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Title: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: keefe on April 25, 2014, 03:42:12 PM
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Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: The Sultan of Silly on April 25, 2014, 03:55:17 PM
And yet another point guard to take away minutes from Wilson and Dawson....Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!

Duane Wilson needs 30 minutes a game and has NBA talent....but Wojo prefers a PG that reminds him of him and his multiple NIT runs at Duke when he was a player. 

Rookie coach mistake.

MU played for fools again after letting Buzz take us for $2.5MM a year and then let him steal our star recruits as well.  Ben Howland would never have let Hill and Pierce be allowed out of their NLI to go to VT as he knows how cut throat college basketball world is.  Hopefully we make one smart move over the next year as the last year has been a disaster. 

Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: wadesworld on April 25, 2014, 03:56:17 PM
And yet another point guard to take away minutes from Wilson and Dawson....Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!

Duane Wilson needs 30 minutes a game and has NBA talent....but Wojo prefers a PG that reminds him of him and his multiple NIT runs at Duke when he was a player. 

Rookie coach mistake.

MU played for fools again after letting Buzz take us for $2.5MM a year and then let him steal our star recruits as well.  Ben Howland would never have let Hill and Pierce be allowed out of their NLI to go to VT as he knows how cut throat college basketball world is.  Hopefully we make one smart move over the next year as the last year has been a disaster. 



Lol
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on April 25, 2014, 03:57:15 PM
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Marquette now at 11 scholarships for the 2014-15 season. Currently one player taller than 6-foot-7.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 25, 2014, 03:58:05 PM
Boom! Excellent news. Welcome to Warrior Nation Matt!
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on April 25, 2014, 03:59:29 PM
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The last FOUR seasons combined Marquette's starting PGs have made 63 3-pointers. Last year alone Carlino made 60. #mubb
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 25, 2014, 04:00:10 PM
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The last FOUR seasons combined Marquette's starting PGs have made 63 3-pointers. Last year alone Carlino made 60. #mubb

Exactly why I wanted him
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: keefe on April 25, 2014, 04:02:24 PM
Hopefully, this puts an end to a lot of the endless debate over PG. We should bear in mind that Carlino comes in for one year to provide some of the passion and on-court presence that was so desperately missing last season. It also takes a lot of pressure off Duane and Dawson so they can develop more constructively. Finally, I like that Carlino has Marquette DNA so this is a homecoming of sorts.

Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: keefe on April 25, 2014, 04:04:59 PM
http://verbalcommits.com/players/matt-carlino


Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: MU82 on April 25, 2014, 04:05:27 PM
And yet another point guard to take away minutes from Wilson and Dawson....Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!

Duane Wilson needs 30 minutes a game and has NBA talent....but Wojo prefers a PG that reminds him of him and his multiple NIT runs at Duke when he was a player. 

Rookie coach mistake.

MU played for fools again after letting Buzz take us for $2.5MM a year and then let him steal our star recruits as well.  Ben Howland would never have let Hill and Pierce be allowed out of their NLI to go to VT as he knows how cut throat college basketball world is.  Hopefully we make one smart move over the next year as the last year has been a disaster. 



A disaster was the landslide in Washington state. This is college basketball.

Ben Howland obviously had enough problems dealing with UCLA, which might explain why nobody has hired him.

You are as clueless as you are whiny and negative.

As for Carlino, I will repeat what I said on another thread:

We needed help everywhere, including the perimeter. We had the scholly and we weren't going to get three big men. It's a one-and-done situation. The best players will earn minutes. We will use plenty of 3- and 4-guard sets. Did you see Villanova play this past season? A team can win going small.

I see zero downside to this ... unless Carlino sucks. And he apparently doesn't. I will trust a guy who coached at Duke for 15 years and helped recruit some of the best athletes in the game to know more about Carlino's ability than some anonymous Internet mope does.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Sunbelt15 on April 25, 2014, 04:07:05 PM
And yet another point guard to take away minutes from Wilson and Dawson....Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!

Duane Wilson needs 30 minutes a game and has NBA talent....but Wojo prefers a PG that reminds him of him and his multiple NIT runs at Duke when he was a player. 

Rookie coach mistake.

MU played for fools again after letting Buzz take us for $2.5MM a year and then let him steal our star recruits as well.  Ben Howland would never have let Hill and Pierce be allowed out of their NLI to go to VT as he knows how cut throat college basketball world is.  Hopefully we make one smart move over the next year as the last year has been a disaster. 



His name says it all!
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Tums Festival on April 25, 2014, 04:07:32 PM
And yet another point guard to take away minutes from Wilson and Dawson....Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!

Duane Wilson needs 30 minutes a game and has NBA talent....but Wojo prefers a PG that reminds him of him and his multiple NIT runs at Duke when he was a player. 

Rookie coach mistake.

MU played for fools again after letting Buzz take us for $2.5MM a year and then let him steal our star recruits as well.  Ben Howland would never have let Hill and Pierce be allowed out of their NLI to go to VT as he knows how cut throat college basketball world is.  Hopefully we make one smart move over the next year as the last year has been a disaster. 



Welcome back Cuonzo. How's life at Cal so far?
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 25, 2014, 04:08:18 PM
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The last FOUR seasons combined Marquette's starting PGs have made 63 3-pointers. Last year alone Carlino made 60. #mubb

That's because we had a head coach that didn't believe in guys capable of doing traditional things, like stroke shots. 

Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: keefe on April 25, 2014, 04:09:19 PM
That's because we had a head coach that didn't believe in guys capable of doing traditional things, like stroke shots. 



Why shoot when you can dribble?
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: NavinRJohnson on April 25, 2014, 04:10:10 PM
And yet another point guard to take away minutes from Wilson and Dawson....Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!

Duane Wilson needs 30 minutes a game and has NBA talent....but Wojo prefers a PG that reminds him of him and his multiple NIT runs at Duke when he was a player. 


Unless Wojo was going to use a schoarship on a 6-10 guy he molded out of clay, there is little downside to this. As small as they are going to be, you will consistently see 3 and 4 guard lineups out of MU. Du Wilson and Dawson will, can, and should play plenty of time at the 2 pos. that would have been the case with or without Carlino. He's a guy to fill out the roster for a year. If there were better guys available, you might have a point, but at this point, the chances of finding a front court player or two that is any good are almost non-existent.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Norm on April 25, 2014, 04:15:18 PM
Its not hard to find better 3-point shooters than Junior and Derrick.

I hope Carlino works out and does not cause any problems in the locker room that he was rumored to cause at BYU. He is leaving Provo because he was not guaranteed to be the starter at PG. How will he react if he does not get the playing time he feels he deserves? And how does this affect Duane and John's development?

Not too excited about this transfer right now but hope I come to regret this feeling when he plays well and contributes next season.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: GGGG on April 25, 2014, 04:16:06 PM
And yet another point guard to take away minutes from Wilson and Dawson....Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!

Duane Wilson needs 30 minutes a game and has NBA talent....but Wojo prefers a PG that reminds him of him and his multiple NIT runs at Duke when he was a player.


So the new meme on this board is now "Wojo only likes traditional point guards?"

Great.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 25, 2014, 04:16:30 PM
You can never have too many PGs.

For reference, see the senior seasons of Dominic James and Travis Diener.  DJ's team had Final Four potential until his late-season injury, and then didn't get past the second round.  Diener's team looked like an NCAA team until he got injured and then lost to teams like St. Louis, TCU and ultimately Western Michigan in the NIT first round.

I suspect we will see plenty of 3 or even 4-guard lineups next season.  Seemed to work OK when we had the Amigos.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 25, 2014, 04:16:52 PM
Why shoot when you can dribble?

