2024 Coaching Carousel

[avid1010]

  it seems like being a d-bag comes easily to you...shocker!!  you always have to be a contrarian or wtf?!?

yeah, one of the most coveted jobs in basketball and they are probably going to offer it to a "cheater"??  nothing to do with considering a guy who beneath it all is a decent person who can coach err anything

i know this may be asking A LOT, but grow up a little bit

This is awesome.  You are questioning if Kentucky (home of Rick Pitino, Billy Gillispie, and Jon Calipari) would offer the position to a self-admitted (Drew) cheater?  Look...there's good odds this thing comes down to a guy who oversaw a program in which someone's immigration status was used to try to force him to a school and a guy who beat his girlfriend.

All that said, the most hilarious part of all this is that you were sure he was going to Louisville, and then Kentucky opens and you were sure he didn't take Louisville because he was waiting on Kentucky (in which case you shouldn't have been so sure he was taking Louisville). 

All this after having inside info on Michigan as well. 

I think you might be Trilly Donovan...

[jutaw22mu]

If you were serious, you would have written this in your first post.
But your first post mentioned nothing of her accomplishments. Which is pretty weird, given how much you care about women's athletics. Instead, your first post only took a swipe at her stance on transgender athletes.
Please stop now and let the thread stay on topic.

Oh, got it.  Both you and Hippie Hyperbole of whatever the hell his name is both know me and my intentions better than I do.  Why don't you both mansplain a little more to me about what I think.

[wadesworld]

  it seems like being a d-bag comes easily to you...shocker!!  you always have to be a contrarian or wtf?!?

yeah, one of the most coveted jobs in basketball and they are probably going to offer it to a "cheater"??  nothing to do with considering a guy who beneath it all is a decent person who can coach err anything

i know this may be asking A LOT, but grow up a little bit

You do realize that the guy they gave their coveted job to last was...well, a cheater, right?  And continued to be a cheater while holding that coveted job.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Oh, got it.  Both you and Hippie Hyperbole of whatever the hell his name is both know me and my intentions better than I do.  Why don't you both mansplain a little more to me about what I think.

By the evidence presented, you clearly are a bigot and either don't have the intelligence or the self-control to keep your bigoted beliefs out of the Coaching Carousel topic.

[Skatastrophy]

I'm glad to see the forum round into offseason form so effortlessly. Keep up the great work everyone!

[Pakuni]

Oh, got it.  Both you and Hippie Hyperbole of whatever the hell his name is both know me and my intentions better than I do.  Why don't you both mansplain a little more to me about what I think.

When someone shows you who they are, believe them.

[cheebs09]

This is awesome.  You are questioning if Kentucky (home of Rick Pitino, Billy Gillispie, and Jon Calipari) would offer the position to a self-admitted (Drew) cheater?  Look...there's good odds this thing comes down to a guy who oversaw a program in which someone's immigration status was used to try to force him to a school and a guy who beat his girlfriend.

All that said, the most hilarious part of all this is that you were sure he was going to Louisville, and then Kentucky opens and you were sure he didn't take Louisville because he was waiting on Kentucky (in which case you shouldn't have been so sure he was taking Louisville). 

All this after having inside info on Michigan as well. 

I think you might be Trilly Donovan...

More like Trolly Donovan.

[jutaw22mu]

By the evidence presented, you clearly are a bigot and either don't have the intelligence or the self-control to keep your bigoted beliefs out of the Coaching Carousel topic.

You are so right. Tell me more, genius.

[tower912]

I think you might be Trilly Donovan...

Drilly Donovan...

[rocket surgeon]

Again, Baylor literally SELF-REPORTED violations that Drew and his staff made to the NCAA.

