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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Detfan23 on March 25, 2013, 11:44:07 AM
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And guess what we will hear next? You bet, Buzz is leaving for Minnesota ;D
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Buzz doesn't think Milwaukee is cold enough?
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Jeez, that Minnesota-UCLA game must have been a pisser - talk about a no-win situation.
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Amazing that making the tourney or even winning the conference isn't good enough any more.
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Bo Ryan to Minnesota.
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Where did you find this at?
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Minnesota thinks they'll do better than Tubby?
Short memories they've got up there.
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Amazing that making the tourney or even winning the conference isn't good enough any more.
To be fair, everything was set up for this to be Tubby's year this year. They massively under-performed.
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From Jeff Goodman's story on cbssports.com
Expect Teague to take a shot at persuading Smart to rejoin him, but it's a longshot. Also expect names such as former Minnesota Timberwolves coach Flip Saunders to be tossed around, but I'd be surprised if these guys don't delve into the coaching ranks. Remember, the Teague-Ellis duo is as familiar with college coaches as any administrative duo in the nation after starting up the Villa 7 years ago. Look for these guys to also see if Marquette coach Buzz Williams, who was involved with Villa 7, is interested in making a move.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21948116/tubby-smith-out-at-minnesota
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what's the "Villa 7"?
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what's the "Villa 7"?
http://www.sportleadership.vcu.edu/villa7/
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I just had to google that one. Never heard of it.
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what's the "Villa 7"?
It's an organization for the development of coaches, largely focusing on the mid-major ranks, that Teague helped start while he was the AD at VCU.
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Villa 7 was brought up here before. Buzz got his UNO job almost as a direct result.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=26159.0
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Buzz doesn't think Milwaukee is cold enough?
This is an interesting opening. Big 10 vs NBE. While Minn is certainly not a better program than MU, the question is does Buzz want to compete in the NBE or the Big 10. Buzz has said very little about the NBE. This to me is much more probable than Buzz to UCLA.
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Sorry I call bullcrap Minnesota???? are you freaking crazy? Why would Buzz go there? this is just crazy. I think in the end like any other coach Buzz doesn't mind all of these offseason rumors and am willing to bet he uses this all to get another new contract deal.
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I'll ask and then duck ....
The former coach took a lot of heat (deservedly) every time a media member viewed as friendly toward him, i.e. Katz, DeCourcy, floated his name for a job because it was seen as shameless self-promotion.
Goodman and others we think are tight with Buzz are incessantly floating his name out there seemingly every time a job comes open, whether it be Oklahoma, A&M, SMU and now UCLA and Minnesota.
At what point do we start asking what's Buzz's role in all this?
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IM, IM?
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Sorry I call bullcrap Minnesota???? are you freaking crazy? Why would Buzz go there? this is just crazy. I think in the end like any other coach Buzz doesn't mind all of these offseason rumors and am willing to bet he uses this all to get another new contract deal.
If Buzz goes to Minnesota, it means he was very, very unhappy at MU.
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I'll ask and then duck ....
The former coach took a lot of heat (deservedly) every time a media member viewed as friendly toward him, i.e. Katz, DeCourcy, floated his name for a job because it was seen as shameless self-promotion.
Goodman and others we think are tight with Buzz are incessantly floating his name out there seemingly every time a job comes open, whether it be Oklahoma, A&M, SMU and now UCLA and Minnesota.
At what point do we start asking what's Buzz's role in all this?
Yea, I might have brought that up last season as well.
I don't really have a good answer.
Personally, I never critiqued TC for it, and I won't critique Buzz for it either. I figure that's just the way it goes.
It would be very cool for Buzz to come out and put the "rumors" to rest, but I don't expect him to address every rumor that comes up. He's got bigger fish to fry.
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This is exactly what is happening.
I'll ask and then duck ....
The former coach took a lot of heat (deservedly) every time a media member viewed as friendly toward him, i.e. Katz, DeCourcy, floated his name for a job because it was seen as shameless self-promotion.
Goodman and others we think are tight with Buzz are incessantly floating his name out there seemingly every time a job comes open, whether it be Oklahoma, A&M, SMU and now UCLA and Minnesota.
At what point do we start asking what's Buzz's role in all this?
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Yea, I might have brought that up last season as well.
I don't really have a good answer.
Personally, I never critiqued TC for it, and I won't critique Buzz for it either. I figure that's just the way it goes.
It would be very cool for Buzz to come out and put the "rumors" to rest, but I don't expect him to address every rumor that comes up. He's got bigger fish to fry.
Agree. He has very little to gain by publicly addressing the rumors.
On the other hand, if he is tight with Goodman, et al. - and for all I know he isn't - he could probably tell these guys off the record to knock it off if he wanted.
But there's a benefit, whether he wants out or not, to having his name out there.
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Could we potentially consolidate these into a 'coaching carousel' thread? Probably others yet to come.
Interesting situation with two big opening (though one significantly bigger than the other), and two high profile coaches who I would necessarily call old now on the market. What are the chances that Boeheim calls it quits? That would make things very interesting.
If you're USC's AD and looking for a coach, aren't you already negotiating Howlands contract?
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Obviously everything is just a rumor right now, but sources are saying that an unnamed coach has already verbally accepted the Gophers job. Which means almost definitely not Buzz. My money is on Flip Saunders.
http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/boards/showthread.php?45538-Tubby-is-out-who-will-be-the-next-coach&s=11b2fe9082ce73428a34b2f83bbbeadc (http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/boards/showthread.php?45538-Tubby-is-out-who-will-be-the-next-coach&s=11b2fe9082ce73428a34b2f83bbbeadc)
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I'll ask and then duck ....
The former coach took a lot of heat (deservedly) every time a media member viewed as friendly toward him, i.e. Katz, DeCourcy, floated his name for a job because it was seen as shameless self-promotion.
Goodman and others we think are tight with Buzz are incessantly floating his name out there seemingly every time a job comes open, whether it be Oklahoma, A&M, SMU and now UCLA and Minnesota.
At what point do we start asking what's Buzz's role in all this?
I've always found Parrish and Goodman's comments on the LW rift interesting. Buzz could easily give those guys a call or hell even text them to knock it off with the AD problems storyline. He could put that whole narrative to bed real fast.
