odds are significantly higher that he does because of that.  Doesn't mean he will, but both Ed and Sacar should be eligible to grad transfer if they chose to. 

I don't see it as much of a possibility at all with Sacar. 
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« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2019, 11:10:46 AM »
You're aware that is nowhere in this thread, right?

You’re aware that less than 2 months ago Scoop was saying Jamal is gone at semester’s end, right?
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« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2019, 11:23:15 AM »
You’re aware that less than 2 months ago Scoop was saying Jamal is gone at semester’s end, right?

Sigh. You said this thread was as dumb as Scoop gets. And now you're complaining about a different thread with different projections. This thread is fine. If it becomes more like the one you're all hot and bothered over, then you can feel free to call it dumb. Until then, relax.

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« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2019, 11:31:30 AM »
Unless we lose one of Markus, one of the Hausers, Theo, and maaaaybe Sacar, this is a top of the BE roster regardless of whether any of this years players transfer (Cain and Ike seem like most probable).

This roster is absolutely loaded - our greenest contributors next year will be Joey and Bailey. Woof.

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« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2019, 11:38:57 AM »
Sigh. You said this thread was as dumb as Scoop gets. And now you're complaining about a different thread with different projections. This thread is fine. If it becomes more like the one you're all hot and bothered over, then you can feel free to call it dumb. Until then, relax.

It is exactly what that thread was. There’s literally no evidence suggesting anyone on the roster is gone. This is as dumb as Scoop gets, and that’s saying quite a bit.
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« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2019, 11:40:57 AM »
It is exactly what that thread was. There’s literally no evidence suggesting anyone on the roster is gone. This is as dumb as Scoop gets, and that’s saying quite a bit.

My guess is that Matt and Chartouny are gone, and Dexter shows up.  Pure speculation, have no insider info so don't ask for a source.

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« Reply #38 on: January 28, 2019, 11:44:13 AM »
My guess is that Matt and Chartouny are gone, and Dexter shows up.  Pure speculation, have no insider info so don't ask for a source.

Now that is a good thread to start.
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« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2019, 11:48:57 AM »
It should be very interesting to see who comes back next year.  First off Howard, I would say 50-50, then there is Sacar and Morrow both grad transfers, hope both
comeback but they both may leave.  I can see Morrow for sure.  Then there is Eke, doubt he will ever play.  Cain another one, not sure.  If they all leave, MU instead of
a Top 10 team, will only have 7 players coming back.  Torrence will be pushed to come in right away leaving 8. So it should be a very fluid spring at MU.  I am hoping they
all comeback for a big run. I still can see MU trying for grad transfer who can play the 4 or 5, thoughts?  Hope this is more than a 1 year run, 2 or 3 more like it.
When a team has a chance to win a National Championship , like this one would have next year, literally no one will leave unless forced to. It is a once in a life time thing.

Morrow will get more minutes as his health improves so why would he leave .  Sacar is a kid whose high school team won the tournament 4 years in a row, so his motivation is toward being on a winner. There is always someone who will be hurt etc so minutes for Cain are always going to be there. Torrence wants to play right away and will only show up if Markus is leaving. Markus will only leave if you start seeing him in the top half of the first round of mock drafts. No reason to leave and then go play in the G League playing in front of 1200 people in Erie PA.

Ike is most likely going to be medically retired, if not then he steps into Cam's role as the spirit guy

In the meantime lets bask in the glory of 18-3 7-1 and knocking on door of top 10.
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« Reply #40 on: January 28, 2019, 11:50:16 AM »
I tend not to worry about this stuff in the middle of a season, let alone the kind of great season we're having.

But just for a little perspective, folks DO think about this stuff. After going to the Providence game with family and friends, I hung around for a few more days and went to the DePaul game with my best buddy from my Marquette daze. He lives in Detroit now and follows the team, but not nearly as closely as we do here. He never heard of Scoop (gasp!) and he doesn't go on any other MU sites. In our first 5 minutes talking about the team, he said: "We should be really great next year, right?"

