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So the only way you can be considered an NBA talent is if teams trade up to draft you?People keep acting like its 15-20 years ago when if you declared and didn't get drafted, that your odds were really long ever making it to the Show. That is simply not the case any longer. The NBA has done a lot better with player development over the last decade. Dedicated G-League teams, two way contracts, expanded rosters, etc. all are ways that players can develop without being in college.I would love to have Dawson back, but I doubt he is here next year.
In the end he may be a player in the 71-100 range and will be told he won’t be drafted or picked for the elite developmental squad. One more year of college could change that tremendously. But your right, there are many other ways to skin a cat these days with two way contracts and the normal g-league invites.I’m still holding sliver of hope he returns and makes Shakas first year a little more smooth.
Yeah, I mean he COULD come back and develop in college if that is what he is advised to do. But I look at the list the genious expert just posted...and I am not confident.I think once you expose yourself to the possibility, it is tough to go back.
Garcia is the second player today, along with Morsell, that some Scoopers are saying doesn't "move the needle" much. And now that I think about it, I believe some said the same about DJ when he decided to leave.I guess the MU needle is so stubborn it's difficult to move it.Garcia was a burger boy who led all BEast freshmen in scoring and rebounding despite playing under The Worst Coach In College Basketball History. LOTS of college athletes get a LOT better between their freshman and sophomore seasons. I'd sure as hell like to see how he moves the needle for us this coming season. And I'm not sure how it could be spun as anything but a bad loss for the program if he goes. The program will survive. It's bigger than one player. But him leaving would not be a good thing, so I'm sorry to hear what TAMU just said.
Is there a list posted somewhere of invitees?
I was curious so here's what happened with each of the NCAA Freshman who were invited to the combine the last 2 years. 44 Total Invites. 31 Drafted8 GLeague 5 Back to NCAA
Well damn...you and your so-called "facts" and "recent historical data" just bummed me out.
This team is going to stink next year if Dawson leaves. Shaka hasn’t brought in any players better than him or DJ. People here dismissing Dawson as no big loss must know more than NBA people
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.
Losing Dawson takes this team from top 80ish to a top 125ish. Still bad either way, but no Dawson removes all chances of a respectable season.
80ish and at least we may have an NIT to look at which I'd take over Wojo's first year.
Jonathan Givony@DraftExpressEvery NBA team submitted votes for 70 players for the NBA Combine and G League Elite Camp today. Around 100 players will be invited after the tally count to participate in one of the two camps. With the Combine dates pushed back a month, expect quite a few int'l players to attendhttps://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1400903980969041923There are 355 NBA Draft entrants so far and Garcia was one of 100 invited to the combine. 60 of those will get drafted. I think it's pretty safe to say he's an NBA talent.
I don't get it. There are only 30 NBA teams. And most of them are already loaded with talent. There's not much room to take college drop outs.
Just not having Wojo makes us better, though - Dawson or no Dawson. I was also chagrined by the stats the genius posted, but still feel better than the last few years - now there is hope.
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold. He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.
If you thought you were a year away from being top 30 why wouldn't you go now, play against better competition in the G-League vs college, get paid, be able to focus on you game full time, and not have to deal with school? I don't know what's being said to DG, but I can certainly understand the reasons for leaving, even if he doesn't get drafted.
Both Garcia and Carton are most likely going to spend the next season or two well off NBA radar. The question they have to ask is will they find places for development that exceed the program Shaka is putting together. Given that Shaka competes with NCAA time regulations and academic requirements, they might very well. There are a lot of ways to skin this cat and there are a number of situations better than college for development. The key is to get your self into one of those. It is easy to dismiss "college" but I would argue Shaka + Big East competition is a solid way to improve.
Theres a massive difference in being drafted in the first round, vs. second, or not even being drafted. Henry got set for life with a $5M contract. Now he is fumblingaround, but he should have $3M in the bank at 24 or so. Not bad.
Carton signed with an agent, so he has no return path to MU.