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Or maybe not: Dan Barreiro @DanBarreiroKFAN If there is indeed already a verbal agreement in place for replacement, it is NOT Flip Saunders
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I've always found Parrish and Goodman's comments on the LW rift interesting. Buzz could easily give those guys a call or hell even text them to knock it off with the AD problems storyline. He could put that whole narrative to bed real fast.
The narrative is message board banter only. GP and JG have to put Buzz's name down and always will regardless of what Buzz says.
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If Buzz goes to Minnesota, it means he was very, very unhappy at MU.
Perhap, or he is not thrilled with NBE. I know folks here will go nuts about how much the B 10 sucks, but it is a higher profile conference, like it or not. Never know what motivates someone.
I find it curious his name keeps popping up. Some of this is drivel, but he is friendly with a couple of the guys and he could easily stop the name drop by sending a text saying knock it off.
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Wait...these people *want* Flip Saunders coaching up there??? What?
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Obviously everything is just a rumor right now, but sources are saying that an unnamed coach has already verbally accepted the Gophers job. Which means almost definitely not Buzz. My money is on Flip Saunders.
http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/boards/showthread.php?45538-Tubby-is-out-who-will-be-the-next-coach&s=11b2fe9082ce73428a34b2f83bbbeadc (http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/boards/showthread.php?45538-Tubby-is-out-who-will-be-the-next-coach&s=11b2fe9082ce73428a34b2f83bbbeadc)
A Shaka shocker?
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Perhap, or he is not thrilled with NBE. I know folks here will go nuts about how much the B 10 sucks, but it is a higher profile conference, like it or not.
I don't think the conference affiliation matters much. I mean, why should it? If MU can pay the $$, provide the resources for support, attract the recruits, etc. it is arguably a better overall job than Minnesota.
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Agree. He has very little to gain by publicly addressing the rumors.
On the other hand, if he is tight with Goodman, et al. - and for all I know he isn't - he could probably tell these guys off the record to knock it off if he wanted.
But there's a benefit, whether he wants out or not, to having his name out there.
Very little to gain through addressing rumors is absolutely right. He probably has more to lose than any potential gain.
Think of it this way. If he addresses one rumor, he must address them all. Issuing a public denial of one rumor and not another would be seen by many to legitimize the unaddressed rumor. Given the frequency with which his name surfaces for these openings, he simply cannot specifically address any of them.
In addition, making a public statement saying that he is not going anywhere eliminates a lot of leverage he would have to get a longer or more lucrative contract. It also sets him up to appear dishonest if he were to go somewhere else.
Simply my own opinion, but I would be floored if Buzz left for either the UCLA or especially the.Minnesota jobs.
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The narrative is message board banter only. GP and JG have to put Buzz's name down and always will regardless of what Buzz says.
Those two have used Larry Williams as a reason Buzz would leave MU multiple times. Most recently in the article yesterday.
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I don't think the conference affiliation matters much. I mean, why should it? If MU can pay the $$, provide the resources for support, attract the recruits, etc. it is arguably a better overall job than Minnesota.
Agree/disagree. Purely from a coach standpoint, I don't think it matters.
I do think it matters to recruits, and selling recruits something that's not the best could alter a coach's standpoint.
However, twitter tracker
Duane Wilson @Real_DWilson1 22 Mar
I like Creighton. That was a great addition to our new conference. I can't wait for the New Big East. #Catholic10
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I don't think the conference affiliation matters much. I mean, why should it? If MU can pay the $$, provide the resources for support, attract the recruits, etc. it is arguably a better overall job than Minnesota.
For right now, yes.
But, given the ever-changing landscape, any B10 job might be better than a NBE job in a handful of years.
I don't think that is going to happen... but football $ is so insane right now, I don't know WTF is going to happen.
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Little do you all know, Buzz is actually going to coach both UCLA and Minnesota next year. I know it's true, Michael Hunt told me.
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Those two have used Larry Williams as a reason Buzz would leave MU multiple times. Most recently in the article yesterday.
If Buzz comes out after the NCAA tournament and says "I'm here as long as they'll have me" again, his name will still get floated come Spring of 2014.
The writers have to include names, and they have to include the good, young coaches.
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Those two have used Larry Williams as a reason Buzz would leave MU multiple times. Most recently in the article yesterday.
Something being repeated multiple times does not necessarily make it fact. Keep this in mind when reading rumors from national sources.
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Wait...these people *want* Flip Saunders coaching up there??? What?
In coaching circles, Flip is considered to be an offensive genius. And, he's the best coach in TWolves history.
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Sorry I call bullcrap Minnesota???? are you freaking crazy? Why would Buzz go there? this is just crazy. I think in the end like any other coach Buzz doesn't mind all of these offseason rumors and am willing to bet he uses this all to get another new contract deal.
Almost as crazy as leaving Kentucky for Minnesota.
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Almost as crazy as leaving Kentucky for Minnesota.
Buzz isn't beating wolves to the door like Smith was.
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If Buzz comes out after the NCAA tournament and says "I'm here as long as they'll have me" again, his name will still get floated come Spring of 2014.
The writers have to include names, and they have to include the good, young coaches.
True.
But if Goodman were to receive a text from Buzz saying "stop mentioning me as a UCLA candidate. I'm not interested," then his name would no longer be floated. That apparently hasn't happened.
FWIW, I'm not suggesting Buzz is under any obligation to send such a text, even if he weren't interested. There's a lot to be gained for him by having his name out there. But as a fan, it's annoying as heck to go through this every year.
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Something being repeated multiple times does not necessarily make it fact. Keep this in mind when reading rumors from national sources.
I'm not saying whether or not it's true, I'm just saying that Buzz could easily have those guys drop the notion that he is unhappy with his AD. Then again, maybe he doesn't want them to. That's why I find it interesting.
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Almost as crazy as leaving Kentucky for Minnesota.
If you believe Buzz's situation here and Tubby's situation at the end of his UK tenure are analogous, then I have some land I would like to sell you.
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Buzz isn't beating wolves to the door like Smith was.
Yep. That was a George Costanza preemptive break up.
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Yea, I might have brought that up last season as well.
I don't really have a good answer.
Personally, I never critiqued TC for it, and I won't critique Buzz for it either. I figure that's just the way it goes.
It would be very cool for Buzz to come out and put the "rumors" to rest, but I don't expect him to address every rumor that comes up. He's got bigger fish to fry.
I'll say the same thing when it came up regarding Crean--it's the sports writers job to speculate on who's going to fill an opening. When you're successful (as Crean was and Buzz is), their names will be mentioned with any high profile opening.
