Would this be a buy game to MU?
I'm struggling to see how scheduling a blue blood for a team that is desperate to build on confidence and heavy on development for next year (we aren't going to NCAAs) is a valued benefit right now.
Why not schedule a Duquesne or a UMASS or any other team that is off this week? (And get a better chance at a win)?
I'm happy, no doubt. I'm just confused on the benefit.
Would this be a buy game to MU?
I'm struggling to see how scheduling a blue blood for a team that is desperate to build on confidence and heavy on development for next year (we aren't going to NCAAs) is a valued benefit right now.
Why not schedule a Duquesne or a UMASS or any other team that is off this week? (And get a better chance at a win)?
I'm happy, no doubt. I'm just confused on the benefit.
Would this be a buy game to MU?
I'm struggling to see how scheduling a blue blood for a team that is desperate to build on confidence and heavy on development for next year (we aren't going to NCAAs) is a valued benefit right now.
Why not schedule a Duquesne or a UMASS or any other team that is off this week? (And get a better chance at a win)?
I'm happy, no doubt. I'm just confused on the benefit.
If it is close, I hope they don't throw pennies at our free throw shooter late in the game.
First thought that comes to mind...well, being under .500 this year is now confirmed
First thought that comes to mind...well, being under .500 this year is now confirmed
That will stink but at this point, does being 15-14 make you feel better? What difference does it make?
For me it would. I'm concerned about the weak finishes the last two years. Going 3-1 down the stretch and winning 2 at MSG would at least allow the season to end on a high note rather than a low one.
I can't stand Roy and I suspect others feel the same way.
It’s just as likely they finish 1-3 and win zero at MSG and finish on a low note.
For me it would. I'm concerned about the weak finishes the last two years. Going 3-1 down the stretch and winning 2 at MSG would at least allow the season to end on a high note rather than a low one.
BLM
Thanks for the laugh this morning. Your commenting on someone being fun to be around really made me laugh.
Sure, but you literally posted the scenario of finishing on a 6-2 streak, so it's an odd take to push back on your own hypothetical.
I did?
That will stink but at this point, does being 15-14 make you feel better?
An enemy of Badger fans is a friend of mineDo you include Michigan State in that, or is it a bridge too far?
Do you include Michigan State in that, or is it a bridge too far?
You did:
Total hypothetical because we all know it won’t happen. But as a thought experiment: what would happen if MU won out the regular season? Would they be able to squeeze their way into the NCAAs with an at-large (say, by making the BE finals)?
Probably....if we picked up a win vs Creighton or Nova in the BET. Chances are less than 1% but ya never know.
An enemy of Badger fans is a friend of mineAgreed!
Even crazier hypothetical(it aint happening but lets just imagine for the hell of it.)
MU beats UNC, UConn and Depaul.
Does the BE scramble and try and get our GTown game back(say march 4th...both teams finish the year playing the 2nd and 6th).
Snagging the gtown win and then X. Ends up putting us at 15-12(10-10). Entering a way different convo.
Best shot iz if 100 teems inn front of us all tested positive 'round tourney tyme, hey?
Best shot iz if 100 teems inn front of us all tested positive 'round tourney tyme, hey?
I hadn't thought about this angle;
We win the BET because of C-19 issues for the other teams????
Conferences are being given the choice of who gets their automatic bid. Nova and Creighton sit out the BET (and UConn if they’re a lock) knowing they’re in and MU makes a run? It’s possible...
I remember Julius Peppers had a great game against MU the last time MU went to the Dean Dome (13 & 9).
What was the story with that game? Was it some sort of CUSA/ACC Challenge? Remember thinking it was kind of BS that MU just went down there and didn’t get a home and home, and of course lost. Typical Crean move.
Total hypothetical because we all know it won’t happen. But as a thought experiment: what would happen if MU won out the regular season? Would they be able to squeeze their way into the NCAAs with an at-large (say, by making the BE finals)?
NC is not that good this year. What is there best win? Syracuse? This is the perfect game to schedule. A marquee name that is an average team. A win would build a lot of confidence and solidify Wojo being back next year.
And a loss will solidify 15 more Fire Wojo and Wojo Sucks threads/polls.
I think it’s awesome this game is happening. I love whenever MU plays power conference teams that they rarely play, especially blue bloods.
