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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: Eldon on September 15, 2013, 11:26:32 AM
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Guys, arguably the greatest show of all time or easily the greatest show of all time?
Anyway, Saul is getting his own spin-off. They're calling it 'Better Call Saul'. Awesome. He's right up there with Jack Donoghee (sp?) of 30 Rock as my favorite tv character of all time.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2013/09/11/breaking-bad-spinoff-saul-goodman/2801281/
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I would have preferred a Badger and Skinny Pete spinoff, but will be interested in this.
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I would have preferred a Badger and Skinny Pete spinoff, but will be interested in this.
That could still happen. How many spinoffs did "The Mary Tyler Moore Show" and "All in the Family" spawn?
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Guys, arguably the greatest show of all time or easily the greatest show of all time?
I honestly don't even know what it is.
I've heard the name, but zero idea what it's about / when it's on / where, etc.
I'll take Cheers if forced to watch fiction.
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I hadn't watched the show until about 2 months ago, then just went on a marathon watching binge.
Awesome show.
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For those of you who have seen the whole series to date, jimmy fallon did a great parody sketch called "joking bad" recently which just nailed some of the characters.
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For those of you who have seen the whole series to date, jimmy fallon did a great parody sketch called "joking bad" recently which just nailed some of the characters.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/09/12/joking_bad_jimmy_fallon_s_breaking_bad_parody_is_epic_has_jay_leno_aaron.html
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I hadn't watched the show until about 2 months ago, then just went on a marathon watching binge.
Awesome show.
Same here. Never watched the show until friends and relatives recommended it about a month ago. Watched a couple episodes on Netflix and got hooked before I realized they were on Season 5. Got all caught up in 10 days.
BTW, "Saul" (Bob Odenkirk) is from Naperville, IL.
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I honestly don't even know what it is.
I've heard the name, but zero idea what it's about / when it's on / where, etc.
I'll take Cheers if forced to watch fiction.
I'm not a big fiction guy myself, but this show is def worth watching. There's only three episodes left in the entire series (hence the spin-off). It's an AMC show, but really owes its popularity to Netflix.
In a word, this high school chemistry school teacher gets cancer and starts making/selling meth to collect money to pay his bills and provide for his family's future.
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As big a fan as anyone but I'm not that high on this spinoff.
It's a prequel, about how Saul became Saul before he met Walter White. And it's supposed to be a comedy.
Frankly this doesn't sound that interesting and maybe explains why AMC dragged their feet so long in picking it up. (AMC was pitched on this idea months go but only agreed to it last week, and only after another network was ready to agree.)
I'll watch it but I'm not holding my breath.
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As big a fan as anyone but I'm not that high on this spinoff.
It's a prequel, about how Saul became Saul before he met Walter White. And it's supposed to be a comedy.
Frankly this doesn't sound that interesting and maybe explains why AMC dragged their feet so long in picking it up. (AMC was pitched on this idea months go but only agreed to it last week, and only after another network was ready to agree.)
I'll watch it but I'm not holding my breath.
+1, this feels like the "Joey" spinoff of "Friends"
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Still think "24" is way better. Jack Bower tops them all. The story line was better and unpredictable.
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Still think "24" is way better. Jack Bower tops them all. The story line was better and unpredictable.
If 24 was anything, it was predictable especially every action scene.
Additionally, Walter White the character is much more complex and engaging that Jack Bauer could ever been due to his 'do right' role.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed 24, but not really comparable.
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If 24 was anything, it was predictable especially every action scene.
Additionally, Walter White the character is much more complex and engaging that Jack Bauer could ever been due to his 'do right' role.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed 24, but not really comparable.
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24 was a good show, but this season of Breaking Bad might be the best season of television in history.
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Now that Breaking Bad is coming to an end I'm glad Walking Dead is starting up again!
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Better Call Saul sounds like an awful idea. I love Bob Odenkirk and the between-season shorts with Saul as the main character were awesome, but it's not a show in and of itself.