Buzz isn't setting anyone up to make these statements, and no matter how many denials he issues, he can't stop them, either.
More troubling than the rumors themselves is the fact that at least some in the sports media currently view a mid-tier Big Ten program as a step up from one of the two best teams in the new Big East.
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I couldn't see Buzz at UCLA or Minnesota.
Shaka at Minnesota? Sure. HERE's why (http://latenighthoops.com/shaka-mn-carousel/).
Tubby's time at Minnesota has been brutal. Beating a broken UCLA team didn't do anything to help his cause - it's been six years of disappointment and ... issues.
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More troubling than the rumors themselves is the fact that at least some in the sports media currently view a mid-tier Big Ten program as a step up from one of the two best teams in the new Big East.
I sort of agree... but there are a lot of media members who are idiots when it comes to this stuff.
Several media members last year had no idea that Buzz made so much money at MU. They thought OK would just come in and buy him out. They seemed shocked at how much MU actually pays him.
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Perhap, or he is not thrilled with NBE. I know folks here will go nuts about how much the B 10 sucks, but it is a higher profile conference, like it or not. Never know what motivates someone.
I find it curious his name keeps popping up. Some of this is drivel, but he is friendly with a couple of the guys and he could easily stop the name drop by sending a text saying knock it off.
A coach who has success at MU will always have his name brought up with the next big job.
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A coach who has success at MU will always have his name brought up with the next big job.
Not always...
If a coach stays long enough and turns enough jobs down. IE Mark Few, it will change. But it will take time.
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Bo Ryan to Minnesota.
Will never happen. After all, Bo has that pension waiting for him. ::)
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Not always...
If a coach stays long enough and turns enough jobs down. IE Mark Few, it will change. But it will take time.
Few was linked to Oregon and Arizona recently.
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I sort of agree... but there are a lot of media members who are idiots when it comes to this stuff.
Several media members last year had no idea that Buzz made so much money at MU. They thought OK would just come in and buy him out. They seemed shocked at how much MU actually pays him.
You are correct. Not only is the intellectual heft of many national media members not what they would have you believe it is, but neither is the drive to actually obtain correct information from which an accurate story can be based. I believe a pervasive attitude is that if one guy reports something, it must be true.
That is why Rosiak was such a valuable source of information when he was on the beat. He.knew what he was talking about, and did the work to get the story correct.
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CBS guys at it again.
Buzz is going to be a busy man next year trying to coach both Minnesota and UCLA.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21948273/coaching-predictions-who-replaces-tubby-smith-at-minnesota
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Eventually we'll learn to ignore the little boys that cry wolf
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CBS guys at it again.
Buzz is going to be a busy man next year trying to coach both Minnesota and UCLA.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21948273/coaching-predictions-who-replaces-tubby-smith-at-minnesota
Realistic -- yes it could happen. Will it? No and CBS agrees with that...
Funny though, that article sounds no different than Scoop.
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Funny though, that article sounds no different than Scoop.
That's because "journalism" in the age of twitter requires nothing. All you need to do is make some stuff up, toss a vague "sources say" in there, put it on twitter, and voila, story.
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Gary Parrish and Goodman are a couple of tin-foilers.
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CBS guys at it again.
Buzz is going to be a busy man next year trying to coach both Minnesota and UCLA.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21948273/coaching-predictions-who-replaces-tubby-smith-at-minnesota
Keep in mind, everytime we click on their link, they get paid a bit more by their advertisers.
So, anyone wondering why these guys, in the age of the internet, float these flaming rumors?
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Keep in mind, everytime we click on their link, they get paid a bit more by their advertisers.
So, anyone wondering why these guys, in the age of the internet, float these flaming rumors?
They're just bleacherreport with better PR
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These guys are making Andy Katz seem tame.
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This team cant win a sweet 16 game cause it has about 900 distractions each year. This is ridiculous
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You what's pathetic??? None of us are allowed to enjoy this run, because...once again...these ugly coaching rumors are starting up.
I'm REALLY beginning to dislike college sports.
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This team cant win a sweet 16 game cause it has about 900 distractions each year. This is ridiculous
It is ridiculous. And too hard to ignore.
LW and Pilarz needed to do a better job of keeping the direction of the program issues in house. The blood is still lingering in the water due to these media types hanging onto this. Needed to work with Buzz better, not come in with what seems like (from some of LW's quotes) a "new sheriff in town" attitude.
Hopefully the fences are mended and this presumption of discord is a year old.
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Even the majority of Twitterverse thinks Buzz to Minnesota is a step down and laughable.
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Even the majority of Twitterverse thinks Buzz to Minnesota is a step down and laughable.
Well we've got twitterverse behind us, too bad Buzz hates twitterverse. ;)
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Can somebody tell me why we do this every year. So hard to ignore. How many weeks will this take till it is over again
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Anyone hear Buzz on Van Pelt? Sounds like he addressed UCLA rumors.
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Anyone hear Buzz on Van Pelt? Sounds like he addressed UCLA rumors.
Not really. Sounded like a non-answer answer.
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Missed that interview. Would somebody post the link as soon as it is up?
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=9096515
Never mind. Here it is.
"there are peoples lives involved here. My family, my assistants.......That is why I don't participate in these discussions."
Buzz-speak for MU is getting ready for the sweet 16 against Miami and nobody in the program needs this kind of speculation.
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What's he supposed to say? Thought his answer was the correct one. Has his eye on the goal this year and his commitment to players their families and his plus MU program
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Mbakwe just got another year of eligibility
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This is an interesting opening. Big 10 vs NBE. While Minn is certainly not a better program than MU, the question is does Buzz want to compete in the NBE or the Big 10. Buzz has said very little about the NBE. This to me is much more probable than Buzz to UCLA.
This is absolute lunacy - were you thinking while you typed this?
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This is absolute lunacy - were you thinking while you typed this?
Perhaps drinking...
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Perhaps drinking...
Drinking is ALWAYS a legitimate excuse.
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Drinking is ALWAYS a legitimate excuse.
Absolutely.
And yet again, my name shows up whacked and all when I'm quoted. Anyone got answers...? ?-(
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This is an interesting opening. Big 10 vs NBE. While Minn is certainly not a better program than MU, the question is does Buzz want to compete in the NBE or the Big 10. Buzz has said very little about the NBE. This to me is much more probable than Buzz to UCLA.
