Kolek planning to go pro
You know this how? Mizzou is his fourth job. He has never stayed for more than 3 years at any of them. And yet you "know" that Martin would have stayed at Marquette for a long time? Okey dokey then.And BTW, Martin's Cal team lost a first-round game as a 4-seed -- a fireable offense around these parts!
Cal is a crapshow. The department is in ridiculous debt. The football stadium renovations won’t be paid off for another 100 years. And they do have high academic standards for recruiting.That’s why he left. I think he would have stayed at MU with the stability and commitment of the school.
You forgot that a fault line literally runs down the center of the football stadium and they have JUCOs as student athletes (Aaron Rodgers, C.J. Anderson, et al). A mess.
Not every kid is at a JUCO because of grades (Rogers and Jimmy Butler are two perfect examples). Cal’s Administration is also hostile towards athletics, especially football and basketball.
Cal’s Administration is also hostile towards athletics, especially football and basketball.
So true! But MU has zero JUCOs as student athletes in ALL sports. Thanks Larry!
Marquette made it known they would pass ("declined to pursue". Note that carefully worded quote). Ask your buddy Cords instead of your go to Google. Cords sent a letter out to donors a week or so before basically saying hang on for the bumpy ride...we'll be okay in the long term. Buzz subsequently locked himself in a room and pursued his next job as MUAD silently applauded.
Nothing wrong with JUCOs, having nearly 40% of your roster....is a problem. Athletic department won President’s Award in 2017, the only school other than Nova to win in four years. Last year Big East champions in vball, women’s hoops, runner up in men’s hoops, golf ncaa bid, etc. Yes, we are struggling as an athletic dept.
Jamil Lott, Marcus Jackson, Trend Blackledge, Mike Kinsella, Joe Fulce....squirmy
Those guys all played on the same roster and made up nearly 40% of our roster....was it a pickup game roster of grads and current players? To my memory, the most we ever had was three during that time period but if I am wrong I will happily admit it. JUCOs are fine, but too many is a major challenge with roster management as I have said before.I noticed you have moved on from your NIT nonsense. Having lunch late next week with someone from MU athletics during that time period that would have to be involved with your construct. To be clear, you are saying despite Buzz saying in media interviews during Big East tournament that he wanted a NIT bid, but MU and the AD behind his back told NIT we didn’t....this born out in a letter to donors that everything would be ok by stating this or it’s how you read it? Then when we are “snubbed” (which is funny because we didn’t deserve a bid to begin with), head coach goes back to media saying how disappointed he is that we had no NIT bid. But that was all part of the master plan to stop streak of post season bids, deny kids a chance to continue to play because MU, despite our head coach on record multiple times in media over a five day span saying he wanted NIT bid, didn’t want a bid. Yet, we still issued statement not only by Buzz but also athletic dept (multiple people) they we were disappointed in not getting it and would not go for CBI. To summarize, MU was lying the whole way to the public and putting their coach out to hang himself essentially, and MU doubled down on this by also releasing an official statement of our disappointment that AD has to buy off on knowing it was 100% not true....is that your version?Just want to make sure I have this correct above.
OK, you're allowed your opinion.I am glad we didn't hire him, and if he is the best example of the kind of high-quality, proven P5 coaches who will be lining up for the MU job the next time it's open, I'll again be happy to go with a top assistant from a great program.
I’m not saying we should have hired him, just providing context for the Cal situation.I had no issues with hiring Wojo. I am fine in hiring a guy who views MU as a steppingstone job since that means they will have left us in better shape than which they found us.
If you can see the future why are you being wasteful and spending time on Scoop?
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.
There is something wrong when we are lumped in with Dayton, or that we are even included in this conversation.
A little digging, Buzz had five JUCOs on one team, that's a huge percentage of the roster, which means constant turnover. The players above in your post, did not all play together, so talk about moving the goal posts. JUCOs are fine, but not is mass quantities. It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy and works against you in high school recruiting because kids always think you are going to bring in another JUCO. Then you have issues about whether they can graduate, will the course work transfer. And of course most JUCOs are only 2 year players, there are exceptions like Kinsella, Butler.
Buzz's first full year recruiting class included 4 freshmen, a 7-2 center and three RCSI top 75 players along with 2 Jucos, even though, he had brought in 2 Jucos the year before after the 2008 recruiting class fell apart after Crean left.Buzz's problems with recruiting freshmen centered more on getting players who were way overrated: Mbao, Eric Williams, Jamil Jones, Juan Anderson, somewhat overrated: Derrick Wilson (wasn't top 100), Junior Cadougan, or problematic Jeronnie Myamon, Todd Mayo.
Buzz's first full year recruiting class included 4 freshmen, a 7-2 center and three RCSI top 75 players along with 2 Jucos, even though, he had brought in 2 Jucos the year before after the 2008 recruiting class fell apart after Crean left.
2012-13 with a team that won the Big East regular season championship and advanced to the Elite 8. BTW, that team had zero Junior college players on it - not that it matters to any but a few snobs in our fanbase.