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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: GoldenWarrior11 on April 19, 2018, 09:22:32 AM
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The Retrievers are going to open Marquette’s new home (the Milwaukee Bucks new arena, the Wisconsin Entertainment and Sports Center) on Nov. 6. And they are looking for one more road, one-way (no return) high-profile game.
Hello, UMBC.
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https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-04-19/umbc-basketball-ryan-odom-are-making-sure-historic-march?scrlybrkr=8cbed462 (https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-04-19/umbc-basketball-ryan-odom-are-making-sure-historic-march?scrlybrkr=8cbed462)
The Retrievers are going to open Marquette’s new home (the Milwaukee Bucks new arena, the Wisconsin Entertainment and Sports Center) on Nov. 6. And they are looking for one more road, one-way (no return) high-profile game.
Hello, UMBC.
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This CAN'T be a trap! The NCAA has NEVER lied before and it never will ;)
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Brilliant scheduling. They'll have some name recognition from the massive upset, but we should pound them since they lose a couple key contributors and it's the arena opener. Also Wojo's from the area so a sentimental tie there.
Dig at Tony Bennett too?
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Why would they dig at Tony Bennett?
This worked out simply because of mutual interest and availability. Don't reach too much into it.
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I'm calling it GREAT news. Both opponent and timing. Three nights later chick and I will be at my goddaughters wedding in Detroit. I was pretty sure I was going to have convince chick that the exhibition game 'counted' somehow. Either that or overpay for Bucks tickets. Off the hook. ;D
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New era, that the NCAA changed that you can start the season on the 2nd Tuesday. Pretty jacked that it's UMBC.
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I'd call this a home run for the opener. Not too many cupcakes that people see the name and get excited about it.
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My son's school (Elon) is also starting play in a new arena next year. They went a decidedly different route for their home opener: UNC. I guess when you're the cupcake, you can't really schedule a cupcake for the first game in your new arena. So, you pick a high profile team for the privilege of being the first to stomp you on your new home court. It's the first time UNC has gone to Elon since 1950. The article I saw doesn't mention whether Elon has to reciprocate, or whether UNC is just doing them a favor to open the new facility.
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I'd call this a home run for the opener. Not too many cupcakes that people see the name and get excited about it.
Weird enough in the case of MU. Back to back years, we are getting jazzy about the American East Conference. Vermont and now UMBC.
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My son's school (Elon) is also starting play in a new arena next year. They went a decidedly different route for their home opener: UNC. I guess when you're the cupcake, you can't really schedule a cupcake for the first game in your new arena. So, you pick a high profile team for the privilege of being the first to stomp you on your new home court. It's the first time UNC has gone to Elon since 1950. The article I saw doesn't mention whether Elon has to reciprocate, or whether UNC is just doing them a favor to open the new facility.
I love how North Carolina schedules. Absolutely love, love, love it. Wish we could emulate their style. Roy is the coach I most admire when it comes to cupcake scheduling.
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No worries. We're knot a 1 seed. Wee got dis, hey?
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https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-04-19/umbc-basketball-ryan-odom-are-making-sure-historic-march?scrlybrkr=8cbed462 (https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-04-19/umbc-basketball-ryan-odom-are-making-sure-historic-march?scrlybrkr=8cbed462)
The Retrievers are going to open Marquette’s new home (the Milwaukee Bucks new arena, the Wisconsin Entertainment and Sports Center) on Nov. 6. And they are looking for one more road, one-way (no return) high-profile game.
Hello, UMBC.
they also told us who the new sponsor is.... "Wisconsin"
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I'd call this a home run for the opener. Not too many cupcakes that people see the name and get excited about it.
Home Run? Is anyone actually excited about UMBC?
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Home Run? Is anyone actually excited about UMBC?
I honestly forgot they upset Virginia. I can’t imagine this is going to cause an increase in people coming to the game.
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Is anyone actually excited about UMBC?
Yes
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Home Run? Is anyone actually excited about UMBC?
Moreso than Chicago state or any other blah team.
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I think people will be excited to attend the first game at the new arena. In regards to ticket sales, I doubt it matters who they play, unless it was some team like ND.