Buzz to Northwestern?
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To be fair, everything was set up for this to be Tubby's year this year. They massively under-performed.
I agree. they were pretty stacked and just fell apart down the stretch.
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And yet again, my name shows up whacked and all when I'm quoted. Anyone got answers...? ?-(
giggle-captaint-giggle.
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giggle-captaint-giggle.
Yeah, it's funny. Just curious as to how it got set that way :P
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Yeah, it's funny. Just curious as to how it got set that way :P
That is weird.
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Yeah, it's funny. Just curious as to how it got set that way :P
That I can't help you with. Sorry.
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That is weird.
Yeah, I thought at first PTM was doing it manually when quoting me, but it's been every quote by every one the past couple weeks LOL.
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Nice parting gift for Tubby.
Smith’s contract comes with a $2.5 million buyout — a number that jumped from $1.5 million after he signed an extension last summer shortly after Norwood Teague took over as Minnesota’s athletic director. He also gets $150,000 for making the round of 32 this year, a $250,000 retirement contribution and three months severance (base plus supplemental salary), which totals about $450,000. That’s a total of $3.35 million.
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Nice parting gift for Tubby.
Smith’s contract comes with a $2.5 million buyout — a number that jumped from $1.5 million after he signed an extension last summer shortly after Norwood Teague took over as Minnesota’s athletic director. He also gets $150,000 for making the round of 32 this year, a $250,000 retirement contribution and three months severance (base plus supplemental salary), which totals about $450,000. That’s a total of $3.35 million.
Sounds like a retirement package to me.
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Nice parting gift for Tubby.
Smith’s contract comes with a $2.5 million buyout — a number that jumped from $1.5 million after he signed an extension last summer shortly after Norwood Teague took over as Minnesota’s athletic director. He also gets $150,000 for making the round of 32 this year, a $250,000 retirement contribution and three months severance (base plus supplemental salary), which totals about $450,000. That’s a total of $3.35 million.
Too bad you and I will have to pay for that. JayBee too.
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You what's pathetic??? None of us are allowed to enjoy this run, because...once again...these ugly coaching rumors are starting up.
I'm REALLY beginning to dislike college sports.
Interesting. I'm enjoying this run immensely.
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I would be extremely surprised if Buzz left for Minnesota. There are certain teams in conferences that are a kiss of death for coaches because they can't compete with the high end teams. Minnesota is one of them. As it relates to the Big Ten there are only a few teams which are good jobs which are Michigan, MSU, Indiana, and Illinois. The others are very challenging to compete so why leave a good job for a mediocre job even if they pay you good money. How many good coaches have gone to middle of the pack teams in XYZ conference only to be the next flop.
I would say MU is a top 25 job. You don't leave that unless you find a top 10 job. Minnesota is not a Top 25 job.
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Can all of you tinfoilers just step back, away from the edge and put on your "I'm a reasoned fan" hat for just one split effing second. Once you do that, ask yourselves a question regarding any of these rumors.
Why would Buzz go to ANY of these jobs based on his job here at MU, how much he's paid, how much he loves the kids, etc.? And if your answer is the money, well, he's paid a ton here?
And if you still say "the money", go back and watch the scene from The Fugitive when Tommy Lee Jones is asking the Chicago police why Kimble killed his wife.
"She was rich"
Jones - "So was he!"
"She was MORE rich!"
That's basically all this effing story/debacle/thread ultimately becomes. It's a joke. (and yet, here I am on page four of this lunatic-fringe....so....)
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Can all of you tinfoilers just step back, away from the edge and put on your "I'm a reasoned fan" hat for just one split effing second. Once you do that, ask yourselves a question regarding any of these rumors.
Why would Buzz go to ANY of these jobs based on his job here at MU, how much he's paid, how much he loves the kids, etc.? And if your answer is the money, well, he's paid a ton here?
And if you still say "the money", go back and watch the scene from The Fugitive when Tommy Lee Jones is asking the Chicago police why Kimble killed his wife.
"She was rich"
Jones - "So was he!"
"She was MORE rich!"
That's basically all this effing story/debacle/thread ultimately becomes. It's a joke. (and yet, here I am on page four of this lunatic-fringe....so....)
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTnUSM82OUaTpPc5y3_tFv0qbSbjewZWGJx953N7WUKJLdFDyT-6w)
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I would say MU is a top 25 job. You don't leave that unless you find a top 10 job. Minnesota is not a Top 25 job.
Or in Buzz-speak 'a good job' that he's well on the way to making into 'a great job' through his own 'momentum'. That's the part that's lost on some. His calling in life is to make men out of boys via the teaching tool that basketball provides him, not move one rung up any perceived ladder at a time in KO fashion. And I suspect that while flattered, this all gets a tad annoying to him after awhile.
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Minny is a step down from MU and would be a step in the wrong direction if Buzz is trying to get to the top. If we make a F4 run, this year or next, and Buzz starts to get a 5 star or two then he shouldn't be going anywhere.
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Can all of you tinfoilers just step back, away from the edge and put on your "I'm a reasoned fan" hat for just one split effing second. Once you do that, ask yourselves a question regarding any of these rumors.
Why would Buzz go to ANY of these jobs based on his job here at MU, how much he's paid, how much he loves the kids, etc.? And if your answer is the money, well, he's paid a ton here?
Let's start with your premise that it not about money.
Aside from money, consider the following posible reasons:
1. Because you feel its a huge challenge and you like taking on huge challenges
2. Because you feel you can't reach the next level in your current job
3. Because you feel you'll never get the same industry-wide recognition in your current job as you might if successful in the new one.
I'm not saying that any of these apply specifically to Buzz himself right now--but if one were to take off the blue-and-gold glasses, each of these could be a plausible reason why a coach in Buzz's position MIGHT consider the UCLA job.
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Yeah, I thought at first PTM was doing it manually when quoting me, but it's been every quote by every one the past couple weeks LOL.
It's because your name has a-i-n-a in it. That is changed to "aina" when you post, or in this case, quote you.
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Sorry I call bullcrap Minnesota???? are you freaking crazy? Why would Buzz go there? this is just crazy. I think in the end like any other coach Buzz doesn't mind all of these offseason rumors and am willing to bet he uses this all to get another new contract deal.
I find even the suggestion that Minnesota is a better job than Marquette insulting.
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Nice parting gift for Tubby.
