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Title: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: real chili 83 on August 27, 2016, 08:24:39 AM
Here in Mn, one third of the state's population visits the state fair.  That's 1.8 million in attendance.  SPW probably makes a killing letting people park on his front yard.   ;)

Tons of people go to the fair EVERY DAY of the fair.  The cheese curds are to die for, as well as anything on a stick.  Good people watching too.  For many, it's almost a cult like obsession.  For me, if I go once every other year, I'm good.  It can also get obnoxiously expensive, real quick in just a couple of hours.

Is your state fair as big of a tradition?  Are you an everyday fair attender?
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: Benny B on August 27, 2016, 08:45:00 AM
Does the 1.8M count the people who go to the state fair every day as 7 or 1?

My family tries to go to the WI state fair every year.... we only make it once every 2-3 years, though.
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: real chili 83 on August 27, 2016, 09:06:00 AM
Yes
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on August 27, 2016, 09:51:11 AM
Do they still sell only 3.2 beer?
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: GGGG on August 27, 2016, 10:01:55 AM
Part of the problem with the Wisconsin State Fair is that it isn't located in a central location.  While putting it in the Milwaukee area makes sense because of population, its simply not convenient for a good portion of the state.
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: 🏀 on August 27, 2016, 10:26:08 AM
Coming from a state with two state fairs, I've never understood it.
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: GooooMarquette on August 27, 2016, 12:01:01 PM
I have lived in MN for 18 years, and have never had any desire to go.  For people in rural areas, I guess it makes sense as a good place to show off your prize-winning livestock.  Otherwise, I don't get the appeal.
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: jsglow on August 27, 2016, 01:07:22 PM
We hadn't gone in over 20 years.  But we've attended the WI State Fair 2 years running now.  We certainly enjoyed ourselves utilizing a Monday 'summer hours' off day to lessen the crowds.
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on August 27, 2016, 01:21:39 PM
I have lived in MN for 18 years, and have never had any desire to go.  For people in rural areas, I guess it makes sense as a good place to show off your prize-winning livestock.  Otherwise, I don't get the appeal.

Had no desire or haven't gone.  If you haven't gone you should give it a try before forming an opinion.  I found the 'great MN get-together' to be quite fun and well done. 
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: GooooMarquette on August 27, 2016, 01:57:52 PM
Had no desire or haven't gone.  If you haven't gone you should give it a try before forming an opinion.  I found the 'great MN get-together' to be quite fun and well done.

Haven't gone because I have no desire.

I don't doubt that it's well done for what it is.  But when I looked at the map and listing of things to do, it's obvious that most of the stuff - animal displays, midway rides/games, greasy food - has no appeal to me.  I'm willing to deal with traffic jams and big crowds for things I really like - and I'm sure I'd find a few fun things and/or good food there - but I doubt it would be worth the hassle of getting there and fighting the crowd. 

Maybe if they moved it to November and hosted a MU-U of MN game....
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: real chili 83 on August 27, 2016, 02:23:41 PM
Haven't gone because I have no desire.

I don't doubt that it's well done for what it is.  But when I looked at the map and listing of things to do, it's obvious that most of the stuff - animal displays, midway rides/games, greasy food - has no appeal to me.  I'm willing to deal with traffic jams and big crowds for things I really like - and I'm sure I'd find a few fun things and/or good food there - but I doubt it would be worth the hassle of getting there and fighting the crowd. 

Maybe if they moved it to November and hosted a MU-U of MN game....
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I go about every other year. Last time was on Labor Day, as we had tickets to see Boz Scaggs, Michael McDonald, and Donald F@gen (Rocky, your spell check has gone amuck).  Ate a shi1t load of curds, hit the dairy barn for a shake, and ate thirty or so things on a stick.  Crowds weren't too bad, and good people watching. 

If you can avoid days that are hot, and huge crowds, it's worth it once in a while.  The biggest day they've seen had 252,000 people. NFW am I going on a day like that.
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 27, 2016, 03:34:22 PM
First job was working in the Giggles CampfireGrill booth at the MN state fair. I've always loved the state fair. Used to go at least once a year when I lived in WI and MN. State fair is huge in Texas but I haven't made it up there yet. It's in Dallas which is a three hour drive for me
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: HouWarrior on August 27, 2016, 03:48:55 PM
Teaxs State Fair has its grounds in Dallas, east-side...over by the old Cotton Bowl, rougher side of town nowadays...yet,...it still drew 2.8 million...but few from Houston attend (mostly DFW and East Texas rurals).

Houston's Livestock Show and Rodeo each February instead draws 2.6 million....By far and away its the money maker/more influential partner than are the NFL Texans on matters involving the Dome and Reliant Stadium property decisions.

