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Title: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: avid1010 on December 13, 2013, 03:31:37 PM
WOW - From MU news brief...

Vice President and Director of Athletics Larry Williams to leave Marquette
Vice President and Director of Athletics Larry Williams informed Interim President Robert A. Wild, S.J., of his resignation today to pursue leadership opportunities outside of Marquette. Williams has served in his role overseeing the university's Department of Intercollegiate Athletics for the past two years and served on the University Leadership Council.

"We want to thank Larry for leading our student-athletes, coaches and athletic staff in our 16 competitive athletic programs for the past two years," Father Wild said. "We appreciate Larry's contributions to Marquette University, particularly for leading us into the newly reconfigured Big East and helping establish a unique partnership with Fox Sports. We wish him nothing but success in his future."

Bill Cords, who presided over Marquette's athletics programs for nearly 20 years (1987–2006), will serve as interim vice president and director of athletics until a replacement is named. During his tenure, Cords expanded sports offerings at the Division I level, added and improved athletic facilities including the Al McGuire Center and Valley Fields, oversaw athletic and academic achievement, and, most notably, engineered Marquette's move from independent status ultimately to the Big East Conference.

Cords will build on the momentum of an extremely successful inaugural fall season in the new Big East that saw the men's and women's soccer teams and women's volleyball team all win Big East and regular season tournament titles and each produce an Academic All-American.
Title: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: ZMovieman on December 13, 2013, 03:32:17 PM
Per university e-mail.

Quote
Vice President and Director of Athletics Larry Williams informed Interim President Robert A. Wild, S.J., of his resignation today to pursue leadership opportunities outside of Marquette. Williams has served in his role overseeing the university's Department of Intercollegiate Athletics for the past two years and served on the University Leadership Council.
Title: Larry Williams resigns
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 13, 2013, 03:32:21 PM
got an email about it just now
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: tower912 on December 13, 2013, 03:32:22 PM
Source?    If true, he must have been pretty tight with Pilarz.   
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: MU62 on December 13, 2013, 03:32:58 PM
I heard Bill Cordes is replacing him.  Is that possible?  
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 13, 2013, 03:33:17 PM
nm
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: Litehouse on December 13, 2013, 03:34:01 PM
Looks like they're getting the old band back together.
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: avid1010 on December 13, 2013, 03:36:40 PM
Looks like they're getting the old band back together.
cue the TC comments...

in all seriousness, i'm glad he's gone, and i hope buzz works with wild, cordes, and the board to solidify MU for the long run.  it's going to take some work to ensure this amount of turnover ends up being positive. 
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: wadesworld on December 13, 2013, 03:37:02 PM
Buzz's happy was messed with and the BOD realized who was really driving the bus.
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: Coleman on December 13, 2013, 03:37:11 PM
f*ck No Dick
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: MUfan12 on December 13, 2013, 03:37:57 PM
He did what was asked of him. When Pilarz was shown the door, this was inevitable.

I would really hope this is a short search. Broeker is ready.
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on December 13, 2013, 03:38:37 PM
I hope Cords makes Buzz play John Dawson.
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: tower912 on December 13, 2013, 03:38:44 PM
(A)  Looks like Buzz can recruit JUCO's again.   Good.   We need a 6'9 mauler for next year.
(B)  Seems like LWilliams and Pilarz must have been pretty tight and of one mind.   I wonder if the reason that LWilliams is leaving is the same reason Pilarz did.   Didn't feel up to the task of fundraising at a high level.
(C)  Larry, thank you for your service to MU.   Thank you for helping shepherd the programs through the transition to the new Big East.
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 13, 2013, 03:42:51 PM
We have ridded ourselves of the domer
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: willie warrior on December 13, 2013, 03:44:30 PM
f*ck No Dick
+1 gazilion
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: willie warrior on December 13, 2013, 03:46:02 PM
(A)  Looks like Buzz can recruit JUCO's again.   Good.   We need a 6'9 mauler for next year.
(B)  Seems like LWilliams and Pilarz must have been pretty tight and of one mind.   I wonder if the reason that LWilliams is leaving is the same reason Pilarz did.   Didn't feel up to the task of fundraising at a high level.
(C)  Larry, thank you for your service to MU.   Thank you for helping shepherd the programs through the transition to the new Big East.
Agree that we need a 6'9" mauler for next year, but when was the last time Buzz landed one of those from JUCO?
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: wadesworld on December 13, 2013, 03:46:07 PM
In all seriousness, is this really that good?  I know some people have said Buzz's relationship with Pilarz and Williams wasn't the greatest, but do we know that to be a fact?  Larry landed us in the best possible position given how football dominates everything, and our other sports that were once the doormats of their respective conferences (other than girl's soccer) are kicking ass.  We'll be fine, but Larry did some good things.
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: Gato78 on December 13, 2013, 03:47:58 PM
Broeker is the best qualified candidate in the country to run Marquette's Athletics Department.
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: swoopem on December 13, 2013, 03:49:11 PM
Now all we need is Angelo's and Haggerty's back
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: Coleman on December 13, 2013, 03:50:24 PM
I heard we are also going back to Conference USA
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: MUfan12 on December 13, 2013, 03:50:40 PM
Broeker is the best qualified candidate in the country to run Marquette's Athletics Department.

This.
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: tower912 on December 13, 2013, 03:51:02 PM
Agree that we need a 6'9" mauler for next year, but when was the last time Buzz landed one of those from JUCO?

He's landed everything except a quality big from JUCO.   Maybe this is the year.   But....let's have this discussion in a different thread.     For this one, let us contemplate the domer burning his sweat-stained MU hat.
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: mu03eng on December 13, 2013, 03:51:48 PM
I think we'll be fine but I think overall Larry did a great job.  I was certainly someone wildly against his handling of the Buzz situation, but not everything can be perfect or perfectly handled.  I think the Big East and by extension MU owes LW a huge ovation for pushing and getting everyone into a great situation going forward (or at least the best situation we could hope for).

President, Provost, AD, and B school positions are all open at MU right now.  That has to signal a MAJOR change in direction right???
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: mumike22 on December 13, 2013, 03:52:03 PM
This.

Why not make Broeker AD or at least Interim AD when they announce this?
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: mu03eng on December 13, 2013, 03:53:04 PM
Broeker is the best qualified candidate in the country to run Marquette's Athletics Department.

+1

With Cords back as interim AD I think this signals Broeker's waiting in the wings.  Broeker didn't get it before due to the sex assault stink from Cords writing the rules.  If Cords is back as interim I would say that stink is mostly gone.
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: mu03eng on December 13, 2013, 03:53:22 PM
Why not make him AD now then?

Have to make it the new President's hire
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: jsglow on December 13, 2013, 03:53:30 PM
While Fr. Pilarz had the final say, let's recall that the selection committee included both Doc Rivers and Allie McGuire.  I personally found Larry to be an incredibly bright and stand up individual committed to the combined goal of academics and education.  And let's leave the ND stuff out of it.  I never saw him act in any way other than in MU's interest as he saw it.  God's speed.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: real chili 83 on December 13, 2013, 03:54:41 PM
He does get credit for helping us get to the new BE.

Beyond that, Fr. Wild and the board must have seen that he did not have the right chemistry.
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: mu03eng on December 13, 2013, 03:55:23 PM
While Fr. Pilarz had the final say, let's recall that the selection committee included both Doc Rivers and Allie McGuire.  I personally found Larry to be an incredibly bright and stand up individual committed to the combined goal of academics and education.  And let's leave the ND stuff out of it.  I never saw him act in any way other than in MU's interest as he saw it.  God's speed.

The Domer stuff, like communism, was a red herring
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: keefe on December 13, 2013, 03:55:38 PM
Must be true

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24374599/marquette-ad-larry-williams-resigning-effective-immediately

Adios, Mother F#cker! You and Pilarz were an unmitigated Holier-Than-Thou disaster!