I'm ok with that if you can dribble to the rim and either convert or pass.  If neither of those are an option.....
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on April 25, 2014, 04:19:08 PM
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Burton said earlier this month that he likes Duane Wilson as a 2 more than at the point. He certainly has the scoring skill set.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Tums Festival on April 25, 2014, 04:21:05 PM
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Carlino on playing #mubb in 2012: "I remember playing Marquette, and Jae Crowder, he was an animal. He was an amazing player..."
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: mu03eng on April 25, 2014, 04:30:49 PM

So the new meme on this board is now "Wojo only likes traditional point guards?"

Great.

No late entries, tourney has started.... No more meme creation for at least 3 months
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: brandx on April 25, 2014, 04:37:48 PM
A disaster was the landslide in Washington state. This is college basketball.

Ben Howland obviously had enough problems dealing with UCLA, which might explain why nobody has hired him.

You are as clueless as you are whiny and negative.

As for Carlino, I will repeat what I said on another thread:

We needed help everywhere, including the perimeter. We had the scholly and we weren't going to get three big men. It's a one-and-done situation. The best players will earn minutes. We will use plenty of 3- and 4-guard sets. Did you see Villanova play this past season? A team can win going small.

I see zero downside to this ... unless Carlino sucks. And he apparently doesn't. I will trust a guy who coached at Duke for 15 years and helped recruit some of the best athletes in the game to know more about Carlino's ability than some anonymous Internet mope does.

+1

Getting a couple one-year guys is exactly what is needed to fill out the roster. Much better than bringing in any of the high school guys that are left over at this point in time.

And Carlino definitely has an attitude on the floor, which this team will need next year.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 25, 2014, 04:39:11 PM
I hope Carlino works out and does not cause any problems in the locker room that he was rumored to cause at BYU. He is leaving Provo because he was not guaranteed to be the starter at PG. How will he react if he does not get the playing time he feels he deserves? And how does this affect Duane and John's development?

I've heard that his biggest issue at BYU was being expected to be "the next Fredette"...and trying to live up to those expectatons.

Sounds like a change of scenery might do him a world of good.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: humanlung on April 25, 2014, 04:39:36 PM
+1

Getting a couple one-year guys is exactly what is needed to fill out the roster. Much better than bringing in any of the high school guys that are left over at this point in time.

And Carlino definitely has an attitude on the floor, which this team will need next year.

I totally agree with the need for attitude.  That was almost completely absent last year.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: keefe on April 25, 2014, 04:42:31 PM
You can never have too many PGs.

For reference, see the senior seasons of Dominic James and Travis Diener.  DJ's team had Final Four potential until his late-season injury, and then didn't get past the second round.  Diener's team looked like an NCAA team until he got injured and then lost to teams like St. Louis, TCU and ultimately Western Michigan in the NIT first round.

I suspect we will see plenty of 3 or even 4-guard lineups next season.  Seemed to work OK when we had the Amigos.

I couldn't agree more. Crean got caught with his pants down with Diener and those stupid contact drills he ran. The Western Michigan debacle was a low moment.

Some of the most fun basketball played in the past 40 years has been Jay Wright's 4 guard sets. Of course they were stupendous talents but it was a joy to watch them on both ends of the court. Hopefully we can approximate some of that success and excitement this season.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 25, 2014, 04:50:43 PM
I totally agree with the need for attitude.  That was almost completely absent last year.

Yep.  We saw some from Todd and Deonte, but you won't go far if the only guys who want to take the game over come off the bench....
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: MarquetteDano on April 25, 2014, 04:52:27 PM
Next season is shaping up to be a reverse of this season.  A lot of backcourt options but more limited in the frontcourt.

My guess is having a better backcourt with more options will equal more court success versus this past season.  Having a good frontcourt is wonderful if you have the guards.

We now have the guards.  Would be good to get a big who can at least play defense/rebound if Taylor and Fischer get into foul trouble.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: MaymonsPops on April 25, 2014, 04:54:56 PM
I've heard that his biggest issue at BYU was being expected to be "the next Fredette"...and trying to live up to those expectatons.

Sounds like a change of scenery might do him a world of good.

The only person who expected him to be "the next Fredette" was himself (and probably his father). He wore out the fan base some by never seeing a shot he didn't like and trying to be Jimmer. The problem was he isn't Jimmer, there were more talented players and better shooters on his team last year (Haws, Collinsworth). I suppose it's not the worst to actually have someone who wants to take a shot on our team, but I just hope all you ra ra ra guys aren't the same guys who are cursing him the first time he shoots us out of a game by going 2-18 with ~8 ill advised jumpers.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: keefe on April 25, 2014, 05:02:56 PM
the first time he shoots us out of a game by going 2-18 with ~8 ill advised jumpers.

You mean, like last year??
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: MU82 on April 25, 2014, 05:04:49 PM
The only person who expected him to be "the next Fredette" was himself (and probably his father). He wore out the fan base some by never seeing a shot he didn't like and trying to be Jimmer. The problem was he isn't Jimmer, there were more talented players and better shooters on his team last year (Haws, Collinsworth). I suppose it's not the worst to actually have someone who wants to take a shot on our team, but I just hope all you ra ra ra guys aren't the same guys who are cursing him the first time he shoots us out of a game by going 2-18 with ~8 ill advised jumpers.

2-for-18? So at least he'll be an improvement over Derrick!  ;D
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: chapman on April 25, 2014, 05:14:41 PM
Works for me.  There's a lot of potential with our guards, and as much inexperience.  Not enough to count on three to be on the floor at all times.  Two spots left. 
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Windyplayer on April 25, 2014, 05:19:25 PM
The only person who expected him to be "the next Fredette" was himself (and probably his father). He wore out the fan base some by never seeing a shot he didn't like and trying to be Jimmer. The problem was he isn't Jimmer, there were more talented players and better shooters on his team last year (Haws, Collinsworth). I suppose it's not the worst to actually have someone who wants to take a shot on our team, but I just hope all you ra ra ra guys aren't the same guys who are cursing him the first time he shoots us out of a game by going 2-18 with ~8 ill advised jumpers.
Nope, Burton is the man.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Sharpie on April 25, 2014, 05:20:25 PM
Welcome to MU Carlino.

I don't think this will discourage our young guards. It will create more competition and I'm confident that they will get better and rise to the challenge.

Now, let's get a couple guys with some height. I'm excited for next year not knowing what to expect whatsoever.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 25, 2014, 05:58:22 PM
The only person who expected him to be "the next Fredette" was himself (and probably his father). He wore out the fan base some by never seeing a shot he didn't like and trying to be Jimmer. The problem was he isn't Jimmer, there were more talented players and better shooters on his team last year (Haws, Collinsworth). I suppose it's not the worst to actually have someone who wants to take a shot on our team, but I just hope all you ra ra ra guys aren't the same guys who are cursing him the first time he shoots us out of a game by going 2-18 with ~8 ill advised jumpers.

I have a feeling that if he jacks up a few ill-advised jumpers, he'll find himself on the bench pretty quickly.  BYU might not have had the depth at guard to do that, but we have plenty.  If anything, people are worried that we have too much depth at guard.

So if he produces, he'll be a great asset.  If he doesn't, he'll only tie up a scholarship for one year while riding the pines.