San Antonio Rodeo (the one that forces the Spurs out on the road for 3 weeks every year) also drew 2.1 million

In many ways the rodeos are like state fairs too...given the way the rural folks come in, the trailrides, BBQ cookout weekend, the big acts playing during rodeos, the carnival grounds, and the livestock shown/auctioned.

All three are charitably run....sending generations of kids to colleges on scholarships...many Aggies
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: GGGG on August 27, 2016, 04:02:48 PM
All three are charitably run....sending generations of kids to colleges on scholarships...many Aggies

So two positives and one negative?
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: rocket surgeon on August 27, 2016, 04:08:27 PM
Never did understand the biscuit with cool whip thing.  To stand in line and have to pay for that glop?  I'd rather waste the calories,on a bacon cheese burger on a stick or something
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: HouWarrior on August 27, 2016, 04:15:49 PM
So two positives and one negative?
Well lets stay in the charitable mode and say that becoming an Aggie is an acquired taste. lol
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: forgetful on August 27, 2016, 04:16:06 PM
Teaxs State Fair has its grounds in Dallas, east-side...over by the old Cotton Bowl, rougher side of town nowadays...yet,...it still drew 2.8 million...but few from Houston attend (mostly DFW and East Texas rurals).

Houston's Livestock Show and Rodeo each February instead draws 2.6 million....By far and away its the money maker/more influential partner than are the NFL Texans on matters involving the Dome and Reliant Stadium property decisions.

San Antonio Rodeo (the one that forces the Spurs out on the road for 3 weeks every year) also drew 2.1 million

In many ways the rodeos are like state fairs too...given the way the rural folks come in, the trailrides, BBQ cookout weekend, the big acts playing during rodeos, the carnival grounds, and the livestock shown/auctioned.

All three are charitably run....sending generations of kids to colleges on scholarships...many Aggies

I would rather go to the Wurstfest in New Braunfels than any of the above you list.  If your looking for meat on a stick, beer and polka, not a better place to go.
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: HouWarrior on August 27, 2016, 04:31:28 PM
I would rather go to the Wurstfest in New Braunfels than any of the above you list.  If your looking for meat on a stick, beer and polka, not a better place to go.
Its the best/Wurstfest in Texas
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: mu_hilltopper on August 27, 2016, 05:12:20 PM
The MN State Fair is indeed a cultish phenomenon, it sets the bar high.  The WI one is .. fine.

I did go to the WI fair this year.  What I'd like to know is .. why do farmers go to fairs?

Going thru the livestock areas, you see these farm families, sitting around for hours and hours (and days?) watching all the city folk walk thru, or even sleeping there, amongst the cow poop and flies.   Is that fun?

I mean, I get it, it's kind of their business category's convention.  But it would seem that other conventions are waaaay more fun and interesting, and don't require what has to be a hassle of packing up animal(s) in trailers, moving them around, grooming them for the show (?) et cetera.   I get it if you're 12 and you raised Bessie and this is your idea of fun .. but the adult farmers? 

What's the payoff?
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: HouWarrior on August 27, 2016, 05:44:29 PM
The MN State Fair is indeed a cultish phenomenon, it sets the bar high.  The WI one is .. fine.

I did go to the WI fair this year.  What I'd like to know is .. why do farmers go to fairs?

Going thru the livestock areas, you see these farm families, sitting around for hours and hours (and days?) watching all the city folk walk thru, or even sleeping there, amongst the cow poop and flies.   Is that fun?

I mean, I get it, it's kind of their business category's convention.  But it would seem that other conventions are waaaay more fun and interesting, and don't require what has to be a hassle of packing up animal(s) in trailers, moving them around, grooming them for the show (?) et cetera.   I get it if you're 12 and you raised Bessie and this is your idea of fun .. but the adult farmers? 

What's the payoff?

Cityslicker talk.

Farmers going to county fairs and advancing to state fairs is the central historical raison d' etre of state fairs.

It isnt strictly monetary....and thats the charm of it. Pride, socializing, awards, increase reputation and breeding income. A highly decorated bull generates semen fees of great value,..... but ultimately....like the quilts, jellies and pies....there is fun in just being the best.

My paralegal raised prized  horses for barrel races and she and her daughter spent mucho money and travel every weekend to small rodeos...there never was any profit in their expensive hobby...but 20 years later mom and daughter are still very close....a great personal payoff
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 27, 2016, 05:55:19 PM
So two positives and one negative?

Hey now
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: brewcity77 on August 27, 2016, 07:18:47 PM
Part of the problem with the Wisconsin State Fair is that it isn't located in a central location.  While putting it in the Milwaukee area makes sense because of population, its simply not convenient for a good portion of the state.