Smith’s contract comes with a $2.5 million buyout — a number that jumped from $1.5 million after he signed an extension last summer shortly after Norwood Teague took over as Minnesota’s athletic director. He also gets $150,000 for making the round of 32 this year, a $250,000 retirement contribution and three months severance (base plus supplemental salary), which totals about $450,000. That’s a total of $3.35 million.
That's why I never cry for coaches who are fired. They all get a lovely parting gift.
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If Buzz goes to Minnesota, it means he was very, very unhappy at MU.
If Buzz does in fact want out of MU, he can do far better than Minnesota this off season.
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If he does want out, this will be the year. I think we all can agree that UCLA and even Minn are better jobs than SMU. He sniffed last year. Maybe that was a little posturing, who knows. If things have not improved, I would be hard pressed to believe he stays. The longer both jobs remain open the more concerned I would be if I were LW because he is going to get a ration and a half of sh## if Buzz bolts. If they have mended fences, then we all have nothing to worry about.
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Mbakwe just got another year of eligibility
Watched his final collegiate game yesterday. What a waste. Imagine if this kid stayed with McNeal, D James, Wes, and Lazar. Damn..
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Hes not going to Minnesota and why does Hunt have 4 blogs up already about Buzz possibly leaving.
Do some deep background on the SS game coming up like capsules on the players and match-ups.
Minnesota is insulting and has nowhere near the tradition and history we have.
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The longer both jobs remain open the more concerned I would be if I were LW because he is going to get a ration and a half of sh## if Buzz bolts. If they have mended fences, then we all have nothing to worry about.
It doesn't matter if BW and LW have "mended fences" as to whether or not Buzz takes another job. If UCLA comes calling, and Buzz talks to them, and ultimately takes that job, he and Larry could be bosom buddies and it wouldn't matter. Like Indiana, Duke, North Carolina, Kansas and Kentucky, UCLA is a "Top Tier" program and one that if you have a chance to get, very few turn down.
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There's so much at play here that it's impossible to know what's really going on...couple of possibilities:
1. Buzz wants to leave for a big time school and is a complete fraud.
2. Buzz wants to use his connections to have LW put in his place or fired.
3. Buzz wants his name out there in the media to improve his salary.
4. Buzz wants his name out there so when he's recruiting against a Oklahoma, UCLA, etc. he can say that he was offered that job, but would rather be at MU.
5. Buzz said he'd stay as long as MU would have him, and it pisses him off that he has to repeat himself, so he won't.
6. Buzz likes to screw with the media.
7. Buzz regrets making the "I'll stay as long as they'll have me" comment, and is now trying to place blame on LW as a reason (legit or not) to leave.
If Buzz leaves, I don't think he's any better than TC. I'm sure he'll leave with much more class, and I don't know how bad the rift with LW is, but you can't say what he says and then leave...all while preaching honesty, ethics, religion, etc. at every turn. I am skeptical of people who push religion, as so many turn out to be frauds. I hope UCLA throws the house at Buzz so we can see if he passes this test.
Someone also mentioned TC and how he never mentioned God. I remember being at a scrimmage (think it was haunted hoops) when a student had recently been shot at a house party (I believe that was the story anyhow), and he asked everyone in the stands to join hands and he said a prayer. Then stated something along the lines of how we don't have to be afraid to pray in public at a school like MU, or something on those lines as he was taking a shot at public schools. He soon thereafter left for a public school. My guess is God told him to leave the kids who made their biggest investment in life in him by choosing to come to MU to play for him.
IMO, Avid sums it up wonderfully. I put it here for anyone who didn't see it in the other thread
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Relax! We have Buzz at least until the Final Four. Enjoy
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Maybe God's test for scoop is to pass a sweet 16 week having faith in Buzz, the team, and breaking down the game instead of biting on every time CBS types a name. A few years back I emailed the newspaper journalist in Oklahoma who reported Buzz's name and he flat out told me he just wrote his name, but had no idea.
You know why MN is a bad job (I'm from there, a gopher fan, and lived there the last 4 years)? They would hire Buzz, not give him the practice facility, not give him a private jet and still expect sweet 16's every year. The state doesn't like to spend money on sports (especially now), but loves to wonder why other big ten programs are so consistently competitive. Why not just enjoy the ride as long as Buzz is here, and for once enjoy this week like it's not our last.
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A lot of guys would have to turn down the UCLA job for it to fall to Buzz. If UCLA is a job that "no one turns down," we have nothing to worry about there.
He's not leaving here to go to f'ing Minnesota. Please.
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It doesn't matter if BW and LW have "mended fences" as to whether or not Buzz takes another job. If UCLA comes calling, and Buzz talks to them, and ultimately takes that job, he and Larry could be bosom buddies and it wouldn't matter. Like Indiana, Duke, North Carolina, Kansas and Kentucky, UCLA is a "Top Tier" program and one that if you have a chance to get, very few turn down.
Really??? A lot of coaches have turned down UCLA. That's how they've ended up with Larry Farmer, Walt Hazzard, and Steve Lavin over the years.
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It doesn't matter if BW and LW have "mended fences" as to whether or not Buzz takes another job. If UCLA comes calling, and Buzz talks to them, and ultimately takes that job, he and Larry could be bosom buddies and it wouldn't matter. Like Indiana, Duke, North Carolina, Kansas and Kentucky, UCLA is a "Top Tier" program and one that if you have a chance to get, very few turn down.
A top tier program that flies Southwest for games? I don't know if they also allow the head coach to take a chartered plane for recruiting, but if they don't allow it, don't underestimate the power of it.
How many times has buzz talked about loving family? That could definitely eat into family time if he is spending so much time in an airport.
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The Saturday after MU lost in the BE tournament, he flew to Tennessee to watch JuJuan Johnson play in the HS championship game, then to New Mexico to watch John Dawson play in his championship game, and was home late that night. It makes a difference.
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I find even the suggestion that Minnesota is a better job than Marquette insulting. so laughable it's not worth considering
FIFY
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Minnesota isn't even in the same ballpark.
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"The longer both jobs remain open the more concerned I would be if I were LW because he is going to get a ration and a half of sh## if Buzz bolts. If they have mended fences, then we all have nothing to worry about."
This is the stupidity that I will refuse to read this board if Buzz leaves....