Personally, I'm super-excited about our 2018-19 Warriors, currently one of the top 10 teams in the entire nation, 18-3 overall, 7-1 in the Big East, headed for the Final Four. I'm not even thinking about 2019-20. But ...

Scoop is a fan site. Those who don't want to participate in this thread need not do it. I know that I'm not going to waste much time here because it's all silly speculation. But those who want to speculate for the 100th time that Sacar and Cain might transfer ... whatevs. It certainly doesn't pi$$ me off at all. I hate soccer and once went on the soccer thread to make fun of the sport; I was (correctly) told that if I don't like soccer to butt out. So I've butted out.
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« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2019, 11:56:26 AM »
I don't think there will be a ton of disappointment or frustration around minutes if we keep playing this well. After all, winning cures all.

Really, this.  If you're on a good team with a higher ceiling next year, why leave? 

Sure, some could, but unless Wojo specifically tells them they'd be better off somewhere else, I'm guessing everyone except for Heldt and Chartouny are here.

Edit:  Well - should add Ike status being 100% unknown.
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« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2019, 11:58:18 AM »
Morrow won’t be leaving. He’s already transferred once. The odds he transfers again (even as a grad transfer) are super low.


Um, hello...

Have some patience, FFS.

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« Reply #43 on: January 28, 2019, 12:01:13 PM »
I hate soccer and once went on the soccer thread to make fun of the sport; I was (correctly) told that if I don't like soccer to butt out. So I've butted out.

Seriously, tho.  Who likes soccer?  What an awful, boring game. 
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« Reply #44 on: January 28, 2019, 12:57:08 PM »
I don't say this often, but I agree with Herman/MUFINY.  This is a potential Final Four team next year.  Would someone really leave for "more exposure" on a mid-major team when they have a chance to say they played on the MU 2020 National Champion team?  Naw, they all want to don their tuxes and get their pic taken with a classic limo!
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« Reply #45 on: January 28, 2019, 01:02:32 PM »
My guess is that Matt and Chartouny are gone, and Dexter shows up.  Pure speculation, have no insider info so don't ask for a source.

I'm gonna speculate that Cam is also gone  :'(
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« Reply #46 on: January 28, 2019, 01:06:12 PM »
I don't say this often, but I agree with Herman/MUFINY.  This is a potential Final Four team next year.  Would someone really leave for "more exposure" on a mid-major team when they have a chance to say they played on the MU 2020 National Champion team?  Naw, they all want to don their tuxes and get their pic taken with a classic limo!

https://www.pennlive.com/sports/2018/12/dylan-painter-who-transferred-from-villanova-lands-at-delaware.html

Also Odartey Blankson says hello......

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« Reply #47 on: January 28, 2019, 01:54:02 PM »
https://www.pennlive.com/sports/2018/12/dylan-painter-who-transferred-from-villanova-lands-at-delaware.html

Also Odartey Blankson says hello......

Not the same.  Painter already had his national championship moment.
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« Reply #48 on: January 28, 2019, 02:19:38 PM »
It should be very interesting to see who comes back next year.  First off Howard, I would say 50-50, then there is Sacar and Morrow both grad transfers, hope both
comeback but they both may leave.  I can see Morrow for sure.  Then there is Eke, doubt he will ever play.  Cain another one, not sure.  If they all leave, MU instead of
a Top 10 team, will only have 7 players coming back.  Torrence will be pushed to come in right away leaving 8. So it should be a very fluid spring at MU.  I am hoping they
all comeback for a big run. I still can see MU trying for grad transfer who can play the 4 or 5, thoughts?  Hope this is more than a 1 year run, 2 or 3 more like it.

