BE Coaches Rank Conference Jobs

[brewnewsman]

MU #3 behind Georgetown and Villanova.


3. Marquette (59) – No one in the league has more resources, and just about every coach has had success – although different levels. Al McGuire led Marquette to its lone national championship way back in 1977, Kevin O’Neill took the program to the Sweet 16 in 1994, Tom Crean went to the Final Four in 2003, Buzz Williams went to an Elite Eight and a pair of Sweet 16’s in his final three seasons. The only real downside is its recruiting base.

Where they win: “Resources, game facilities, support from the administration and fan base. This is a much better job than people realize. Marquette has everything.” – Big East administrator

The knock: “Not a ton of kids in Wisconsin, and the ones that do come out of there want to go to Wisconsin and not Marquette. Other than that, it’s one of the more underrated jobs in the league … and maybe in the entire country.” – Big East assistant

https://watchstadium.com/news/big-east-basketball-coaches-rank-the-best-jobs-in-the-conference-11-02-2018/

[MomofMUltiples]

Ummm - we've been getting our share of Wisconsin kids lately.

[brewcity77]

Not sure about the knock. Both teams have 3 scholarship kids from the state and in the coming years, I'd be honestly curious how many other states have as many top-10 kids as Wisconsin does.

[jsglow]

Yeah, the BEast assistant is an idiot.  We've gotten pretty much every important kid in Wisconsin of those that want to stay in state for several years. 

No Brevin Pritzl doesn't count.

[Floorslapper]

Nice find.  Liked their methodology.  Liked that it was also a survey, where the answers were provided by the in-league coaches.

Let's hope Wojo joins the long list of coaches with success at MU.  No doubt Wojo walked into Marquette in a prime position, and without question the easiest task at hand as compared to O'Neill, Deane, Crean, Buzz. 

[Nukem2]

Nice find.  Liked their methodology.  Liked that it was also a survey, where the answers were provided by the in-league coaches.

Let's hope Wojo joins the long list of coaches with success at MU.  No doubt Wojo walked into Marquette in a prime position, and without question the easiest task at hand as compared to O'Neill, Deane, Crean, Buzz.

Buzz had a loaded roster and left Wojo with crumbs.

[skianth16]

Yeah, the BEast assistant is an idiot. We've gotten pretty much every important kid in Wisconsin of those that want to stay in state for several years. 

No Brevin Pritzl doesn't count.

Might be a little harsh to say about someone who does this for a living. He probably just assumed that because of UW's recent successes or from some personal experience.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Nice find.  Liked their methodology.  Liked that it was also a survey, where the answers were provided by the in-league coaches.

Let's hope Wojo joins the long list of coaches with success at MU.  No doubt Wojo walked into Marquette in a prime position, and without question the easiest task at hand as compared to O'Neill, Deane, Crean, Buzz.

Please, Buzz has a wayyyy easier time with the Amigos and Zar.

It's not even remotely close.

[brewcity77]

Guys, don't let Ners suck you down that wormhole again.

[jsglow]

Might be a little harsh to say about someone who does this for a living. He probably just assumed that because of UW's recent successes or from some personal experience.

Fair enough.  But he's very wrong.

[We R Final Four]

Please, Buzz has a wayyyy easier time with the Amigos and Zar.

It's not even remotely close.

+1000. Classic Ners.

[wadesworld]

Nice find.  Liked their methodology.  Liked that it was also a survey, where the answers were provided by the in-league coaches.

Let's hope Wojo joins the long list of coaches with success at MU.  No doubt Wojo walked into Marquette in a prime position, and without question the easiest task at hand as compared to O'Neill, Deane, Crean, Buzz.

Buzz comes into prime BE with Lazar and the 3 Amigos as upper classmen.  Buzz runs from the new BE because he can't be competitive in a crap league, according to him, and leaves three meh freshmen, Juan Anderson, and Derrick Wilson for the new coach.

Yeah, way easier!

For someone who pretends to be smarter than everyone else...yikes!

[GooooMarquette]

Fair enough.  But he's very wrong.

Yep. I could see someone expressing that opinion a few years back, but in the Wojo era, we have done just fine with in-state recruits.

[Herman Cain]

I think the poll is well done overall .  The comments were  picked out by the author to make the article interesting but are not completely accurate for many teams.

[Jay Bee]

Might be a little harsh to say about someone who does this for a living. He probably just assumed that because of UW's recent successes or from some personal experience.

Nah. It’s warranted. That’s a claim that is easily factually refuted.

[spartan3186]

I don't really understand the "Buy Game" category -- somewhere Marquette ranks really well. Does anyone in the conference really get bought out of games? How does Villanova rank last in that category?

[Floorslapper]

Buzz comes into prime The REAL BE with Lazar and the 3 Amigos as upper classmen.  Buzz runs from the new BE because he can't be competitive in a crap league, according to him, and leaves three meh freshmen, Juan Anderson, and Derrick Wilson for the new coach.

Yeah, way easier!