And a loss will solidify 15 more Fire Wojo and Wojo Sucks threads/polls.
Ok, this is the first step in the Marquette University, bad ass, take no prisoners revival.
We need to go into NC with a really bad attitude, play had and truly kick ass. If we foul, and we will, make sure the other guy does not get up. Scowl as your introduced and tell UNC as you shake hands, you are going down, chumps!
Then we need to back up our bad attitude with aggressive and nasty play. Take the attitude that they’re going to call fouls on Theo, we are going to get our moneys worth.
In short, play aggressive. Play hard. Win!
Do you include Michigan State in that, or is it a bridge too far?
I remember Julius Peppers had a great game against MU the last time MU went to the Dean Dome (13 & 9).
82, will you be there?
NC beating Louisville tonight 83-50
The chances of us winning this game are approximately 2%, but it will be fun.
How good is Louisville- Xavierish?
It’s like this: I want MU to win out AND I want wojo fired.
Ok, this is the first step in the Marquette University, bad ass, take no prisoners revival.
We need to go into NC with a really bad attitude, play had and truly kick ass. If we foul, and we will, make sure the other guy does not get up. Scowl as your introduced and tell UNC as you shake hands, you are going down, chumps!
Then we need to back up our bad attitude with aggressive and nasty play. Take the attitude that they’re going to call fouls on Theo, we are going to get our moneys worth.
In short, play aggressive. Play hard. Win!
I mean, if we truly win out I don't think we can fire a coach after a national championship run ;D
I mean, if we truly win out I don't think we can fire a coach after a national championship run ;D
UNC vs. Marquette and that’s your first thought. You seem like a really fun guy to be around.
Good god, Louisville shot 6.2% from three yesterday (1/16) and UNC grabbed 47.1% of the offensive rebounds available. The Cards also turned it over 16 times. That feels like the kind of game Marquette could have, and exactly what they need to avoid to pull off an upset.wojo has a plan brah. Just as Al busted the 4 corners. 😂
Considering the loss of revenue from this season, I have no issues with MU being "bought" to play at UNC. It's certainly not going to affect any post-season opportunities. In college football, this is like a team scheduling a game at Hawaii in December knowing they won't be playing in the Weed-eater Bowl.
Does MU receive money for this game?
We’re 10-12 and just beat an awful 7-12 team; the optimism is running a little low
Hope I’m wrong
They have to receive something. $$$ or a return trip. Otherwise why play?UNC revenues off $30 million. So likely no dollars involved.
So, just the fourth MU/UNC match up since 1977? 1986 at the MECCA, 2000 when Julius Peppers body slammed Greg Clausen, and that ass kicking they gave us in Newark in the 2011 tourney, right?
I mean, if we truly win out I don't think we can fire a coach after a national championship run ;DI guess I thought that winning out anything past the regular season so improbable I didn't consider it in my comment.
Well said and very true. We need to play with fire like we did against Wisconsin and Butler. We also need Justin Lewis healthy. It's Gold blood vs. Blue blood. Go Warriors kick ass.
So, just the fourth MU/UNC match up since 1977? 1986 at the MECCA, 2000 when Julius Peppers body slammed Greg Clausen, and that ass kicking they gave us in Newark in the 2011 tourney, right?
UNC owes us a home game from way back, maybe the mid to late 90’s. Had a home and away with them. Played at UNC. They then declined to come to MU and instead paid some sort of a buyout.
Should have been a game at MU! They truly are evil.
Who says we aren't getting paid? Maybe we're not but I haven't seen that anywhere. I'd imagine we at least get paid via the television provider.
Adding this game changes the calculus on making the tournament. It's theoretically possible that winning out could secure a bid. I don't see us winning out, but if there's hope, why wouldn't the staff try to get a Q1 game on the schedule?
I think there's value to the young guys getting to play at a storied stadium like the Dean Smith Center. I'm sure they are excited about the chance to play a blue blood on their home floor. I'm sure it doesn't hurt that they will get to play against RJ Davis on the off chance that he may be rethinking his college decision.
Mostly, I think the staff probably thinks they can win.