Seems like a good idea....
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 25, 2014, 06:17:07 PM
Carlino > DeWi

Welcome, Matt. Shoot good shots, play hard defense, win the hearts of many.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: keefe on April 25, 2014, 07:06:49 PM
Carlino Interview

http://www.youtube.com/v/2E-sM05kr5Q?hl=en_US&version=3&rel=0
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Sunbelt15 on April 25, 2014, 07:09:37 PM
2-for-18? So at least he'll be an improvement over Derrick!  ;D

You really don't believe that?
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: wadesworld on April 25, 2014, 07:54:29 PM
Carlino Interview

http://www.youtube.com/v/2E-sM05kr5Q?hl=en_US&version=3&rel=0

Southpaw.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: HutchwasClutch on April 25, 2014, 08:01:57 PM
Family has ties to MU and Milwaukee- uncle played in the late 60's for MU and mother was raised in Milwaukee.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/cougars/57866253-88/carlino-marquette-byu-game.html.csp
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: HutchwasClutch on April 25, 2014, 08:07:08 PM
Carlino's addition does create a logjam at guard for MU, but with the sorry state of shooting on this team, they badly needed a veteran like him who can stroke it from 3.  His percentages from 3 haven't been very good, but four games last year with four or more made threes, including an 8-13 against Portland.  Six other games with three threes.  So when he's on, his impact shooting will be huge.  Hopefully he can find more consistency.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: HutchwasClutch on April 25, 2014, 08:15:16 PM
The way three guard lineups in college are so prevalent, minutes will be found for guys that deserve them.  So I would not do a lot of hand wringing for what will become of Duane W, Dawson, JJJ, if they play well, there will be minutes to be had one way or other. 

That being said, JJJ needs to get stronger and show more.  I know Buzz could have given him more opportunities, but the fact is, he certainly didn't stand out much when he did get minutes.  I'm not trashing the guy, just saying he very much looked like a freshman much of last year.  Dawson and Burton clearly looked more advanced to me.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: keefe on April 25, 2014, 08:19:12 PM
Carlino's addition does create a logjam at guard for MU, but with the sorry state of shooting on this team, they badly needed a veteran like him who can stroke it from 3.  His percentages from 3 haven't been very good, but four games last year with four or more made threes, including an 8-13 against Portland.  Six other games with three threes.  So when he's on, his impact shooting will be huge.  Hopefully he can find more consistency.

It will be refreshing to have a 1 who is a threat to can it. Last year was maddening.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: HutchwasClutch on April 25, 2014, 08:26:10 PM
I couldn't agree more. Crean got caught with his pants down with Diener and those stupid contact drills he ran. The Western Michigan debacle was a low moment.


+1, that's when I began to see the light of what an idiot Crean was.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 25, 2014, 08:34:14 PM
Carlino Interview

http://www.youtube.com/v/2E-sM05kr5Q?hl=en_US&version=3&rel=0


Didn't know the cat was white
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: HutchwasClutch on April 25, 2014, 08:37:25 PM
The only guys I see entrenched in the rotation from day one next year are Burton, Carlino, Taylor Jr., and Fischer (obviously Luke not until mid- December).  Other than those four, minutes are completely up for grabs next season- opportunities galore for the other 7 guys (as of now) to earn their time on the floor.  I think even with Mayo, his prior inconsistencies and the fact he just isn't a strong defender (I wouldn't even consider him average on that end), make him somewhat of a question mark, although I think his offensive ability is too good to not find a spot somewhere in the rotation.

It's going to be a fun battle to see unfold and they're all starting with a clean slate playing for a new coaching staff.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: wadesworld on April 25, 2014, 08:39:41 PM

Didn't know the cat was white

The dude survived 3 1/2 years in Provo. Of course he's white.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: keefe on April 25, 2014, 08:44:09 PM

Didn't know the cat was white

Carlino?

I flew with a guy named Ziegler. Ziggy played hoops at UPenn. Despite the Teutonic name he was a bro. I asked Zig about that and he laughed saying that his LA high school was full of German, Irish, Italian, and French names without a white face in sight. Said everybody liked a helping of Creole for dinner now and then.  
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Nukem2 on April 25, 2014, 08:49:19 PM
The only guys I see entrenched in the rotation from day one next year are Burton, Carlino, Taylor Jr., and Fischer (obviously Luke not until mid- December).  Other than those four, minutes are completely up for grabs next season- opportunities galore for the other 7 guys (as of now) to earn their time on the floor.  I think even with Mayo, his prior inconsistencies and the fact he just isn't a strong defender (I wouldn't even consider him average on that end), make him somewhat of a question mark, although I think his offensive ability is too good to not find a spot somewhere in the rotation.

It's going to be a fun battle to see unfold and they're all starting with a clean slate playing for a new coaching staff.

Actually, Mayo is a good man defender.  Just not good at Buzz's help protect the paint at all costs defense.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: injuryBug on April 25, 2014, 08:51:39 PM
Welcome to MU Matt!!

Never have enough quality guards it is a guards game!!!
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 25, 2014, 08:54:54 PM
Carlino?

I flew with a guy named Ziegler. Ziggy played hoops at UPenn. Despite the Teutonic name he was a bro. I asked Zig about that and he laughed saying that his LA high school was full of German, Irish, Italian, and French names without a white face in sight. Said everybody liked a helping of Creole for dinner now and then.  

One of Compton's finest.

(http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/224/224-344Fr.jpg)
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: keefe on April 25, 2014, 08:59:10 PM
The dude survived

Survive is right. How do you go that long without quenching any of a number of thirsts? At that age your moisture seeking missile is primed and ready 24/7.

There was a BYU hoopster who was suspended in-season for doing what nature intended. As I recall they were having a great year and the player was a leader on the court. I respect BYU for sticking to its values but I am amazed anyone not LDS would choose to live under such an invasive code.

The military has an honor code but there is nothing against two consenting adults (who are not married to others!) savoring the more earthy delights that have perpetuated the species for thousands of years. The BYU code, which must be signed every year by each student, forbids not just the usual honor issues about character and integrity but also forbids alcohol, tobacco, caffeine, drugs, and all sorts of rather mundane habits. Couldn't imagine not swilling joe in the morning.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 25, 2014, 09:05:59 PM
And yet another point guard to take away minutes from Wilson and Dawson....Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!

Duane Wilson needs 30 minutes a game and has NBA talent....but Wojo prefers a PG that reminds him of him and his multiple NIT runs at Duke when he was a player. 

Rookie coach mistake.

MU played for fools again after letting Buzz take us for $2.5MM a year and then let him steal our star recruits as well.  Ben Howland would never have let Hill and Pierce be allowed out of their NLI to go to VT as he knows how cut throat college basketball world is.  Hopefully we make one smart move over the next year as the last year has been a disaster. 

When your username is Sultan of Silly it's extremely tough to live up to that moniker.  You, however, time and time again manage to meet that challenge.  Congratulations!  Oh, silly one.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: bilsu on April 25, 2014, 09:07:51 PM
That gives the team two true point guards. Carlino and Dawson. Both Wilson's are combo guards and not true points.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: wadesworld on April 25, 2014, 09:11:15 PM
When your username is Sultan of Silly it's extremely tough to live up to that moniker.  You, however, time and time again manage to meet that challenge.  Congratulations!  Oh, silly one.

+1
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on April 25, 2014, 10:19:29 PM
That gives the team two true point guards. Carlino and Dawson. Both Wilson's are combo guards and not true points.

Wait, Derrick Wilson is a combo guard? as in PG/SG combo? you realize the "S" in SG stands for "shooting" right?
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: GurneeHitchkr on April 25, 2014, 10:42:47 PM
People complaining about this?  Like there's so much to choose from.  This was a quality acquisition.  Embrace it and Welcome Carlino.  Leadership.  Shooter.  Moxie.  We need this.  It will force the others step up, work harder and earn their minutes anyways.  Bring it!
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: augoman on April 25, 2014, 11:17:30 PM
Welcome mat..., (sorry).
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 25, 2014, 11:29:32 PM
Survive is right. How do you go that long without quenching any of a number of thirsts? At that age your moisture seeking missile is primed and ready 24/7.

There was a BYU hoopster who was suspended in-season for doing what nature intended. As I recall they were having a great year and the player was a leader on the court. I respect BYU for sticking to its values but I am amazed anyone not LDS would choose to live under such an invasive code.

