Airing of Grievences Thread

[Mutaman]

No need for that.   Let grievances air.  Let opinions be known.   Don't take this thread there.

I thought it was pretty funny. Hilltopper seems to appreciate a good joke.

[rocket surgeon]

So God is capitalized when you are referring to the Christian God. It’s his/her name.

Christmas is capitalized because it’s a proper name. It has nothing to do with respect.

You couldn’t be more of a brainless, slack jawed Fox News viewer if you tried.

  very enlightening there tiny-have a good one

[#UnleashSean]

  with all due respect eagle, i still think, regardless of belief in or not, the word or mention of God should be capitalized.  but that's just my prejudice and belief system.

But your confused by the term god. It's not a singular thing. God has stood for many things, long before your religion came about. There have been many god's. So if we are talking about the god you believe in, Yahweh, then yes God would be capitalized.

However not everyone is Christian or Jewish and therefore do not refer to all god's as God.

[Jockey]

Are you for real?  I’m sure you’re a clean shaven,striking lad who wears a shirt, tie and a pair of slacks everyday. Maybe even a nice sweater when there’s a chill in the air.

I think you meant "trousers".

[Jockey]

Actually, she doesn't need to make my supper...I'm way too picky of an eater anyway and she'd just get frustrated. But I do appreciate a lady that isn't all tatted up, wears make up whenever she leaves the house, for any reason, and one that likes an old fashioned man and believes in the traditional gender roles and acts as such. THAT part is the biggest problem now days.

Wow. I thought you were tiresome in the basketball threads. Who knew?

[rocket surgeon]

But your confused by the term god. It's not a singular thing. God has stood for many things, long before your religion came about. There have been many god's. So if we are talking about the god you believe in, Yahweh, then yes God would be capitalized.

However not everyone is Christian or Jewish and therefore do not refer to all god's as God.

despite your especially strong animosity toward me cain, i have to give credit where it's due-very good explanation; i can go with that-ok, carry on

[muguru]

Wow. I thought you were tiresome in the basketball threads. Who knew?

Wow. The next time I care about what someone from USA's little brother thinks, will be the last. I used to be married to a Canadian.

[warriorchick]

You what I miss?  The days when no self-respecting man would allow his wife to work.

He worked his tail off to provide for his family, and if that didn't pay the bills, he manned up and took a second job.  Sure, his wife was usually busy with a crap ton of kids in the early years, but once they were school age, or better yet, out of the house, she got to sit around and play bridge with her friends or watch soap operas.

Unfortunately, it's a rare thing to find a real male these days.

[Galway Eagle]

  with all due respect eagle, i still think, regardless of belief in or not, the word or mention of God should be capitalized.  but that's just my prejudice and belief system.

Which is fair, you're entitled to your beliefs just as he is. But that still has nothing to do with revealing his character. A child molesting priest could capitalize the G all the time and and an atheist who refuses to could spend their life helping those same victims. Would you respond to the atheist that it reveals something negative about their character and look the other way about the priest because of something as trivial as a capitalization?

[muguru]

You what I miss?  The days when no self-respecting man would allow his wife to work.

He worked his tail off to provide for his family, and if that didn't pay the bills, he manned up and took a second job.  Sure, his wife was usually busy with a crap ton of kids in the early years, but once they were school age, or better yet, out of the house, she got to sit around and play bridge with her friends or watch soap operas.

Unfortunately, it's a rare thing to find a real male these days.

+1000...this is EXACTLY how I feel...I WANT to take care of my wife/significant other in EVERY way. If she wanted to work, that's fine, but in a perfect world, I'd prefer to take care of her financially, emotionally and any way that I can. To me, that's a man's job. I NEED to feel useful to her...fixing things around the house etc. Most women would say they want their man to do that, and may be they do...but for me(and me personally), if she actually knows how to do those things herself or COULD do them herself but just didn't really want to since I could instead, that takes a lot of the "knight in shining armor" feel of it away for me.

My ex wife for example had no idea how to start the lawn mower or the snow blower...that was totally fine with me. I didn't want her to know how to, those things are my job, to me that's all part of taking care of someone.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

+1000...this is EXACTLY how I feel...I WANT to take care of my wife/significant other in EVERY way. If she wanted to work, that's fine, but in a perfect world, I'd prefer to take care of her financially, emotionally and any way that I can. To me, that's a man's job. I NEED to feel useful to her...fixing things around the house etc. Most women would say they want their man to do that, and may be they do...but for me(and me personally), if she actually knows how to do those things herself or COULD do them herself but just didn't really want to since I could instead, that takes a lot of the "knight in shining armor" feel of it away for me.

My ex wife for example had no idea how to start the lawn mower or the snow blower...that was totally fine with me. I didn't want her to know how to, those things are my job, to me that's all part of taking care of someone.

Maybe you should join the Amish.

[4everwarriors]

Checkin' won's oil is a basic skill every woman should no, aina?

[warriorchick]

+1000...this is EXACTLY how I feel...I WANT to take care of my wife/significant other in EVERY way. If she wanted to work, that's fine, but in a perfect world, I'd prefer to take care of her financially, emotionally and any way that I can. To me, that's a man's job. I NEED to feel useful to her...fixing things around the house etc. Most women would say they want their man to do that, and may be they do...but for me(and me personally), if she actually knows how to do those things herself or COULD do them herself but just didn't really want to since I could instead, that takes a lot of the "knight in shining armor" feel of it away for me.