I shall now resume donating to my favorite alma mater.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: MU31 on December 13, 2013, 03:57:24 PM
We're getting the band back together. We're on a mission from God.
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: tower912 on December 13, 2013, 03:57:53 PM


President, Provost, AD, and B school positions are all open at MU right now.  That has to signal a MAJOR change in direction right???

You make a great point.   Broeker certainly should be the leading candidate, but MU has to fill the other two positions first.  
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 13, 2013, 04:08:38 PM
Gotta figure Pilarz and Williams were joined at the privates. Great course of events for Buzz and the program.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: CreightonWarrior on December 13, 2013, 04:12:40 PM
Just curious, what were the negatives with Williams that everyone was happy to see him go? My knowledge outside of the actual basketball team is extremely limited.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Go Warriors on December 13, 2013, 04:14:15 PM
Bring back the Warrior name!!
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Lennys Tap on December 13, 2013, 04:15:04 PM
Pilarz and LW to SLU.
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: Coleman on December 13, 2013, 04:16:22 PM
You make a great point.   Broeker certainly should be the leading candidate, but MU has to fill the other two positions first.  

I heard they are considering Broeker for all four positions. Cost savings.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Norm on December 13, 2013, 04:17:20 PM
Must be true

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24374599/marquette-ad-larry-williams-resigning-effective-immediately

Adios, Mother F#cker! You and Pilarz were an unmitigated Holier-Than-Thou disaster!

I shall now resume donating to my favorite alma mater.
Care to explain how you come to that conclusion? Because I don't think anyone can say the athletic department is in worse shape now than it was before Williams arrived. The sports programs are competing at an all-time high level and we were able to get the new Big East up and running, putting MU in a good position going forward.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: LastWarrior on December 13, 2013, 04:18:15 PM
Goooo Team Buzz!!!
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Coleman on December 13, 2013, 04:18:48 PM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjkiebus/reasons-its-perfectly-acceptable-to-hate-notre-dame
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: keefe on December 13, 2013, 04:19:34 PM
While Fr. Pilarz had the final say, let's recall that the selection committee included both Doc Rivers and Allie McGuire.  I personally found Larry to be an incredibly bright and stand up individual committed to the combined goal of academics and education.  And let's leave the ND stuff out of it.  I never saw him act in any way other than in MU's interest as he saw it.  God's speed.

Glow,

Larry Williams was terrible at Marquette. Otherwise he would not have been summarily dismissed. He was terrible in many ways. Adios!


(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Money/Pix/pictures/2010/10/15/1287157624474/Man-getting-fired-from-hi-006.jpg)


Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: jsglow on December 13, 2013, 04:30:42 PM
Glow,

Larry Williams was terrible at Marquette. Otherwise he would not have been summarily dismissed. He was terrible in many ways. Adios!


(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Money/Pix/pictures/2010/10/15/1287157624474/Man-getting-fired-from-hi-006.jpg)






Keefe, while folks may disagree on Larry's effectiveness, your emphatic statement that he was 'summarily dismissed' is not substantiated as this time.  Please be courteous.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: TallTitan34 on December 13, 2013, 04:30:57 PM
Time to bring back my Pintens for AD marketing campaign!

(Though Broeker is a great choice as well.)
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 13, 2013, 04:32:03 PM
Broeker is the best qualified candidate in the country to run Marquette's Athletics Department.

Then why wasn't he named interim?
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 13, 2013, 04:34:34 PM
While Fr. Pilarz had the final say, let's recall that the selection committee included both Doc Rivers and Allie McGuire.  I personally found Larry to be an incredibly bright and stand up individual committed to the combined goal of academics and education.  And let's leave the ND stuff out of it.  I never saw him act in any way other than in MU's interest as he saw it.  God's speed.

Agree.  He served us well in the conference reshuffling as well.  It will be interesting to hear the stories, those that are ginned up, those that are unfiltered and everything in between.

Sounds like he may be up for another gig
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: 79Warrior on December 13, 2013, 04:38:34 PM
Then why wasn't he named interim?

Cuzz Broeker is in the middle of hoops.
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: Nukem2 on December 13, 2013, 04:38:57 PM
Then why wasn't he named interim?
Because Fr. Wild is interim and is leaving things wide open for the new Prez....
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: NersEllenson on December 13, 2013, 04:39:21 PM
In all seriousness, is this really that good?  I know some people have said Buzz's relationship with Pilarz and Williams wasn't the greatest, but do we know that to be a fact?  Larry landed us in the best possible position given how football dominates everything, and our other sports that were once the doormats of their respective conferences (other than girl's soccer) are kicking ass.  We'll be fine, but Larry did some good things.

Larry was a joke.  Period.  MU ending up in the Catholic version of the Big East was a given...we are a flasgship brand of the New Big East - not like Larry sold us into the league..we were already in...the timing for breaking away was perfect with Fox starting Fox Sports 1, and needing some content...it was inevitable.

It is an absolute fact Buzz was no fan of Larry....Buzz is on cloud nine right now from this development along with Pilarz being gone.  Now if Derrick Wilson can just step up and prove Buzz right....Buzz will be at peak happiness...as will our basketball team!  
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: chapman on December 13, 2013, 04:40:03 PM
Earlier this afternoon?

(http://gifsection.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/buzz-williams.gif)

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Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 13, 2013, 04:41:34 PM
Because Fr. Wild is interim and is leaving things wide open for the new Prez....

Fair enough.  Sounds like we are going to have an interim AD for quite some time then.  We've been down this road before.
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 13, 2013, 04:42:39 PM
Larry was a joke.  Period.  MU ending up in the Catholic version of the Big East was a given...we are a flasgship brand of the New Big East - not like Larry sold us into the league..we were already in...the timing for breaking away was perfect with Fox starting Fox Sports 1, and needing some content...it was inevitable.

It is an absolute fact Buzz was no fan of Larry....Buzz is on cloud nine right now from this development along with Pilarz being gone.  Now if Derrick Wilson can just step up and prove Buzz right....Buzz will be at peak happiness...as will our basketball team!  

You can now share your email from Buzz to you
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: NersEllenson on December 13, 2013, 04:44:36 PM
Agree.  He served us well in the conference reshuffling as well.  It will be interesting to hear the stories, those that are ginned up, those that are unfiltered and everything in between.

Sounds like he may be up for another gig

Highly doubt it....they dropped this bomb on a Friday afternoon per usual, already had Cords lined back up...pretty sure this was being worked on behind the scenes since Wild returned/Pilarz left...

Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: mumike22 on December 13, 2013, 04:48:45 PM
Highly doubt it....they dropped this bomb on a Friday afternoon per usual, already had Cords lined back up...pretty sure this was being worked on behind the scenes since Wild returned/Pilarz left...



Agree - but it is also odd they went back and asked Cords rather than make Broeker iterim or acting.
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: chapman on December 13, 2013, 04:49:46 PM
Highly doubt it....they dropped this bomb on a Friday afternoon per usual, already had Cords lined back up...pretty sure this was being worked on behind the scenes since Wild returned/Pilarz left...

Isn't Friday afternoon for bad news though?

Interim tags galore on Wisconsin Ave... President, Provost, AD, Business Dean.  Fingers crossed we get them right this time.
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: 79Warrior on December 13, 2013, 04:50:28 PM
Agree - but it is also odd they went back and asked Cords rather than make Broeker iterim or acting.

I don't think so. bill is perfect for this gig. mike is in the middle of basketball. It will work itself out.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: brewcity77 on December 13, 2013, 04:51:53 PM
While I'm not sad to see Larry leave, it's hard to deny the success of Marquette Athletics under his watch. While it's easy to chalk up the MBB success to Buzz, our soccer and volleyball teams have also had great success. I'm glad for the role Larry played in this. It wouldn't surprise me if he was up for another job. There was at least one he was a finalist for over the past few months and despite the feeling Marquette Nation may have for him, his résumé will be bolstered by his time here.