For someone who pretends to be smarter than everyone else...yikes!

Buzz had a great roster his first year, to compete in the toughest league in the country, without question.  Thereafter?  What was left in that cupboard from Crean?  Believe we made the NCAA in Year 2 of Buzz regime as well.  Has new Big East ever rated as the toughest league since Wojo arrived?

You and the other handful of Wojo worshippers are more than welcome to continue to think he walked into a crap situation.  He made it a crap situation with his decision-making.  4 Years later and we still await our first NCAA tourney victory.  Year 5 appears to be the charm.  It's been a long time coming.

[TheGym]

Buzz comes into prime BE with Lazar and the 3 Amigos as upper classmen.  Buzz runs from the new BE because he can't be competitive in a crap league, according to him, and leaves three meh freshmen, Juan Anderson, and Derrick Wilson for the new coach.

Yeah, way easier!

For someone who pretends to be smarter than everyone else...yikes!

Absolutely correct, Wojo situation was much more difficult.  Despite what Buzz says, his leaving was not entirely his own decision.

[wadesworld]

Buzz had a great roster his first year, to compete in the toughest league in the country, without question.  Thereafter?  What was left in that cupboard from Crean?  Believe we made the NCAA in Year 2 of Buzz regime as well.  Has new Big East ever rated as the toughest league since Wojo arrived?

You and the other handful of Wojo worshippers are more than welcome to continue to think he walked into a crap situation.  He made it a crap situation with his decision-making.  4 Years later and we still await our first NCAA tourney victory.  Year 5 appears to be the charm.  It's been a long time coming.

3 all time great seniors in Matthews, McNeal, and James.  An all time great junior in Hayward.  2 really solid guards in Acker and Cubillan.  Compare that to being left with underclassmen Duane Wilson, JaJuan Johnson, Deonte Burton, Sandy Cohen, John Dawson, and Luke Fischer and upper classmen Derrick Wilson and Juan Anderson.  Hysterical to look at that difference.

Buzz was already recruiting for the program that he took over, which to any person with an iota of rational thought is a huge, huge difference from someone who was an assistant at a different program that was recruiting entirely different players than the program that the coach then took over.  Buzz was already building relationships/recruiting Fulce and Butler to Marquette and was able to bring them along.  Wojo was obviously not going to be bringing Jhalil Okafor along with him to Marquette.

Buzz had 4 NBA players on his team first 2 teams, all upper classmen, 2 of them very, very good NBA players.  Wojo inherited/brought from Duke 1 NBA player who will see almost no time in the actual NBA and who transferred out after his mother passed away.  Otherwise none of the players Wojo was handed to him will even come close to sniffing the NBA.  It's absolutely hysterical that you think you can compare the two and reasonably think what Wojo inherited was even remotely close to what Buzz inherited.  It'd be like saying someone born with no limbs was born with an equal chance of playing in the NBA as LeBron James's kids had when they were first born.

Buzz himself claimed he couldn't recruit to the new Big East.  So Buzz himself admits that his situation when he was taking over was much easier to recruit to.  Both had the Al.  Both had the BC.  Buzz didn't believe he could recruit to the situation Wojo was walking into in the same way he could recruit when he got the job.  Don't let me tell you.  Buzz told you himself.

In year 6 Buzz was missing all postseason play because of his own decisions.  I'll put money on Wojo not missing all postseason play come year 6 at MU.

[jesmu84]

Buzz had a great roster his first year, to compete in the toughest league in the country, without question.  Thereafter?  What was left in that cupboard from Crean?  Believe we made the NCAA in Year 2 of Buzz regime as well.  Has new Big East ever rated as the toughest league since Wojo arrived?

You and the other handful of Wojo worshippers are more than welcome to continue to think he walked into a crap situation.  He made it a crap situation with his decision-making.  4 Years later and we still await our first NCAA tourney victory.  Year 5 appears to be the charm.  It's been a long time coming.

What decisions are you referring to?

[fjm]

Oh.
My.
Lord.

Why do you guys feed into
Ner’s delusional 4th grader mindset?

[#UnleashSean]

Buzz had a loaded roster and left Wojo with crumbs.

Buzz was also supposed to lead that team a N as appearance. He did. The next year he also did, and the year after, and again... Etc.

Say what you want about Wojo's bare cupboard, but buzz performed highly.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Historically Wisconsin has been a waste land for talent.  Many years with no top 100 kids.  Talent has gotten much better, and along With it UWs fortunes.  while most Wisconsin kids are inclined to go to the state school Marquette has done pretty well , especially lately. 

[GB Warrior]

Well this thread went predictably.

Thought we'd spend more time talking about the Wisconsin comment, which - to JBs point - is just stupid. UW has gotten the better Wisc recruit 2 or 3 times in the past decade (By my count, only sure  ones are Dekker and King. The one that can be debated is Duane v Koenig. Though we got Fischer a year later too)

[Galway Eagle]

I'm happy with where were rated in that list. About how I'd rank the top 3 programs as well.