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http://www.theonion.com/video/fugitive-doctor-accuses-devlin-macgregor-of-fraud,30796/ (http://www.theonion.com/video/fugitive-doctor-accuses-devlin-macgregor-of-fraud,30796/)
Great Onion video story on topic.
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Maybe God's test for scoop is to pass a sweet 16 week having faith in Buzz, the team, and breaking down the game instead of biting on every time CBS types a name. A few years back I emailed the newspaper journalist in Oklahoma who reported Buzz's name and he flat out told me he just wrote his name, but had no idea.
You know why MN is a bad job (I'm from there, a gopher fan, and lived there the last 4 years)? They would hire Buzz, not give him the practice facility, not give him a private jet and still expect sweet 16's every year. The state doesn't like to spend money on sports (especially now), but loves to wonder why other big ten programs are so consistently competitive. Why not just enjoy the ride as long as Buzz is here, and for once enjoy this week like it's not our last.
I also have faith in Buzz. If UCLA asks and he says yes, then so be it, you can't blame the guy. Otherwise he's staying put.
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Really??? A lot of coaches have turned down UCLA. That's how they've ended up with Larry Farmer, Walt Hazzard, and Steve Lavin over the years.
That would be like saying that a lot of coaches turned down Marquette, and thats how we wound up with Hank Raymonds and Rick Majerus.
UCLA didn't "end up" with Larry Farmer, Walt Hazzard and Steve Lavin because a lot of other coaches turned them down.
They chose Larry Farmer and Walt Hazzard because they wanted to stay in the UCLA family and went with former players. Farmer was a UCLA assistant for 8 years before then made him head coach.
And you're really stretching with Steve Lavin. Steve Lavin was named interim coach based on timing--Jim Harrick was fired in early November--about the worst time to try and run a search. When Lavin took UCLA to the Elite Eight in his first year, he got the job permanently.
None of these situations were the result of wide-scale searches where other big-time coaches turned them down.
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ESPN LA lists Buzz as an Under The Radar Candidate.
But they also list Billy Donovan, Rick Pitino, John Calipari (Kentucky), Tom Izzo (Michigan State), Phil Jackson (former Lakers coach), Mike Krzyzewski (Duke), Bill Self (Kansas), Roy Williams (North Carolina) as dream hires.
I.e. the author is making crap up.
http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/ucla/post/_/id/13675/coaching-search-bring-out-the-phone-book
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The Saturday after MU lost in the BE tournament, he flew to Tennessee to watch JuJuan Johnson play in the HS championship game, then to New Mexico to watch John Dawson play in his championship game, and was home late that night. It makes a difference.
F'in A. Makes a huge difference. When you have bucks ($$, not Milwaukee) already, then it comes down to the quality of life, especially for someone like Buzz.
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That would be like saying that a lot of coaches turned down Marquette, and thats how we wound up with Hank Raymonds and Rick Majerus.
UCLA didn't "end up" with Larry Farmer, Walt Hazzard and Steve Lavin because a lot of other coaches turned them down.
They chose Larry Farmer and Walt Hazzard because they wanted to stay in the UCLA family and went with former players. Farmer was a UCLA assistant for 8 years before then made him head coach.
And you're really stretching with Steve Lavin. Steve Lavin was named interim coach based on timing--Jim Harrick was fired in early November--about the worst time to try and run a search. When Lavin took UCLA to the Elite Eight in his first year, he got the job permanently.
None of these situations were the result of wide-scale searches where other big-time coaches turned them down.
No, I'm not stretching at all. Every time the UCLA job opens up, we immediately see a dream list that includes Pitino, Calipari, Donovan, and even Coach K on a few occasions. And each time, those guys quickly say "no thanks" and we get down to more realistic options like Ben Howland. A very solid choice at the time, but hardly elite.
And why bring up MU??? This discussion is about the merits of the UCLA job.
Of course, UCLA is a plum job, but you're insane if you think every coach in America would crawl across broken glass for the opportunity to lead the Bruins. Simply not the case.
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ESPN LA lists Buzz as an Under The Radar Candidate.
But they also list Billy Donovan, Rick Pitino, John Calipari (Kentucky), Tom Izzo (Michigan State), Phil Jackson (former Lakers coach), Mike Krzyzewski (Duke), Bill Self (Kansas), Roy Williams (North Carolina) as dream hires.
I.e. the author is making crap up.
http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/ucla/post/_/id/13675/coaching-search-bring-out-the-phone-book
Holy crap that is delusional.
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And why bring up MU??? This discussion is about the merits of the UCLA job.
and here I thought this thread was about Tubby Smith getting fired in MN ?-(
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and here I thought this thread was about Tubby Smith getting fired in MN ?-(
That was so 5 pages ago.
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The Saturday after MU lost in the BE tournament, he flew to Tennessee to watch JuJuan Johnson play in the HS championship game, then to New Mexico to watch John Dawson play in his championship game, and was home late that night. It makes a difference.
Your point about having a plane at his disposal is valid. What I really like here, though, is learning that Buzz is going the extra mile for his newcomers due at MU this summer. Doesn't sound like the actions of a guy in any hurry to be leaving Milwaukee. I may be reading something into it that isn't there, but I take it as a good sign nonetheless.
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It's because your name has a-i-n-a in it. That is changed to "ain't I dim" when you post, or in this case, quote you.
So basically I have to change my nickname to stop this. Goodie.
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ESPN LA lists Buzz as an Under The Radar Candidate.
But they also list Billy Donovan, Rick Pitino, John Calipari (Kentucky), Tom Izzo (Michigan State), Phil Jackson (former Lakers coach), Mike Krzyzewski (Duke), Bill Self (Kansas), Roy Williams (North Carolina) as dream hires.
I.e. the author is making crap up.
http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/ucla/post/_/id/13675/coaching-search-bring-out-the-phone-book
Donovan's contract includes a clause that he and his agent "can not directly or indirectly explore, negotiate or discuss any employment with any other school or professional team" without the written permission of athletic director Jeremy Foley.
How would that even be enforceable?
College coaching contract discussions are the biggest guessing game. I've seen reports that Buzz makes $1m to $2.8m per year.... Rumors about TC having a MSU clause in his contract at MU....
Nobody knows this stuff! It's all guesswork! Would be nice if this was as transparent as the terms of NFL players to at least end the speculation of what is/isn't in their contracts
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Donovan's contract includes a clause that he and his agent "can not directly or indirectly explore, negotiate or discuss any employment with any other school or professional team" without the written permission of athletic director Jeremy Foley.
