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Title: WKU
Post by: tower912 on March 17, 2024, 06:04:57 PM
9 players average double digit minutes.   McHenry, their leading scorer and assist man, is 6'2 and 160.   If healthy, I can guess who Stevie guards.
A bid stealer.  .500 in CUSA.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 17, 2024, 06:13:23 PM
Iz Jim McDaniels still playin four WKU, hey?
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: nyg on March 17, 2024, 06:15:10 PM
Great.

Here's their schedule, just click and review.  I was sort of shocked.  They did not play one single game against a power conference, not one.  No Big East, Big 10, Big 12, ACC, AAC, SEC, and on and on.  And they had 11 losses to other teams, within their conference, not any power conference losses. 

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/98

Jim McDaniels was a bad man on the court.....

Looks like they played Whicita St., my bad and they lost. 
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 17, 2024, 06:26:48 PM
Great.

Here's their schedule, just click and review.  I was sort of shocked.  They did not play one single game against a power conference, not one.  No Big East, Big 10, Big 12, ACC, AAC, SEC, and on and on.  And they had 11 losses to other teams, within their conference, not any power conference losses. 

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/98

Jim McDaniels was a bad man on the court.....

Looks like they played Whicita St., my bad and they lost.

Pretty sure they expected a rebuild year

Title: Re: WKU
Post by: DoctorV on March 17, 2024, 06:29:34 PM
#1 in the country in tempo per KenPom.

Highest KenPom 15 seed, higher than two 14s as well.

They avg 80 per game. They run, rebound, and score against weaker competition. Don’t shoot great from 3 or the line, and turn it over a lot.

Time to do a deeper dive
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 17, 2024, 06:29:50 PM
Yeah first year head coach. Someone said it earlier, but this would be the worst loss in Marquette tournament history.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 17, 2024, 06:37:04 PM
#1 in the country in tempo per KenPom.

Highest KenPom 15 seed, higher than two 14s as well.

They avg 80 per game. They run, rebound, and score against weaker competition. Don’t shoot great from 3 or the line, and turn it over a lot.

Time to do a deeper dive

Marquette should feast on turnovers in this game.  WKU doesn’t do anything great that makes you concerned.

They lost 4 straight to close the season and missed the 1 and 2 seeds in the tournament due to upsets.

Line is 15 but think Marquette doubles that
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: nyg on March 17, 2024, 06:39:06 PM
Yeah first year head coach. Someone said it earlier, but this would be the worst loss in Marquette tournament history.

I did and I’ll stick to it.  Only eleven 2 seeds have lost to a 15 in NCAAT history and MU will not be number twelve.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Skatastrophy on March 17, 2024, 06:44:29 PM
I did and I’ll stick to it.  Only eleven 2 seeds have lost to a 15 in NCAAT history and MU will not be number twelve.

Not with that attitude we won't
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: DoctorV on March 17, 2024, 06:50:06 PM
Marquette should feast on turnovers in this game.  WKU doesn’t do anything great that makes you concerned.

They lost 4 straight to close the season and missed the 1 and 2 seeds in the tournament due to upsets.

Line is 15 but think Marquette doubles that

Yup. They obviously aren’t a great team, so I expect Marquette to be in good shape.

Not very big and chuck up a ton of shots via that tempo.

The #1 tempo is the thing that jumps out at me. They will try to make it helter skelter, but Marquettes defense plays into that.

Steal, runaway dunk should be a big theme
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Jay Bee on March 17, 2024, 06:54:14 PM
I’m seeing a few Chase Ross highlights in this one
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 17, 2024, 06:54:44 PM
Yep. I would much rather play an up tempo team than a disciplined team like Vermont last year.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 17, 2024, 07:02:28 PM
So Ty sits out another one?
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 17, 2024, 07:03:18 PM
Nope. Its showtime, aina?
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: dgies9156 on March 17, 2024, 07:08:16 PM
Iz Jim McDaniels still playin four WKU, hey?

Bad knees when WKU was really good.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 17, 2024, 11:37:54 PM
Welcome WKU fans.  You may have some problems registering with gmail addresses (it's an intermittent failure due to the idiots that run the place).  However, if gmail fails, most other email addresses work.

But...you better have thick skin here!
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Newsdreams on March 17, 2024, 11:47:49 PM
Welcome WKU fans.  You may have some problems registering with gmail addresses (it's an intermittent failure due to the idiots that run the place).  However, if gmail fails, most other email addresses work.

But...you better have thick skin here!
So, not dentists.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: PointWarrior on March 17, 2024, 11:49:14 PM
Why are we even discussing WKU, we should be discussing second, third, and fourth round potential opponents?
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Newsdreams on March 17, 2024, 11:52:42 PM
Why are we even discussing WKU, we should be discussing second, third, and fourth round potential opponents?
You just want to jinx MU
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 17, 2024, 11:58:15 PM
So, not dentists.