What has been the toughest bit for me about this is watching Dexter and Breaking Bad both end. Early on, Dexter was in my opinion some of the greatest television in history. It really hit its height with John Lithgow as the Season 4 villain, but started to fall off starkly with Season 6. This season of Dexter has been tough to watch and way too predictable.
At the same time, Breaking Bad gets better every week. I would be hard pressed to name any better show. Firefly had the potential but was poorly marketed and pulled way too soon. I love watching Breaking Bad right now, but wish they would let it go. This show is going out triumphant. It's funny...the more Walter White has transformed to darkness, the better Breaking Bad has become, while Dexter Morgan's efforts to become the good guy have only made Dexter a less watchable show.
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Still think "24" is way better. Jack Bower tops them all. The story line was better and unpredictable.
there are only so many times the Jack Bauer could "save the world" and still be believable and those were used up in seasons 1 & 2
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Better Call Saul sounds like an awful idea. I love Bob Odenkirk and the between-season shorts with Saul as the main character were awesome, but it's not a show in and of itself.
What has been the toughest bit for me about this is watching Dexter and Breaking Bad both end. Early on, Dexter was in my opinion some of the greatest television in history. It really hit its height with John Lithgow as the Season 4 villain, but started to fall off starkly with Season 6. This season of Dexter has been tough to watch and way too predictable.
At the same time, Breaking Bad gets better every week. I would be hard pressed to name any better show. Firefly had the potential but was poorly marketed and pulled way too soon. I love watching Breaking Bad right now, but wish they would let it go. This show is going out triumphant. It's funny...the more Walter White has transformed to darkness, the better Breaking Bad has become, while Dexter Morgan's efforts to become the good guy have only made Dexter a less watchable show.
Agree 100%.
Dexter was a great show (and I think you pretty much nailed when it jumped the shark, right after season 4), but is almost unwatchable this season. Its predictable and repetitive. I don't even really care anymore, I just watch it because I've come this far and its almost over.
Breaking bad started off slow but by season 3 it was the best thing on television and has been getting better ever since.
Also agree the spinoff is a terrible idea. I'd rather see a Gus Fring prequel.
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Also agree the spinoff is a terrible idea. I'd rather see a Gus Fring prequel.
Now that would be an excellent idea.
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Ray Donovan
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In semi-related news, AMC is starting a spin-off of Walking Dead in 2015 focusing on another group of survivors without having to follow the comic boom storyline.
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Agree 100%.
Dexter was a great show (and I think you pretty much nailed when it jumped the shark, right after season 4), but is almost unwatchable this season. Its predictable and repetitive. I don't even really care anymore, I just watch it because I've come this far and its almost over.
Breaking bad started off slow but by season 3 it was the best thing on television and has been getting better ever since.
Also agree the spinoff is a terrible idea. I'd rather see a Gus Fring prequel.
I echo your thoughts on Dexter.
Never watched any of these series until last year when I got Netflix. Didn't realize there was this quality of shows out there. There is nothing I watch on network TV except sports. Last interesting network show was NYPD Blue.
But with Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Walking Dead, Rescue Me, and Sons of Anarchy - there is real quality work going on. The Shield was the best - absolutely brilliant - though BB and Mad Men come close.
I think CBS tried to emulate that with Under the Dome, but I'll wait for it to appear on Netflix to watch it.
But the writing and creativity seem to be concentrated in this area now and I don't see that changing. Add in the original content on HBO and Showtime and there is no reason to ever have to stoop to network TV again.
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I echo your thoughts on Dexter.
Never watched any of these series until last year when I got Netflix. Didn't realize there was this quality of shows out there. There is nothing I watch on network TV except sports. Last interesting network show was NYPD Blue.
But with Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Walking Dead, Rescue Me, and Sons of Anarchy - there is real quality work going on. The Shield was the best - absolutely brilliant - though BB and Mad Men come close.
I think CBS tried to emulate that with Under the Dome, but I'll wait for it to appear on Netflix to watch it.
But the writing and creativity seem to be concentrated in this area now and I don't see that changing. Add in the original content on HBO and Showtime and there is no reason to ever have to stoop to network TV again.
