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Author Topic: flagrant one?  (Read 7129 times)

Hards Alumni

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flagrant one?
« on: February 24, 2016, 08:41:08 PM »
It's garbage.  And it makes cbb impossible to watch.  It's hard being a fan when one guy dives at someone's knees, and his face is mistaken for the ball.

Absolutely embarrassing officiating.

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2016, 08:41:36 PM »
unnatural carnal knowledgeing pathetic call

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2016, 08:42:42 PM »
Henry gets fouled, then gets called for a garbage flagrant 1, so they get two shots and the ball and we get nothing. Wojo is right that it's "unnatural carnal knowledgeing bullcrap".

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2016, 09:04:44 PM »
Actually just a technical. Agree the officiating has been crap though.

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2016, 09:11:18 PM »
Creighton manhandled every player on the team, and got away with it. Im not one to talk about refs, but seriously, anyone with eyes could have seen the nonsense that happened.

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2016, 09:12:04 PM »
I tweeted at the big east account. Not like it's gonna do anything but made me feel better.

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2016, 09:12:23 PM »
Creighton manhandled every player on the team, and got away with it. Im not one to talk about refs, but seriously, anyone with eyes could have seen the nonsense that happened.

Agreed.  Brutal.

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2016, 09:13:36 PM »
It was the right call.

Any contact with the head of a player during a dead ball is an automatic technical.  Henry clearly pushed the face of the player.  Very poor decision.

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2016, 09:14:34 PM »
Refs are playing much too large of a role in these games.

Early in the game, the refs halted play, in the middle of a possession, in order to review god only knows what, because nothing came of it.  And no explanation was provided.

Tuck in the egos, refs.  The game is not about you.
All this talk of rights.  So little talk of responsibilities.

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2016, 09:14:50 PM »
Breading should be fired!  Been bad for a long time

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2016, 09:15:34 PM »
Refs were brutal... Lets take this to a replay for 3 min while MU has momentum though to decide how bad they were...
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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2016, 09:18:59 PM »
It was the right call.

Any contact with the head of a player during a dead ball is an automatic technical.  Henry clearly pushed the face of the player.  Very poor decision.

No, it was not the right call.  The guy dove at Henry's legs.  It was clear that Henry thought the ball was the kids face.  There was no eye contact made to show he didn't think it was the ball, and the contact was a light brush of his chin that lasted less than a half second.  Total garbage call.

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2016, 09:23:01 PM »
Slow motion made it look different than it was. At full speed you see him reacting to the loose ball going between his legs.

This was a horsecrap call.
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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2016, 09:24:48 PM »
It looked to me that Henry was trying to corral the ball he was holding between his claves and zierden's ugly face got in the way.  He wasn't moving in a manner that suggested hes was doing anything else.
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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2016, 09:28:03 PM »
Yeah, it didnt help that Zierden turned in an oscar winning performance with that flop when Henry caressed his face.

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2016, 09:32:34 PM »
Yeah, it didnt help that Zierden turned in an oscar winning performance with that flop when Henry caressed his face.

And this is after Zeirden clearly kneed Johnson in the face when he went down earlier in half. Looked intentional but, yea, call Ellenson for stroking his face. Oh the humanity!!

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2016, 09:33:17 PM »
It looked to me that Henry was trying to corral the ball he was holding between his claves and zierden's ugly face got in the way.  He wasn't moving in a manner that suggested hes was doing anything else.
And, that's what he kept telling the refs.  It was simply incidental contact.

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2016, 09:34:03 PM »
Breading called Buzz for a T for slipping on the bench at Nova.  He also drew Buzz's ire for illegally overturning a floor ref's call in the BET from the scorer's table. Broeker had to separate them.  He has been on Wojo's (and Broeker's ass since then).  He should be unemployed. 

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2016, 09:40:47 PM »
No, it was not the right call.  The guy dove at Henry's legs.  It was clear that Henry thought the ball was the kids face.  There was no eye contact made to show he didn't think it was the ball, and the contact was a light brush of his chin that lasted less than a half second.  Total garbage call.

It doesn't matter what he thought or where the guy was.  The rule is automatic technical if contact to the head after the dead ball. 

The play was dead.  Henry contacted the players head.  Automatic technical.

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2016, 09:56:35 PM »
It doesn't matter what he thought or where the guy was.  The rule is automatic technical if contact to the head after the dead ball. 

The play was dead.  Henry contacted the players head.  Automatic technical.

If that's all it takes and there is no wiggle room, then it's a bad rule.

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2016, 09:58:17 PM »
If that's all it takes and there is no wiggle room, then it's a bad rule.

College officiating: Where common sense goes to die.

John Cahill needs to be out of a job. The refs in this league are laughably bad.

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2016, 10:03:00 PM »
Agreed, that was a horrible, don't care what the rules say.  Zeirden falls into HE from the backside and is called for a foul, as HE is trying to get out of the tie up, he reaches behind his back to grab the ball stuck between his legs and Zeirden's face is there (because again Zeirden fell INTO Henry), and that's two free throws and the ball for Creighton???  Absolute nonsense.

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2016, 10:21:51 PM »
It doesn't matter what he thought or where the guy was.  The rule is automatic technical if contact to the head after the dead ball. 

The play was dead.  Henry contacted the players head.  Automatic technical.

If that's the case then let's start teaching our guys how to get their heads touched during dead balls, just walk into opponent's hands. Cannot possibly be the real rule, ref judgement always plays a role, and that was extremely poor judgement by the refs. Henry's frustration after the call showed exactly what happen, he did nothing and got called for a FLAGRANT foul, just ridiculous.

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2016, 10:45:52 PM »
I'm really thinking people are watching this with MU glasses on.  I really thought it was obvious that HE knew he was pushing the kids face. 

Seeing it live I thought. He's going to get T'd up. 

Was a very poor decision on his part. 

And it is the rule, no contact to the head of a player during dead balls.  Gardner got a similar call against him last year.

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Re: flagrant one?
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2016, 10:54:40 PM »
I would agree that it was a bad call and came at a tough time for MU. Although, after watching a lot of basketball in the last few years I don't feel that call was inconsistent with other similar plays. Seems like the refs like that flagrant call. Think the slow motion makes it look worse.

 

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