2018 Grad Transfer Thread, Updated 4/19/2018

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Kingsby is rated #26 by JUCO recruiting. His stats don't impress me that much: 12.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 4.0 apg, 0.8 spg, 0.1 bpg, 2.3 tpg, 54.4 eFG%. Haven't seen him play but I would expect a JUCO with those numbers to probably be a backup for us next season. Is there something about his game you like?

Haven't seen him play. Just answering who the mystery player is that Ted Baxter was alluding to.

[TedBaxter]

Kingsby is rated #26 by JUCO recruiting. His stats don't impress me that much: 12.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 4.0 apg, 0.8 spg, 0.1 bpg, 2.3 tpg, 54.4 eFG%. Haven't seen him play but I would expect a JUCO with those numbers to probably be a backup for us next season. Is there something about his game you like?

The staff could just as easily keeps tab by watching the live stream from Hutchinson this week, especially through Tuesday.

First of all I'm not necessarily advocating an offer because I don't know if Kingsby's classes will all transfer to MU, so it might be a waste to even mention him I guess.  I'm just saying even though I would prefer a grad transfer, the JUCO route may be the best option because the grad transfer route is very tough to nail down.  When Ryan Taylor of Evansville announced he would grad transfer, at least 10 HM schools contacted him the first day.

Kingsby comes off the bench for Southern Idaho and is shooting 47% from the field, 40% from 3 and 78% from the line.  I realize I've been following JUCO ball for a long time and stats are hard to gauge because they play more players.  The stats in this paragraph are very good for a JUCO prospect and I also go by video and linked one in below.  Kingsby also scored 22 and 25 points in the district semifinal and final. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OQ7--8RnSY

The first JUCO recruit I brought up on message boards after Haanif left the team was Indian Hills Shane Gatling who played a year at Niagara before opting to go to Indian Hills.  District player on the year for the 33-0 #1 ranked team in NJCAA D1.  He was a qualifier, obviously, so the academic questions aren't as huge.  Would have played behind MAAC Player of the Year Kahlil Dukes and another guard was an all-conference choice at Niagara this year.

http://indianhills.prestosports.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/bios/gatling_shane_kzf1

I don't expect the recruit this spring will be a starter.

[Silkk the Shaka]

The staff could just as easily keeps tab by watching the live stream from Hutchinson this week, especially through Tuesday.

First of all I'm not necessarily advocating an offer because I don't know if Kingsby's classes will all transfer to MU, so it might be a waste to even mention him I guess.  I'm just saying even though I would prefer a grad transfer, the JUCO route may be the best option because the grad transfer route is very tough to nail down.  When Ryan Taylor of Evansville announced he would grad transfer, at least 10 HM schools contacted him the first day.

Kingsby comes off the bench for Southern Idaho and is shooting 47% from the field, 40% from 3 and 78% from the line.  I realize I've been following JUCO ball for a long time and stats are hard to gauge because they play more players.  The stats in this paragraph are very good for a JUCO prospect and I also go by video and linked one in below.  Kingsby also scored 22 and 25 points in the district semifinal and final. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OQ7--8RnSY

The first JUCO recruit I brought up on message boards after Haanif left the team was Indian Hills Shane Gatling who played a year at Niagara before opting to go to Indian Hills.  District player on the year for the 33-0 #1 ranked team in NJCAA D1.  He was a qualifier, obviously, so the academic questions aren't as huge.  Would have played behind MAAC Player of the Year Kahlil Dukes and another guard was an all-conference choice at Niagara this year.

http://indianhills.prestosports.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/bios/gatling_shane_kzf1

I don't expect the recruit this spring will be a starter.

Interesting, would not be opposed to adding a JUCO guy at all. Does Wojo have any connections?

[Litehouse]

Juco that's willing to be a solid back-up would be a decent option.  Any grad-transfer is going to want significant minutes.

[jsglow]

Juco that's willing to be a solid back-up would be a decent option.  Any grad-transfer is going to want significant minutes.

Agreed.  And I don't know how the 'grad transfer recruiting network' works but I think several will eyeball the MU situation and be very intrigued.

[TedBaxter]

Agreed.  And I don't know how the 'grad transfer recruiting network' works but I think several will eyeball the MU situation and be very intrigued.

As of the timing of this post, Ryan Taylor is the only big name guard option.  We might hear of some more in the next couple weeks after the coaching jobs are filled and with the tournaments concluding.

[Pakuni]

As of the timing of this post, Ryan Taylor is the only big name guard option.  We might hear of some more in the next couple weeks after the coaching jobs are filled and with the tournaments concluding.

Yeah, but Taylor is more of a wing, where MU should be loaded next year (Sam, Sacar, Bailey, Cain, Elliott). Doesn't fill any needs here.