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I honestly forgot they upset Virginia. I can’t imagine this is going to cause an increase in people coming to the game.
The marketing department (if they're worth their weight in geldings) will make sure you remember when it's time to buy tickets.
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Home Run? Is anyone actually excited about UMBC?
As a buy-game? Yes.
I understand the desire to open against a big-name team, but I also understand Wojo's desire to open up with a more beatable opponent.
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As a buy-game? Yes.
I understand the desire to open against a big-name team, but I also understand Wojo's desire to open up with a more beatable opponent.
+1
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The marketing department (if they're worth their weight in geldings) will make sure you remember when it's time to buy tickets.
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Home Run? Is anyone actually excited about UMBC?
It's a home run considering the circumstance. They want a certain win, but also want a name that will attract some attention. UMBC loses 3 seniors and this should be a comfortable win. But they have more name recognition than the average buy team thanks to the UVA win and will likely still be a 20+ win team, which is great for any buy game.
It's not Buffalo or Vermont, but being the first team to play them after their historic tourney run and playing a team that should be a nice resume piece (150-200 range) is pretty much ideal.
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As a buy-game? Yes.
I understand the desire to open against a big-name team, but I also understand Wojo's desire to open up with a more beatable opponent.
They should have opened with Wisconsin. A big-name team and one who is also highly beatable.
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Whitefish Bay's, Joe Sherburne is back for UMBC. Pretty cool for that kid to play MU at the new arena.
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They should have opened with Wisconsin. A big-name team and one who is also highly beatable.
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You have cast a level 5 charm spell on me
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I love this! We should do this every year with whomever is the Cinderella from the prior tourney. Would have been fun a couple years ago to have FGCU come play our opener. But nonetheless, U Must Be Cinderella is coming to MU! Love it!
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I love this! We should do this every year with whomever is the Cinderella from the prior tourney. Would have been fun a couple years ago to have FGCU come play our opener. But nonetheless, U Must Be Cinderella is coming to MU! Love it!
Depends on the Cinderella. I would not want to play Loyola.
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Depends on the Cinderella. I would not want to play Loyola.
They'll probably be about as good as Buffalo next year and we're playing them
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Depends on the Cinderella. I would not want to play Loyola.
Sounds like Loyola will open up at Northwestern's re-done arena.
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The marketing department (if they're worth their weight in geldings) will make sure you remember when it's time to buy tickets.
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How many castrated horses should a marketing department be worth?
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As a buy-game? Yes.
I understand the desire to open against a big-name team, but I also understand Wojo's desire to open up with a more beatable opponent.
As a buy game they seem like any of the other 250-350 teams we typically play. I just don't see why this is a home run - whether it's the opener at the new arena or any other non-conference game.
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Sounds like Loyola will open up at Northwestern's re-done arena.
Now that is a fun season-opening matchup.
I didn't realize that they re-did the Welsh-Ryan arena. What did they change? I remember it from going to too many Warren Township graduations there, including my own.
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Now that is a fun season-opening matchup.
I didn't realize that they re-did the Welsh-Ryan arena. What did they change? I remember it from going to too many Warren Township graduations there, including my own.
Not entirely sure, but from the view from the football stadium last fall, they had sections of it down to the girders.
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Now that is a fun season-opening matchup.
I didn't realize that they re-did the Welsh-Ryan arena. What did they change? I remember it from going to too many Warren Township graduations there, including my own.
Northwestern played all it's home games at the Allstate Arena last season.
https://www.northwestern.edu/fm/projects/our_projects/evanston/welsh-ryan-arena-renovation.html
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As a buy game they seem like any of the other 250-350 teams we typically play. I just don't see why this is a home run - whether it's the opener at the new arena or any other non-conference game.
I wouldn't say homerun, but UMBC is now a brand name from what happened in March.
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I wouldn't say homerun, but UMBC is now a brand name from what happened in March.
Brand name yes, but they lose three starters including Lyles who single handily took them on their run. MU will destroy them, just as they have in the past.
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It's a good opener, and a good buy game. Most college basketball fans will know exactly who they are, and more casual fans will be reminded by the media and the marketers.