WKU only has dental hygiene.  Unless we get a hygienist that hooked up with a dentist, I think we're safe.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: CountryRoads on March 18, 2024, 12:15:53 AM
Found a YouTube channel that looks to have a good amount of their full games posted:

https://m.youtube.com/@HilltopperVault/videos

(Can someone start a channel like this for MU lol?)
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 18, 2024, 12:21:31 AM
Found a YouTube channel that looks to have a good amount of their full games posted:

https://m.youtube.com/@HilltopperVault/videos

(Can someone start a channel like this for MU lol?)

https://www.youtube.com/@thedraftmatic3945/search?query=marquette
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: willie warrior on March 18, 2024, 03:54:51 AM
Why are we even discussing WKU, we should be discussing second, third, and fourth round potential opponents?
And resting Kolek and Stevie for fear of an aggravation.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 18, 2024, 04:25:07 AM
And resting Kolek and Stevie for fear of an aggravation.

The more you say this, the funnier it gets.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: wisblue on March 18, 2024, 05:18:29 AM
9 players average double digit minutes.   McHenry, their leading scorer and assist man, is 6'2 and 160.   If healthy, I can guess who Stevie guards.
A bid stealer.  .500 in CUSA.

Not a bid stealer.

CUSA was only going to get one bid.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2024, 05:23:46 AM
Yes.   I should have said winner of the conference tourney after the top 2 seeds were upset by other teams.   
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Skatastrophy on March 18, 2024, 07:20:50 AM
WVU's mascot is intimidating like Bluteaux was
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: 1SE on March 18, 2024, 07:56:05 AM
WVU's mascot is intimidating like Bluteaux was

Big Red is the love spawn of Clifford and Grimace.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 18, 2024, 09:00:22 AM
WKU didn't lose a game by more thann10 points all season.

They are actually good. Leading scorer is from Milwaukee too. Cool little fact.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 18, 2024, 09:09:58 AM
WKU didn't lose a game by more thann10 points all season.

They are actually good. Leading scorer is from Milwaukee too. Cool little fact.

They have a profile of a decent buy game. If that's "actually good," than fine.

But Marquette should handle them easy.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2024, 09:25:18 AM
Cool little fact.  They lost their last four regular season games to drop to .500 and third place in their conference.  The top two teams got upset by other teams.   Their biggest OOC opponent was Wichita State, who they lost to.
   Yes, they get up and down the floor and their metrics aren't atrocious.  MU will beat them.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 18, 2024, 09:59:01 AM
Game time 2/1 pm ET/CT, TBS on Friday.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: romey on March 18, 2024, 10:09:17 AM
Anyone know where their Milwaukee guy (Don McHenry) played HS ball?  On the roster the bio only shows MKE as his birthplace, he played 1 year at Hawaii Hilo and one year at WKU, no HS info.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Pakuni on March 18, 2024, 10:14:09 AM
WKU didn't lose a game by more thann10 points all season.

They are actually good. Leading scorer is from Milwaukee too. Cool little fact.

Those losses have been to (with KenPom ranking):

Wichita State (155)
Canisius (274)
UNC-Asheville (164)
Sam Houston State twice (142)
New Mexico State (290)
Texas-El Paso (179)
Middle Tennessee State (282)
Louisiana Tech (95)
Florida International (284)
Liberty (138)

They played zero Quad 1 games all year and only one Quad 2 game.
Suffice to say, they haven't seen an opponent like Marquette.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: dgies9156 on March 18, 2024, 10:23:37 AM
Yeah first year head coach. Someone said it earlier, but this would be the worst loss in Marquette tournament history.

Not even close.

I've said this before: The worst loss in Marquette Basketball history will forever be the Miami of Ohio loss in 1978. Period. Unless we lose to a 16 seed as defending national champions, nothing comes close to that loss. It was the most debilitating loss in Marquette history and effectively ended our days as one of the nation's top college basketball programs.

If Miami of Ohio in 1978 taught us anything, it's that you NEVER, EVER, EVER take an opponent for granted. You don't worry about "down the road" and Florida, Duke or Kentucky until you beat the Hilltoppers. You go for the kill as soon as you can and hope the margin is so big John Lucas gets 10 points!

Title: Re: WKU
Post by: MU82 on March 18, 2024, 10:28:18 AM
The more you say this, the funnier it gets.

Not sure if he got that clever line from Gold Brick, Pile-of-Dung Stevie or Wojo-Dukiet-Nagle-Lipe.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Pakuni on March 18, 2024, 10:30:58 AM
Not even close.

I've said this before: The worst loss in Marquette Basketball history will forever be the Miami of Ohio loss in 1978. Period. Unless we lose to a 16 seed as defending national champions, nothing comes close to that loss. It was the most debilitating loss in Marquette history and effectively ended our days as one of the nation's top college basketball programs.

If Miami of Ohio in 1978 taught us anything, it's that you NEVER, EVER, EVER take an opponent for granted. You don't worry about "down the road" and Florida, Duke or Kentucky until you beat the Hilltoppers. You go for the kill as soon as you can and hope the margin is so big John Lucas gets 10 points!