In my opinion, now is the time for Mike Broeker. The stink of past events has drifted away and no one is better versed in the program. He's shown his loyalty when he was rightly passed over the last time. I really hope MU gives Mike the chance he deserves.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: 79Warrior on December 13, 2013, 04:52:20 PM

This is the latest email going out to supporters.

 
Vice President and Director of Athletics Larry Williams to leave Marquette University

As an avid supporter of Marquette Athletics, you should be among the first to know that Vice President and Director of Athletics Larry Williams informed Interim President Robert A. Wild, S.J., of his resignation today in order to pursue leadership opportunities outside of Marquette. Williams has served in his role overseeing the university’s department of intercollegiate athletics for the past two years and served on the University Leadership Council.

In an email to faculty, staff and students, Father Wild said: "We want to thank Larry for leading our student-athletes, coaches and athletic staff in our 16 competitive athletic programs for the past two years. We appreciate Larry’s contributions to Marquette University, particularly for leading us into the newly reconfigured Big East and helping establish a unique partnership with FOX Sports. We wish him nothing but success in his future."

Bill Cords, who presided over Marquette's athletics programs for nearly 20 years (from 1987-2006), will serve as interim vice president and director of athletics until a replacement is named. During his tenure, Cords expanded sports offerings at the Division I level, added and improved athletic facilities including the Al McGuire Center and Valley Fields, oversaw athletic and academic achievement, and, most notably, engineered Marquette’s move from independent status ultimately to the Big East Conference.

Father Wild worked closely with Bill for many years, and they have a great working relationship. He has stated publically how much confidence he has in Bill, and their combined experience will ensure our premier athletics programs enjoy continued success.

Our men's and women's soccer teams and women's volleyball team all won Big East and regular season tournament titles and each produced an Academic All-American. There's great excitement around the beginning of the men's basketball Big East season, starting with a tough matchup against Creighton on New Year’s Eve. It's certain to be another thrilling winter of Marquette basketball – both at home at the BMO Harris Bradley Center and on the road against our new conference members – and we’re looking forward to continuing our tradition of excellence with the inaugural spring sports season in the new Big East.

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Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: hdog1017 on December 13, 2013, 04:54:59 PM
Would Father Wild think of being interim AD and president? 
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: tower912 on December 13, 2013, 05:02:17 PM
Just curious, what were the negatives with Williams that everyone was happy to see him go? My knowledge outside of the actual basketball team is extremely limited.
Anecdotally, he had a habit of mispronouncing big donors names and was not particularly inspiring at MU events/fundraisers.   He and Buzz butted heads at the beginning.   To his credit,  he shepherded the MU athletic program into the new Big East.   The other sports are flourishing.   It just seems to me that it is no coincidence that he resigned on the same day that Pilarz was originally leaving and Fr. Wild was supposed to start.   IMO, and this is just MO, like Pilarz he didn't feel like he was the one to lead and promote the MU athletic department during the upcoming major fundraising campaign.     
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: NersEllenson on December 13, 2013, 05:02:42 PM
Interesting to read the wording of the release....today Larry informed MU of his resignation, yet in the same day, MU already has Cords accepting the position...?  Pretty sure Larry at minimum knew the writing was on the wall that he would be replaced at some time in the near future...

And Larry has ZERO role in our Volleyball and Soccer teams doing well - you can thank the coaches of those teams for their recruiting and coaching talent...

A GREAT A.D., creates an environment whereby the coaches under his charge are inspired by his leadership, and that he has their back.  Larry, 91 days into his job, threw the biggest asset in his department under the bus to the local newspaper.  Truly a classic foot in the mouth blunder.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: brewcity77 on December 13, 2013, 05:10:54 PM
And Larry has ZERO role in our Volleyball and Soccer teams doing well - you can thank the coaches of those teams for their recruiting and coaching talent...

If Larry was on a bus full of nuns and the driver had a heart attack, forcing Larry to jump into the driver's seat to keep the bus from careening off a cliff, you would credit the brake manufacturers before you would give him an ounce of credit. Did he make some early missteps and poor public comments? Yes. Did he do a lot of good for our program? Yes. The ill-fated aircraft carrier game and the marquee Ohio State series was all his doing (which I was wrong about initially). The guy did a lot of good for Marquette and our entire athletic program is better for him being here.

Is it time for him to go? Yes, probably. But it's not like the man is the devil, no matter how much you try to say so.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 13, 2013, 05:10:56 PM
Interesting to read the wording of the release....today Larry informed MU of his resignation, yet in the same day, MU already has Cords accepting the position...?  Pretty sure Larry at minimum knew the writing was on the wall that he would be replaced at some time in the near future...

And Larry has ZERO role in our Volleyball and Soccer teams doing well - you can thank the coaches of those teams for their recruiting and coaching talent...

A GREAT A.D., creates an environment whereby the coaches under his charge are inspired by his leadership, and that he has their back.  Larry, 91 days into his job, threw the biggest asset in his department under the bus to the local newspaper.  Truly a classic foot in the mouth blunder.

A great AD is the caretaker of the department, and isn't always going to have the coaches back, nor should he.  Sometimes he will, sometimes he won't.  He has to also make known that if you stray from the image of the university, or take the university to a place it doesn't want to go, there will be ramifications for such actions.  If the AD's only job was to have the coaches back, then you would have a lot more athletic departments not hiring new coaches or cleaning up messes their coaches caused.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on December 13, 2013, 05:23:26 PM
Hiroshima!
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: NersEllenson on December 13, 2013, 05:28:30 PM
A great AD is the caretaker of the department, and isn't always going to have the coaches back, nor should he.  Sometimes he will, sometimes he won't.  He has to also make known that if you stray from the image of the university, or take the university to a place it doesn't want to go, there will be ramifications for such actions.  If the AD's only job was to have the coaches back, then you would have a lot more athletic departments not hiring new coaches or cleaning up messes their coaches caused.

This is all fine and well....but when your biggest skins on the wall are having served as the University of Portland's athletic director, and 91 days on the job, you throw your highly successful and well liked coach under the bus for doing a totally spontaneous, harmless 2 step after winning a big game....that is beyond doing what you write above...and plus no need to make that quote to the Journal Sentinel - discuss it in private if you want...

But then if you want to add on raising admission standards, and moving the incoming freshman basketball players out of Humphrey and into normal dorms - while other programs are building state of the art, 5 star residences for their basketball and football players - Kentucky, OkState - yeah, okay Larry, that's really supporting and helping your basketball coach recruiting....WHATEVER!

Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Eldon on December 13, 2013, 05:31:10 PM
I heard that LW needs some time off to reflect on questions pertaining to his sexuality--hence the early Friday evening breaking of the news.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 13, 2013, 05:35:40 PM
Did he struggle with his decision and ax guidance from others?
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: DegenerateDish on December 13, 2013, 05:43:01 PM
They announced this late on a Friday? Shocking.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: mu_hilltopper on December 13, 2013, 05:47:40 PM
Whatever is best for MUScoop.com.  And this is really good for MUScoop.com.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Eldon on December 13, 2013, 05:49:58 PM
Whatever is best for MUScoop.com.  And this is really good for MUScoop.com.

So what you're saying is Scoop's value is now over $175?
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 13, 2013, 06:01:03 PM
Why not make Broeker AD or at least Interim AD when they announce this?

Maybe so that if MU does want to interview anyone else they won't laugh when MU calls.  (i.e. "Oh yeah, that's going to be a fair competition.")
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on December 13, 2013, 06:01:22 PM
Hiroshima!