Jeesh ... so many Negative Nancies around these parts!
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What! There is a hole in the roof at the new arena?
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Not entirely sure, but from the view from the football stadium last fall, they had sections of it down to the girders.
Whole thing was stripped down to basically nothing. I thought it was a two year renovation though. Believe they are still at Allstate for one more season.
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It's a good opener, and a good buy game. Most college basketball fans will know exactly who they are, and more casual fans will be reminded by the media and the marketers.
Jeesh ... so many Negative Nancies around these parts!
Why is it a good buy game? (for the record - I've got no issue with it, I just don't think it's anything special.)
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Whole thing was stripped down to basically nothing. I thought it was a two year renovation though. Believe they are still at Allstate for one more season.
The renovation is supposed to be completed by October '18
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Bedda question is hoos gonna take da first leak at da new arena, aina?
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Bedda question is hoos gonna take da first leak at da new arena, aina?
Construction workers did
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As a buy-game? Yes.
I understand the desire to open against a big-name team, but I also understand Wojo's desire to open up with a more beatable opponent.
UWM gets you both marketing and beatable. Good for Milwaukee.
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UWM gets you both marketing and beatable. Good for Milwaukee.
Oh man this thread is gonna suck now
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Why is it a good buy game? (for the record - I've got no issue with it, I just don't think it's anything special.)
I am completely confused as to why you do not think this is a better than usual season opener. Even casual fans love March madness and big upsets and there were none bigger than their upset of Virginia. So if you don't get why this is better than playing a similar level team that ISN'T coming off a huge upset of the number one seed in the tournament, then I am not sure what to tell you. We are not going to be playing a top level team in our season opener, so this is the next best thing. When I told my girlfriend (a casual basketball fan) who we were playing, she immediately had more interest in the game than she would have if we were playing a team she has never heard of. So yes, I actually think it is a home run, since Duke or Kansas aren't planning on opening up the new Arena with us.
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I wouldn't say homerun, but UMBC is now a brand name from what happened in March.
Watching them beat Virginia was the highlight of the tournament for me. However, I doubt I would of remember who beat Virginia if you had asked me before this thread.
I do think it is a great opening game. I assume the little point guard from Puerto Rico is now gone. He was something to watch.
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Watching them beat Virginia was the highlight of the tournament for me. However, I doubt I would of remember who beat Virginia if you had asked me before this thread.
I do think it is a great opening game. I assume the little point guard from Puerto Rico is now gone. He was something to watch.
Glow can attest that I am not an anal person by any means, but grammar is my thing, and Bilsu, you are driving me crazy with this.
And for the rest of you all, "it's" means IT IS. It is not a possessive!!!!!
I will see myself out now. I need to go get some HRT.
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Glow can attest that I am not an anal person by any means, but grammar is my thing, and Bilsu, you are driving me crazy with this.
And for the rest of you all, "it's" means IT IS. It is not a possessive!!!!!
I will see myself out now. I need to go get some HRT.
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Excited for this game.
Have to imagine we will get even more social media interest/press based on the opponent, too. Nice job, MU.
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UMBC was overshaddowed by Loyola. Not sure it really is going to register anywhere unless they beat MU.
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Glow can attest that I am not an anal person by any means, but grammar is my thing, and Bilsu, you are driving me crazy with this.
And for the rest of you all, "it's" means IT IS. It is not a possessive!!!!!
I will see myself out now. I need to go get some HRT.
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The marketing department (if they're worth their weight in geldings) will make sure you remember when it's time to buy tickets.
No. Please No. Noooooo!!!!! Not more Godfather-style castrated male horses in my driveway again! I'll go......., I'll go to the damn game, MU marketing dons!!!
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Glow can attest that I am not an anal person by any means, but grammar is my thing, and Bilsu, you are driving me crazy with this.
And for the rest of you all, "it's" means IT IS. It is not a possessive!!!!!
I will see myself out now. I need to go get some HRT.
Strong Bad helps me remember https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yc2udEpyPpU
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Glow can attest that I am not an anal person by any means, but grammar is my thing, and Bilsu, you are driving me crazy with this.
