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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: mr.MUskie on December 03, 2018, 09:18:34 AM

Title: Bulls fire Fred Hoiberg
Post by: mr.MUskie on December 03, 2018, 09:18:34 AM
https://www.dailyherald.com/sports/20181203/reports-bulls-fire-head-coach-fred-hoiberg
Title: Re: Bulls fire Fred Hoiberg
Post by: GGGG on December 03, 2018, 09:45:11 AM
But Gar Pax remains...

And they hired the wrong Jim Boylen.
Title: Re: Bulls fire Fred Hoiberg
Post by: MU82 on December 03, 2018, 10:11:12 AM
This was doomed from the start.

Example #974 of the grass not always being greener.

If Hoiberg wants to keep coaching, he can make a ton of money and have a lot of success in college.
Title: Re: Bulls fire Fred Hoiberg
Post by: GB Warrior on December 03, 2018, 10:27:42 AM
Hoiberg to VT?
Title: Re: Bulls fire Fred Hoiberg
Post by: Pakuni on December 03, 2018, 10:32:25 AM
This was doomed from the start.

Example #974 of the grass not always being greener.

If Hoiberg wants to keep coaching, he can make a ton of money and have a lot of success in college.

On the other hand, he made $5 million a year coaching in the NBA (twice what he was making at Iowa State), gets to kick back on the couch and chill for the next four months, and can practically have his pick of college openings in the spring.
I don't think he regrets it.
Title: Re: Bulls fire Fred Hoiberg
Post by: GGGG on December 03, 2018, 10:51:27 AM
If DePaul were smart, they'd go after Hoiberg tomorrow.  He's exactly the type of coach that could move the needle there with his style of play and willingness to take on transfers.

However DePaul isn't smart.

So my guess is that he succeeds Richard Pitino at Minnesota. 
Title: Re: Bulls fire Fred Hoiberg
Post by: 🏀 on December 03, 2018, 10:54:08 AM
If DePaul were smart, they'd go after Hoiberg tomorrow.  He's exactly the type of coach that could move the needle there with his style of play and willingness to take on transfers.

However DePaul isn't smart.

So my guess is that he succeeds Richard Pitino at Minnesota. 

I would agree with you if Hoiberg wasn't dragged through the Chicago sports media mud for the last two seasons.
Title: Re: Bulls fire Fred Hoiberg
Post by: brewcity77 on December 03, 2018, 10:56:06 AM
Hoiberg to VT?

Honestly that wouldn't surprise me at all come April.
Title: Re: Bulls fire Fred Hoiberg
Post by: RJax55 on December 03, 2018, 10:59:47 AM
On the other hand, he made $5 million a year coaching in the NBA (twice what he was making at Iowa State), gets to kick back on the couch and chill for the next four months, and can practically have his pick of college openings in the spring.
I don't think he regrets it.

Yep, spot on. Plus, he can now get a better job than Iowa State, without ditching his Alma mater for another school.
Title: Re: Bulls fire Fred Hoiberg
Post by: Pakuni on December 03, 2018, 11:04:25 AM
Already talk of Hoiberg to UCLA, though some doubt his "Build a roster via transfer" philosophy would play so well in Westwood.
Title: Re: Bulls fire Fred Hoiberg
Post by: GGGG on December 03, 2018, 11:09:42 AM
I mean, is Hoiberg considered *that* good that he would end up at UCLA? 
Title: Re: Bulls fire Fred Hoiberg
Post by: Pakuni on December 03, 2018, 11:18:55 AM
I mean, is Hoiberg considered *that* good that he would end up at UCLA?

Took over an ISU program that had gone 59-68 with zero tourney appearances under Greg McDermott. After a 16-16 season, he went 99-40 over the next four years, with four straight NCAA invites.

That compares pretty favorably with what Alford did at Iowa and Howland at Pitt.
Title: Re: Bulls fire Fred Hoiberg
Post by: buckchuckler on December 03, 2018, 11:55:43 AM
Surprised they didn't wait until Christmas.
Title: Re: Bulls fire Fred Hoiberg
Post by: MU82 on December 03, 2018, 07:01:06 PM
On the other hand, he made $5 million a year coaching in the NBA (twice what he was making at Iowa State), gets to kick back on the couch and chill for the next four months, and can practically have his pick of college openings in the spring.
I don't think he regrets it.

Reasonable take, for sure.

In that respect, it reminds me of when Lon Kruger left Illinois to go to the Atlanta Hawks. I couldn't figure out for the life of me why the Hawks wanted him (at least Hoiberg to the Bulls made some sense), but he got some nice coin and then returned to college hoops when he felt like it.

Good point, Pakuni!
Title: Re: Bulls fire Fred Hoiberg
Post by: GGGG on December 03, 2018, 07:08:08 PM
Took over an ISU program that had gone 59-68 with zero tourney appearances under Greg McDermott. After a 16-16 season, he went 99-40 over the next four years, with four straight NCAA invites.

That compares pretty favorably with what Alford did at Iowa and Howland at Pitt.


Well I never thought Alford was a good hire for them.  But Howland was a west coast guy who arguably was more successful at Pitt than Hoiberg was at ISU.

I guess I can see him there though.
Title: Re: Bulls fire Fred Hoiberg
Post by: Eldon on December 03, 2018, 08:48:55 PM
If we miss the Tourney, I'd love to have Hoiberg at MU.