My ex wife for example had no idea how to start the lawn mower or the snow blower...that was totally fine with me. I didn't want her to know how to, those things are my job, to me that's all part of taking care of someone.

Wow.  Why would she have divorced such a perfect husband?

[We R Final Four]

Shocked to learned he isn’t married anymore.

[Galway Eagle]

Wow.  Why would she have divorced such a perfect husband?

Maybe she forgot makeup before heading to the grocery store and he divorced her?

[muguru]

Wow.  Why would she have divorced such a perfect husband?

Far from perfect...but, the basic jist of it is she was/is from Canada, and her homesickness just got the best of her. She really struggled with it.

[hairy worthen]

Checkin' won's oil is a basic skill every woman should no, aina?

not hard. just need to push the dipstick in and out.

[warriorchick]

Maybe she forgot makeup before heading to the grocery store and he divorced her?

Or he found out she was wearing slacks on the DL.  The trust in their marriage was destroyed.

[warriorchick]

Far from perfect...but, the basic jist of it is she was/is from Canada, and her homesickness just got the best of her. She really struggled with it.

[jesmu84]

+1000...this is EXACTLY how I feel...I WANT to take care of my wife/significant other in EVERY way. If she wanted to work, that's fine, but in a perfect world, I'd prefer to take care of her financially, emotionally and any way that I can. To me, that's a man's job. I NEED to feel useful to her...fixing things around the house etc. Most women would say they want their man to do that, and may be they do...but for me(and me personally), if she actually knows how to do those things herself or COULD do them herself but just didn't really want to since I could instead, that takes a lot of the "knight in shining armor" feel of it away for me.

My ex wife for example had no idea how to start the lawn mower or the snow blower...that was totally fine with me. I didn't want her to know how to, those things are my job, to me that's all part of taking care of someone.

Does that include cooking, cleaning, laundry?

Or did/does your "care" also have boundaries by traditional gender role?

No mocking here. Genuinely interested

[NorthernDancerColt]

not hard. just need to push the dipstick in and out.

Some men lament the intake being too close to the exhaust.
But that’s a beef with the Designer...er, designer.

[muguru]

Here's what I'm reading into your statements. Either by "these days" you're chatting up women who are your age and not realizing all the good ones are taken and you've failed to stay true to your generations evolution of single life. OR by "these days" you mean younger women that you're hitting on which is extremely creepy OR you're upset because said younger women aren't eye candy for you which is makes you the worst type of guy and extremely creepy.

If someone can find a route where he comes out looking normal in these statements please tell me.

I'm glad you brought this up Galway, because this is a major grievance of mine...Believe me, I am not singling you out at all, but it does demonstrate how far we still need to go as a society, and quite frankly how hypocritical we still are. The times we live in now, we are told we should love and accept all...men with men, women with women, Transgender etc. They are all people, and as long as it doesn't affect us, what difference does it make. Yet, your point about an older man with a younger woman as you call it "creepy". You are far from the only one that feels that way...I would ask why?? If two people are happy together, why should you, me or anyone judge?? If a man is 45 and he is with a 21 yr old girl, most in society these days would say just what you did "it's creepy". But aren't we told, love is love?? If they are happy together, shouldn't that be all that matters?? How is that any different then a man with a man, or a woman with a woman etc?? It shouldn't be. It's hypocritical for us a society to be so accepting of some things that were at least at one time not a society norm, but still very judgmental of other things that for whatever reason still doesn't seem to be accepted as a societal norm like the other things are.

Where we all get really hypocritical is if that woman was 31 and the man was 55(still the same 24 year age difference), then most people would seem to accept that. Seems very bizarre to me. Would we feel the same way if a woman was 55 with a 21 year old kid?? I'm not sure we would.

It seems to me that people think couples with large age gaps can't possibly love each other. That there has to be something else to it rather then two people just being in love. This is where we still have a long ways to go as a society IMO.

My dad has been married twice...the second time he married a girl that he was/is 27 years older than. He was 51 then. At the time, a lot of people were judgmental and thought just like you said "that's creepy". But now that he's 78...guess what?? All of a sudden no one cares, yet the same 27 year age gap exists. I think that's VERY bizarre, especially since they are happy together.

[StillAWarrior]

Far from perfect...but, the basic jist of it is she was/is from Canada, and her homesickness just got the best of her. She really struggled with it.

Hmmm...sounds suspiciously like, “it’s not you; it’s me.”  She sounds very kind.

[tower912]

Grievence vs grievance.

[muguru]

Does that include cooking, cleaning, laundry?

Or did/does your "care" also have boundaries by traditional gender role?

No mocking here. Genuinely interested

I mentioned it before, but I believe in(and prefer) traditional gender roles. That being said, I don't really need her to cook, because of how picky i am, she'd just get frustrated with that anyway. That being said, if I am going to cut the grass, blow the snow, fix the things that need to be fixed, take care of her, pamper her, support her financially etc,(which are all things i SHOULD be doing for her and frankly don't WANT her to do...that's why she has me) I would like to think if she's home all day she would clean the house, do the laundry etc. I want to make her life as easy as I possibly can for her...that is what I feel is my responsibility as a man.