And for the rest of you all, "it's" means IT IS. It is not a possessive!!!!!
I will see myself out now. I need to go get some HRT.
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UMBC was overshaddowed by Loyola. Not sure it really is going to register anywhere unless they beat MU.
Disagree. Loyola was the bigger story while they were still alive...but now that it’s over, they join the list with LSU, George Mason and VCU as the fourth #11 seed to get to the Final Four and lose.
In contrast, people will remember UMBC as the first #16 seed to beat a #1 seed for as long as they remember Chaminade beating #1 UVa (ie, forever).
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Why is it a good buy game? (for the record - I've got no issue with it, I just don't think it's anything special.)
I didn't say it was anything special. I said it's a good buy game and I'll stick with that.
Better than the usual slate of crappy cupcakes.
Again, real basketball fans know exactly who UMBC was and what they did; more casual fans will be reminded constantly.
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Watching them beat Virginia was the highlight of the tournament for me. However, I doubt I would of remember who beat Virginia if you had asked me before this thread.
I do think it is a great opening game. I assume the little point guard from Puerto Rico is now gone. He was something to watch.
Think he might be in PR's international team, Markus is also supposed to eventually join. He's mom is from PR, Butch was the one who gave me the heads up
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I didn't say it was anything special. I said it's a good buy game and I'll stick with that.
Better than the usual slate of crappy cupcakes.
Again, real basketball fans know exactly who UMBC was and what they did; more casual fans will be reminded constantly.
Lazer is saying that there are a projected crappy cupcake--which equates to a drag on our RPI. Why is this game better than usual?
At the end of the day, they are still a probable 250+ team.
That is a crappy cupcake.
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Typical cupcake but now UMBC has a little notoriety. Adds a little interest but that is all.
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Disagree. Loyola was the bigger story while they were still alive...but now that it’s over, they join the list with LSU, George Mason and VCU as the fourth #11 seed to get to the Final Four and lose.
In contrast, people will remember UMBC as the first #16 seed to beat a #1 seed for as long as they remember Chaminade beating #1 UVa (ie, forever).
Not sure LSU is in that same category. While a low seed they still have some basketball prestige
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Typical cupcake but now UMBC has a little notoriety. Adds a little interest but that is all.
I think that this pretty much nails it. Due to their performance in the tournament, there will be a relatively short time period when they hold additional interest to casual fans before being relegated to being merely the answer to a trivia question. Fortunately, Marquette gets them right at the very beginning of that period.
But, aside from that spike in interest, they're a typical cupcake buy game. Their conference RPI is horrible (23rd) and if they're losing a lot of talent, who knows if they're going to return to their single-digit win totals that were the norm before the 2016 season.
It's a perfectly good buy game, with slightly more interest than usual, but there's potential for it to be a real RPI killer. Home run? Sounds like hyperbole.
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Value Add has them at 243. Woof.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nJEfYwvfJP-G6NzYevaRKrtzrmpqYYxz6btGg7C1--w/htmlview#
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Value Add has them at 243. Woof.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nJEfYwvfJP-G6NzYevaRKrtzrmpqYYxz6btGg7C1--w/htmlview#
They're called the retrievers for a reason
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They're called the retrievers for a reason
Yep. They retrieved the UVA's ass before they handed it to them.
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I think that this pretty much nails it. Due to their performance in the tournament, there will be a relatively short time period when they hold additional interest to casual fans before being relegated to being merely the answer to a trivia question. Fortunately, Marquette gets them right at the very beginning of that period.
But, aside from that spike in interest, they're a typical cupcake buy game. Their conference RPI is horrible (23rd) and if they're losing a lot of talent, who knows if they're going to return to their single-digit win totals that were the norm before the 2016 season.
It's a perfectly good buy game, with slightly more interest than usual, but there's potential for it to be a real RPI killer. Home run? Sounds like hyperbole.
I can live with this.
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I can live with this.
Whew! I’ll alert the media.
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Not sure LSU is in that same category. While a low seed they still have some basketball prestige
Reasonable point. But Loyola still falls in with VCU and GMU when all is said and done. UMBC stands alone in what they did.
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