Miami of Ohio in 1978 was a top 20 team.
Western Kentucky in 2024 isn't a top 120 team.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 18, 2024, 10:31:43 AM
https://104thescore.com/2024/03/17/video-coach-steve-lutz-don-mchenry-talk-marquette-draw-in-ncaa-tournament/
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 18, 2024, 10:38:17 AM
They have a profile of a decent buy game. If that's "actually good," than fine.

But Marquette should handle them easy.

Agreed. They just had an impressive season. Didn't play a whole lot of competition though.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2024, 10:47:55 AM
I worried slightly about Vermont a year ago.  I worry less about WKU.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 18, 2024, 10:53:21 AM
Cool little fact.  They lost their last four regular season games to drop to .500 and third place in their conference.  The top two teams got upset by other teams.   Their biggest OOC opponent was Wichita State, who they lost to.
   Yes, they get up and down the floor and their metrics aren't atrocious.  MU will beat them.

I am sure all the Purdue fans thought the same thing about Fairleigh Dickinson.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: dgies9156 on March 18, 2024, 10:56:58 AM
Miami of Ohio in 1978 was a top 20 team.
Western Kentucky in 2024 isn't a top 120 team.

Defending National Champion means something! Defending National Champions who returned four of their five starters do not lose to the Miamis of Ohio.

Period. Statistics don't matter in cases like this!

I'm guessing you may not have been born yet, but that loss was more traumatic than anything else that happened in the last 60 years or so. The closest was a mid-1980s North Carolina game in Milwaukee where Coach Majerus was trying to re-assert the program. We led most of the game but lost in the last few minutes. Or the March 1969 game against Purdue (and Rick Mount), where we were one free throw away from the Final Four (who the hell says free throws don't matter?).

We all have high hopes for this team. I'm truly expecting wonderful things this year. But the trauma associated with the Miami of Ohio loss set the program back for decades. The lesson is: this was so bad, it can never happen again! I don't expect it will and we all will be massively disappointed if, in the unlikely event we lose. But it won't be anything like the Miami of Ohio loss. That loss still stings 45 years later.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2024, 10:57:38 AM
I am sure all the Purdue fans thought the same thing about Fairleigh Dickinson.
Yes, and?
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 18, 2024, 11:03:06 AM
Kam was not his usually goofy self in this interview. He was 100% business. Hopefully that means he is locked in! Says he is incredibly motivated.

https://youtu.be/R1LDTQtAUMQ?si=8LmAV-cx_wn74SPq
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 18, 2024, 11:03:44 AM
Yes, and?

Strange thing do happen during the tournament and as dgies said never underestimate your opponent.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2024, 11:05:00 AM
I am not underestimating WKU.  I do not fear them.   
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 18, 2024, 11:06:44 AM
And what if Scoopers are underestimating an opponent?
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 18, 2024, 11:09:32 AM
And what if Scoopers are underestimating an opponent?

I'm worried I'm underestimating WKU and won't bring all my EGBs on Friday.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Pakuni on March 18, 2024, 11:09:48 AM
Yes, and?

Purdue lost because their fans were looking past FDU.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Viper on March 18, 2024, 11:10:49 AM
Miami of Ohio in 1978 was a top 20 team.
Western Kentucky in 2024 isn't a top 120 team.
but in ‘78 Marquette was defending national champs and a 1-seed. Butch Lee was a 1st team All American. A loss on Friday would not equal the loss in ‘78.Not even close.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: brewcity77 on March 18, 2024, 11:11:03 AM
In any normal year, this Western Kentucky team would more likely be a 16-seed, but thanks to lower placed teams winning a ton of leagues (ASUN, Big South, Big Sky) we end up with a team that is 16-seed quality despite being a 2-seed. They have a solid (99th nationally) pick and roll defense but their offense is pretty bad and the turn it over a lot. They do have a number of high-major down-transfers in Rodney Howard (Georgia Tech), Brandon Newman (Purdue), Dontaie Allen (Kentucky), and Khristian Lander (Indiana) so the talent is there.

My guess is it will be closer than we want it to be, but ultimately I think we're just a better team and that will be enough to get the win on Friday.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Goose on March 18, 2024, 11:13:30 AM
Kam seems like a different person on the court and on the bench over the past several weeks. He seems extremely dialed in and showing some real leadership. As well as he has played, I am more impressed with the dialed in personality.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 18, 2024, 11:19:34 AM
So I think you aren't understanding my point.

Losing in '78 may have been more disappointing. But I am talking about from a sheer, objective point of view. Losing to WKU would be the biggest Marquette loss in its NCAA tournament's history.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: NickelDimer on March 18, 2024, 11:23:28 AM
Purdue lost because their fans were looking past FDU.
I heard there was a thread on puscoop.com about who they wanted in the second round before they even played their first
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2024, 11:24:32 AM
And one that mocked Virginia for losing to UMBC. 
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: MU82 on March 18, 2024, 11:50:08 AM
I heard there was a thread on puscoop.com about who they wanted in the second round before they even played their first

That's exactly why we lost to Vermont last year.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Elonsmusk on March 18, 2024, 11:53:32 AM
Kam seems like a different person on the court and on the bench over the past several weeks. He seems extremely dialed in and showing some real leadership. As well as he has played, I am more impressed with the dialed in personality.

