Author Topic: How do we keep Buzz (Read 15865 times)

mviale · « **on:** January 18, 2009, 12:00:44 PM »

He has Marquette playing at a very high level - yesterday's game was a loss in years past. He is also a very good recruiter. If we go far this year, does he look around? I dont think so, but money can do funny things.

77ncaachamps · « **Reply #1 on:** January 18, 2009, 12:02:59 PM »

Thread of the year!

Brew City · « **Reply #2 on:** January 18, 2009, 12:08:05 PM »

Buzz to Indiana.

nathanziarek · « **Reply #3 on:** January 18, 2009, 12:16:03 PM »

If Buzz does phenomenally well this year, and another team comes calling, I think it is a tough call from both ends of the floor.

For Buzz, his stock will almost certainly take a hit next year after losing the big three. If he could raise his salary and move to a school where he feels he can better recruit, why wouldn't he? Yeah, he's a classy guy, but that says nothing of bettering your own situation.

For Marquette, no matter how good Buzz does this year, he is still something of an unknown quantity. Right now, he is playing with Crean's players. Every coach is a risk, and Marquette decided Buzz was worth $X/year. Is he, after one year with someone else's players, worth twice that?

I think Marquette offers a pretty good package (other than -30 degree temps) and that the new offer would have to be pretty good to get him to leave with this recruiting class coming in. MU is back on the map, and can't really be seen as a stepping stone program. I'm not worried -- yet. Let's see a final four run before Buzz stock takes off

RawdogDX · « **Reply #4 on:** January 18, 2009, 12:20:49 PM »

Only jerks take a better job for more money

What top team may be losing a coach? There are only 5-8 jobs that are really that much better than MU. Most of them have coaches who aren't going anywhere soon.

Chili · « **Reply #5 on:** January 18, 2009, 12:21:46 PM »

Quote from: RawdogDX on January 18, 2009, 12:20:49 PM

Only jerks take a better job for more money

What top team may be losing a coach? There are only 5-8 jobs that are really that much better than MU. Most of them have coaches who aren't going anywhere soon.

Arizona.

MilTown · « **Reply #6 on:** January 18, 2009, 12:22:30 PM »

I think talks of a contract extension or him leaving are a bit premature. Buzz has the luxury of inheriting an experienced team with the 3 seniors and Lazar. I'm not saying he just rolls the ball out and lets them play. Buzz can definitely coach and is doing a great job. He has shown a ton already and is getting better each game. What I'm interested to see is how he is able to develop HIS players next year and the year after. I want to see what Buzz ball really looks like. Also, I'm interested to see how Buzz is able to handle the peripheral aspects of being head basketball coach that Tom Crean excelled at. Buzz has goodwill for a few years, and then it will be time to reevaluate. Also, even if another team comes calling, other than money, I'm not sure what job is better than Marquette for Buzz right now. If he wants to leave, I don't see Marquette getting into a bidding war.

StillWarriors · « **Reply #7 on:** January 18, 2009, 12:42:06 PM »

[What top team may be losing a coach? There are only 5-8 jobs that are really that much better than MU. Most of them have coaches who aren't going anywhere soon.
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Has the job become that much more appealing since TC left? If there were only 5-8 better jobs why did the hiring process go the way it did? Buzz seems to be doing a great job and gets a big thumbs up right now, but I think he would even concede he wouldn't have gotten the gig if it was truly a top 10 job.

NCMUFan · « **Reply #8 on:** January 18, 2009, 12:51:08 PM »

Give it a break. Marquette is a great job. Are you worrying that the sky will fall to?

Avenue Commons · « **Reply #9 on:** January 18, 2009, 12:58:38 PM »

Quote from: mviale on January 18, 2009, 12:00:44 PM

He has Marquette playing at a very high level - yesterday's game was a loss in years past. He is also a very good recruiter. If we go far this year, does he look around? I dont think so, but money can do funny things.

This is absolutely, positively ridiculous. The guys basically won the lottery by being in the right place at the right time and getting the MU job when Crean left for Indiana. If he wasn't on TC's staff at the time, he's still an assistant sitting on the bench waiting for his "break." From what I've heard from Buzz and read about him, he knows how lucky he is to be where he is at with Marquette.

Moreover, let's see how he does without three potential NBA draft picks next year before there is talk of him being ready to "look around."

Mods, Delete me please. 8/26/2020 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 18, 2009, 01:02:10 PM »

The only way Buzz would leave MU would be if there was a vacancy at his "dream" school, Texas-Arlington. That could only happen if Scott Cross left to coach in the NBA.

The Lens · « **Reply #11 on:** January 18, 2009, 01:17:09 PM »

Quote from: MUunderpants on January 18, 2009, 01:02:10 PM

The only way Buzz would leave MU would be if there was a vacancy at his "dream" school, Texas-Arlington. That could only happen if Scott Cross left to coach in the NBA.

POST OF THE YEAR!!

bilsu · « **Reply #12 on:** January 18, 2009, 01:22:21 PM »

I do not see Buzz leaving anytime soon. For an elite program to offer him a job, he would have to show he can win with his players. He is not going to make a lateral move. I think one of the reasons Crean left is that he felt he could not consistantly recruit the top players at MU. I do not see this as a problem for Buzz. The only question is how he handles a young, but talented team next year. Some fan expectations will be too high, which will put pressure on Buzz.

SCdem@MU · « **Reply #13 on:** January 18, 2009, 01:23:31 PM »

Quote from: mviale on January 18, 2009, 12:00:44 PM

He has Marquette playing at a very high level - yesterday's game was a loss in years past. He is also a very good recruiter. If we go far this year, does he look around? I dont think so, but money can do funny things.