The military has an honor code but there is nothing against two consenting adults (who are not married to others!) savoring the more earthy delights that have perpetuated the species for thousands of years. The BYU code, which must be signed every year by each student, forbids not just the usual honor issues about character and integrity but also forbids alcohol, tobacco, caffeine, drugs, and all sorts of rather mundane habits. Couldn't imagine not swilling joe in the morning.

nothing about 'roids in that contract, aina?
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: raul on April 25, 2014, 11:50:01 PM
After hearing of all the people leaving MU its nice to hear of some one coming to MU. With scholarships to give its a no brainer to give it to a guy with experience and who will only stay one year.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Skitch on April 26, 2014, 12:10:17 AM
Carlino?

I flew with a guy named Ziegler. Ziggy played hoops at UPenn. Despite the Teutonic name he was a bro. I asked Zig about that and he laughed saying that his LA high school was full of German, Irish, Italian, and French names without a white face in sight. Said everybody liked a helping of Creole for dinner now and then.  

Up until midway through the season I assumed Liam McMorrow was a red haired Irishman. Right up until I asked someone who the tall black guy in the sweater was.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 26, 2014, 12:11:13 AM
Carlino?

I flew with a guy named Ziegler. Ziggy played hoops at UPenn. Despite the Teutonic name he was a bro. I asked Zig about that and he laughed saying that his LA high school was full of German, Irish, Italian, and French names without a white face in sight. Said everybody liked a helping of Creole for dinner now and then.  

Told you f uckers that I was a not-trad.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Goose on April 26, 2014, 07:25:30 AM
Great news!!!
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: GGGG on April 26, 2014, 08:47:02 AM
People complaining about this?  Like there's so much to choose from.  This was a quality acquisition.  Embrace it and Welcome Carlino.  Leadership.  Shooter.  Moxie.  We need this.  It will force the others step up, work harder and earn their minutes anyways.  Bring it!


The people complaining are the same people that think John Dawson has Magic Johnson like qualities.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on April 26, 2014, 09:02:38 AM
I'm really excited about what this could mean for the lineup next year.   So hard to speculate because we have no sure idea what Wojo likes to do, but the options are definitely interesting.
If nothing else, it is going to look like a completely different brand of basketball out there next year.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 26, 2014, 09:38:43 AM
Would love to see a smaller/quicker line-up creating offense from defense

Next season is shaping up to be a reverse of this season.  A lot of backcourt options but more limited in the frontcourt.

My guess is having a better backcourt with more options will equal more court success versus this past season.  Having a good frontcourt is wonderful if you have the guards.

We now have the guards.  Would be good to get a big who can at least play defense/rebound if Taylor and Fischer get into foul trouble.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: MU Beaver on April 26, 2014, 09:45:24 AM
Paint Touches ‏@PaintTouches  1m
Burton said earlier this month that he likes Duane Wilson as a 2 more than at the point. He certainly has the scoring skill set.
I wish I had a Helicopter to take me to work vs sitting in traffic every morning. This is a huge hit to Duane's ego. He came to Marquette to play point guard. Would have started last year without injury. Should have started this year. I think you will see this Carlino as a 2 guard. Should free him up to shoot.  Either that or they will play a mix of him and duane on the floor at the same time. If this guy takes big minutes from DUane it is a huge mistake. Huge.. I hope Duane can handle it or it may be the start of a rough relationship with the new coach.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Wojo'sMojo on April 26, 2014, 09:53:57 AM
I wish I had a Helicopter to take me to work vs sitting in traffic every morning. This is a huge hit to Duane's ego. He came to Marquette to play point guard. Would have started last year without injury. Should have started this year. I think you will see this Carlino as a 2 guard. Should free him up to shoot.  Either that or they will play a mix of him and duane on the floor at the same time. If this guy takes big minutes from DUane it is a huge mistake. Huge.. I hope Duane can handle it or it may be the start of a rough relationship with the new coach.

Hopefully they play together a lot. I think the person this affects the most is Derrick. I see him getting very little, if any, playing time with this move.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: martyconlonontherun on April 26, 2014, 10:16:15 AM
Hopefully they play together a lot. I think the person this affects the most is Derrick. I see him getting very little, if any, playing time with this move.
Carlino -28/Derrick-19
Duane-28/Dawson-5/Cohen
Mayo-28/Johnson-17
Burton-28
Taylor-25/Anderson-22
Injuries will happen to free up some time. Honestly I could see Cohen/Johnson/Dawson getting less than 15 minutes combined once we get to league play once Luke comes to play.


Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: dannyp07 on April 26, 2014, 10:22:16 AM
http://youtu.be/mqERPFe-pdw
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: wadesworld on April 26, 2014, 10:25:13 AM
I wish I had a Helicopter to take me to work vs sitting in traffic every morning. This is a huge hit to Duane's ego. He came to Marquette to play point guard. Would have started last year without injury. Should have started this year. I think you will see this Carlino as a 2 guard. Should free him up to shoot.  Either that or they will play a mix of him and duane on the floor at the same time. If this guy takes big minutes from DUane it is a huge mistake. Huge.. I hope Duane can handle it or it may be the start of a rough relationship with the new coach.

Duane would not have started last year. He will see the floor whether it is at the point or off the ball. He is a playmaker and can do that from the 1 or the 2. If recruiting other players at the same position is a problem we might as well only take 5 players. If having to compete for minutes causes a player to have a rough relationship with a coach then I for one don't think he's the right fit for Marquette basketball. He can join McKay at Iowa State. The good thing is he had that option and doesn't think like you do. He's willing to work hard to warn what he wants.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: 79Warrior on April 26, 2014, 10:32:15 AM
Duane would not have started last year. He will see the floor whether it is at the point or off the ball. He is a playmaker and can do that from the 1 or the 2. If recruiting other players at the same position is a problem we might as well only take 5 players. If having to compete for minutes causes a player to have a rough relationship with a coach then I for one don't think he's the right fit for Marquette basketball. He can join McKay at Iowa State. The good thing is he had that option and doesn't think like you do. He's willing to work hard to warn what he wants.

Exactly. Duane has not played one minute yet. I have no clue how anyone can assume Duane would have started when no one has seen him play yet. Unrealistic expectations of newcomers disease.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Litehouse on April 26, 2014, 10:39:37 AM
I was hoping to see Duane take over at PG this year, oh well.  I'd rather have Duane at PG than SG because its easier to find other good SGs.

Speaking of SGs, any chance Charles Matthews reconsiders UK now that the Harrison twins are returning?  He might be the odd man left out there next year depending on their scholarship count.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: BCHoopster on April 26, 2014, 10:46:52 AM
Mathews is only a senior next year, the Harrison twins will be gone after next year.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: BCHoopster on April 26, 2014, 10:49:13 AM
I was hoping to see Duane take over at PG this year, oh well.  I'd rather have Duane at PG than SG because its easier to find other good SGs.

Speaking of SGs, any chance Charles Matthews reconsiders UK now that the Harrison twins are returning?  He might be the odd man left out there next year depending on their scholarship count.

Carlino and Duane can play together, the odd man out is Derrick Wilson, JJJ might play less minutes as well.  Carlino has done it already, the other two discussed will have to earn there minutes.
Good pick-up, much better than Jack Thomas, that is for sure.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: keefe on April 26, 2014, 11:02:04 AM
much better than Jack Thomas, that is for sure.