How would that even be enforceable?
Ummm, in court.
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Ummm, in court.
you can sign away your right to be offered employment elsewhere? Any lawyers here like to comment on that?
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Wcco sports anchor, mark rosen, just reported that Shaka is staying put and turned down offers from minn and ucla ~ which we knew. He then went on to say that marquettes head coach buzz Williams who is in the sweet 16 would be a likely target. (Probably According to All sorts of sources that he read about online (because the Internet never lies)).
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Minnesota has gone from kinda cute to downright annoying. They have no concept of their place in the college sports world. They are a bottom feeder in football and strictly middle of the pack in basketball. Heck, why not go after Pitino, Calipari, and Self? Apparently, the Gophers job is one of tops in the nation.
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That would be like saying that a lot of coaches turned down Marquette, and thats how we wound up with Hank Raymonds and Rick Majerus.
UCLA didn't "end up" wtith Larry Farmer, Walt Hazzard and Steve Lavin because a lot of other coaches turned them down.
They chose Larry Farmer and Walt Hazzard because they wanted to stay in the UCLA family and went with former players. Farmer was a UCLA assistant for 8 years before then made him head coach.
And you're really stretching with Steve Lavin. Steve Lavin was named interim coach based on timing--Jim Harrick was fired in early November--about the worst time to try and run a search. When Lavin took UCLA to the Elite Eight in his first year, he got the job permanently.
None of these situations were the result of wide-scale searches where other big-time coaches turned them down.
Shaka Smart just said no to your Bruins. Guess it's time to move on to Plan B.
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Again, as a Gophers fan, I'd be SHOCKED if Buzz even CONSIDERED the Gophers job. But it's worth pointing out that Mark Rosen keeps pushing Buzz's name. He's generally a well-connected guy, but this would be a stunner.
(No clue how to do the TWITTAAA TRACKAAAA thing.)
Mark Rosen @WCCORosen 1h
“@PHansenDUB: @WCCORosen yes I remember. Who u thinking now?” Keep hearing Buzz Williams name but its tight lipped!
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Again, as a Gophers fan, I'd be SHOCKED if Buzz even CONSIDERED the Gophers job. But it's worth pointing out that Mark Rosen keeps pushing Buzz's name. He's generally a well-connected guy, but this would be a stunner.
(No clue how to do the TWITTAAA TRACKAAAA thing.)
Mark Rosen @WCCORosen 1h
“@PHansenDUB: @WCCORosen yes I remember. Who u thinking now?” Keep hearing Buzz Williams name but its tight lipped!
Yes, Buzz wants to coach at a place with no tradition, lousy facilities, and for less money.
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Buzz isn't headed to Minnesota. LMAO
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If buzz leaves to Minnesotta it would ruin our programs in the eyes of recruits
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This is like deja vu from Illinois' search last year, only more pathetic, because Minnesota is a worse job than Illinois. Hopefully their 10th pick works out as well for them as John Groce did for Illinois.
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Who the heck does Minnesota think they are?
Buzz???? That is two steps down. Not a chance.
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If buzz leaves to Minnesotta it would ruin our programs in the eyes of recruits
Kenosha, go check out this thread...
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=37737.msg478537#msg478537 (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=37737.msg478537#msg478537)
That seemingly inocuous blog post by Hunt at the top of the thread is pretty much a direct quote from Buzz himself saying that he's not interested in going anywhere. He even addresses the Minnesota and UCLA jobs.
Buzz isn't going anywhere. This is as good a confirmation as you are ever going to get.
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How come assitants names never come up in these coach searches?
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How come assitants names never come up in these coach searches?
Assistant coaches rarely are offered high major head coaching jobs right away. Usually, they have to cut their teeth coaching a mid major before moving up. This is USUALLY what happens.
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I live in the Twin Cities and this is definitely the topic du jour right now. It's amazing how much some fans overvalue the Gopher job. On the radio this morning one of the local sports guys (who knows slightly less about college basketball than 90% of the posters on this board) said, I guess if we can't get Shaka Smart or Brad Stevens then we would take the Marquette guy. WTF?
I doubt he knows that Buzz Williams made more money than Tubby Smith, that MU has better facilities, that Buzz travels on a private jet, has a top 10 recruiting class coming in, and is from Texas so presumably has no interest in moving further north to coach at a school that thinks it should be top 3 in the Big Ten every year.
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How come assitants names never come up in these coach searches?
Brad Autry's name has popped up for the Texas St. job. So good luck to him and if he gets it Buzz will just bring in another gem.
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I said it earlier, but I went through security at the Milwaukee airport behind Tubby last summer when he was down here for an AAU tournament. I just kept thinking, "I can't believe they make their coach fly commercial on Delta?"
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Theres a cold front headed towards the Twin Cities basketball program/fans/media- and it's called REALITY. They wont make a splashy hire like Tubby again. Gonna get some little known, hard working coach who is eager and not top dollar. i.e. Jerry Kill. and the fans will be in an uproar....
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Also heard the "back up option" was Flip Saunders. If they can get Flip they should do it today as he would be an excellent coach.
Another name they discussed was Fred Hoiberg, I guess because he played for the Wolves. I can't imagine why Hoiberg would leave ISU for Minn.
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How come assitants names never come up in these coach searches?
Nobody knows the names of the top assistants. So the lazy sportswriters just regurgitate the names they've seen before, and if they did list the names, the uninformed readers wouldn't know who they were talking about anyway.
Flip Saunders, come on down... here's the keys to the barn and your Delta SkyMiles card.
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I think Flip would be great... but my only concern would be recruiting.
Flip is rich. Like REALLY rich. He coached in the NBA for a long time.
Does he really want to work 80 hours per week flying around the country trying to recruit 16yr olds?
It takes a unique guy to want to put in the recruiting work.
Coaching however, I think Flip would be excellent.
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Theres a cold front headed towards the Twin Cities basketball program/fans/media- and it's called REALITY. They wont make a splashy hire like Tubby again. Gonna get some little known, hard working coach who is eager and not top dollar. i.e. Jerry Kill. and the fans will be in an uproar....
I actually think this is what they need - a hard-working, energetic assistant with a great basketball mind. Pretty sure Marquette has done okay with that model before.
Or if they haven't called Ben Howland yet they should do that.
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Relax everyone (including myself).
