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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2014, 08:53:39 AM »
If I was to compare McDermott to anyone, I would say Chuck Person.  And that's worth a #6 pick.

While it's a very,very good comparison, Person wasn't traditional, thus no one will agree.

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« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2014, 10:10:43 AM »
worst case steve novak.  Best case, Dunleavy jr.
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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2014, 10:16:36 AM »
While it's a very,very good comparison, Person wasn't traditional, thus no one will agree.


In this entire thread, and others on other boards, they only compare him to other white basketball players...in a league that is 80% black.

It isn't *that* hard to come up with a comparison.

Best case Glenn Robinson...good case Chuck Person...worst case Rod Higgins.

All three were slowish forwards who could really put the ball in the basket, but none quite lived up to their potential because they just didn't have the speed.  All three stuck around for awhile because they could score...and McDermott will do that too.

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2014, 10:18:49 AM »
I am a Bulls fan and love that they got McDemott, but I disagree with this. Wally Sczerbiak was much more mobile than McDermott and every bit the shooter. McDermott is better in the post, but to suggest anybody is much more skilled than Sczerbiak is a bit of a stretch. Again, Sczerbiak was an all star...most guys in the NBA would sell their first born to make an all star team. He and Garnett had the timberwolves on the verge of the NBA Finals.

I went back and looked up Sczerbiak's stats and some highlights, and agree now that I was wrong. Sczerbiak is more athletic clearly, and more skilled than McDermott.

I've loved McDermott's game for a while, I should have said his mindset is what stands out versus NBA comparables. You have to work at shooting to become an elite shooter, but you have to work just as hard to learn to space off the ball, set an effective screen, and put yourself in a position to be effective without the ball, and McDermott excels at those things.

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2014, 11:30:29 AM »

In this entire thread, and others on other boards, they only compare him to other white basketball players...in a league that is 80% black.

It isn't *that* hard to come up with a comparison.

Best case Glenn Robinson...good case Chuck Person...worst case Rod Higgins.

All three were slowish forwards who could really put the ball in the basket, but none quite lived up to their potential because they just didn't have the speed.  All three stuck around for awhile because they could score...and McDermott will do that too.

While we usually agree,  I can't fathom a universe Doug had the career of the Big Dog.   11 year career,  averaging 21 and 6.

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2014, 01:17:50 PM »
While we usually agree,  I can't fathom a universe Doug had the career of the Big Dog.   11 year career,  averaging 21 and 6.


That's why I said "best case."  I don't think he'll do that either, but if he *is* that good, that is who he'll look like.

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« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2014, 01:27:48 PM »

In this entire thread, and others on other boards, they only compare him to other white basketball players...in a league that is 80% black.

It isn't *that* hard to come up with a comparison.

Best case Glenn Robinson...good case Chuck Person...worst case Rod Higgins.

All three were slowish forwards who could really put the ball in the basket, but none quite lived up to their potential because they just didn't have the speed.  All three stuck around for awhile because they could score...and McDermott will do that too.

Agree with every word of this. I especially like the Chuck Person comparison, though I'm thinking McDermott can be a better shooter.
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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2014, 01:52:12 PM »

That's why I said "best case."  I don't think he'll do that either, but if he *is* that good, that is who he'll look like.

Agree to disagree on his ceiling.

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« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2014, 01:55:13 PM »
While we usually agree,  I can't fathom a universe Doug had the career of the Big Dog.   11 year career,  averaging 21 and 6.

Agree.

Also don't see the Person comparison at all. All shooters aren't the same!!

Person couldn't snag a rebound to save his life - that won't be the case with McDermott. Dougie also sees the floor much better.

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« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2014, 06:32:21 PM »
McDermott is nothing like Chuck Peraon. Person fell in love with the three and for all intents and purposes became a specialist (even nicknamed himself "The Rifleman"). Maybe that happens to McD, but I wouldnt compare their games at this point. Without looking up numbers, I think McDermott is a lot bigger. Person may have been listed at 6'7" (I have no idea), but he was about 6'4".

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« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2014, 07:57:49 PM »
McDermott is nothing like Chuck Peraon. Person fell in love with the three and for all intents and purposes became a specialist (even nicknamed himself "The Rifleman").


Yes...at the end of his career.  Not at the beginning.

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« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2014, 09:28:04 PM »
Agree.

Also don't see the Person comparison at all. All shooters aren't the same!!

Person couldn't snag a rebound to save his life - that won't be the case with McDermott. Dougie also sees the floor much better.

Person averaged 8.3 rebounds as a rookie. I'd be stunned if McDermott is anywhere close to that. Person averaged 5 over his career, but only averaged that many once in his last 7 seasons, as he became a specialist and his playing time dipped.

During his first 6 seasons, all with the Pacers, he averaged 6.3 boards. Not Bill Russell, but not shabby for somebody who "couldn't snag a rebound to save his life."

In college, Person averaged 7.5 rebounds -- the exact same as McDermott.
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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2014, 10:32:27 PM »
Worst case, Adam Morrison.

That would be a...HEART BREAK CITY!...for Bulls fans.

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2014, 10:50:54 PM »
Whatever... Nevermind
 

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2014, 11:36:11 PM »
Person averaged 8.3 rebounds as a rookie. I'd be stunned if McDermott is anywhere close to that. Person averaged 5 over his career, but only averaged that many once in his last 7 seasons, as he became a specialist and his playing time dipped.

During his first 6 seasons, all with the Pacers, he averaged 6.3 boards. Not Bill Russell, but not shabby for somebody who "couldn't snag a rebound to save his life."

In college, Person averaged 7.5 rebounds -- the exact same as McDermott.


Which is over 20% higher than any other year in his career.

I'd only be stunned if Dougie averages 36 minutes a game as a rookie as Persons did. But on the very, very, very slim chancre that he averages 36 minutes (would take several injuries), he would out-rebound Persons.

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« Reply #40 on: June 30, 2014, 09:00:35 AM »
Which is over 20% higher than any other year in his career.

I'd only be stunned if Dougie averages 36 minutes a game as a rookie as Persons did. But on the very, very, very slim chancre that he averages 36 minutes (would take several injuries), he would out-rebound Persons.

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Re: McBuckets to Chicago
« Reply #41 on: June 30, 2014, 09:21:18 AM »
I think Doug is actually underrated.

He's one of the most polished offensive players I've seen at the college level, AND, his measurables looked good at the camps (so I assume he can learn to be a serviceable defender).

Great shooter, but really excels and moving without the ball and setting guys up before he even catches it. He could be a really good pick-and-roll player because he can shoot, but also because his footwork is so good and efficient.

He's never going to be a #1 option, but he can be a really good NBA player for a lot of years.

 

 

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