[brewcity77]

Yeah, but Taylor more of a wing, where MU should be loaded next year (Sam, Sacar, Bailey, Cain, Elliott). Doesn't fill any needs here.

+1

Taylor is super high usage. Led the nation in percent of shots taken. Reminds me of a James Daniel type who did virtually nothing at Tennessee.

[MU82]

At this late stage, it would be silly to add anybody for next season other than a PG who can handle, distribute and play D. If he can make FTs and hit the occasional jumper, that would be preferable.

In other words, I'm repeateing what folks (including me) have been saying for weeks.

[Marcus92]

Super high usage and a pretty inefficient offensive player, with an ORtg of just 98.8 according to KenPom.com. No thank you.

[TedBaxter]

Yeah, but Taylor is more of a wing, where MU should be loaded next year (Sam, Sacar, Bailey, Cain, Elliott). Doesn't fill any needs here.

Correct and Marquette wasn't listed in the Tweet as a school that has contacted him. 

[PistolBrad]

What do we think of this Fordham grad transfer PG?  He is big (6’3”), has a very high assist rate, and was 2nd in the country in steal percentage.  His offensive rating around 95 is not great but honestly on marquette, with a lighter workload, I’d imagine that going up substantially

[GGGG]

What do we think of this Fordham grad transfer PG?  He is big (6’3”), has a very high assist rate, and was 2nd in the country in steal percentage.  His offensive rating around 95 is not great but honestly on marquette, with a lighter workload, I’d imagine that going up substantially

Perris Hicks.  Seemed to struggle as a back up PG for Fordham.

[Marcus92]

I'm leery about a grad transfer from a program ranked 293rd in the country. That's about 100 spots lower than UNC-Asheville, where Rowsey transferred from.

[brewcity77]

Perris Hicks.  Seemed to struggle as a back up PG for Fordham.

He's talking about Joseph Chartouny. Relatively low usage PG who was top-100 in assist rate all three years. Not sure how his defense is, but he's been 1st or 2nd nationally in steal rate the last two years. Not a great shooter, but excellent rebounder for his size. Hesitant on mid majors, but might be worth a look.

[GGGG]

Oh him.  That makes a lot more sense.  Thanks!

[MU82]

He's talking about Joseph Chartouny. Relatively low usage PG who was top-100 in assist rate all three years. Not sure how his defense is, but he's been 1st or 2nd nationally in steal rate the last two years. Not a great shooter, but excellent rebounder for his size. Hesitant on mid majors, but might be worth a look.

in 2016-17, he shot .415-.382-.759. This past season, he was down pretty significantly in all three categories (.371-.284-.697). He took roughly the same number of shots (less than 1 per game more, though a lot more FTs), but maybe he had to take more difficult shots this season.

He did shoot nearly 40% from 3 the previous year - and that was on nearly 5 attempts per game - so it's not like he's never been a decent shooter.

5.6 reb, 4.6 asst, 3.3 stl. And though he averaged 2.4 TO, that was down from 2.9 each of first two years.

6-3, 205, so not tiny and not skinny. Workhorse - averaged 36 mins this past year.

Sucked in most games against decent teams in the first 2/3 of the season, though he did have decent numbers against West Virginia. Over last 9 games, averaged 15 pts on .398 shooting (.350 on 3s), with 5.3 reb, 5.3 asst, 3 stl and only 1.9 TO. Really nice games vs. Davidson, VCU and Dayton in that stretch, which also was interrupted by an injury that cost him 2 games.

Just based on stats, definitely seems worth looking into.

[BM1090]

Apparently he is an excellent defender

[Tha Hound]

Rob Dauster
@RobDauster
Chartouny is a really good player. A terrific defender. He is going to help someone.


A 6'3 pass first point guard that averaged 5.6 rebounds and plays great defense. Can't find much of a better fit than that.

[MU82]

Mr. Chartouny, how would you like to go to the Final Four?

We have an elite shooter at the 2, a do-everything 3 who will play in the NBA, a beast of a rebounder at the 4, one of the best incoming freshmen in the country at 3/4 (and 5 if we go small), several slashing wings with tremendous potential, and a couple of hard-working centers.

Come on out to play in the brand spankin' new Greek Freak Arena, and live your basketball dreams, baby! (P.S.: The Freak says he really likes your game!)

[KampusFoods]

Easy to pay him a visit once they're out in NYC next week.

[wadesworld]

He sounds perfect to me.

Honestly I’ll if no “sure fire” point guards come to MU I hope Wojo would take a flier on a lesser grad transfer PG for depth. One year rental, scholarship opens back up after next season anyway. Little risk.

[MU82]

All we need is BD to tell us to start changing our screen names.

[PGsHeroes32]

As long as we pound it into his head he’s not here to take a lot of shots

[GGGG]

As long as we pound it into his head he’s not here to take a lot of shots

That sounds like a great way to recruit someone.