So, plenty of reasons to schedule this game, money, experience for the younger guys, raises the chances of an at large from 0% to something above 0%, and avoiding a 10 day break in the middle of the season. Really no downside because if you lose, you're still where you were before the game got scheduled except you get to keep the money and the experience.
How does a blow out set us back further? Missing the tournament with 15 losses is the same as missing the tournament with 16 losses.
An injury would set us back if it was lasting but using that logic we should cancel the rest of the season.
So, we are down to our last $5 in our wallet at the casino after losing everything. We are putting it all on red-12 because we have nothing more to lose. No downside.
Like a compulsive gambler, the program is only living in the present and not thinking about the future. If we get blown out, or experience another injury, it sets us back further. Although I guess it doesn't matter if Wojo returns next year regardless since the school can't afford a buyout.
So, we are down to our last $5 in our wallet at the casino after losing everything. We are putting it all on red-12 because we have nothing more to lose. No downside.
Like a compulsive gambler, the program is only living in the present and not thinking about the future. If we get blown out, or experience another injury, it sets us back further. Although I guess it doesn't matter if Wojo returns next year regardless since the school can't afford a buyout.
As improbable as it may be, if Marquette goes 2-0 this week, they're right back in the bubble mix. Not on the right side, but in the conversation, and then favored in their last two games, most likely.
Going for it is the right thing to do, even if it'll most likely just add one to the L column.
As improbable as it may be, if Marquette goes 2-0 this week, they're right back in the bubble mix. Not on the right side, but in the conversation, and then favored in their last two games, most likely.
Going for it is the right thing to do, even if it'll most likely just add one to the L column.
Maybe they are playing the game because they are a basketball team and they like to play basketball games.
I know. Crazy right?
And North Carolina offered a game, and ESPN is likely making it worth our while to go out there, and Wojo knows what a special place Chapel Hill is and thinks it would be fun to experience during a sh*tty season.
Sometimes people overthink things.
Mostly, I think the staff probably thinks they can win.
It certainly is a no lose situation. You're far more in tune with the bubble this year and I, but I'd imagine Marquette would need to win out to at least the BET semis to have a chance at an at large bid. 15-13 at that point. Highly doubt 14-14 does it.
It would be nice to figure out a way to that Gtown game on the schedule just to add another likely W.
https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/team/marquette-golden-eagles/bracketology (https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/team/marquette-golden-eagles/bracketology)
We are projected to finish 12-15, with a 0.3% prediction of making an at-large bid. We have a greater chance of winning the BET at 1.8%. Combined, MU has a 2.1% chance of going dancing this year. Teams need 18 wins to be safely in. 17 or less and it gets dicey. 15 wins just isn’t enough based on the projections. Might get to 13-16 if we win first game of the BET.
Some here were unhappy about the win over Butler because was not a good enough opponent. Now they are unhappy that we are going to play UNC and risk getting beat badly. I do not expect the game to end well for Marquette but there is always the chance of an upset, even if it is slight. If we get blown out, there is partial cover from UNC's demolishing Lville 99-54 in their previous game.
The pluses are the slight chance of an upset, a break from what would have been a 10 day layoff, a chance for our team to play a blueblood (even if they are having a miserable year), and an opportunity for Wojo to get his name and face in front of the ACC. Hopefully we put up an effort good enough to attract the attention of Boston College.
https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/team/marquette-golden-eagles/bracketology (https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/team/marquette-golden-eagles/bracketology)
We are projected to finish 12-15, with a 0.3% prediction of making an at-large bid. We have a greater chance of winning the BET at 1.8%. Combined, MU has a 2.1% chance of going dancing this year. Teams need 18 wins to be safely in. 17 or less and it gets dicey. 15 wins just isn’t enough based on the projections. Might get to 13-16 if we win first game of the BET.
We're unhappy because the program sucks after 7 years of mediocrity and no light at the end of the tunnel that I can see. However I will still cheer the team on despite our pathetic circumstances.
Don't you think that this is two Jordan Brand schools in needs of wins helping each other out?
Maybe they are playing the game because they are a basketball team and they like to play basketball games.
I know. Crazy right?
And North Carolina offered a game, and ESPN is likely making it worth our while to go out there, and Wojo knows what a special place Chapel Hill is and thinks it would be fun to experience during a sh*tty season.