So, he is a rich man's Jake Thomas?
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Norm on April 26, 2014, 11:08:44 AM
Carlino and Duane can play together, the odd man out is Derrick Wilson, JJJ might play less minutes as well.  Carlino has done it already, the other two discussed will have to earn there minutes.
Good pick-up, much better than Jack Thomas, that is for sure.
I'm not so sure Derrick is the odd man out in this situation. Carlino will be the starter at the 1, otherwise he does not come here. Remember, he is leaving BYU because he won't start there next year - he's not going to transfer to another school unless he's going to be the main guy at PG. My guess is Derrick will be the primary backup, not Duane, as he plays decent D (not great, but good) and does not turn the ball over much - which is what you want in a backup. Carlino's minutes will definitely affect Duane's minute next year, in that Duane will play much less than had Carlino not transferred here.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Texas Western on April 26, 2014, 11:11:47 AM
I wish I had a Helicopter to take me to work vs sitting in traffic every morning. This is a huge hit to Duane's ego. He came to Marquette to play point guard. Would have started last year without injury. Should have started this year. I think you will see this Carlino as a 2 guard. Should free him up to shoot.  Either that or they will play a mix of him and duane on the floor at the same time. If this guy takes big minutes from DUane it is a huge mistake. Huge.. I hope Duane can handle it or it may be the start of a rough relationship with the new coach.
Agreed wih your points and also Wojo is missing the fact that Duane's success will play an important role in the recruitment of Diamond Stone. The risk reward on this particular is adversely skewed
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 26, 2014, 11:14:07 AM
I'm not so sure Derrick is the odd man out in this situation. Carlino will be the starter at the 1, otherwise he does not come here. Remember, he is leaving BYU because he won't start there next year - he's not going to transfer to another school unless he's going to be the main guy at PG. My guess is Derrick will be the primary backup, not Duane, as he plays decent D (not great, but good) and does not turn the ball over much - which is what you want in a backup. Carlino's minutes will definitely affect Duane's minute next year, in that Duane will play much less than had Carlino not transferred here.

I just think it moves Duane to the 2 to split time with JJ and Mayo slides to the 3.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Norm on April 26, 2014, 11:23:17 AM
I just think it moves Duane to the 2 to split time with JJ and Mayo slides to the 3.
Doesn't Burton play the 3?

Once Fisher is eligible, I can see Fisher at the 5, Taylor at the 4, Burton at the 3, Mayo at 2 and Carlino at 1. Juan will probably be the main backup for the 3-5 spots. Derrick could be the main backup for Carlino, with John and Duane splitting the remaining minutes. As for Duane playing the 2, isn't that more of a fit for JJJ and even Dawson? Again, we will have quite the logjam there now and someone is going to be the odd man out, and it might not be who most here expect (Derrick). And where does Sandy Cohen fit in in all of this?
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: keefe on April 26, 2014, 11:24:58 AM
I'm not so sure Derrick is the odd man out in this situation. Carlino will be the starter at the 1, otherwise he does not come here. Remember, he is leaving BYU because he won't start there next year - he's not going to transfer to another school unless he's going to be the main guy at PG. My guess is Derrick will be the primary backup, not Duane, as he plays decent D (not great, but good) and does not turn the ball over much - which is what you want in a backup. Carlino's minutes will definitely affect Duane's minute next year, in that Duane will play much less than had Carlino not transferred here.

Not sure this affects anyone's minutes beyond Derrick. What this does for the TEAM is that they have a lot more options and looks which is a good thing. Carlino is a force multiplier who will add complexity for opponents to game plan.

At the end of the day, with 10 guys on the roster, you get the best available talent this late in the recruiting season. Matt Carlino is an exceptional talent who brings some important intangibles that were missing on last year's Marquette roster. There is no down side to this signing and I should think that players would welcome the addition of someone who will make them a better team. If anyone complains ask them how they like 17-15...
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: wadesworld on April 26, 2014, 11:25:29 AM
Agreed wih your points and also Wojo is missing the fact that Duane's success will play an important role in the recruitment of Diamond Stone. The risk reward on this particular is adversely skewed

So we should decide playing time based on what it may do to the thoughts of players we are recruiting and we should decide who we bring in based on whether there is a talented player on the roster at that same position that it could take minutes from?  Man, there are some revolutionary basketball ideas being thrown around on this board.

News flash:  Duane Wilson and Diamond Stone are 2 years apart.  They are not related.  If Diamond Stone wants to come here he will come regardless of whether Duane is the happiest person in the world or miserable.  If the lure of a blue blood who gives Diamond the best chance to take 1 year, have success, and go to the NBA is enough, Diamond will be at a school like Kentucky.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: BCHoopster on April 26, 2014, 11:48:15 AM
Doesn't Burton play the 3?

Once Fisher is eligible, I can see Fisher at the 5, Taylor at the 4, Burton at the 3, Mayo at 2 and Carlino at 1. Juan will probably be the main backup for the 3-5 spots. Derrick could be the main backup for Carlino, with John and Duane splitting the remaining minutes. As for Duane playing the 2, isn't that more of a fit for JJJ and even Dawson? Again, we will have quite the logjam there now and someone is going to be the odd man out, and it might not be who most here expect (Derrick). And where does Sandy Cohen fit in in all of this?

Sandy Cohen is the 11th man on this team right now, and truly could use a year as a red-shirt.  Physically he has a long way to go.  Like his size, lets see how he plays this summer but I just
do not see it.  I do not see Mayo at the 2, not quick enough and last year he played more at the 3 which gave him an advantage.  I see Carlino, Duane, Mayo, Burton and Fisher.  Taylor will
play tons of minutes as a back-up to both the 4 and 5.  Cohen, Derrick and Juan art 11,10,9 on the roster.  Wojo owes nothing to the returning players, they will have to earn minutes as well.
JJJ and Dawson will be subs getting time.  Duke never has a full roster, they play maybe 8 players and lets them play.  The Buzz defense, offense crap is over.  Earn your time in practice, who
knows what will happen the next 6 months.  If Duane wants to play 30 minutes a game then have a great summer, prove you deserve it.  We know what the other players bring, Duane is the
only one we do not.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 26, 2014, 12:51:30 PM
With only one true center (Fischer) and only one other true big (Taylor). I would expect them to spend most of their time at the five. The four will be some rotation of Anderson, Burton, and Johnson. It will be up to Cohen/Mayo/Johnson/Duane/Dawson to fill up the 2 and the 3. There will be plenty of minutes to go around, especially before Luke is eligible.

I could see something like this:

1: Carlino (30 mins) Derrick (10 mins)
2: Mayo (15 mins) Duane (10 mins) Dawson (5 mins)
3: Johnson (20 mins) Mayo (15 mins) Cohen (5 mins)
4: Burton (25 minutes) Anderson (15 mins)
5: Fischer (20 mins) Taylor (20 mins)

I think the 1/4/5 are pretty much set (barring another commit). The minutes for the 2/3 spots are completely up for grabs. Whoever is the best will get the minutes.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: The Sultan of Silly on April 26, 2014, 03:57:23 PM
A kid with this arsenal of talent deserves only 10 minutes a game and hasn't proved anything yet?????   ?-(

A smart coach would push the ball up with Duane at the 1, JJJ at the 2 and Burton at the 3 Taylor at the 4 and Fisher at the 5. 

Dawson, Mayo and Cohen would also get minutes.  Small but speed kills line-up.

8 deep rotation with Anderson, Derrick Wilson emergency players on the bench (Anderson playing more until Fisher eligible).   

Carlino subtracts more than he adds as Duane Wilson is a very special talent and will probably only play a year or two at MU before being ready for the NBA....take away his minutes and him and his dad will have him on the next train out of town to a school that will play him 30 minutes a game as too much money is at stake for someone with his NBA talent.

Marquette needs to stay the uptempo urban based team as we cannot compete with trying to look and play like Wisconsin in Wisconsin as they have a monopoly on those type of traditional players that can help you win with that style of play at the highest level. 

Wojo with this move appears to want to make us Duke of Milwaukee with a lot of traditional role players which just won't work and will push us back to a level more with UW-Milwaukee than Duke. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9TxMYxKiEI
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Sunbelt15 on April 26, 2014, 04:03:08 PM
With only one true center (Fischer) and only one other true big (Taylor). I would expect them to spend most of their time at the five. The four will be some rotation of Anderson, Burton, and Johnson. It will be up to Cohen/Mayo/Johnson/Duane/Dawson to fill up the 2 and the 3. There will be plenty of minutes to go around, especially before Luke is eligible.