Forgot what Hiroshima was originally in reference to on this board.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: chapman on December 13, 2013, 06:05:41 PM
So what you're saying is Scoop's value is now over $175?

Just found a site giving Scoop a $20,520 valuation!  Zuckerberg ain't got nothing!
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 13, 2013, 06:15:27 PM
This is all fine and well....but when your biggest skins on the wall are having served as the University of Portland's athletic director, and 91 days on the job, you throw your highly successful and well liked coach under the bus for doing a totally spontaneous, harmless 2 step after winning a big game....that is beyond doing what you write above...and plus no need to make that quote to the Journal Sentinel - discuss it in private if you want...

But then if you want to add on raising admission standards, and moving the incoming freshman basketball players out of Humphrey and into normal dorms - while other programs are building state of the art, 5 star residences for their basketball and football players - Kentucky, OkState - yeah, okay Larry, that's really supporting and helping your basketball coach recruiting....WHATEVER!

There will always be those OTHER programs doing that stuff.  That doesn't mean we should be UK or OSU.  There are many ways to skin a cat, to excel in athletics, and to force the athletes to be as close to possible normal people and not put on an even higher pedestal.  For every example you give like that, there are examples the other way of non athletic dorms and plenty of successes. 

Buzz's biggest skin on the wall was one year at New Orleans.  Al McGuire's biggest coaching skin on the wall was Belmont Abby.  Sometimes big skins aren't all they are cracked up to be.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on December 13, 2013, 06:21:43 PM
I heard he just wants to teach
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: melissasmooth on December 13, 2013, 06:22:19 PM
Does this mean the basketball players are free again to roam the campus and do whatever they want without any consequences?
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: NersEllenson on December 13, 2013, 06:35:04 PM
Does this mean the basketball players are free again to roam the campus and do whatever they want without any consequences?

Hopefully. And hopefully they'll continue to dawg you out "smooth."
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 13, 2013, 06:52:04 PM
Interesting to read the wording of the release....today Larry informed MU of his resignation, yet in the same day, MU already has Cords accepting the position...?  Pretty sure Larry at minimum knew the writing was on the wall that he would be replaced at some time in the near future...

And Larry has ZERO role in our Volleyball and Soccer teams doing well - you can thank the coaches of those teams for their recruiting and coaching talent...

A GREAT A.D., creates an environment whereby the coaches under his charge are inspired by his leadership, and that he has their back.  Larry, 91 days into his job, threw the biggest asset in his department under the bus to the local newspaper.  Truly a classic foot in the mouth blunder.

Strangely enough, in spite of the "resignation", I suspect that he is leaving with a nice compensation package/settlement.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 13, 2013, 06:56:50 PM
Just found a site giving Scoop a $20,520 valuation!  Zuckerberg ain't got nothing!

That valuation is based on axing the moderators and immediately adding a heavy dose of advertising particularly for alcohol, firearms and antidepressants.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 13, 2013, 07:03:35 PM
Does this mean the basketball players are free again to roam the campus and do whatever they want without any consequences?


Hummm......no.  

However, Marquette Tribune editors will still be allowed to call incoherent, logically inconsistent rants editorials, though.

BTW, is getting kicked off the team and run out of Marquette a consequence?
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: willie warrior on December 13, 2013, 07:09:33 PM
Just curious, what were the negatives with Williams that everyone was happy to see him go? My knowledge outside of the actual basketball team is extremely limited.
Yeah, what were they--sounds like there is a lot of political agenda going on within the administration.
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: willie warrior on December 13, 2013, 07:13:17 PM
Larry was a joke.  Period.  MU ending up in the Catholic version of the Big East was a given...we are a flasgship brand of the New Big East - not like Larry sold us into the league..we were already in...the timing for breaking away was perfect with Fox starting Fox Sports 1, and needing some content...it was inevitable.

It is an absolute fact Buzz was no fan of Larry....Buzz is on cloud nine right now from this development along with Pilarz being gone.  Now if Derrick Wilson can just step up and prove Buzz right....Buzz will be at peak happiness...as will our basketball team!  
Doesn't Jake Thomas and Juan Anderson also need to step up to prove Buzz right? Or is 33.3% good.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: chapman on December 13, 2013, 07:23:50 PM
But then if you want to add on raising admission standards, and moving the incoming freshman basketball players out of Humphrey and into normal dorms - while other programs are building state of the art, 5 star residences for their basketball and football players - Kentucky, OkState - yeah, okay Larry, that's really supporting and helping your basketball coach recruiting....WHATEVER!

Someone please tell me tomorrow evening's team bonding activity will be moving them into Humphrey.  A good way to fix the dumb and move on.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 13, 2013, 07:43:56 PM
Someone please tell me tomorrow evening's team bonding activity will be moving them into Humphrey.  A good way to fix the dumb and move on.

That would be awesome.  Maybe as they are moving out to Humphrey they can turn to their fellow students and say "see ya peon suckers" 
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 13, 2013, 07:47:45 PM

But then if you want to add on raising admission standards, and moving the incoming freshman basketball players out of Humphrey and into normal dorms - while other programs are building state of the art, 5 star residences for their basketball and football players - Kentucky, OkState - yeah, okay Larry, that's really supporting and helping your basketball coach recruiting....WHATEVER!


Unless legislation changed in the last year, athletic dorms are still prohibited.  They were outlawed in 1991 phased out completely in 1996.  

As of 2012, that was still the NCAA's rule, but they were considering changing it (until they change it again down the road with a repeat of what happened in the SEC, SWC, etc that led to the original ban years ago).

The rules currently state at least 50% of the student dorm population must be non athletes.

Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 13, 2013, 07:48:54 PM
And the final chapter of the prophesy has been written...

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=31777.msg385983#msg385983
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 13, 2013, 07:51:27 PM
And the final chapter of the prophesy has been written...

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=31777.msg385983#msg385983


So you are Hoopaloop....I knew it
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 13, 2013, 08:08:07 PM
Unless legislation changed in the last year, athletic dorms are still prohibited.  They were outlawed in 1991 phased out completely in 1996.  

As of 2012, that was still the NCAA's rule, but they were considering changing it (until they change it again down the road with a repeat of what happened in the SEC, SWC, etc that led to the original ban years ago).

The rules currently state at least 50% of the student dorm population must be non athletes.



Wow, I did not get the impression when viewing Kentucky's video on their new 5 star dorm for basketball players that there were any non b-ball players allowed.  Still remember Calipari turning toward the woman at a desk by the front door saying; "Her job is to make sure that nobody who doesn't belong in here gets in."  I guess that UK must have included a floor for the offspring of heavy donors to the program.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 13, 2013, 08:13:04 PM
And the final chapter of the prophesy has been written...

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=31777.msg385983#msg385983


Impressive.  I recall some kind of quote from somewhere along the lines of "the best way to foretell the future is to correctly read the present."  You seem to have done that in this instance.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 13, 2013, 08:13:18 PM
So you are Hoopaloop....I knew it

If you are looking for him, glance in the mirror.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 13, 2013, 08:15:06 PM
If you are looking for him, glance in the mirror.

I see an aging but sweet looking dude - that ain't him.  Sorry hoop, if you are peaking in.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 13, 2013, 08:17:39 PM
Wow, I did not get the impression when viewing Kentucky's video on their new 5 star dorm for basketball players that there were any non b-ball players allowed.  Still remember Calipari turning toward the woman at a desk by the front door saying; "Her job is to make sure that nobody who doesn't belong in here gets in."  I guess that UK must have included a floor for the offspring of heavy donors to the program.

They are pushing it to sell UK recruits on, but the 50% rule applies.  Here's an article on it

http://larrybrownsports.com/college-basketball/kentuckys-housing-chef-flat-screens

Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: NavinRJohnson on December 13, 2013, 08:26:06 PM
Does this mean the basketball players are free again to roam the campus and do whatever they want without any consequences?