Sometimes people overthink things.
https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/team/marquette-golden-eagles/bracketology (https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/team/marquette-golden-eagles/bracketology)
We are projected to finish 12-15, with a 0.3% prediction of making an at-large bid. We have a greater chance of winning the BET at 1.8%. Combined, MU has a 2.1% chance of going dancing this year. Teams need 18 wins to be safely in. 17 or less and it gets dicey. 15 wins just isn’t enough based on the projections. Might get to 13-16 if we win first game of the BET.
Don't you think that this is two Jordan Brand schools in needs of wins helping each other out?
Bill Scholl and Bubba Cunningham (UNC AD) are close friends. Roy wanted a home game. Scholl has been trying to get a game with UNC for several years. Bubba reached out to his old friend Scholl and now we have the game.
That's not a bad thought. Wonder if they were a conduit somehow? ESPN had to be a willing partner, but still.
Bill Scholl and Bubba Cunningham (UNC AD) are close friends. Roy wanted a home game. Scholl has been trying to get a game with UNC for several years. Bubba reached out to his old friend Scholl and now we have the game.
It's a nice theory Herman, but I'm pretty sure this was MU's idea, not UNC's.Here is the article where Roy describes his desire for getting some non conference home games.
Here is the article where Roy describes his desire for getting some non conference home games.
https://247sports.com/college/north-carolina/Article/UNC-basketball-marquette-schedule-game-161217330/
100% agree. Some are overthinking this. Great opportunity to play a team we normally don’t get to play. If our team plays well I think we have a chance to win as well. There is no downside to playing this game.
So you read an article that indicated UNC was open to adding games and wrote a fan fiction about it? Pretty sure I'd trust TAMU here.No fiction at all. Bill Scholl has been saying publicly ,and privately, for several years that he wants to get a series with UNC. Scholl is close friends with Bubba Cunningham , because they worked together at ND Sucks.
No fiction at all. Bill Scholl has been saying publicly ,and privately, for several years that he wants to get a series with UNC. Scholl is close friends with Bubba Cunningham , because they worked together at ND Sucks.
In the past Bubba has told Scholl, Roy has higher priorities than to schedule us. This has been publicly and privately stated. Now Roy has a priority to have a home game, and we have a priority to fill a spot in our schedule so the suns and moons lined up.
No fiction at all. Bill Scholl has been saying publicly ,and privately, for several years that he wants to get a series with UNC. Scholl is close friends with Bubba Cunningham , because they worked together at ND Sucks.
In the past Bubba has told Scholl, Roy has higher priorities than to schedule us. This has been publicly and privately stated. Now Roy has a priority to have a home game, and we have a priority to fill a spot in our schedule so the suns and moons lined up.
So you are reiterating that this is based on old reports and a random article and no actual knowledge? Okay.
No fiction at all. Bill Scholl has been saying publicly ,and privately, for several years that he wants to get a series with UNC. Scholl is close friends with Bubba Cunningham , because they worked together at ND Sucks.
In the past Bubba has told Scholl, Roy has higher priorities than to schedule us. This has been publicly and privately stated. Now Roy has a priority to have a home game, and we have a priority to fill a spot in our schedule so the suns and moons lined up.
What Herman is saying isn’t incompatible with what TAMU is saying.
Without Lewis, I do not see how MU can win this one.
I just hope that we do as well as we did last time we played UNC.
Oh wait ...
That was a 946-3 loss for our Buzz-coached group -- a team that included one future NBA All-Star, another guy who would become a fine NBA player, and 3 others who would spend time on NBA rosters.
Wait ... I think the Heels just scored on us again.
I just hope that we do as well as we did last time we played UNC.
Oh wait ...
That was a 946-3 loss for our Buzz-coached group -- a team that included one future NBA All-Star, another guy who would become a fine NBA player, and 3 others who would spend time on NBA rosters.
Wait ... I think the Heels just scored on us again.
I just hope that we do as well as we did last time we played UNC.That was one of the worst game plans ever. Buzz did not want UNC fast breaking on our missed threes, so he told our players not to shoot from the outside. We kept trying to get the ball inside to Otule, who ended up with zero points for the game. UNC turned our turnovers on passes to Otule into fast break points. I can understand Buzz being worried about UNC fast breaking on missed threes, but he missed the obvious point which was the only chance we had to win the game was to make threes. You cannot make threes, if you do not shoot them.
