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Author Topic: Crean vs Buzz vs Wojo vs Shaka  (Read 7534 times)

brewcity77

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Re: Crean vs Buzz vs Wojo vs Shaka
« Reply #125 on: May 07, 2024, 11:31:29 PM »
Ners, the smartest thing you did in this discussion was exiting it. Are you just that desperate for a new stupid losing argument to support?
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Re: Crean vs Buzz vs Wojo vs Shaka
« Reply #126 on: Today at 09:27:24 AM »
Ners, the smartest thing you did in this discussion was exiting it. Are you just that desperate for a new stupid losing argument to support?

Not nearly as much as you are.  I do applaud you though for after 5 years incessant of Pro-joing, you finally did come around and support the winning argument I'd made 10 games into Wojo.  Try to learn to let something go.  Take your L and carry on to your next dumb argument, like how much the MU Athletic department marketing department sucks. 

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Re: Crean vs Buzz vs Wojo vs Shaka
« Reply #127 on: Today at 09:30:40 AM »
Ners, the second year cupboard was not "EMPTY." That's just a basic fact.
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Re: Crean vs Buzz vs Wojo vs Shaka
« Reply #128 on: Today at 10:36:59 AM »
Not nearly as much as you are.  I do applaud you though for after 5 years incessant of Pro-joing, you finally did come around and support the winning argument I'd made 10 games into Wojo.  Try to learn to let something go.  Take your L and carry on to your next dumb argument, like how much the MU Athletic department marketing department sucks.

Aside from the simple reality that how empty the cupboard is in the second year being an idiotic debate, it's not true.

Lazar Hayward, a top-10 scorer in program history, was still there.

Two rotation guards, Acker and Cubillian, were still there.

Scott Christopherson was already there, but was encouraged by Buzz to leave.

Incoming players Chris Otule and Joe Fulce were already committed.

Incoming freshmen Nick Williams and Tyshawn Taylor were committed, but were not retained.

2009 freshman Erik Williams was already committed.

So 9/13 scholarships were filled for the second year when Crean left. Buzz would go on to add DJO, Buycks, Butler, Cadougan, Maymon, and Mbao, while running off Christopherson and losing Williams and Taylor. Having 15 months to fill 4 scholarships is hardly an empty cupboard. It just isn't.

The only reason anyone could argue the cupboard was bare is because Buzz either tried to run off or couldn't retain 5/9 players who were expected to be on scholarship for 2009-10. Which is an absolutely crazy bonkers wild thing to blame on Crean.

I'm not saying anyone has to like Crean, I'm not saying Buzz didn't do a fantastic coaching job that year. But calling the cupboard bare for year two is both a dumb thing to try to argue and also an outright fiction.
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