This will help recruiting.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 13, 2013, 08:26:52 PM
They are pushing it to sell UK recruits on, but the 50% rule applies.  Here's an article on it

http://larrybrownsports.com/college-basketball/kentuckys-housing-chef-flat-screens



Humm, a full academic ride to Harvard or a full academic ride to Kentucky with a guarantee of housing in the Wildcat Coal Lodge.  Decisions, decisions.

I'd love to see the NCAA change the rule to a somewhere between 75 and 90% rule.  That would cause some tough decisions to take place.  In truth, it would probably just hasten a split between the NCAA and the BCS schools.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Afroman on December 13, 2013, 08:35:19 PM
Adios, Notre Dame Larry.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: madtownwarrior on December 13, 2013, 08:42:31 PM
I guess he never could pronounce Marquette's biggest donors names correctly after all these years. 
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Nukem2 on December 13, 2013, 08:54:34 PM
I guess he never could pronounce Marquette's biggest donors names correctly after all these years.  
It takes Domers more than 2 years to get those German and Polish names right.....
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 13, 2013, 08:58:23 PM
I guess he never could pronounce Marquette's biggest donors names correctly after all these years. 

When you cannot pronounce "Dick Strong", it is time to move on... ;)
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 13, 2013, 09:01:31 PM
When you cannot pronounce "Dick Strong", it is time to move on... ;)

No problem with pronunciation, it was just embarrassing when he'd giggle each time he said it.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: tower912 on December 13, 2013, 09:04:10 PM
Hopefully. And hopefully they'll continue to dawg you out "smooth."

Misogyny is not a positive choice.  Stop choosing it. 
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: MU82 on December 13, 2013, 09:50:03 PM
Buzz to AD.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: real chili 83 on December 13, 2013, 09:57:08 PM
The BOT picked Fr. P, and endorsed LW.

They need to take a long look in the mirror too.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Lennys Tap on December 13, 2013, 10:00:58 PM
And the final chapter of the prophesy has been written...

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=31777.msg385983#msg385983


I said "dead on" and gave you big props back then. I'll repeat it tonight.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: mu-rara on December 13, 2013, 10:13:24 PM
The BOT picked Fr. P, and endorsed LW.

They need to take a long look in the mirror too.
THIS!
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: Avenue Commons on December 13, 2013, 10:22:44 PM
Agree.  He served us well in the conference reshuffling as well.  It will be interesting to hear the stories, those that are ginned up, those that are unfiltered and everything in between.

Sounds like he may be up for another gig

Let me first say I know nothing about what happened.

But isn't there a possibility Williams wanted out?
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 13, 2013, 10:32:49 PM
Nope, Board is cuttin' their losses short, hey?
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: chapman on December 13, 2013, 10:37:55 PM
The BOT picked Fr. P, and endorsed LW.

They need to take a long look in the mirror too.

For any impact they had in realizing things weren't right and moving the ahem, resignations, forward I applaud them.  However, with so many critical university positions being held in the interim by those who have already done far more than we should have to ask of them, I beg they D.F.I.U. again.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 13, 2013, 10:56:39 PM
Maybe Old Larry's job is complete havin' taught Buzz all he knows 'bout actin' like a coach and such, a'ina?
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: real chili 83 on December 13, 2013, 11:03:52 PM
Maybe Old Larry's job is complete havin' taught Buzz all he knows 'bout actin' like a coach and such, a'ina?

The interview LW gave to the JS pretty much eroded most of any credibility LW had as a leader.

Dude was smart, but not as smart as he thought he was. They must not teach servant leadership at the golden orb.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Logi4three on December 13, 2013, 11:35:08 PM
Just an ordinary fan here and don't know Larry from Adam, but sure seemed like he took a lead in the BE as it is now known and for that I am thankful.  I wish him well and hope that our current/new AD continues to kick A. 
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: keefe on December 13, 2013, 11:50:00 PM
Keefe, while folks may disagree on Larry's effectiveness, your emphatic statement that he was 'summarily dismissed' is not substantiated as this time.  Please be courteous.  Thanks.

Glow

The guy was fired less than 2 years into a strategically important posting. If you don't think Larry Williams was fired then I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale. There is a huge difference in reality between, "Larry Williams has left Marquette University to assume the same role at the University of X" and "Larry Williams has chosen to explore other opportunities."
 

I keep hearing how Jimmy Carter is a great guy. The man was a disaster as President. Larry Williams might be a lovable guy but, like Jimmy Carter, he was a terrible senior executive at my alma mater. Good riddance.

Do you really believe he wasn't fired?
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Avenue Commons on December 14, 2013, 12:04:23 AM
I'm with Keefe on this for sure. Williams struck me as a very decent guy. I have no issue with anyone at Marquette having high standards. Marquette should have high standards. Marquette is emerging over the past decade as far and away the most prominent Jesuit university west of the east coast. We should, we must, value principle.

I wish Williams the best going forward. Truly and sincerely.

As for the Notre Dame bashing, we have more in common with ND than most other schools in this country. They are our rival, but they are our friend. The new Big East would have been a real monster with ND. BTW , I'm not an ND fan. Just being observant.

 
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: keefe on December 14, 2013, 12:05:23 AM
The BOT picked Fr. P, and endorsed LW.

They need to take a long look in the mirror too.

It is this woman's fault. Anne Zizzo.

(http://www.marquette.edu/leadership/images/zizzo_128.jpg)

I just looked at the BoT and several of the members are head scratchers. But after the Gold nonsense Zizzo should have resigned.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: WarriorDoc on December 14, 2013, 12:11:05 AM
Who governs the BoT? 

Also why do we have 35 trustees?  At a school with "Leadership" as one of the core pillars, I would assume trustees would be well-versed in some of the basic tenants of teams and decision-making.  First and foremost, when building a leadership team, 35 is clearly too many.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: keefe on December 14, 2013, 12:33:15 AM
Who governs the BoT? 

Also why do we have 35 trustees?  At a school with "Leadership" as one of the core pillars, I would assume trustees would be well-versed in some of the basic tenants of teams and decision-making.  First and foremost, when building a leadership team, 35 is clearly too many.

I noticed that. Harvard's Board has 9 members while Michigan's has 8. 35 seems to be way over the top.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: madtownwarrior on December 14, 2013, 12:45:46 AM
How come no one relates this to the latest Mayo suspension ?
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: keefe on December 14, 2013, 12:55:02 AM
How come no one relates this to the latest Mayo suspension ?


I think we all know Mayo's harassment has Zizzo Group stink all over it
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Newsdreams on December 14, 2013, 01:01:35 AM
How come no one relates this to the latest Mayo suspension ?

Teal? Suspension was for being late to practice that is a Buzz decision. A good one from my point of view.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on December 14, 2013, 03:19:50 AM
Teal? Suspension was for being late to practice that is a Buzz decision. A good one from my point of view.
by leaving the teal off he ensured that someone would make a hilarious post like this. Of course it's sarcastic.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: WarriorFan on December 14, 2013, 06:07:49 AM
Larry W had to manage a transition and he did so without messing it up.  He did his job. He did nothing special.   Now there will be a new Prez so he might as well go.  What's more dangerous is Bill Cords coming back because he defines incompetence and enjoys being surrounded by it.  Let's hope he doesn't get a chance to make any decisions more difficult than who's on the cover of the game-day program.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: GGGG on December 14, 2013, 07:05:38 AM
I noticed that. Harvard's Board has 9 members while Michigan's has 8. 35 seems to be way over the top.


You are right.  35 members is a throwback to the day when you could spread the wealth and involve as many as you would like.

A strategy to be able to negate that would be to have an executive committee with greater power, and a full Board that meets less often and has mostly a ceremonial function.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: GGGG on December 14, 2013, 07:07:50 AM
BTW, as soon as Pilarz was forced out , this was completely inevitable.