Man you hit the nail on the head. Though I think Mad Men and Dexter are definitely past their prime. Also heard that the Wire is in that upper echelon of great shows.
And 24 is definitely a great show, but sheesh how many times is the guy's daughter going to get kidnapped? Comparing it to breaking bad is, well, not even close to say the least.
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I echo your thoughts on Dexter.
Never watched any of these series until last year when I got Netflix. Didn't realize there was this quality of shows out there. There is nothing I watch on network TV except sports. Last interesting network show was NYPD Blue.
But with Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Walking Dead, Rescue Me, and Sons of Anarchy - there is real quality work going on. The Shield was the best - absolutely brilliant - though BB and Mad Men come close.
I think CBS tried to emulate that with Under the Dome, but I'll wait for it to appear on Netflix to watch it.
But the writing and creativity seem to be concentrated in this area now and I don't see that changing. Add in the original content on HBO and Showtime and there is no reason to ever have to stoop to network TV again.
Agree. Game of thrones and boardwalk empire are also great, but not Breaking Bad great
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Ray Donovan
Couldn't keep my interest, gave it a shot
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Man you hit the nail on the head. Though I think Mad Men and Dexter are definitely past their prime. Also heard that the Wire is in that upper echelon of great shows.
And 24 is definitely a great show, but sheesh how many times is the guy's daughter going to get kidnapped? Comparing it to breaking bad is, well, not even close to say the least.
In my opinion, The Wire is the best show ever put on television.
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In my opinion, The Wire is the best show ever put on television.
I've heard that often. It's next on my list.
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the wire was good, but Breaking Bad is great. Best series to date. I've watched since the pilot, recorded seasons at a time and re-watched. I still watch the pilot every so often. A full-length movie in itself. The complexity of Walter and Jesse's characters makes the show what it is.
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I honestly don't even know what it is.
I've heard the name, but zero idea what it's about / when it's on / where, etc.
I'll take Cheers if forced to watch fiction.
Excellent. Criticize something you know nothing about.
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Couldn't keep my interest, gave it a shot
I'm digging Ray Donovan. Jon Voight should win an Emmy. He's absolutely fantastic.
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Excellent. Criticize something you know nothing about.
I didn't criticize it. You're making things up.
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I like Saul. Always cracks me up. But nowhere near the team picture for best characters of all time.
How about Archie Bunker? Mr. Spock? J.R. Ewing?
How about Kramer and Costanza?
How about Walter White and Dexter Morgan and Tony Soprano?
How about Al Swearengen, Vic Mackey and Andy Sipowicz?
How about (first-season) Fonzie and Frank Burns and Homer Simpson?
How about Larry David and Jack Bauer and Michael Scott?
How about a few dozen -- or hundred -- others I probably have left out because I don't feel like doing this any more?
Saul is a nice, minor character. Glad he existed. Hard to imagine him carrying his own show.
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I didn't criticize it. You're making things up.
"I'll take Cheers if forced to watch fiction" implies that you don't think highly enough of Breaking Bad to even check it out once. If I'm wrong about that, I apologize.
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Better Call Saul sounds like an awful idea. I love Bob Odenkirk and the between-season shorts with Saul as the main character were awesome, but it's not a show in and of itself.
What has been the toughest bit for me about this is watching Dexter and Breaking Bad both end. Early on, Dexter was in my opinion some of the greatest television in history. It really hit its height with John Lithgow as the Season 4 villain, but started to fall off starkly with Season 6. This season of Dexter has been tough to watch and way too predictable.
At the same time, Breaking Bad gets better every week. I would be hard pressed to name any better show. Firefly had the potential but was poorly marketed and pulled way too soon. I love watching Breaking Bad right now, but wish they would let it go. This show is going out triumphant. It's funny...the more Walter White has transformed to darkness, the better Breaking Bad has become, while Dexter Morgan's efforts to become the good guy have only made Dexter a less watchable show.