Still too early to tell. With the senior leadership on this team I would have expected a similar start if Mickey Mouse was the coach. Lets see how Buzz gets us through the hell that will be @G-town, UConn, @Louisville, @Pitt, Syracuse before we proclaim him to be the next Marquette God.

While we won last night the substitutions and Buzz's refusal to call timeouts and/or change up defenses when Providence was driving to the basket at will was very questionable.

We also have no idea as to whether or not Buzz can develop talent. Just because you pull in top recruiting classes doesn't mean crap if you can't develop those players... just ask jabba the hut aka Charlie Wies. He won with Ty Willingham's senior class and hasn't done crap since and now ND is stuck with a huge buyout to deal with when they suck again next year.

Daniel · « **Reply #14 on:** January 18, 2009, 02:02:19 PM »

Buzz feels fortunate to have had this opportunity - as he has said over and over again. I think he also has character. Yes, money talks. Crean theorethically had other opportunities, probably for more money. I just don't see Buzz, who had been many places for a short time as assistants, etc. leaving this gig after a year. Not a good career move by any means, any way you look at it.

And we have the meat of the BEast to play still. I think and I hope he is in this for the long haul. Starting Buzz's Bunch and hiss genuine character says something of the man. I hope in his heart he is saying I'm dancing with the one who brought me to the dance - a marathon - and let's all hope he does well with us year after year.

mu_hilltopper · « **Reply #15 on:** January 18, 2009, 02:11:06 PM »

Indeed, a laughable thought. It is reasonable to think that Buzz really hasn't proven himself yet. Not only is the season young (6 of our 18 games were vs. top 75 .. 8 more coming!) but his career is young.

The best that can be said is that he has potential, and 3 months into his big job, with the former coach's players, he's done well. -- This does not equate to a blockbuster coach that the 5-20 possibly better programs would desire.

While I agree, money and fame can change a man, Buzz strikes me as incredibly humble and loyal. While the %age chance he leaves goes up every season he succeeds, it's at zero right now.

If he succeeds NEXT season, say a Top 25 team with an NCAA bid ..then his chances go up, but still not probable for him to leave.

MU fans have been trained like pavlov turning the Crean years. Good year = our coach might leave.

Pardner · « **Reply #16 on:** January 18, 2009, 02:15:46 PM »

Is Barry Switzer available?

detroitwarrior · « **Reply #17 on:** January 18, 2009, 02:17:21 PM »

Sorry but this post question is almost as silly as the overeaction by some to the Dayton loss when some were calling his coaching into question.
Can we just let the man complete a season or two before we even speculate about him leaving and compare him successwise to other MU coaches......

nola03 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 18, 2009, 02:18:24 PM »

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on January 18, 2009, 02:11:06 PM

Indeed, a laughable thought.

I actually am laughing right now.

Nearly as laughable was someone who talks about how well Butler is playing and then mentions that Tyshawn Taylor has hit a wall at Kansas and they may need another option at guard as if there's a connection tween the two.

79Warrior · « **Reply #19 on:** January 18, 2009, 02:18:41 PM »

Quote from: mviale on January 18, 2009, 12:00:44 PM

He has Marquette playing at a very high level - yesterday's game was a loss in years past. He is also a very good recruiter. If we go far this year, does he look around? I dont think so, but money can do funny things.

Are you kidding???

Blackhat · « **Reply #20 on:** January 18, 2009, 03:23:17 PM »

Buzz still has a lot to prove before any elite school AD will come calling. The way we sucked on D for 30 minutes had me very worried again about our D. It seems Buzz either has our guys playing great non-fouling prone D or Terrible Sieve D.

4everwarriors · « **Reply #21 on:** January 18, 2009, 03:31:14 PM »

You keep coaches by paying them. No different than any other industry. Of course, some dickheads will leave anyway. In this case, I'm not worried.

cheebs09 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 18, 2009, 04:31:36 PM »

I think one imporant reason that will keep Buzz here for awhile is that he saw how hurt the players were when Crean left. I think the way he values relationships and how he puts the players irst, he couldn't do that to the kids. I also think/hope Buzz is one of those guys that will be loyal to MU for giving him his shot. I truely hope Buzz stays for awhile especially if he turns out to be half as good a coach as he is a good person, because from everything I've seen he seems to be a great guy. It'd be cool to have someone here for a long time like a Boeheim or Calhoun.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #23 on:** January 18, 2009, 04:49:06 PM »

Quote from: mviale on January 18, 2009, 12:00:44 PM

He has Marquette playing at a very high level - yesterday's game was a loss in years past. He is also a very good recruiter. If we go far this year, does he look around? I dont think so, but money can do funny things.

Keep global warming alive as he doesn't like the cold and he's from Texas. Besides, where is he going to go? I think most AD's would want him to prove it on his own first, don't you? You know, his own players his own recruits. He's being paid a million right now. He isn't going anywhere anytime soon nor would anyone hire him away yet because no one knows what he's going to be yet as we've all said....this year you throw the ball out and don't screw it up. Next year and years beyond, that's when we find out.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #24 on:** January 18, 2009, 05:05:36 PM »

Quote from: Chili on January 18, 2009, 12:21:46 PM

Arizona.

With all due respect, there is no way in hell the Arizona alums would stand for it. They are going after a proven head coach that has done it for the long haul. Everyone is talking it will be Mark Few, Jamie Dixon, Lon Kruger or someone of that ilk that has done it for the long haul on their own.

I sincerely doubt a program like Arizona would take a flier on someone that stepped into Buzz's situation.

Buzz will have to prove it on his own with his own guys, not after inheriting four of the top 6 scorers (potentially) in MU history when all is said and done for a program like Arizona to grab him.

And besides, if he leaves it won't matter.....remember it's the program that makes the coach not the other way around.

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