That, and most anyone past Waukesha is scared to come to the big, bad city. Probably doesn't help that we had that little riot (err...flash mob) at the State Fair a few years back. I'd love to know the county-by-county breakdown for the Wisconsin State Fair. I'd guess 90% of the attendees are from Milwaukee, Waukesha, Racine, Washington, Ozaukee, and Kenosha Counties. Other than the exhibitors, it's pretty much all city or city-suburb folk.
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: keefe on August 27, 2016, 09:06:00 PM
"A humble gathering of stoners..."

https://www.hempfest.org/

Washington has two fairs

(http://reformca.org/assets/components/phpthumbof/cache/hempfest.ec8276fe78f9ed639b0d3aa539ca0a1d.jpg)
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: mu_hilltopper on August 27, 2016, 10:08:10 PM
Cityslicker talk.

Farmers going to county fairs and advancing to state fairs is the central historical raison d' etre of state fairs.

It isnt strictly monetary....and thats the charm of it. Pride, socializing, awards, increase reputation and breeding income. A highly decorated bull generates semen fees of great value,..... but ultimately....like the quilts, jellies and pies....there is fun in just being the best.



And .. I get that, I guess.  But are all those cows, horses, pigs, goats, bunnies .. are they all entered in "best of" competitions?   (I would have guessed that only some of them are.)
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: GooooMarquette on August 27, 2016, 10:43:51 PM
And .. I get that, I guess.  But are all those cows, horses, pigs, goats, bunnies .. are they all entered in "best of" competitions?   (I would have guessed that only some of them are.)

I have always wondered why humans choose the best cow, pig, and such.  Shouldn't the other cows, pigs, etc. choose?
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: HouWarrior on August 27, 2016, 10:47:18 PM
And .. I get that, I guess.  But are all those cows, horses, pigs, goats, bunnies .. are they all entered in "best of" competitions?   (I would have guessed that only some of them are.)
The winner of a county/multi county fair is usually eligible to go to state....how many county fairs are there in the state?
There were 96 county fairs in Minnesota in 2016...if only half decide to go on to state it makes for some pretty full exhibit barns
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: rocket surgeon on August 27, 2016, 10:51:36 PM
I have always wondered why humans choose the best cow, pig, and such.  Shouldn't the other cows, pigs, etc. choose?

Yeah, but they are all about equal, except some of them are more EQUAL than the others
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: forgetful on August 28, 2016, 02:02:16 AM
I have always wondered why humans choose the best cow, pig, and such.  Shouldn't the other cows, pigs, etc. choose?

Because we are the ones that are going to eat them.
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: Jay Bee on August 28, 2016, 08:49:11 AM
MN state fair occasionally has good music. That's an understandable draw, IMO.

People-watching is good.

What surprises me is how many folks go there to SHOP, and many of them make BIG purchases. Lots of vendors do well there.
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: 4everwarriors on August 28, 2016, 08:57:47 AM
MN state fair occasionally has good music. That's an understandable draw, IMO.

People-watching is good.

What surprises me is how many folks go there to SHOP, and many of them make BIG purchases. Lots of vendors do well there.


Is dat wear ya got yo latest blow up doll, hey?
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: GooooMarquette on August 28, 2016, 09:11:40 AM
Because we are the ones that are going to eat them.

That's the first explanation I've heard that makes sense.
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: real chili 83 on August 28, 2016, 10:02:08 AM
Martha's cookies grosses $3 million in 12 days at the fair.
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 28, 2016, 06:19:36 PM
The animals at Hempfest can also be eaten...

Come on Keefe. Posting pictures of attractive women is one thing. But lowering them to "animals" for men's consumption is a little too much.
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: mr.MUskie on August 28, 2016, 07:22:53 PM
That, and most anyone past Waukesha is scared to come to the big, bad city. Probably doesn't help that we had that little riot (err...flash mob) at the State Fair a few years back. I'd love to know the county-by-county breakdown for the Wisconsin State Fair. I'd guess 90% of the attendees are from Milwaukee, Waukesha, Racine, Washington, Ozaukee, and Kenosha Counties. Other than the exhibitors, it's pretty much all city or city-suburb folk.

In Chicago we call riots Ethnic Street Festivals.
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: rocket surgeon on August 31, 2016, 05:13:40 AM

Is dat wear ya got yo latest blow up doll, hey?

Only if  she was on a stick, 'ey?
Title: Re: State Fair Phenomenon
Post by: real chili 83 on August 31, 2016, 09:57:23 PM
Heading over tomorrow.  Death by cheese curds.