Totally loved the premise of Dexter right from the start: Serial killer who also happens to be a blood-spatter expert for the police. Brilliant. Michael C. Hall got nominated for the Emmy just about every year and deservedly so. He was great in Six Feet Under -- another incredible show -- and even better in Dexter. I love Deb Morgan, too. She benefits from some great writing for her character.
But, alas, I do agree that Dexter's last couple of seasons definitely aren't as good as the first several. I'm still watching, of course, because I want to see how it ends. And I will miss it when it's gone because Dexter at 60% of what it was is still better than a lot of the stuff on TV, but yes, brew, it kind of limped to the finish line.
Unlike Breaking Bad, which truly has been a gift from the TV gods from beginning to end.
With the original programming from HBO, Showtime, AMC and FX, those of us who aren't too high-falootin' to say stuff like, "I never watch TV; I only listen to NPR," have been very lucky this last decade-plus.
Without putting them in order, we've been treated to ...
The Wire, Deadwood, Sopranos, Six Feet Under, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Larry Sanders, Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, Entourage, The Shield, Damages, Justified, Walking Dead, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Sons of Anarchy, Rescue Me, Dexter, Shameless, Homeland, Nurse Jackie, Weeds and probably a few I'm missing.
Wow! It's been hard to justify watching network TV for quite some time.
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Larry Sanders was a gem. Rome was also great (HBO series - not the idiot on Showtime).
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I'm digging Ray Donovan. Jon Voight should win an Emmy. He's absolutely fantastic.
Haven't made up my mind yet on this one - like what I see so far.
Can't stand Voight's politics (a real wingnut; probably right of Ted Nugent), but I agree he deserves the Emmy. Outstanding job.
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In my opinion, The Wire is the best show ever put on television.
Wire is very good.
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I'm digging Ray Donovan. Jon Voight should win an Emmy. He's absolutely fantastic.
Guess what I got from Showtime today....an autographed Ray Donovan script by Mr. Voight. Very awesome. It's one of the very few shows my wife and I watch together....our tastes are totally different. She thought that was really cool, and I agree.
Super cast, really well written show.
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Haven't made up my mind yet on this one - like what I see so far.
Can't stand Voight's politics (a real wingnut; probably right of Ted Nugent), but I agree he deserves the Emmy. Outstanding job.
He was a liberal for many years.
Supported McGovern, Kennedy, etc...anti-Vietnam War. But he got disillusioned by the utopian disconnect from the real world and reality in general. Many young people do when they realize the unicorns and rainbows aren't there. ;)
He wrote this in the Times which I think explains things quite well. A wingnut...hardly, but everyone has a different criteria for nuts. I'm sure I view some folks to be complete cranks on the left that you feel are mainstream. That's part of the differences I suppose.
"We were traumatized in the Sixties and all of that behavior — the dancing in circles, the smoking pot and saying "all we need is love" — it was because we couldn't identify evil; we couldn't believe in evil — we didn't want to believe in evil so we just hid from it. It was a very disturbing time ... overwhelmingly, it was a very bizarre, selfish and hedonistic philosophy that wasn't very helpful. It attacked the family — the attack on the family was very severe because not only was there this idea of [indiscriminate love] and that would solve the world's problems, which gave rise to teen pregnancy, but also this idea not to trust anyone over 30. This was from people who were over 30 and bombed out of their minds with every kind of drug they could put into their system. Then there was the romanticization of the drugs — there were people coming out with [pseudo] scientific evidence that [drugs] increase your enlightenment — it was devastating. Today, I find that people look back at that time in a romantic way and that's as dangerous as anything is. It wasn't a romantic time. It was a time of great distortion"
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Breaking Bad > The Wire
Breaking Bad < The Wire without season 5
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Haven't made up my mind yet on this one - like what I see so far.
Can't stand Voight's politics (a real wingnut; probably right of Ted Nugent), but I agree he deserves the Emmy. Outstanding job.
I can't stand Alec Baldwin's politics (or his real-life a-hole personality, for that matter), but he was pretty flippin' funny on "30 Rock".
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Guess what I got from Showtime today....an autographed Ray Donovan script by Mr. Voight. Very awesome. It's one of the very few shows my wife and I watch together....our tastes are totally different. She thought that was really cool, and I agree.