I could see something like this:

1: Carlino (30 mins) Derrick (10 mins)
2: Mayo (15 mins) Duane (10 mins) Dawson (5 mins)
3: Johnson (20 mins) Mayo (15 mins) Cohen (5 mins)
4: Burton (25 minutes) Anderson (15 mins)
5: Fischer (20 mins) Taylor (20 mins)

I think the 1/4/5 are pretty much set (barring another commit). The minutes for the 2/3 spots are completely up for grabs. Whoever is the best will get the minutes.

Where does this "Duane at the two spot" comes from. Just because of Carlino, Duane and Dawson are not seen as point guards next year? Wow
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: wadesworld on April 26, 2014, 04:08:04 PM
A kid with this arsenal of talent deserves only 10 minutes a game and hasn't proved anything yet?????   ?-(

A smart coach would push the ball up with Duane at the 1, JJJ at the 2 and Burton at the 3 Taylor at the 4 and Fisher at the 5. 

Dawson, Mayo and Cohen would also get minutes.  Small but speed kills line-up.

8 deep rotation with Anderson, Derrick Wilson emergency players on the bench (Anderson playing more until Fisher eligible).   

Carlino subtracts more than he adds as Duane Wilson is a very special talent and will probably only play a year or two at MU before being ready for the NBA....take away his minutes and him and his dad will have him on the next train out of town to a school that will play him 30 minutes a game as too much money is at stake for someone with his NBA talent.

Marquette needs to stay the uptempo urban based team as we cannot compete with trying to look and play like Wisconsin in Wisconsin as they have a monopoly on those type of traditional players that can help you win with that style of play at the highest level. 

Wojo with this move appears to want to make us Duke of Milwaukee with a lot of traditional role players which just won't work and will push us back to a level more with UW-Milwaukee than Duke. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9TxMYxKiEI

Lol
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: bilsu on April 26, 2014, 04:15:13 PM
Duane is a two that Buzz hoped could be made a point. My guess is Anderson is back to playing backup 4.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: bilsu on April 26, 2014, 04:18:27 PM
Carlino averaged 27.3 minutes a game last year. He probably does not average more than 25 next year.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: MarquetteDano on April 26, 2014, 04:22:33 PM
Carlino subtracts more than he adds as Duane Wilson is a very special talent and will probably only play a year or two at MU before being ready for the NBA....take away his minutes and him and his dad will have him on the next train out of town to a school that will play him 30 minutes a game as too much money is at stake for someone with his NBA talent.

Unless Carlino is a cancer or someone transfers because of a perceived lack of minutes, he does not subtract more than he adds.  If Du Wilson gets injured or doesn't turn out as well as hoped, we are in exactly the same situation at point that we were last year.  I don't see having depth at the guard position as a subtraction.  Without Otule/Gardner/Wilson the guards are going to be key this upcoming season.  Adding depth is not a subtraction.

If we could find a serviceable big who can play right away this team will be looking good.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 26, 2014, 04:29:36 PM
I envision this year's club like the 2005-06 Villanova club but with less experience, little proven offensive prowess and rebounding.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005%E2%80%9306_Villanova_Wildcats_men's_basketball_team

Carlino can be Nardi
Duane/Dawson is/are Lowry
Dawson is Ray
Mayo is Foye
JJJ is Clark
Cohen is Anderson
Deonte is Sumpter
Steve can be Dante Cunningham (until Luke qualifies)
Derrick is Benn
Juan is Fraser

Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Wojo'sMojo on April 26, 2014, 04:37:59 PM
With only one true center (Fischer) and only one other true big (Taylor). I would expect them to spend most of their time at the five. The four will be some rotation of Anderson, Burton, and Johnson. It will be up to Cohen/Mayo/Johnson/Duane/Dawson to fill up the 2 and the 3. There will be plenty of minutes to go around, especially before Luke is eligible.

I could see something like this:

1: Carlino (30 mins) Derrick (10 mins)
2: Mayo (15 mins) Duane (10 mins) Dawson (5 mins)
3: Johnson (20 mins) Mayo (15 mins) Cohen (5 mins)
4: Burton (25 minutes) Anderson (15 mins)
5: Fischer (20 mins) Taylor (20 mins)

I think the 1/4/5 are pretty much set (barring another commit). The minutes for the 2/3 spots are completely up for grabs. Whoever is the best will get the minutes.

So you think that Dawson plays 5 minutes a game at SG and that's his playing time for next year? I think if that happens he will be a mid season transfer. I wonder if Derrick is considering transferring? He played 30 minutes agame last year and to be cut down to 10 would be a big slap in the face.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Markusquette on April 26, 2014, 04:39:51 PM
So you think that Dawson plays 5 minutes a game at SG and that's his playing time for next year? I think if that happens he will be a mid season transfer. I wonder if Derrick is considering transferring? He played 30 minutes agame last year and to be cut down to 10 would be a big slap in the face.

Realistically he shouldn't be upset.  Derrick's skill set is only worth 10 minutes a game. 
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: willie warrior on April 26, 2014, 05:43:56 PM
So you think that Dawson plays 5 minutes a game at SG and that's his playing time for next year? I think if that happens he will be a mid season transfer. I wonder if Derrick is considering transferring? He played 30 minutes agame last year and to be cut down to 10 would be a big slap in the face.
Derrick transferring would...be...a...huge...no loss!
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 26, 2014, 05:46:18 PM
Carlino in action photos:

(http://img.deseretnews.com/images/article/contentimage/1339587/1339587.jpg)
(http://img.deseretnews.com/images/article/contentimage/1339467/1339467.jpg)
(http://binaryapi.ap.org/e8f0e45c32d947f388e74276f35d1750/940x.jpg)
(http://binaryapi.ap.org/90fb28c104884f649e28ac9f5101ee1c/940x.jpg)
(http://static.foxsports.com/content/fscom/img/2012/03/15/byu_20120315170212425_660_320.JPG)
(http://binaryapi.ap.org/73cbefabbb8e4aca916d3bcaf81bd1fe/940x.jpg)
(http://byucougars.com/files/imagecache/728x410/photos/photo.JPG)



His line that game?
32 min
2-10 FG
1-4 3PT
2-2 FT
2 reb
4 ast
2 stl
5 TO
2 PF
7 PTS

It was a really good MU team that year but let the numbers speak for themselves.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: wadesworld on April 26, 2014, 05:54:45 PM
Carlino in action photos:

(http://img.deseretnews.com/images/article/contentimage/1339587/1339587.jpg)
(http://img.deseretnews.com/images/article/contentimage/1339467/1339467.jpg)
(http://binaryapi.ap.org/e8f0e45c32d947f388e74276f35d1750/940x.jpg)
(http://binaryapi.ap.org/90fb28c104884f649e28ac9f5101ee1c/940x.jpg)
(http://static.foxsports.com/content/fscom/img/2012/03/15/byu_20120315170212425_660_320.JPG)
(http://binaryapi.ap.org/73cbefabbb8e4aca916d3bcaf81bd1fe/940x.jpg)
(http://byucougars.com/files/imagecache/728x410/photos/photo.JPG)



His line that game?
32 min
2-10 FG
1-4 3PT
2-2 FT
2 reb
4 ast
2 stl
5 TO
2 PF
7 PTS

It was a really good MU team that year but let the numbers speak for themselves.

That was 3 years ago and we beat them by about 30.  But yeah, let's draw conclusions based on one game.

People love to complain and be miserable here.  People would be unhappy with LeBron on the roster because it might stunt Burton's growth as a player.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: jsglow on April 26, 2014, 06:06:04 PM
The thing I see in the pictures is Junior actively covering BYU's then PG.  'Nuff said.  Welcome Matt.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 26, 2014, 06:36:25 PM
No hate for Matt, just hope he brings more and harder to this team than he did against a tourney team in MU.