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/college-basketball/drews-cheating-stigma-now-has-merit

 you're missing the point sally.  i fully realize reeko et.al. want to grind in the "cheating" thing because he/they know i'm a fan of scott drew.  if the "cheating" filter is used for every hire, then fine.  let's do a character biopsy on everyone and conveniently glaze over the real character attributes of the whole person.  overall, scott is a decent person and if he was truly a "dirty" person, he wouldn't carry the respect he does.  yes, he is a spiritual person who tries not to wear it on his sleeve, but yes, he would prefer to go somewhere where he feels free to exercise that attribute

   we all know reeko doesn't need to pray because his picture is on God's tee shirts

[jutaw22mu]

When someone shows you who they are, believe them.

I guess I am just a lowly woman who is tired of men finding new ways to take away the limited opportunities that women have created for themselves. 

I stand by my comments that Dawn would be an amazing hire for Kentucky.  Of course she won't be considered because she is a woman, and how dare women cross over into spaces that were designed for men.

[tower912]

I agree with you.  Dawn is an amazing coach.  I don't think Kentucky is ready for a female African-American coach for the men's basketball team. 

[rocket surgeon]

This is awesome.  You are questioning if Kentucky (home of Rick Pitino, Billy Gillispie, and Jon Calipari) would offer the position to a self-admitted (Drew) cheater?  Look...there's good odds this thing comes down to a guy who oversaw a program in which someone's immigration status was used to try to force him to a school and a guy who beat his girlfriend.

All that said, the most hilarious part of all this is that you were sure he was going to Louisville, and then Kentucky opens and you were sure he didn't take Louisville because he was waiting on Kentucky (in which case you shouldn't have been so sure he was taking Louisville). 

All this after having inside info on Michigan as well. 


 
I think you might be Trilly Donovan...

  who the hell...listen jack wagon, i never said i was SURE he was going to louisville.  i merely said he was essentially being offered the job and he was considering it.  now get back to playing footsie with your buddies

[jutaw22mu]

It would be the coolest thing ever though...imagine a place like Kentucky making a move like that.  Totally progressive and a chance to rewrite the script on perceptions of that institution.

[WhiteTrash]

I agree with you.  Dawn is an amazing coach.  I don't think Kentucky is ready for a female African-American coach for the men's basketball team.

Hell Yes!!!!! Finally someone played the race card. I think this tread is now complete.

BTW, nice shot at the Kentucky bigots. 

[tower912]

It would be. 


And WT, how Tubby Smith was treated still hangs over that job.   

[wadesworld]

you're missing the point sally.  i fully realize reeko et.al. want to grind in the "cheating" thing because he/they know i'm a fan of scott drew.  if the "cheating" filter is used for every hire, then fine.  let's do a character biopsy on everyone and conveniently glaze over the real character attributes of the whole person.  overall, scott is a decent person and if he was truly a "dirty" person, he wouldn't carry the respect he does.  yes, he is a spiritual person who tries not to wear it on his sleeve, but yes, he would prefer to go somewhere where he feels free to exercise that attribute

   we all know reeko doesn't need to pray because his picture is on God's tee shirts

He carries so much respect from his peers that the only coach perceived to be a bigger cheater in college basketball is the guy he'd be replacing.  But Kentucky has too much dignity to hire a cheater to coach its men's basketball program.

[Oldgym]

It would be the coolest thing ever though...imagine a place like Kentucky making a move like that.  Totally progressive and a chance to rewrite the script on perceptions of that institution.

Dawn's a hell of a coach and I too hope it happens.

But not sure why you're here telling Marquette basketball fans this though. Get Mitch Barnhart on the line with your rec.

[Pakuni]

I guess I am just a lowly woman who is tired of men finding new ways to take away the limited opportunities that women have created for themselves. 

Yes, it's terrible when historically oppressed groups are denied opportunities.
You're this close to getting it.

[jutaw22mu]

Yes, it's terrible when historically oppressed groups are denied opportunities.
You're this close to getting it.

No one is saying they can't compete according to their biological sex, while still being allowed to express their gender identities.  However, their "validation" does not have to come at the expense of women's sports, and women's safety in sports/locker rooms.  Maybe it's their fellow men who are, in fact, the bigots.  Maybe you should be more accepting to transpeople wanting to compete in your categories.  Maybe Lia Thomas should have competed in men's swimming events (college and beyond) where they are more appropriate fit biologically.