I agree Goose, and I feel it is being overlooked, though Paint Touches did a story on his D-1 best offensive output since Feb 3.  His ascension has this team on the rise.  If Tyler comes back and can play to form, combined with how Kam has taken things up several notches, our team is elite offensively.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: StillAWarrior on March 18, 2024, 11:54:55 AM
Kam was not his usually goofy self in this interview. He was 100% business. Hopefully that means he is locked in! Says he is incredibly motivated.

https://youtu.be/R1LDTQtAUMQ?si=8LmAV-cx_wn74SPq

My favorite bit from Kam:

Q: "How do you get yourself prepared...[unintelligible -- maybe 'get your mind prepared']?"
A: "I feel like with us...if that Michigan State game last year wasn't enough...I don't know if this is for you."
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Pakuni on March 18, 2024, 11:55:08 AM
So I think you aren't understanding my point.

Losing in '78 may have been more disappointing. But I am talking about from a sheer, objective point of view. Losing to WKU would be the biggest Marquette loss in its NCAA tournament's history.

Are they misunderstanding, or are they just part of the crowd that believes everything was bigger and better in the 70s, including the losses?
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Jay Bee on March 18, 2024, 11:55:14 AM
Anyone know where their Milwaukee guy (Don McHenry) played HS ball?  On the roster the bio only shows MKE as his birthplace, he played 1 year at Hawaii Hilo and one year at WKU, no HS info.

MKE acad of science

Also was at Indian Hills cc, shot out to Buycks

I think phenom Univ travel
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 18, 2024, 12:33:03 PM
Fun thread on the WKU message board: https://247sports.com/college/western-kentucky/board/104580/Contents/marquette-scouting-report-228880032/?page=1

"Why do people find us beating them as an embarrassing loss, we're not some FDU program, we are just as storied as Marquette, we just constantly get crapped on"

"they have some questions with health and depth and because of that WKU is a NIGHTMARE matchup as a red-hot defensive team with pace and depth as its main weapon"
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Pakuni on March 18, 2024, 12:36:27 PM
Fun thread at the WKU message board: https://247sports.com/college/western-kentucky/board/104580/Contents/marquette-scouting-report-228880032/?page=1

"Why do people find us beating them as an embarrassing loss, we're not some FDU program, we are just as storied as Marquette, we just constantly get crapped on"

they have some questions with health and depth and because of that WKU is a NIGHTMARE matchup as a red-hot defensive team with pace and depth as its main weapon

"Just as storied as Marquette."
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 18, 2024, 12:37:29 PM
Popped over to that WKU forum's thread so just writing this for them: as a whole WKU has a great tradition that's worthy of being respected but not every year is equal. Bottom line is this is a 15 seed team with a soft schedule and glaring losses, hardly one of their best teams in their respectable history, sort of like how Murray State isn't Ja Morant or Isaiah Canaan every year. While MU losing to the program WKU isn't the most horrific thing in history, this MU team losing to this WKU team would be the worst loss in our team's NCAA history. Worse than if we had lost to a respectable Vermont last year as they actually had a great season all year not a Cinderella conference tournament run. 

Also our old hilltopper mascot is better than yours.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 18, 2024, 12:38:47 PM
"Just as storied as Marquette."

I mean it's a fantastic mid major tradition can't argue that but that's definitely a delusional statement.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 18, 2024, 12:39:20 PM
"Just as storied as Marquette."

Hey they reached the Final Four in 1971... and had it vacated.

And another Elite Eight in 1940!
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 18, 2024, 12:40:29 PM
While MU losing to the program WKU isn't the most horrific thing in history, this MU team losing to this WKU team would be the worst loss in our team's NCAA history.

Well put.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Dickthedribbler on March 18, 2024, 12:41:11 PM
If I may channel my inner 6th grader, the WKU home venue is Diddle Arena. For those who didn't know.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: CountryRoads on March 18, 2024, 12:41:14 PM
I loved when they beat the badgers in 2018. Think part of the deal was that the football program was to be a sacrificial lamb and had to get slaughtered in Madison in order for them to get a home basketball game against Bucky.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: muwarrior97 on March 18, 2024, 12:53:31 PM
MKE acad of science

Also was at Indian Hills cc, shot out to Buycks

I think phenom Univ travel

Might be a paywall article BUT you should be paying for JSONLINE just for the Ben Steele content alone, I live in Colorado and it is worth the money for the MU content

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/columnists/mark-stewart/2021/02/24/stewart-academy-science-senior-makes-most-chance-shine/4555886001/
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: dgies9156 on March 18, 2024, 12:56:38 PM
So I think you aren't understanding my point.

Losing in '78 may have been more disappointing. But I am talking about from a sheer, objective point of view. Losing to WKU would be the biggest Marquette loss in its NCAA tournament's history.

We've lost a lot of games in the NCAAs that were far bigger than a first round game against a 15 seed.

Do you remember Marquette in the 1980s? Hint: I try not to! The 1980s started on that cold March day in 1978 with Miami of Ohio!
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: PointWarrior on March 18, 2024, 12:57:54 PM
WKU didn't lose a game by more thann10 points all season.