IMO, you will see Broeker named AD and Buzz will get a more lucrative deal shortly thereafter. 
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: tower912 on December 14, 2013, 07:15:58 AM
BTW, as soon as Pilarz was forced out , this was completely inevitable.

IMO, you will see Broeker named AD and Buzz will get a more lucrative deal shortly thereafter. 
I think that is the probable end-game, but I think for symbolic reasons they will fill the president and provost positions first. 
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: GGGG on December 14, 2013, 07:20:52 AM
I think that is the probable end-game, but I think for symbolic reasons they will fill the president and provost positions first. 


Yeah, but I doubt this goes longer than the end of June.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: GGGG on December 14, 2013, 07:21:50 AM
Larry W had to manage a transition and he did so without messing it up.  He did his job. He did nothing special.   Now there will be a new Prez so he might as well go.  What's more dangerous is Bill Cords coming back because he defines incompetence and enjoys being surrounded by it.  Let's hope he doesn't get a chance to make any decisions more difficult than who's on the cover of the game-day program.


Cords is just going to do what he does best.  Come in an repair relationships with those inside and outside the AD.  He knows his role.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: GGGG on December 14, 2013, 07:32:02 AM
Time to bring back my Pintens for AD marketing campaign!

(Though Broeker is a great choice as well.)


I know Craig Pintens.  He would be the first to tell you he isn't qualified.  Broeker as AD...Pintens as assistant would be good.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: GGGG on December 14, 2013, 07:34:20 AM
Interesting to read the wording of the release....today Larry informed MU of his resignation, yet in the same day, MU already has Cords accepting the position...?  Pretty sure Larry at minimum knew the writing was on the wall that he would be replaced at some time in the near future...


I am pretty sure he was fired...they negotiated a buy out...and he was allowed to save face through a resignation. 
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: GGGG on December 14, 2013, 07:36:04 AM
Unless legislation changed in the last year, athletic dorms are still prohibited.  They were outlawed in 1991 phased out completely in 1996. 

As of 2012, that was still the NCAA's rule, but they were considering changing it (until they change it again down the road with a repeat of what happened in the SEC, SWC, etc that led to the original ban years ago).

The rules currently state at least 50% of the student dorm population must be non athletes.


You build a nice new residence hall for 50 people, you house the basketball team there and a bunch of graduate students.  Problem solved.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: We R Final Four on December 14, 2013, 07:51:21 AM
Does this mean the basketball players are free again to roam the campus and do whatever they want without any consequences?

Wow--stay classy Smooth.

I guess this still means you can say whatever you want on a message board without any consequences or my guess is you wouldnt say such things.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 14, 2013, 08:06:54 AM
What do DiUlio, Pilarz, and Williams all have in common?
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: 🏀 on December 14, 2013, 08:07:45 AM

I know Craig Pintens.  He would be the first to tell you he isn't qualified.  Broeker as AD...Pintens as assistant would be good.

Isn't qualified? The man it's just being humble. What do you think he did all those years with the Snappers? Twiddle his thumbs?
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: GGGG on December 14, 2013, 08:14:53 AM
Isn't qualified? The man it's just being humble. What do you think he did all those years with the Snappers? Twiddle his thumbs?


He's a specialist.  He's a marketer...one of the best in the business...but he doesn't have the generalist exposure to a lot of the key things that an AD does. 
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: 🏀 on December 14, 2013, 08:16:30 AM

He's a specialist.  He's a marketer...one of the best in the business...but he doesn't have the generalist exposure to a lot of the key things that an AD does. 

There's a bit of tongue in cheek for the whole thing.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: GGGG on December 14, 2013, 08:17:18 AM
There's a bit of tongue in cheek for the whole thing.


Ah OK....
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Goose on December 14, 2013, 08:30:35 AM
IMO this is either excellent news for fans of MU ball or very bad news. On the excellent side, the BOT decided Fr. P and LW did not understand the history of MU ball and the benefits that the program brings to the school. On the very bad news side, it could be there is an internal problem and Fr. P and LW decided to bolt before it was too late.

I personally would lean towards to excellent news, but with the limited information provided by the school and guys jumping ship it is difficult to say with 100% certainty. MU needs to far better job of making announcements and offering more disclosure on what leads up to these decisions.

For the record, I have no idea what is the reason why he left or was fired (if that was the case). I am hoping this turns into a long term positive for the men's basketball team at MU. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: real chili 83 on December 14, 2013, 08:42:24 AM
IMO this is either excellent news for fans of MU ball or very bad news. On the excellent side, the BOT decided Fr. P and LW did not understand the history of MU ball and the benefits that the program brings to the school. On the very bad news side, it could be there is an internal problem and Fr. P and LW decided to bolt before it was too late.

I personally would lean towards to excellent news, but with the limited information provided by the school and guys jumping ship it is difficult to say with 100% certainty. MU needs to far better job of making announcements and offering more disclosure on what leads up to these decisions.

For the record, I have no idea what is the reason why he left or was fired (if that was the case). I am hoping this turns into a long term positive for the men's basketball team at MU. Time will tell.

Goose, this is as much of a 180 as possible from what your source(s) told you 18 months ago. Curious if your sources have/will leave now.

Gotta give Buzz credit for sticking it out.  I wonder if someone whispered in his ear "be patient, this be be taken care of" 18 months ago. 

Stuff like this doesn't "just happen".
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: GGGG on December 14, 2013, 08:54:39 AM
I personally would lean towards to excellent news, but with the limited information provided by the school and guys jumping ship it is difficult to say with 100% certainty. MU needs to far better job of making announcements and offering more disclosure on what leads up to these decisions.


Why?  Those who need to know are certainly in the know.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 14, 2013, 09:02:46 AM
Buzz to AD.

Fox Hen House  
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: 🏀 on December 14, 2013, 09:09:23 AM

Why?  Those who need to know are certainly in the know.

So some Scoopers can feel like they have inside sources again.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: madtownwarrior on December 14, 2013, 09:18:58 AM
Hmmm...

Last Saturday at Wisconsin, Buzz Williams suspended junior guard Todd Mayo for one game for breaking a team rule. It was Mayo's third disciplinary incident at Marquette, and there are those in administration who believed the suspension should have been longer.

How come no one relates this to the latest Mayo suspension ?

Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on December 14, 2013, 09:24:11 AM
Glow

The guy was fired less than 2 years into a strategically important posting. If you don't think Larry Williams was fired then I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale. There is a huge difference in reality between, "Larry Williams has left Marquette University to assume the same role at the University of X" and "Larry Williams has chosen to explore other opportunities."
 

I keep hearing how Jimmy Carter is a great guy. The man was a disaster as President. Larry Williams might be a lovable guy but, like Jimmy Carter, he was a terrible senior executive at my alma mater. Good riddance.

Do you really believe he wasn't fired?

Does it really matter? 
He is no longer working for Marquette.     
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: The Equalizer on December 14, 2013, 09:27:30 AM

I am pretty sure he was fired...they negotiated a buy out...and he was allowed to save face through a resignation. 

Do you have any actual inside knowledge, or did you pull this from your ass?
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: jsglow on December 14, 2013, 09:32:36 AM
Glow

The guy was fired less than 2 years into a strategically important posting. If you don't think Larry Williams was fired then I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale. There is a huge difference in reality between, "Larry Williams has left Marquette University to assume the same role at the University of X" and "Larry Williams has chosen to explore other opportunities."
 

I keep hearing how Jimmy Carter is a great guy. The man was a disaster as President. Larry Williams might be a lovable guy but, like Jimmy Carter, he was a terrible senior executive at my alma mater. Good riddance.

Do you really believe he wasn't fired?