While we're at it: Coach K retires after winning the championship. Wojo signs on the dotted line and goes back to Duke after losing to Duke in the Championship game. Terrence de-comitts, Sam, Joey and Markus declare for the NBA, the rest of the team are released from their LOIs and free to go else where. MU hires Ners as its next coach. I think that should do it.
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« Reply #49 on: January 28, 2019, 02:43:24 PM »
While we're at it: Coach K retires after winning the championship. Wojo signs on the dotted line and goes back to Duke after losing to Duke in the Championship game. Terrence de-comitts, Sam, Joey and Markus declare for the NBA, the rest of the team are released from their LOIs and free to go else where. MU hires Ners as its next coach. I think that should do it.

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« Reply #50 on: January 28, 2019, 02:59:28 PM »
Now THAT, my friends, would be Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Alderaan combined!

As if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, then were suddenly silenced... by repetitive arguments.
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« Reply #52 on: January 28, 2019, 03:21:02 PM »
While we're at it: Coach K retires after winning the championship. Wojo signs on the dotted line and goes back to Duke after losing to Duke in the Championship game. Terrence de-comitts, Sam, Joey and Markus declare for the NBA, the rest of the team are released from their LOIs and free to go else where. MU hires Ners as its next coach. I think that should do it.

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« Reply #53 on: January 28, 2019, 03:27:31 PM »
I think Jay Bee said it best. This thread is not helpful.

As much as we pretend that they don't, players absolutely read sites like this. Not all of them, but some do. A player reading about transfer speculation when there is no smoke can feel a lot like "they don't want me here" or "they don't think I can cut it here." Now, chances are most either don't read it or brush it off and say "who cares what those old farts think?" Others may take it personally. Parents, family members, and potential recruits also read fan sites and might have some thoughts about threads like this.

The way I see it, threads like this most likely have zero impact. They definitely have zero positive impact. If they have any impact at all, it would likely be negative. That's why I personally don't participate in them but don't fault anyone who does. After all we are fans, other than cheering (or jeering) our team, pointless speculation is the thing we are best at.
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« Reply #54 on: January 28, 2019, 04:53:01 PM »
That's why I personally don't participate in them

Umm....  ^^^^^^

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« Reply #55 on: January 28, 2019, 05:04:21 PM »
I think Jay Bee said it best. This thread is not helpful.

As much as we pretend that they don't, players absolutely read sites like this. Not all of them, but some do. A player reading about transfer speculation when there is no smoke can feel a lot like "they don't want me here" or "they don't think I can cut it here." Now, chances are most either don't read it or brush it off and say "who cares what those old farts think?" Others may take it personally. Parents, family members, and potential recruits also read fan sites and might have some thoughts about threads like this.

The way I see it, threads like this most likely have zero impact. They definitely have zero positive impact. If they have any impact at all, it would likely be negative. That's why I personally don't participate in them but don't fault anyone who does. After all we are fans, other than cheering (or jeering) our team, pointless speculation is the thing we are best at.

OMG. This thread isn't "helpful"? How many are? Any? What does that even mean? I'd say this thread is neutral - plenty on here are downright negative. It's a message board about Marquette basketball. Sometimes it's a pep rally but this would be an awfully boring place if that's all it was.

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« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2019, 08:45:43 PM »
Umm....  ^^^^^^

Should have rephrased to I don't participate in speculation about transfers when there is no smoke.

OMG. This thread isn't "helpful"? How many are? Any? What does that even mean? I'd say this thread is neutral - plenty on here are downright negative. It's a message board about Marquette basketball. Sometimes it's a pep rally but this would be an awfully boring place if that's all it was.

I don't think this disagrees with anything I said so I'm not sure why the OMG.
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« Reply #58 on: January 28, 2019, 08:55:48 PM »
Oh we can and have done far dumber than this.
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« Reply #59 on: January 28, 2019, 09:00:29 PM »
This is just a discussion, what do you want to discuss. College basketball today is very fluid, not like years ago when kids made a decision and played 4 years for a college.  Grad transfer. Is part of the dynamics of this era. MU has been involved since Wojo recruited Carlino  I would not be surprised if it happens again this year. 700 kids transferred last year, part of the landscape, if you want to keep your head in the sand that’s fine, I am sure Wojo is not.