They are actually good. Leading scorer is from Milwaukee too. Cool little fact.

Radford level of good?
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: PointWarrior on March 18, 2024, 12:59:42 PM
And what if Scoopers are underestimating an opponent?

Going to ruin the tourney vibe for some sensitive scoopers. 
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 18, 2024, 01:04:34 PM
Radford level of good?

Maybe.

They could probably keep it within 8-15 points if they play well.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 18, 2024, 01:06:08 PM
If I may channel my inner 6th grader, the WKU home venue is Diddle Arena. For those who didn't know.

Will you change your Scoop nom de plume to "Dickthediddler" for the game?
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Tha Hound on March 18, 2024, 01:09:52 PM
Fun thread on the WKU message board: https://247sports.com/college/western-kentucky/board/104580/Contents/marquette-scouting-report-228880032/?page=1

"Why do people find us beating them as an embarrassing loss, we're not some FDU program, we are just as storied as Marquette, we just constantly get crapped on"

"they have some questions with health and depth and because of that WKU is a NIGHTMARE matchup as a red-hot defensive team with pace and depth as its main weapon"

lmfao
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: tower912 on March 18, 2024, 01:12:06 PM
I like that thread.  Proud of their team, not tearing it down.  Ideas about how to win the game.   Respectful, not intimidated.    Not an eeyore in the bunch.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 18, 2024, 01:31:43 PM
Not an eeyore in the bunch.

Things MU fans could only wish for
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: nyg on March 18, 2024, 01:44:57 PM
We've lost a lot of games in the NCAAs that were far bigger than a first round game against a 15 seed.

Do you remember Marquette in the 1980s? Hint: I try not to! The 1980s started on that cold March day in 1978 with Miami of Ohio!

We get it dgies, you have brought that loss up numerous times over the years.  It was a terrible, terrible loss, Miami of Ohio ended being ranked #18 in the country at end of season after beating MU, but times have changed. In 1978, there were only 32 teams into the NCAAT, not the current 68.  I don't know if WKU would be ranked as a top 100 team this year.

Of course there have been a lot "bigger" games in the NCAAT, like losing to Indiana as number 2 and IU going undefeated.  Many other "big" ones over the years. This game is a #2 seed against a #15 seed from an inferior conference with absolutely zero quality wins and numerous terrible losses.  That's why the perception of a loss to WKU would be perceived as the worst.  But I respect your opinion because it was a bad loss back then. As far as MU losing, don't see it happening though, MU gonna kick some butt.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Its DJOver on March 18, 2024, 01:47:59 PM
If the Boomer wants to yell at the clouds and lament about how the good ole days have been passed by, let him.  The sport has changed so much that you can't compare era's, especially something as subjective as "worst loss".
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: PointWarrior on March 18, 2024, 01:56:40 PM
Maybe.

They could probably keep it within 8-15 points if they play well.


We should wished for Vermont instead of WKU. 
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 18, 2024, 02:00:04 PM
Field of 68 guys just now said that Marquette is the only 2 seed that has a chance to lose to a 15. Said that WKU scares them a bit, but ultimately think Marquette will pull out a win.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 18, 2024, 02:03:39 PM
Field of 68 guys just now said that Marquette is the only 2 seed that has a chance to lose to a 15. Said that WKU scares them a bit, but ultimately think Marquette will pull out a win.

No exaggeration, Goodman and Childress are acting like if we make it to sweet 16 Vs Kentucky we might as well not even show up.

I missed the part where that team randomly became better than the LeBron/Wade Heat.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 18, 2024, 02:06:13 PM
No exaggeration, Goodman and Childress are acting like if we make it to sweet 16 Vs Kentucky we might as well not even show up.

I missed the part where that team randomly became better than the LeBron/Wade Heat.

That team plays basically no defense. Id differ to someone else who knows how their P & R "D" has been but I'd imagine Kolek and oso basically having the game of their life against the.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 18, 2024, 02:07:57 PM
That team plays basically no defense. Id differ to someone else who knows how their P & R "D" has been but I'd imagine Kolek and oso basically having the game of their life against the.

Yup. Dauster played contrarian and brought this up about how funny it could be watching Dillingham try to guard some of our schemes(he’s god awful defensively).

Childress kept saying he wanted to mute his mic. UK will be tough, but it’s wild some of the hype for them
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 18, 2024, 02:10:09 PM
Field of 68 guys just now said that Marquette is the only 2 seed that has a chance to lose to a 15. Said that WKU scares them a bit, but ultimately think Marquette will pull out a win.

(https://media.tenor.com/_1csi7wsdq4AAAAM/drugs-are-bad-excited.gif)
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 18, 2024, 02:12:53 PM
That team plays basically no defense. Id differ to someone else who knows how their P & R "D" has been but I'd imagine Kolek and oso basically having the game of their life against the.