Yes, Keefe.  I believe he was let go.  I just get a little miffed (and I'm not blaming you) when some people unnecessarily dance on his grave.  While I disagreed with some but not all of his initiatives, I personally found him to be a very nice man who always seemed genuinely interested in my perspectives. I wish him nothing but the best.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: madtownwarrior on December 14, 2013, 09:49:34 AM
Maybe LW got tired of watching Buzz start the worst offensive backcourt in college basketball?
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: jsglow on December 14, 2013, 09:52:22 AM
IMO this is either excellent news for fans of MU ball or very bad news. On the excellent side, the BOT decided Fr. P and LW did not understand the history of MU ball and the benefits that the program brings to the school. On the very bad news side, it could be there is an internal problem and Fr. P and LW decided to bolt before it was too late.

I personally would lean towards to excellent news, but with the limited information provided by the school and guys jumping ship it is difficult to say with 100% certainty. MU needs to far better job of making announcements and offering more disclosure on what leads up to these decisions.

For the record, I have no idea what is the reason why he left or was fired (if that was the case). I am hoping this turns into a long term positive for the men's basketball team at MU. Time will tell.

Goose,

No doubt there is an overall major shakeup underway that involves what I'll call the 'Pilarz crowd'.  I believe that each of the Pilarz direct reports on the Leadership Council that where brought in during his tenure have now left the university.  I will state emphatically that LW was not part of any 'Scranton crowd' that followed Pilarz here but was unearthed during a nationwide search by the committee headed by Allie McGuire and was the head and shoulders 'winner' among committee members of the three reported finalists.

I have reason to believe that 'much progress' has been made on numerous fronts (mostly not related to Athletics) since the Pilarz departure although I know for certain that Fr. Wild has fully embraced the Strategic Plan passed by the BOT last May.  I have also made a conscious decision not to press for more information although I'm confident that once the dust has fully settled I'll get the whole story.  That doesn't mean I'll necessarily share it though.  I appreciate your thoughtful posts.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 14, 2013, 10:00:48 AM
Absolutely great news for those of us who recognize the value of Buzz and the prospects of him stayin' long term at Marquette.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Sir Lawrence on December 14, 2013, 10:31:15 AM
Absolutely great news for those of us who recognize the value of Buzz and the prospects of him stayin' long term at Marquette.

Amen, brother.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 14, 2013, 10:46:48 AM
From a student perspective pretty happy to see him and Pilarz go. Neither were liked by the students that much especially LW. He tried to micromanage wayyy to much and sent out too many emails.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: tower912 on December 14, 2013, 10:48:45 AM
Wonder if the new AD is going to censor cheers by the students.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 14, 2013, 10:49:55 AM
Wonder if the new AD is going to censor cheers by the students.

Im hoping we get the "Hey" chant back today!
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 14, 2013, 10:50:11 AM
Goose,

No doubt there is an overall major shakeup underway that involves what I'll call the 'Pilarz crowd'.  I believe that each of the Pilarz direct reports on the Leadership Council that where brought in during his tenure have now left the university.  I will state emphatically that LW was not part of any 'Scranton crowd' that followed Pilarz here but was unearthed during a nationwide search by the committee headed by Allie McGuire and was the head and shoulders 'winner' among committee members of the three reported finalists.

The search was done by Parker.  Larry and Mary DiStanislao had ties together back to ND Athletics. Before she was named to her MU leadership role, she headed up the Marquette Athletics Review ordered by SP.  Oh, and she was a childhood friend of SP. Not to pick on you, but the statement that LW was not part of the Scranton crowd simply isn't true. Allie and Doc were just rubber stampers essentially.

This is not to say LW didn't have the qualifications or didn't have accomplishments...but the Pilarz regime's legacy is as an unmitigated disaster--that cannot be denied.  And LW tied his horse to that cart from Day 1. Thus, why should he and MU go on together?
Title: Re: Larry's Leavin'!!!!
Post by: swoopem on December 14, 2013, 10:52:41 AM
dance on his grave.

Good Grateful Dead song, well played Glow
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: jsglow on December 14, 2013, 10:55:01 AM
From a student perspective pretty happy to see him and Pilarz go. Neither were liked by the students that much especially LW. He tried to micromanage wayyy to much and sent out too many emails.

If the band plays the 'You Suck' song today we'll all know the worm has turned.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 14, 2013, 11:00:27 AM
If the band plays the 'You Suck' song today we'll all know the worm has turned.

True. Id actually like to qualify my statement a little. I wasnt a fan of him, however I recognize that he did a fantastic job of getting us into this conference and was one of the leaders in that regard. Not a fan of his relations to students but really happy the way the Big East turned out.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: NersEllenson on December 14, 2013, 11:01:24 AM
The search was done by Parker.  Larry and Mary DiStanislao had ties together back to ND Athletics. Before she was named to her MU leadership role, she headed up the Marquette Athletics Review ordered by SP.  Oh, and she was a childhood friend of SP. Not to pick on you, but the statement that LW was not part of the Scranton crowd simply isn't true. Allie and Doc were just rubber stampers essentially.

This is not to say LW didn't have the qualifications or didn't have accomplishments...but the Pilarz regime's legacy is as an unmitigated disaster--that cannot be denied.  And LW tied his horse to that cart from Day 1. Thus, why should he and MU go on together?

I'm proud that MU recognized the mistake, and took action swiftly to correct things.  Higher education, like any business, is ultra competitive - and if you have shaky (at best leadership), it's going to end badly, if you don't take action.

Truer words have never been spoken:

Absolutely great news for those of us who recognize the value of Buzz and the prospects of him stayin' long term at Marquette.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: NersEllenson on December 14, 2013, 11:06:17 AM
True. Id actually like to qualify my statement a little. I wasnt a fan of him, however I recognize that he did a fantastic job of getting us into this conference and was one of the leaders in that regard. Not a fan of his relations to students but really happy the way the Big East turned out.

I believe the whole idea that Larry Williams was the driving force behind the Big East is a total fallacy.  As our AD, he had to make comments on the matter, and state the universities position.

The writing was on the wall for all basketball only schools - the Big East was crumbling with defections of football schools.  Fox Sports 1 needed content.  It had long been discussed about the inevitablility to us needing to one day be in an all basketball league.  And, it isn't like we were Creighton, on the outside of the Big East looking in - and Larry pitched/sold us on getting into new Big East.  We, along with Villanova and Georgetown ARE the marquee brands of the basketball only Big East - no way we weren't going to be a part of it.

If we have anyone to thank, it's Father Wild, Bill Cords, and Tom Crean for getting MU basketball turned around and invited into the Big East back in 2006.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on December 14, 2013, 11:29:32 AM
nm.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 14, 2013, 11:49:47 AM
I believe the whole idea that Larry Williams was the driving force behind the Big East is a total fallacy.  As our AD, he had to make comments on the matter, and state the universities position.

The writing was on the wall for all basketball only schools - the Big East was crumbling with defections of football schools.  Fox Sports 1 needed content.  It had long been discussed about the inevitablility to us needing to one day be in an all basketball league.  And, it isn't like we were Creighton, on the outside of the Big East looking in - and Larry pitched/sold us on getting into new Big East.  We, along with Villanova and Georgetown ARE the marquee brands of the basketball only Big East - no way we weren't going to be a part of it.

If we have anyone to thank, it's Father Wild, Bill Cords, and Tom Crean for getting MU basketball turned around and invited into the Big East back in 2006.

I think you are missing the point on this.  MU was going to have a seat at the table for the Big East, that is understood and agreed to.  The question is what role would MU have and MU + Gtown ended up taking the lead roles in how it was shaped, the berthing of the conference, etc.  LW had a key role in that, including who the last two members of the conference would be, the television contract, etc.   I realize that LW put some clamps on our coach and came in to help clean up the mess created by his players, but someone had to do it for perception purposes at a minimum. 