Oh wait ...
That was a 946-3 loss for our Buzz-coached group -- a team that included one future NBA All-Star, another guy who would become a fine NBA player, and 3 others who would spend time on NBA rosters.
Wait ... I think the Heels just scored on us again.
That was one of the worst game plans ever. Buzz did not want UNC fast breaking on our missed threes, so he told our players not to shoot from the outside. We kept trying to get the ball inside to Otule, who ended up with zero points for the game. UNC turned our turnovers on passes to Otule into fast break points. I can understand Buzz being worried about UNC fast breaking on missed threes, but he missed the obvious point which was the only chance we had to win the game was to make threes. You cannot make threes, if you do not shoot them.
Next time we play Murray State, I’ll be on the lookout for a similar post from you re: Wojo.
You don't have to wait ...
I think Ja just scored again!
That was one of the worst game plans ever. Buzz did not want UNC fast breaking on our missed threes, so he told our players not to shoot from the outside. We kept trying to get the ball inside to Otule, who ended up with zero points for the game. UNC turned our turnovers on passes to Otule into fast break points. I can understand Buzz being worried about UNC fast breaking on missed threes, but he missed the obvious point which was the only chance we had to win the game was to make threes. You cannot make threes, if you do not shoot them.
That may be the only S16 in MU history where we were a true Cinderella/ didn’t deserve to be there. Every other year we’ve been favored to advance that far or at least in the convo (6 seed in ‘94 for example).
Have ya herd da won 'bout playas bein' tired too games inta da seesun, hey?
In ‘77 we finished the regular season 7th in the AP Poll and 14th in the UPI.
Oh wait ...
That was a 946-3 loss for our Buzz-coached group -- a team that included one future NBA All-Star, another guy who would become a fine NBA player, and 3 others who would spend time on NBA rosters.
Wait ... I think the Heels just scored on us again.
Yes, but despite the rankings, we were firmly on the bubble. In fact, there was speculation that our huge first half at Michigan got us in. And even once we got in, many expected MU to be one and done.
BW (Before Wojo) it was embarrassing to be a Marquette fan. Nothing worse than getting pounded after reaching the FF, E8 or S16. Now we regularly 965-1 but it’s OK. Wojo’s done for MU basketball what I thought to be impossible: almost nobody knows and even fewer people care. Banner worthy, a’ina?
We were #2 in the nation when the season started. We were loaded. The distraction of Al’s retirement hung over that team and it underachieved. We were on the bubble when we went on the road for 5 games to finish the season. After we won the first 4 we were 20-6 and likely in. After a solid first half at #2 Michigan (I think we were up 5 or 6 at the break) the announcement came.
I’m sure “many” expected us to be one and done, but many more didn’t. We were the clear betting favorite in all of our tournament games except the final vs UNC.
News Observer article: https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/article249452030.html
Wojo likes the boos“Obviously, the atmosphere will be much different than what I’m accustomed to in the Dean Dome,” Wojciechowski said. “I’m kind of disappointed I won’t get any boos because that’s what I’m used to when I go over there.”
They will practice in Cameron tomorrow before heading to UConnWojciechowski will take his new school to see the old while they’re so close. He said the team will stay in Chapel Hill Wednesday night and practice in Cameron Indoor Stadium on Thursday before leaving for UConn.
Read more here: https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/article249452030.html#storylink=cpy
Read more here: https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/article249452030.html#storylink=cpy
News Observer article: https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/article249452030.html (https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/article249452030.html)
Wojo likes the boos
“Obviously, the atmosphere will be much different than what I’m accustomed to in the Dean Dome,” Wojciechowski said. “I’m kind of disappointed I won’t get any boos because that’s what I’m used to when I go over there.”
Wojciechowski will take his new school to see the old while they’re so close. He said the team will stay in Chapel Hill Wednesday night and practice in Cameron Indoor Stadium on Thursday before leaving for UConn.
He’s probably gettin’ used to it at Fiserv too, hey?
That’s very cool that they are practicing at Cameron. If nothing else, this will be a trip the players can tell their kids and grandkids about. Hopefully the story includes a win.