They hit 3s well. We kinda like to give up open 3s. That said, rotations ahve been way better and we can play the Golden Bear lineup a bit to alleviate their height advantage. Defense is really, really bad tho.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: oldwarrior81 on March 18, 2024, 02:32:09 PM
MKE acad of science

Also was at Indian Hills cc, shot out to Buycks

I think phenom Univ travel

That's the newer high school on 20th and Kilbourn.

Mchenry averaged 38 points a game as a senior, making all state.  I saw a highlight clip of him from high school.
Looks like he weighed about 115 pounds.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: MuMark on March 18, 2024, 02:45:57 PM
Field of 68 guys just now said that Marquette is the only 2 seed that has a chance to lose to a 15. Said that WKU scares them a bit, but ultimately think Marquette will pull out a win.

Now let’s consider an unbiased source with a better track record

Pomeroy
Iowa State 16 point favorite 93% chance of winning
Arizona 20 point favorite and 96% chance of winning
Tennessee 19 point favorite and 96%
MU 15 point favorite and 91% chance of winning


Those field of 68 guys sure do like to stir it up over basically nothing……it’s the business model.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 18, 2024, 09:19:04 PM
Now let’s consider an unbiased source with a better track record

Pomeroy
Iowa State 16 point favorite 93% chance of winning
Arizona 20 point favorite and 96% chance of winning
Tennessee 19 point favorite and 96%
MU 15 point favorite and 91% chance of winning


Those field of 68 guys sure do like to stir it up over basically nothing……it’s the business model.

But they also picked Marquette to lose in the Elite Eight to Houston and weren’t confident in their pick of Houston either.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: MuggsyB on March 18, 2024, 09:26:49 PM
Yup. Dauster played contrarian and brought this up about how funny it could be watching Dillingham try to guard some of our schemes(he’s god awful defensively).

Childress kept saying he wanted to mute his mic. UK will be tough, but it’s wild some of the hype for them

One word:  Attack.  :)
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: dgies9156 on March 18, 2024, 10:00:10 PM
As far as MU losing, don't see it happening though, MU gonna kick some butt.

Agree with you wholeheartedly. As long as we don’t take anyone for granted, we will do very well.

We sometime forget, WKU hasn’t played anyone like Marquette this year. They know it, based on what their version of Scoop says!

F@@k ‘em!!!! Let’s get this one in the books!
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on March 18, 2024, 10:05:13 PM
Kam was not his usually goofy self in this interview. He was 100% business. Hopefully that means he is locked in! Says he is incredibly motivated.

https://youtu.be/R1LDTQtAUMQ?si=8LmAV-cx_wn74SPq

Are those warm-up jacket's for sale. I need one
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: PointWarrior on March 18, 2024, 10:25:21 PM
Agree with you wholeheartedly. As long as we don’t take anyone for granted, we will do very well.

We sometime forget, WKU hasn’t played anyone like Marquette this year. They know it, based on what their version of Scoop says!

F@@k ‘em!!!! Let’s get this one in the books!

They could take them for granted, not play Kolek, and still cover the spread...
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: DarkWarrior on March 18, 2024, 10:28:14 PM
I truly don't like the hyper-confidence being displayed here. Player sometimes rise to the moment and strange things happen. We need to stay focused on the prize, respect the competition and play like our lives depended upon it! As Shaka says "Play with violence!". No room for average or good enough!!!
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: PointWarrior on March 18, 2024, 10:36:46 PM
I truly don't like the hyper-confidence being displayed here. Player sometimes rise to the moment and strange things happen. We need to stay focused on the prize, respect the competition and play like our lives depended upon it! As Shaka says "Play with violence!". No room for average or good enough!!!


Have you seen this: https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/team-sheet?team=Western-Kentucky (https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/team-sheet?team=Western-Kentucky)



Title: Re: WKU
Post by: PointWarrior on March 19, 2024, 12:02:46 AM

Have you seen this: https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/team-sheet?team=Western-Kentucky (https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/team-sheet?team=Western-Kentucky)


and for the record, why is any one afraid of Florida:  https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/team-net-sheet?team=Florida

one good win against Tennessee?   3-14 in quad 1 & 2  and missing a player  Woof....

Title: Re: WKU
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 19, 2024, 04:00:58 AM
I truly don't like the hyper-confidence being displayed here. Player sometimes rise to the moment and strange things happen. We need to stay focused on the prize, respect the competition and play like our lives depended upon it! As Shaka says "Play with violence!". No room for average or good enough!!!

You realize we aren’t the players right?
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 19, 2024, 06:34:43 AM
Are those warm-up jacket's for sale. I need one

I thought the same, they are slick
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: dgies9156 on March 19, 2024, 06:39:23 AM
They could take them for granted, not play Kolek, and still cover the spread...

Or they could get their ass kicked because the Hilltoppers had the game of their lives.

You never take anyone for granted. You go for the kill as soon as and as hard as you can with everything you have. I’m sure that’s what Coach Shaka plans!
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Pakuni on March 19, 2024, 07:11:37 AM
I truly don't like the hyper-confidence being displayed here. Player sometimes rise to the moment and strange things happen. We need to stay focused on the prize, respect the competition and play like our lives depended upon it! As Shaka says "Play with violence!". No room for average or good enough!!!