If Buzz is that thin skinned about those comments LW made, then I worry a great deal about Buzz. 
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: forgetful on December 14, 2013, 12:06:35 PM
I think you are missing the point on this.  MU was going to have a seat at the table for the Big East, that is understood and agreed to.  The question is what role would MU have and MU + Gtown ended up taking the lead roles in how it was shaped, the berthing of the conference, etc.  LW had a key role in that, including who the last two members of the conference would be, the television contract, etc.   I realize that LW put some clamps on our coach and came in to help clean up the mess created by his players, but someone had to do it for perception purposes at a minimum. 

If Buzz is that thin skinned about those comments LW made, then I worry a great deal about Buzz. 


Again you are mistaking the difference between doing your job and doing your job well.  As you correctly note, MU was going to have a seat at the table no matter what.  But, as one of the top 2 most prestigious programs in the conference we were also going to have a leading voice in the matter regardless of who was in charge.  Had he not had a leading voice it would be a severe dereliction of duty.  To slap him on the back and say awesome job, for doing his job is over the top.

Larry Williams was extremely poor in how he handled Buzz...extremely poor in dealing with important donors...and extremely poor in dealing with fundraising.  As a AD, those are his three most important jobs.


Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 14, 2013, 12:13:42 PM

Again you are mistaking the difference between doing your job and doing your job well.  As you correctly note, MU was going to have a seat at the table no matter what.  But, as one of the top 2 most prestigious programs in the conference we were also going to have a leading voice in the matter regardless of who was in charge.  Had he not had a leading voice it would be a severe dereliction of duty.  To slap him on the back and say awesome job, for doing his job is over the top.

Larry Williams was extremely poor in how he handled Buzz...extremely poor in dealing with important donors...and extremely poor in dealing with fundraising.  As a AD, those are his three most important jobs.

It's one thing to have a seat at the table, one to have a place in the negotiations, quite another to do it so things aren't screwed up and that's what I am talking about.

As for fundraising, what are the numbers?  I don't know, I'm asking.

Certainly it is clear that there remains a faction of give Buzz whatever he wants, let him do whatever he wants.  I get it, I don't agree with it and think ultimately it bites people hard, but I get why some people want to go down that direction.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: 79Warrior on December 14, 2013, 12:45:33 PM
IMO this is either excellent news for fans of MU ball or very bad news. On the excellent side, the BOT decided Fr. P and LW did not understand the history of MU ball and the benefits that the program brings to the school. On the very bad news side, it could be there is an internal problem and Fr. P and LW decided to bolt before it was too late.

I personally would lean towards to excellent news, but with the limited information provided by the school and guys jumping ship it is difficult to say with 100% certainty. MU needs to far better job of making announcements and offering more disclosure on what leads up to these decisions.

For the record, I have no idea what is the reason why he left or was fired (if that was the case). I am hoping this turns into a long term positive for the men's basketball team at MU. Time will tell.

Goose,

I don't not believe the departure of Fr. P and LW are related. Fr. P simply was not cut out to be President of Marquette. There is way more to that position than men's basketball. Fr. P was not connecting with alumni or donors. That is death in his position.

Who know with LW, but it seems it was planned. He either informed Fr. Wild and gave him enough time to get Cords in place, or Fr. Wild lined up Cords and showed LW the door. Eventually the story will surface.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: GGGG on December 14, 2013, 12:45:59 PM
The athletic department was apparently having troubles balancing its books due to some issues with donors.  Not sure that was Pilarz or LW related however.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Goose on December 14, 2013, 12:56:33 PM
real chilli

Not sure how this a 180 or not. If my sources at the time were accurate there was trouble at The Al. If you mean by Buzz remaining and Fr.P and LW leaving is connected I actually think my source was completely accurate. I mentioned many times that deal for Buzz to leave was done and added a lot could happen in a year. Well, roughly 20 months later something did happen. Possibly level thinking BOT and donors decided MU basketball is and should be a top priority.

Really have no interest in rehashing or defending my comments from 2012 again. That said, possibly the rift was very real and Buzz won the battle.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Goose on December 14, 2013, 01:11:39 PM
Only question IMO on LW departing is timing of it. Understand a deal was probably made and salary may be paid for period of time. Unless he is a very wealthy man you would think for career purposes having a new gig would be better idea than not having a new gig. So, looks to me he was canned and such is life.

Honestly, if he quit or was fired it makes zero difference to me. My hopes are a new AD that understands the role the basketball program has in the overall success of the university. Hopefully new guy and Buzz become friends quickly.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 14, 2013, 01:17:21 PM
According to the Blue and Gold website, last year was a record breaking year in terms of fundraising.

http://www.gomarquette.com/bluegold-fund/about-bgf-goals.html


I'm trying to reconcile this with Forgetful's comments about fundraising being extremely poor if they had a record year.   ?-(
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: GGGG on December 14, 2013, 01:19:36 PM
B&G is a specific fund for a specific purpose.  My understanding is that the fundraising issues were due to a couple of major donors who annually write checks to help the athletic department who didn't write those checks this year...or wrote them for a lesser amount.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Eldon on December 14, 2013, 01:44:43 PM
According to the Blue and Gold website, last year was a record breaking year in terms of fundraising.

http://www.gomarquette.com/bluegold-fund/about-bgf-goals.html


I'm trying to reconcile this with Forgetful's comments about fundraising being extremely poor if they had a record year.   ?-(

Specific fund or not, the funds are fungible.

Maybe it was a record year historically, but still short of expecations/projections.  Just throwing it out there.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 14, 2013, 02:00:07 PM
Specific fund or not, the funds are fungible.

Maybe it was a record year historically, but still short of expectations/projections.  Just throwing it out there.

According to the goals, it appears they hit and exceeded their goals.

The goal was $3.7M per last year's site  http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/blue-gold/spec-rel/061110aag.html

They actually raised $3.99M per the current site at B&G





Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: muwarrior69 on December 14, 2013, 02:54:52 PM
So does this mean Malek Harris will be given a second chance and sign in the spring?

Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: chren21 on December 14, 2013, 05:09:37 PM
B&G is a specific fund for a specific purpose.  My understanding is that the fundraising issues were due to a couple of major donors who annually write checks to help the athletic department who didn't write those checks this year...or wrote them for a lesser amount.

Yes. Rumor that one of the biggest donors refused to give his huge check specifically because of LW.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: keefe on December 14, 2013, 05:11:19 PM
Yes. Rumor that one of the biggest donors refused to give his huge check specifically because of LW.

Chico? Satellite Monopoly Money?
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Goose on December 14, 2013, 05:13:01 PM
Strong possibility that money was held back.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: keefe on December 14, 2013, 05:15:06 PM
Strong possibility that money was held back.

What a Dick!
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: We R Final Four on December 14, 2013, 05:22:32 PM
Strong possibility that money was held back.

That's a very strong statement.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 14, 2013, 05:36:50 PM
Strength in numbers, a'ina?
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 14, 2013, 05:48:43 PM
According to the goals, it appears they hit and exceeded their goals.

The goal was $3.7M per last year's site  http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/blue-gold/spec-rel/061110aag.html

They actually raised $3.99M per the current site at B&G


And driven by the B&G fee increase per seat, and the new student donation plan for alumni points, not the seven figure donors.  And adding men's and women's lacrosse on the cost side.
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: 77ncaachamps on December 14, 2013, 09:57:52 PM
I found it most interesting that Buzz was shocked by his announcement of resignation on Friday.

I guess it blindsided him too.




Or did it? (for the conspiracists out there)
Title: Re: Larry Williams Resigns
Post by: Newsdreams on December 14, 2013, 10:17:53 PM
I found it most interesting that Buzz was shocked by his announcement of resignation on Friday.

I guess it blindsided him too.




Or did it? (for the conspiracists out there)
It was his ultimate revenge on Buzz leaving without letting him know