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« Reply #60 on: January 28, 2019, 09:02:16 PM »
Oh we can and have done far dumber than this.
Like the 'Fire Wojo' threads.
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« Reply #61 on: January 28, 2019, 09:53:45 PM »
Like the 'Fire Wojo' threads.

I'd take the Fire Wojo threads over the "These 4 players are probably transferring" threads.
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« Reply #62 on: January 28, 2019, 11:35:06 PM »
I reject the "players might read something on Scoop so we have to be extra careful" argument.

It's a fan site. I recommend players stay off it. If they decide to check it out, caveat emptor.

Having said that ... as a poster, I try not to trash 20-year-old kids because it's the right thing to do.

It does not appear most folks here are ripping anybody, just speculating. Not my cup of tea, but it's what a lot of fans like to do and, again, it's a fan site.
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« Reply #63 on: January 29, 2019, 11:59:41 AM »
I’m focused on this year but it’s hard not to think about next years team, they lose only Joe C. and Matt, and add Koby and Greg, if they both prove to play good D, in addition to the improved versions of our 3 stars (if Markus comes back) then if this team adds another solid grad player or something, that team could be a 1 seed and go all the way. Exciting to think about. But remember when we all were talking about how good they’d be after Vander came back for his senior year? They haven’t even won a tournament game since then. So let’s focus on the team now.

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« Reply #64 on: January 29, 2019, 12:24:24 PM »
I’m focused on this year but it’s hard not to think about next years team, they lose only Joe C. and Matt, and add Koby and Greg, if they both prove to play good D, in addition to the improved versions of our 3 stars (if Markus comes back) then if this team adds another solid grad player or something, that team could be a 1 seed and go all the way. Exciting to think about. But remember when we all were talking about how good they’d be after Vander came back for his senior year? They haven’t even won a tournament game since then. So let’s focus on the team now.

I am totally focused on this year but in 2 months the season is over, so not that far away.  Goes very fast.

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« Reply #65 on: January 29, 2019, 12:35:59 PM »
I’m focused on this year but it’s hard not to think about next years team, they lose only Joe C. and Matt, and add Koby and Greg, if they both prove to play good D, in addition to the improved versions of our 3 stars (if Markus comes back) then if this team adds another solid grad player or something, that team could be a 1 seed and go all the way. Exciting to think about. But remember when we all were talking about how good they’d be after Vander came back for his senior year? They haven’t even won a tournament game since then. So let’s focus on the team now.

I'd be shocked to see Wojo in on the grad transfer market unless Markus leaves.  Too many dudes that need the ball, especially with Kobe in the mix.

Definitely think Wojo is on the traditional transfer market.  Try to land best player available to sit out a year and help once Markus, Sam, Sacar and Ed graduate. 
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« Reply #66 on: January 29, 2019, 05:49:17 PM »
I'd be shocked to see Wojo in on the grad transfer market unless Markus leaves.  Too many dudes that need the ball, especially with Kobe in the mix.

Definitely think Wojo is on the traditional transfer market.  Try to land best player available to sit out a year and help once Markus, Sam, Sacar and Ed graduate.
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« Reply #67 on: January 29, 2019, 07:11:59 PM »
I'd be shocked to see Wojo in on the grad transfer market unless Markus leaves.  Too many dudes that need the ball, especially with Kobe in the mix.

Definitely think Wojo is on the traditional transfer market.  Try to land best player available to sit out a year and help once Markus, Sam, Sacar and Ed graduate.

I'd love to see a freshman or sophomore big man transfer. Unless we can land Dawson Garcia somewhat early I think that's the route to go.
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« Reply #68 on: January 30, 2019, 12:18:55 PM »
Still can't see Markus leaving, but I think the comparison fits. Ponds is the last pick of the first round


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