Do you think the hyper-confidence being displayed here has any effect on the game?
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: mileskishnish72 on March 19, 2024, 07:33:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/@thedraftmatic3945/search?query=marquette
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Man, thanks, Rocky. Already bookmarked it. Really appreciate your posting it - the "idiots that run the place" should have put it on earlier.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: MU82 on March 19, 2024, 07:37:08 AM
Do you think the hyper-confidence being displayed here has any effect on the game?

Can't believe you'd even ask that after similar hyper-confidence being displayed here caused Marquette to lose to Vermont last year.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on March 19, 2024, 07:46:34 AM
Just keep focused and we are good. And always remember WWRMD (What would Rick Majerus do) and we will cruise to a victory.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: HowardsWorld on March 19, 2024, 07:50:45 AM
I don't expect this game to even be competitive. The line is 15 but I would imagine in the second half that we will be up by 20-25 points and our reserves will get time which will be the game back to the original betting line of 14.5
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: tower912 on March 19, 2024, 07:51:16 AM
Lonely stress eat at Cousins?
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Pakuni on March 19, 2024, 07:52:56 AM
Just keep focused and we are good. And always remember WWRMD (What would Rick Majerus do) and we will cruise to a victory.

My wife isn't going to like that I've ruined a towel, but if that's what it takes ...
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 19, 2024, 07:57:23 AM
My wife isn't going to like that I've ruined a towel, but if that's what it takes ...
;D

Title: Re: WKU
Post by: MUEng92 on March 19, 2024, 12:11:41 PM
Do you think the hyper-confidence being displayed here has any effect on the game?
No kidding, it’s crazy that someone would think posters on a bulletin board expressing over confidence impacts the game.  It’s so obvious which chair I sit in down in my basement while watching the game has significantly more impact on the game outcome.  Phhh, the things people get hung up on around here.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: cheebs09 on March 19, 2024, 12:20:36 PM
Heaven help any opposing player that makes their way to the SuperBar.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 19, 2024, 04:38:47 PM
Well, on Big East Bar room pod, Collin Gillepsie has us cutting down the nets over Uconn.

As you can see hes not exactly the most unbiased guy but he does seem to have watched a lot of us down the stretch. Gave stevie a ton of love. And said we gave off the vibe of a team the last couple weeks thats fully dialed on a tournament run
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: willie warrior on March 19, 2024, 05:12:24 PM
They could take them for granted, not play Kolek, and still cover the spread...
please.
Yes. Since MU is such a favorite Kolek, Stevie and Oso should sit so they don't aggravate their injuries
That is of course the smart thing to do, much as they have been doing.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: MuMark on March 19, 2024, 05:37:10 PM

and for the record, why is any one afraid of Florida:  https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/team-net-sheet?team=Florida

one good win against Tennessee?   3-14 in quad 1 & 2  and missing a player  Woof....

Ah….that was 2023 season that you linked…….they are much better this season. Not saying anyone should be afraid but they are certainly capable of beating us if that’s who we end up playing. The injury does help.

https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/team-net-sheet?team=Florida
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 19, 2024, 05:53:59 PM
please.
Yes. Since MU is such a favorite Kolek, Stevie and Oso should sit so they don't aggravate their injuries
That is of course the smart thing to do, much as they have been doing.

Dung-

As a lifelong season ticket holder and big time donor, you should contact the university and find out why they didn’t play Kolek and why Shaka and his staff are so soft
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: PointWarrior on March 19, 2024, 09:57:59 PM
Ah….that was 2023 season that you linked…….they are much better this season. Not saying anyone should be afraid but they are certainly capable of beating us if that’s who we end up playing. The injury does help.

https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/team-net-sheet?team=Florida


Ugh, my bad.  Florida is much more formidable...

Title: Re: WKU
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 19, 2024, 10:44:33 PM
Tyler Hansbrough just now on the Field of 68 said that Western Kentucky will beat Marquette because Marquette isn't ready for that kind of pressure.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Tyler COLEk on March 19, 2024, 10:49:01 PM
"Psycho T" has been flirting with making that upset pick since Sunday. One of the more agitating personalities on Field of 68.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: PointWarrior on March 19, 2024, 10:57:23 PM
Tyler Hansbrough just now on the Field of 68 said that Western Kentucky will beat Marquette because Marquette isn't ready for that kind of pressure.

Yeah, the pressure of WKU versus playing the #1 seeded team 3 times in a season - Kolek and team won't know what hit them. 

If only Marquette had the athletes and skill of likes of Quad 4 teams like Canisius (#226) or FIU (#314) who managed to beat the WKU pressure.


Title: Re: WKU
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 19, 2024, 11:04:16 PM
"Psycho T" has been flirting with making that upset pick since Sunday. One of the more agitating personalities on Field of 68.

It'd be more agitating if it didn't look like he was using from Elon's ketamine supplier when he tried to put a sentence together.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: zcg2013 on March 20, 2024, 04:46:52 AM
"Psycho T" has been flirting with making that upset pick since Sunday. One of the more agitating personalities on Field of 68.