Because that's what we'll need from him to win the BE and head into the Tourney.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Texas Western on April 26, 2014, 06:52:09 PM
A kid with this arsenal of talent deserves only 10 minutes a game and hasn't proved anything yet?????   ?-(

A smart coach would push the ball up with Duane at the 1, JJJ at the 2 and Burton at the 3 Taylor at the 4 and Fisher at the 5. 

Dawson, Mayo and Cohen would also get minutes.  Small but speed kills line-up.

8 deep rotation with Anderson, Derrick Wilson emergency players on the bench (Anderson playing more until Fisher eligible).   

Carlino subtracts more than he adds as Duane Wilson is a very special talent and will probably only play a year or two at MU before being ready for the NBA....take away his minutes and him and his dad will have him on the next train out of town to a school that will play him 30 minutes a game as too much money is at stake for someone with his NBA talent.

Marquette needs to stay the uptempo urban based team as we cannot compete with trying to look and play like Wisconsin in Wisconsin as they have a monopoly on those type of traditional players that can help you win with that style of play at the highest level. 

Wojo with this move appears to want to make us Duke of Milwaukee with a lot of traditional role players which just won't work and will push us back to a level more with UW-Milwaukee than Duke. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9TxMYxKiEI

Agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: WarhawkWarrior on April 26, 2014, 07:26:23 PM
Who the heck will the bigs practice against.  Mac better get in shape.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Markusquette on April 26, 2014, 07:49:14 PM
Agree with this analysis.

I guess that makes two dummies (safe insult?) then.  I don't think anyone has a clue how Duane will perform his first year.  I have high hopes, but whoever says adding a skilled 5th year senior with experience is a subtraction to the team isn't thinking with much clarity.  The experience is a big plus, regardless of what role he has on the team.  
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: keefe on April 26, 2014, 07:59:54 PM
I guess that makes two dummies (safe insult?) then.  I don't think anyone has a clue how Duane will perform his first year.  I have high hopes, but whoever says adding a skilled 5th year senior with experience is a subtraction to the team isn't thinking with much clarity.  The experience is a big plus, regardless of what role he has on the team.  

Well there you have it. The Patrick Reed Stamp of Approval.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: BCHoopster on April 26, 2014, 08:02:52 PM
I guess that makes two dummies (safe insult?) then.  I don't think anyone has a clue how Duane will perform his first year.  I have high hopes, but whoever says adding a skilled 5th year senior with experience is a subtraction to the team isn't thinking with much clarity.  The experience is a big plus, regardless of what role he has on the team.  
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I agree, the players want to win, you play the best players.  If somebody transfers in the future, so be it. I am sure Duane and the rest are up to the challenge. Carling is much better than Jake and his outside shot with Duane's range will up the lane for Burton  and Fisher.  I expect every team has issues, just think What Buzz would have done with 13 players.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Markusquette on April 26, 2014, 08:09:12 PM
Well there you have it. The Patrick Reed Stamp of Approval.

(http://abload.de/img/reedstamp2per1.jpg)
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: keefe on April 26, 2014, 09:24:05 PM
(http://abload.de/img/reedstamp2per1.jpg)

Incredible!!
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 26, 2014, 09:48:22 PM
If Duane is such a talent (which I hope he is) then why is Carlino coming in a problem? Wojo will see that and start him at the point. Carlino will shift to SG or be a backup.

I seriously don't understand how there is any downside to this.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 26, 2014, 09:57:31 PM
Where does this "Duane at the two spot" comes from. Just because of Carlino, Duane and Dawson are not seen as point guards next year? Wow

Typically you don't have more than 2 players running the point on a team. Carlino seems like he will be the starter and Derrick only has the skill set to be a point. Duane can play multiple positions. We will be running four guard sets next season, we will need our points to play the 2 and even the 3.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: MU82 on April 26, 2014, 10:00:14 PM
A kid with this arsenal of talent deserves only 10 minutes a game and hasn't proved anything yet?????   ?-(

A smart coach would push the ball up with Duane at the 1, JJJ at the 2 and Burton at the 3 Taylor at the 4 and Fisher at the 5. 

Dawson, Mayo and Cohen would also get minutes.  Small but speed kills line-up.

8 deep rotation with Anderson, Derrick Wilson emergency players on the bench (Anderson playing more until Fisher eligible).   

Carlino subtracts more than he adds as Duane Wilson is a very special talent and will probably only play a year or two at MU before being ready for the NBA....take away his minutes and him and his dad will have him on the next train out of town to a school that will play him 30 minutes a game as too much money is at stake for someone with his NBA talent.

Marquette needs to stay the uptempo urban based team as we cannot compete with trying to look and play like Wisconsin in Wisconsin as they have a monopoly on those type of traditional players that can help you win with that style of play at the highest level. 

Wojo with this move appears to want to make us Duke of Milwaukee with a lot of traditional role players which just won't work and will push us back to a level more with UW-Milwaukee than Duke. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9TxMYxKiEI

Why don't you go back to your Nevada ranch and keep the gubmint from stealin' your cattle, Cliven Bundy. Then you can tell us one more thing you know about the Negro.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 26, 2014, 10:17:36 PM
So you think that Dawson plays 5 minutes a game at SG and that's his playing time for next year? I think if that happens he will be a mid season transfer. I wonder if Derrick is considering transferring? He played 30 minutes a game last year and to be cut down to 10 would be a big slap in the face.

Derrick is one least egotistical players I have ever seen. Comes from a military family. He will do whatever the coach asks of him.

Last season Dawson was the 2nd of 2 point guards. This season he will be the fourth of four. I think he will have the chance to earn his playing time. I think most likely it will be at the 2 in a three or four guard set. I think there are a lot of unknowns between Dawson/Duane/Johnson/Cohen. Us scoopers know nothing about how they will perform when they get consistent minutes. It will be up to CoWojo to determine their skills and how to best utilize them. And if Dawson can't earn the minutes and transfers because of it, than best of luck to him. It means he wasn't good enough to hack it at Marquette. I really don't understand this fear of players transferring because of lack of playing time.

These are my predictions, nothing more. I also wouldn't be surprised if Duane/Dawson/Cohen are even better than advertised and get more minutes than I predict.

What are your predictions?
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: GGGG on April 26, 2014, 10:52:23 PM
So you think that Dawson plays 5 minutes a game at SG and that's his playing time for next year? I think if that happens he will be a mid season transfer.

If Dawson ends up playing 5mpg and is a mid-season transfer, good luck to him.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: bilsu on April 27, 2014, 09:18:03 AM
If Dawson ends up playing 5mpg and is a mid-season transfer, good luck to him.
I am not sure he would transfer. I am sure he played more than he expected to last season when he signed with MU. Derrick Wilson, Carlino and Mayo are seniors, so it would not be unreasonable for Dawson to expect his playing time to increase significantly as a junior. He would transfer, if he does not like Wojo and maybe if MU signed a highly touted point guard that would result in Dawson not playing much as a junior or senior.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: BCHoopster on April 27, 2014, 09:28:54 AM
What is all the hype about Dawson?  He needs to improve in all aspects of his game, particularly strength.  Not strong enough yet.  This will be a big summer for him and Duane.  Wojo will
play the players that are the Best 5, he did not recruit these kids.  This is Buzz's talent, so really they start practice right now with 11 kids, 5 will prove they deserve the most time.  Rarely
do you see kids transfer after there soph year, they do it right away.  Wojo kept all 9 that is a good sign.  They only have 7 after that, there will be time for Dawson, lots of it, after next
year. 
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 27, 2014, 11:22:11 AM
Why don't you go back to your Nevada ranch and keep the gubmint from stealin' your cattle, Cliven Bundy. Then you can tell us one more thing you know about the Negro.

