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Author Topic: New Recruiting Rule  (Read 2675 times)

ZMovieman

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New Recruiting Rule
« on: March 24, 2010, 07:44:11 PM »
SI.com has an article about foreign players being granted immediate eligibility if they play for professional teams where some got paid (but they didn't). I don't know much about the recruiting rules, but would this have helped Mbao or impact any potential prospects we're interested in?

http://tourney.si.com/2010/03/24/new-rule-could-clear-way-for-kanter/?eref=sihp

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Re: New Recruiting Rule
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2010, 08:28:46 PM »
Yes Mbao was suspended for 2 games for those reasons.

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Re: New Recruiting Rule
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2010, 08:42:10 PM »
SI.com has an article about foreign players being granted immediate eligibility if they play for professional teams where some got paid (but they didn't). I don't know much about the recruiting rules, but would this have helped Mbao or impact any potential prospects we're interested in?

http://tourney.si.com/2010/03/24/new-rule-could-clear-way-for-kanter/?eref=sihp

While Mbao would have had eligibility for the two games he missed, I doubt that it would have made much of a difference--either for MU in those games or for Mbao's development.

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Re: New Recruiting Rule
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2010, 08:48:21 PM »
Interesting timing on this one...Kentucky just got a commitment from Enes Kanter, a Eurpoean who would probably not be eligible to play an NCAA game next year under the old rules. If this new rule passes completely, Kanter has a much better shot at becoming eligible.  Gotta love Cal and Worldwide Wes!

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Re: New Recruiting Rule
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2010, 09:16:22 PM »
Interesting timing on this one...Kentucky just got a commitment from Enes Kanter, a Eurpoean who would probably not be eligible to play an NCAA game next year under the old rules. If this new rule passes completely, Kanter has a much better shot at becoming eligible.  Gotta love Cal and Worldwide Wes!

I believe this is the prospect that some said would likely never gain eligibility. Hmmmmm..........what will happen?

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Re: New Recruiting Rule
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2010, 09:41:43 PM »
I believe this is the prospect that some said would likely never gain eligibility. Hmmmmm..........what will happen?

He was a stud in Europe, and turned down several multi-million dollar deals and opted instead to come to the US and play in college and then go pro.  This pissed alot of people off.  His Turkish team sabatoged his chances at ever becoming eligible by paying other players...knowing that the NCAA didnt allow it.  Some even believe that when the NCAA requests documents from his time in Turkey, those in charge  over there will make it very difficult to acquire them.

When he finally got to the US, he started at Mountain State Academy, then went to Findlay Prep for a little bit before settling at Stoneridge Prep.  Yep...3 prep schoools in about 5 months...the NCAA will LOVE that.

Under the new rule, things will be "easier" for him, but still pretty difficult. Hey...if anyone can get it done, Coach Cal and Worldwide Wes can!

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Re: New Recruiting Rule
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2010, 09:53:40 PM »
Mbao wa problably not strong enough to be effective this year anyways. However, under the old rule he could not practice with the team before being cleared either. The two game suspension did not matter nearly as much as not being able to practice with the team.

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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2010, 09:49:21 AM »
Calipari and WWW have nothing to do with this.  This is a dumb rule that has been being reviewed and rewritten for a while now. 

The real problem is in Eurpoe they do not have HS or college sports that act as farm teams for professional sports.  There club systems are more similar to the way baseball works in America.  But it goes even deeper, ie in the US baseball has high schools at the intiall level.  In Europe prospective Soccer and basketball players are "signed" at a very early age typically 13-15 and then play for the club.  The club might have 10 different teams similar to rookie ball thru AAA to the majors for baseball.    The lowest rung teams will be the youngsters and they will play against other clubs in that division, but are coached and trained by club people learning and controlling what they are taught.  Similar to baseball as the players get older and better they work their way up with the hopes of making the top division.  The vast majority of these players especially at the younger and lower levels are amateurs and dont get paid at all.  They are simply prospects that the clubs work with and train and provide an avenue with hopes that they become pro caliber players at some point.

Very similar to baseball before the draft everyone is a free a agent and they have scouts in every nook and cranny in every gym and soccer field looking for talented young kids. 

What some Eurpoean teams have done is to take a amatuer and had him start playing on one of the higher teams say maybe  the second or third team the equivalent of the AAA team or in some cases have had them play all the  way up with the first team.  In these cases these teams consist of professionals.  According to the NCAA if you play with Pros even tho you are not paid yourself you are a pro.  In most cases these kids are playing with the pros becuase they are very good and they want to get them experience and playing time with the top players.  In other cases they are doing it becuase they know it makes it more difficult for the kids to go play in the NCAA.  I beleive this is very rare that they do it to sabotage a kid.  Obviously most kids stay within the club and they are simply bringing the kids along in a natural progression.  Obviously these clubs know kids like Tony Parker or Ricky Rubio may leave but to say they sabotage kids by moving them up the ranks is a reaction of not knowing the system. The previous poster assumes that is why Kantners team did that, I dont know.

The rule goes beyond that though.  Some may recall the rule made all foreign players inelligible.  Some will recall Junior was ineleigible becuase he was from Canada and could not be on campus or work out with the team until everything went thru the clearinghouse.  While all the other fresman were on campus and attending class Junior was not.  Did that contribute to his injury? That part of the rule needed fixed.  they should be like american players assumed to be eligible until the clearing house passes them or not.     



 

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