Stating this does not make me a bigot or uneducated.  I have different life experiences from you on the basis of actually growing up as a woman and being a feminist and fighting for women's rights.  I earned a PhD in chemistry where few women do so, even today, because of harrassment from colleagues...our group of 17 had just 4 women.  I did a postdoc in academia and made notes of the very different ways women were treated and the number of women professors in my department.  I competed at very high levels in women's sports and had opportunities to do things like win state championships in team sports against other girls or compete for a spot in New Englands (track and field), while not having to worry about being injured by someone who was miscategorized. I also competed in coed sports where there are very clear differences in levels of physical ability -- speed and strength.  Sorry that you do not like or agree with my opinion, but it is a lived experience, which you cannot possibly appreciate as a man.

[MU82]

I guess I am just a lowly woman who is tired of men finding new ways to take away the limited opportunities that women have created for themselves. 

I stand by my comments that Dawn would be an amazing hire for Kentucky.  Of course she won't be considered because she is a woman, and how dare women cross over into spaces that were designed for men.

Except when you introduced Dawn Staley to this thread, you mentioned none of her abilities or accomplishments. You mentioned nothing about her being deserving, or about it being a potentially groundbreaking achievement that would reflect well on all women in the profession.

Instead, you took a cheap swipe at her for her comments about transgender athletes. Instead of talking about women's rights, you took a shot at transgender rights.

Only after getting pushback on your bigoted comment did you start talking about Staley's outstanding coaching ability.

So you can keep trying to obfuscate, but what you said in introducing Staley in this thread is right there for everybody to read.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

No one is saying they can't compete according to their biological sex, while still being allowed to express their gender identities.  However, their "validation" does not have to come at the expense of women's sports, and women's safety in sports/locker rooms.  Maybe it's their fellow men who are, in fact, the bigots.  Maybe you should be more accepting to transpeople wanting to compete in your categories.  Maybe Lia Thomas should have competed in men's swimming events (college and beyond) where they are more appropriate fit biologically.

Stating this does not make me a bigot or uneducated.  I have different life experiences from you on the basis of actually growing up as a woman and being a feminist and fighting for women's rights.  I earned a PhD in chemistry where few women do so, even today, because of harrassment from colleagues...our group of 17 had just 4 women.  I did a postdoc in academia and made notes of the very different ways women were treated and the number of women professors in my department.  I competed at very high levels in women's sports and had opportunities to do things like win state championships in team sports against other girls or compete for a spot in New Englands (track and field), while not having to worry about being injured by someone who was miscategorized. I also competed in coed sports where there are very clear differences in levels of physical ability -- speed and strength.  Sorry that you do not like or agree with my opinion, but it is a lived experience, which you cannot possibly appreciate as a man.

Too bad your experiences turned you into a bigot.

[Pakuni]

Sorry that you do not like or agree with my opinion, but it is a lived experience, which you cannot possibly appreciate as a man.

If only you had the same respect for others' lived experiences that you demand for yourself.

[MU82]

Anyhoo ... back to the Coaching Carousel ...

The Athletic listed 9 potential candidates, and Shaka was #9. Here's what they said:

It was made perfectly clear by Smart’s reps that he wasn’t interested in some prominent openings earlier in this cycle, but none of those jobs were Kentucky. The easy argument against this is that Smart already lived the life of a major, state school, hyper-high profile job, and it didn’t work out. But Texas and Kentucky are not remotely similar jobs. Kentucky is a basketball school — maybe the basketball school — and is the equivalent of Marquette on all available steroids. We wonder if Smart would have interest in turning his life upside down in the most dramatic way possible, but wouldn’t he at least have to answer the call, if it comes?

[jutaw22mu]

If only you had the same respect for others' lived experiences that you demand for yourself.

Same goes for you, buddy boy.