I'd ask his body guard
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Wojo'sMojo on April 27, 2014, 06:48:54 PM
Derrick is one least egotistical players I have ever seen. Comes from a military family. He will do whatever the coach asks of him.

Last season Dawson was the 2nd of 2 point guards. This season he will be the fourth of four. I think he will have the chance to earn his playing time. I think most likely it will be at the 2 in a three or four guard set. I think there are a lot of unknowns between Dawson/Duane/Johnson/Cohen. Us scoopers know nothing about how they will perform when they get consistent minutes. It will be up to CoWojo to determine their skills and how to best utilize them. And if Dawson can't earn the minutes and transfers because of it, than best of luck to him. It means he wasn't good enough to hack it at Marquette. I really don't understand this fear of players transferring because of lack of playing time.

These are my predictions, nothing more. I also wouldn't be surprised if Duane/Dawson/Cohen are even better than advertised and get more minutes than I predict.

What are your predictions?

I respect your opinion and I told you my prediction about what Dawson would do if given Derrick's minutes the other day. Obviously things have now changed. I really don't see Derrick getting more than a couple minutes in mop up duty with the addition of Carlino. I'm not going to go on a Derrick bashing session, but when you are as big an offensive liability as he is, he adds a negative value to the team when playing major minutes. He can be useful if used in defensive situations, but beyond that I fail to see where he offers any value. That should be his role in my opinion and should probably equate to 4-5 minutes a game. He has probably reached his potential, while Dawson in theory should be still ascending. I think this is going to turn into an interesting situation and hope Wojo gives everyone a fair shake. Open competition should bring out the best in everyone and we will be better because of it!
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Nevada233 on April 27, 2014, 11:48:58 PM
A kid with this arsenal of talent deserves only 10 minutes a game and hasn't proved anything yet?????   ?-(

A smart coach would push the ball up with Duane at the 1, JJJ at the 2 and Burton at the 3 Taylor at the 4 and Fisher at the 5. 

Dawson, Mayo and Cohen would also get minutes.  Small but speed kills line-up.

8 deep rotation with Anderson, Derrick Wilson emergency players on the bench (Anderson playing more until Fisher eligible).   

Carlino subtracts more than he adds as Duane Wilson is a very special talent and will probably only play a year or two at MU before being ready for the NBA....take away his minutes and him and his dad will have him on the next train out of town to a school that will play him 30 minutes a game as too much money is at stake for someone with his NBA talent.

Marquette needs to stay the uptempo urban based team as we cannot compete with trying to look and play like Wisconsin in Wisconsin as they have a monopoly on those type of traditional players that can help you win with that style of play at the highest level. 

Wojo with this move appears to want to make us Duke of Milwaukee with a lot of traditional role players which just won't work and will push us back to a level more with UW-Milwaukee than Duke. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9TxMYxKiEI

Exactly. I spoke to Duanes dad in NYC at the Big Debacle that was Buzzards last game coaching and hes certainly not gonna have Duane here playing spot minutes for wojo. Anything other than prime time and Duane is gone.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: wadesworld on April 27, 2014, 11:49:59 PM
Exactly. I spoke to Duanes dad in NYC at the Big Debacle that was Buzzards last game coaching and hes certainly not gonna have Duane here playing spot minutes for wojo. Anything other than prime time and Duane is gone.

Okay
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 28, 2014, 01:11:16 AM
Exactly. I spoke to Duanes dad in NYC at the Big Debacle that was Buzzards last game coaching and hes certainly not gonna have Duane here playing spot minutes for wojo. Anything other than prime time and Duane is gone.

1) I don't believe this for a second

2) If it is true, Duane is a lot more grounded and mature than his father. Because from all that I have been hearing he understands that playing time is earned and has been working his ass off to get better.

3) If it's true, then good riddance. If you aren't good enough to beat out your competition and you instead demand playing time because you believe you are entitled to "prime time," then you are a cancer to the team. Playing time is earned and at the time of this supposed conversation Duane hadn't done anything to prove that he is better than his competition. He may very well do that and be the best player on this team, but until he earns it, he doesn't have a right to a single minute on the floor.

I still don't understand the fear some people have about players transferring because of playing time. If they weren't good enough to earn time, than they probably weren't that good to begin with. Let them transfer to North Carolina Central, Eastern Illinois, or Florida Gulf Coast to find their minutes.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: NotBuzzWilliams on April 28, 2014, 01:18:16 AM
Duane tweeted the other day about his grandpa dying and how he always wanted to see him play at MU (his page is deactivated right now so I can't get the exact wording).  I really don't think he would leave because of playing time.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: keefe on April 28, 2014, 10:30:32 AM
Duane tweeted the other day about his grandpa dying and how he always wanted to see him play at MU (his page is deactivated right now so I can't get the exact wording).  I really don't think he would leave because of playing time.

But did his grandfather want to play at MU? Guy might have gotten winded playing prime time minutes.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: We R Final Four on April 28, 2014, 10:50:13 AM
awesome.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: NotBuzzWilliams on April 28, 2014, 01:10:56 PM
But did his grandfather want to play at MU? Guy might have gotten winded playing prime time minutes.

I don't know how many years of eligibility he had left, but maybe we could've pulled a "Chris Otule"-type exception for him
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: 79Warrior on April 28, 2014, 02:02:37 PM
Exactly. I spoke to Duanes dad in NYC at the Big Debacle that was Buzzards last game coaching and hes certainly not gonna have Duane here playing spot minutes for wojo. Anything other than prime time and Duane is gone.

If Duane is as good as some think, he will play. If not, he won't. Pretty simple.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: keefe on April 28, 2014, 02:13:48 PM
If Duane is as good as some think

Bert didn't think so...
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: willie warrior on April 28, 2014, 03:42:05 PM
Bert didn't think so...
And we all know what that let to: 17-15; several players looking at transferring; no dance; Buzz gone; and the slurpers burping.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: keefe on April 28, 2014, 03:44:06 PM
And we all know what that let to: 17-15; several players looking at transferring; no dance; Buzz gone; and the slurpers burping.

Well, that's better than anal coughing...
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 28, 2014, 06:20:32 PM
Barney was one odd duck, aina?
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: keefe on April 28, 2014, 11:17:41 PM
Barney was one odd duck, aina?

Why do you say that, Doc?


(http://i.imgur.com/1uOA2fJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: willie warrior on April 29, 2014, 11:31:04 AM
Why do you say that, Doc?


(http://i.imgur.com/1uOA2fJ.jpg)
Keefe, can't you animate this a bit and show him doing the Texas Two Step in these threads?
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: keefe on April 29, 2014, 09:39:23 PM
Interesting that Wojo specifically mentioned today needing to shore up the One. No question why he signed Carlino. I expect great things.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: Wojo'sMojo on April 29, 2014, 09:41:11 PM
Interesting that Wojo specifically mentioned today needing to shore up the One. No question why he signed Carlino. I expect great things.

Weird how we would need to shore up the 1, when we already have a game changer there  ;D
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: tower912 on April 30, 2014, 05:22:32 AM
http://www.brewcityball.com/forums/content.php?655-Carlino-fired-up-to-be-Golden-Eagle

Nice interview.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: keefe on May 04, 2014, 02:32:50 PM
Lots of BYU folks in Seattle so I heard this am that BYU had its graduation convocation a couple weeks ago. If so then Carlino should be free to be on campus. Let's hope he gets here asap and begins to mesh with the team. I am very pleased we signed this guy.
Title: Re: Carlino a Warrior
Post by: 77ncaachamps on May 04, 2014, 03:39:21 PM
Weird how we would need to shore up the 1, when we already have a game changer there  ;D

Hey now. Don't bash DWil on here. People will jump you for doing that.

 ::)