Psycho T has been anti-MU all year so I was not shocked one bit he said that.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 20, 2024, 06:00:46 AM
I've found over the years, it seems, many of the first round games underdogs cover.  hell, if we are 15.5 favs, i'll take a 14 point win any day. 

   maybe even get some of our hard working 3rd string guys some floor time
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 20, 2024, 06:36:28 AM
Tyler Hansbrough just now on the Field of 68 said that Western Kentucky will beat Marquette because Marquette isn't ready for that kind of pressure.

Controversial picks make headlines and foster engagement.

This is why Skip Bayless and Stephen A Smith have been employed for decades.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: tower912 on March 20, 2024, 06:40:57 AM
Tyler Hansbrough just now on the Field of 68 said that Western Kentucky will beat Marquette because Marquette isn't ready for that kind of pressure.

Well, if HE said it, why even play the game?
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 20, 2024, 06:52:06 AM
Tyler Hansbrough?

I miss Boers and Bernstein
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: 🏀 on March 20, 2024, 07:11:57 AM
Tyler Hansbrough?

I miss Boers and Bernstein

A corn fell from the tree.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 20, 2024, 07:14:03 AM
A corn fell from the tree.

He really didn’t rehabilitate the image of the North Carolina Athletic departments commitment to education
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 20, 2024, 10:09:22 AM
Maybe repeating some things that have already been said, but to get an idea of where WKU is at...

Leading Scorer is Don McHenry. Milwaukee kid that transferred in from the D2/JUCO ranks.

2nd leading scorer Brandon Newman is a transfer from Purdue. Had 7 points and 9 rebounds against Marquette last year in that matchup.

3rd leading scorer is Rodney Howard. The near 7 footer transferred in from Georgia Tech.

4th leading scorer Khristian Lander is a transfer from Indiana.

6th leading scorer and best shooter, Dontaie Allen transferred in from Kentucky.

High major transfers all over the place but only one that Marquette has played. Joplin mentioned that he played pickup games against McHenry growing up but never an actual game.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: MU82 on March 20, 2024, 10:10:42 AM
Tyler Hansbrough just now on the Field of 68 said that Western Kentucky will beat Marquette because Marquette isn't ready for that kind of pressure.

Picks like these have only upside to those who make them.

After Marquette rolls to victory, this pick either won't be mentioned again or Hansbrough will say something like, "I was wrong about that one, but here are the 3 I got right." And then it will never be mentioned again

But if lightning strikes and WKy somehow wins, Hansbrough will get to crow about his pick for days.

It's smart for these yahoos to pick a bunch of early upsets.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 20, 2024, 10:25:14 AM
Picks like these have only upside to those who make them.

After Marquette rolls to victory, this pick either won't be mentioned again or Hansbrough will say something like, "I was wrong about that one, but here are the 3 I got right." And then it will never be mentioned again

But if lightning strikes and WKy somehow wins, Hansbrough will get to crow about his pick for days.

It's smart for these yahoos to pick a bunch of early upsets.

Nailed it
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Badgerhater on March 20, 2024, 10:51:02 AM
WKU is clearly the best 15 seed ever and Marquette will be fortunate not to get blown out (teal)
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Newsdreams on March 20, 2024, 11:53:43 AM
The more you say this, the funnier it gets.
He is the dung dr.!
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 20, 2024, 10:40:02 PM
For those saying Marquette is the most likely 2 seed to be upset...they're correct.

1. We're facing the clear best 15 seed
2. They play a kind of gimmicky style of basketball with that high of a pace. I could see a team being caught off guard because they haven't seen something like it before.
3. Most importantly, we're banged up. No one knows what Tyler will be like when he returns. Stevie played one handed last game. Oso, Kam, and Chase nursing injuries.

Objectively, we're the best candidate for a 2 v 15 upset.

We're going to win anyway.
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: MuMark on March 20, 2024, 10:57:07 PM
Tyler Hansbrough just now on the Field of 68 said that Western Kentucky will beat Marquette because Marquette isn't ready for that kind of pressure.

The best team that WKU has played this season was Louisiana Tech…….they split 2 games with them…..in one game they turned it over 9 times…..in the other they turned ut over 12.

Louisiana Techs offense this season was 300 th  in turnover percentage.

I have not seen WK play so I’ll defer to Tyler but that “ pressure” didn’t seem to overwhelm LT…..who apparently was sort of easy to overwhelm this season.

Ps we take care of the ball better than they do and force more turnovers. As far as tempo……Pomeroy predicts it to be 75 possessions…….we have played 3 games this season at 75 or more possessions……..won all of them by over 20 points.

Title: Re: WKU
Post by: Newsdreams on March 21, 2024, 08:16:20 PM
Their open practice sucked, looked like a shoot around at Rec Center
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: MUEng92 on March 21, 2024, 08:22:51 PM
Their open practice sucked, looked like a shoot around at Rec Center
Meaning all they did is shoot or that they shot poorly?
Title: Re: WKU
Post by: MuMark on March 22, 2024, 05:10:17 PM
75 possessions…….MU wins by 18……..🤷‍♂️