@AmeliaRayno: Not going to be Buzz. Process happening now. RT @AmeliaRayno I already know that it's Buzz Williams. Now just waiting for them to lose.
She is the men's basketball and college hoops beat writer at the Minneapolis Star Tribune. It looks weird but she is not responding to herself, but some guy with 68 followers living in "loserville,usa"
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Relax everyone (including myself).
@AmeliaRayno: Not going to be Buzz. Process happening now. RT @AmeliaRayno I already know that it's Buzz Williams. Now just waiting for them to lose.
She is the men's basketball and college hoops beat writer at the Minneapolis Star Tribune. It looks weird but she is not responding to herself, but some guy with 68 followers living in "loserville,usa"
It looks weird because it says "it's not Buzz" and also "it's Buzz" in the same line. So what are you saying?
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It looks weird because it says "it's not Buzz" and also "it's Buzz" in the same line. So what are you saying?
She is responding to the other person's tweet via an RT. She just did it wrong and left in her handle instead of his. The guy was tweeting at her, that's why it's there. Here's his tweet that she is responding to.
Jason Frank @jasonfrank3: @AmeliaRayno I already know that it's Buzz Williams. Now just waiting for them to lose.
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Well, that does it for me, pack up this thread and send it to archives. File it in alphabetical order with the Arkansas, Illinois, NC State, Oklahoma, SMU, Texas A&M, and Texas Tech threads so we can find it again next year.
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Well, that does it for me, pack up this thread and send it to archives. File it in alphabetical order with the Arkansas, Illinois, NC State, Oklahoma, SMU, Texas A&M, and Texas Tech threads so we can find it again next year.
What about Oregon, Missouri, South Carolina, and UCLA?
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Granted, 2 days ago I posted about Buzz rumored to MN by an AP reporter but my friend is pretty connected up in MN and text me this morning stating the same thing Amelia tweeted. If this individual accepts (it's not Buzz) he'd consider it a home run hire. He claims his source is "THE source." We'll see...
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I live in the Twin Cities and this is definitely the topic du jour right now. It's amazing how much some fans overvalue the Gopher job. On the radio this morning one of the local sports guys (who knows slightly less about college basketball than 90% of the posters on this board) said, I guess if we can't get Shaka Smart or Brad Stevens then we would take the Marquette guy. WTF?
I doubt he knows that Buzz Williams made more money than Tubby Smith, that MU has better facilities, that Buzz travels on a private jet, has a top 10 recruiting class coming in, and is from Texas so presumably has no interest in moving further north to coach at a school that thinks it should be top 3 in the Big Ten every year.
Which knucklehead was that? Sid?
Seems like they've (TC media) have been throwing Buzz's name out there strictly to have some content to discuss.
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Granted, 2 days ago I posted about Buzz rumored to MN by an AP reporter but my friend is pretty connected up in MN and text me this morning stating the same thing Amelia tweeted. If this individual accepts (it's not Buzz) he'd consider it a home run hire. He claims his source is "THE source." We'll see...
Well who is the individual?
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At U of M, the pecking order is:
Ice Soccer with sticks
Hating all sports
Football
Stating that the football team is irrelevant
Basketball
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He wouldn't say, only that it wasn't Buzz. My guess would be Stevens or Hoiberg but that's purely a guess based off him considering it a "home run hire" and him stating that Katz has been all over it.
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Twin Cities local media is out of touch with the national basketball scene. While I disagree with a lot of others that Minnesota can't attract and maybe doesn't deserve a great basketball coach, Norwood Teague has been very closed mouth about who he might be seeking. He's never mentioned a name -- not Shaka, not Flip, not Buzz. All that crap just came from third class talking sports heads who are throwing out the noms du jour. That's what happens when fans are promised a first-tier coach and end up with Jerry Kill...
Being a gopher fan (alum) and MU fan (parent), I will agree with all of those who say that Buzz would NEVER leave Marquette for Minnesota.
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He wouldn't say, only that it wasn't Buzz. My guess would be Stevens or Hoiberg but that's purely a guess based off him considering it a "home run hire" and him stating that Katz has been all over it.
How can it be a home run if he hasnt coached a game for the team?
We all though buzz was a terrible hire but turned out he was a home run.
Im assuming that you mean that it is some big time name right?
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He wouldn't say, only that it wasn't Buzz. My guess would be Stevens or Hoiberg but that's purely a guess based off him considering it a "home run hire" and him stating that Katz has been all over it.
I can help here. It isn't Brad Stevens.
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Twin Cities local media is out of touch with the national basketball scene. While I disagree with a lot of others that Minnesota can't attract and maybe doesn't deserve a great basketball coach, Norwood Teague has been very closed mouth about who he might be seeking. He's never mentioned a name -- not Shaka, not Flip, not Buzz. All that crap just came from third class talking sports heads who are throwing out the noms du jour. That's what happens when fans are promised a first-tier coach and end up with Jerry Kill...
Being a gopher fan (alum) and MU fan (parent), I will agree with all of those who say that Buzz would NEVER leave Marquette for Minnesota.
Spot on.
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I can help here. It isn't Brad Stevens.
Beat me too it, and very well done.
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This pertains to the UCLA job, not Minnesota. Kareem Abdul-Jabaar says he's very interested in the UCLA job.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/basketball/la-sp-abdul-jabbar-ucla-20130328,0,4273604.story
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This pertains to the UCLA job, not Minnesota. Kareem Abdul-Jabaar says he's very interested in the UCLA job.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/basketball/la-sp-abdul-jabbar-ucla-20130328,0,4273604.story
Only if he does a backflip into a courtside pool before every home game.
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The Hoiberg news has leaked...sounds like he's 50/50 on taking it. Will the lure of landing Vaughn, Reid and possibly Jones make his decision easier?
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The Hoiberg news has leaked...sounds like he's 50/50 on taking it. Will the lure of landing Vaughn, Reid and possibly Jones make his decision easier?
Nope staying at ISU for 10 years. $20 million.
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Who wants the job? Feel free to apply.
https://employment.umn.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/position/JobDetails_css.jsp?postingId=603381
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Who wants the job? Feel free to apply.
https://employment.umn.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/position/JobDetails_css.jsp?postingId=603381
Too funny. You must have heard the gig on KFAN yesterday.
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Too funny. You must have heard the gig on KFAN yesterday.
Never listen to KFAN...just saw it in the City Pages today.
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Sounds like it is going to be Flip.