Super cast, really well written show.
Guess what I got from AMC today...a pair of Walter White's skidmarked whitey tighties. Top that.
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I can't stand Alec Baldwin's politics (or his real-life a-hole personality, for that matter), but he was pretty flippin' funny on "30 Rock".
I love you WarriorChick....
Sorry Honey.
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I could give a flyin' flip about the politics of Jon Voight or Alec Baldwin. All I want to know is if they entertain me when they appear in shows I watch.
With both, the answer is yes.
When either talks politics, he is just another talking head yammering away.
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Breaking Bad > The Wire
Breaking Bad < The Wire without season 5
Yes, as is the case with many shows, they tend to lose a little steam at the end. As great as The Wire was -- and I consider Season 4 is the best season of any TV show I have ever seen -- Season 5 was a bit of a letdown.
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Wow ... I've commented a lot in this freakin' thread.
I watch too damn much TV!!!!!
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Guess what I got from AMC today...a pair of Walter White's skidmarked whitey tighties. Top that.
Guess what I got from AMC today - A bag of blue crystals. Wonder what it is?
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Totally loved the premise of Dexter right from the start: Serial killer who also happens to be a blood-spatter expert for the police. Brilliant. Michael C. Hall got nominated for the Emmy just about every year and deservedly so. He was great in Six Feet Under -- another incredible show -- and even better in Dexter. I love Deb Morgan, too. She benefits from some great writing for her character.
But, alas, I do agree that Dexter's last couple of seasons definitely aren't as good as the first several. I'm still watching, of course, because I want to see how it ends. And I will miss it when it's gone because Dexter at 60% of what it was is still better than a lot of the stuff on TV, but yes, brew, it kind of limped to the finish line.
Admittedly, maybe it should be a separate topic, but because these shows that have been so good are ending within a week of each other, I can't help but tie them together. The writing in Dexter this season is just ridiculous. Spoilers in white...
For a character so meticulous to be so clumsy galls me. He thinks he can leave on a plane with Hannah when he has a freaking boat docked in the bay? They drive around together in plain sight and hide her at a family member's house when she is wanted? Then trying to draw Saxon in...that was maybe the worst writing of the series, so much so that they avoided the predictable and just went to the stupid. When Dexter reveals the Saxon tape, right after Saxon threatened his family, there is no way Saxon comes after Dexter directly. He would have went after Deb or more likely Harrison. Then Dexter gets him on the table and decides to walk away? Again, a character as meticulous as Dexter would never let Saxon out of his sight before he was apprehended.
Drives me nuts because I love the character and love the acting of Michael C Hall, but this show has just gone in the tank. Still trying to figure out if we're supposed to think Joey is the good guy that will take care of Deb or the dirty cop that dates strippers and just broke things off with Jamie like 5 minutes before he lets it slip that he's ready to marry Deb. It really has become awful television...yeah, I'm just venting, but I think my wife is sick of hearing it (she's just as irritated with the show as I am) so gotta let it go somewhere.
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Plus + 1 to your entire analysis of Dexter this season. Its truly awful. I'm ready for it to be done. Very disappointing as someone who loved the show seasons 1-4.
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Hmmm, I'm unfamiliar with Ray Donovan. Vas is los? (he tried to say in German).
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I can't stand Alec Baldwin's politics (or his real-life a-hole personality, for that matter), but he was pretty flippin' funny on "30 Rock".
+1
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Guess what I got from AMC today - A bag of blue crystals. Wonder what it is?
I got a case of Schraderbrau.
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I got a case of Schraderbrau.
Warriorchick wins
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I got a case of Schraderbrau.
The last one.
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Hmmm, I'm unfamiliar with Ray Donovan. Vas is los? (he tried to say in German).
It's first-season Showtime show that is airing after Dexter (10 ET Sundays).
Liev Schreiber is very good as a "fixer" who makes sure his NBA client doesn't get hit with paternity suits, his gay actor is thought to be straight, various criminal activities take place without a hitch, etc. He has a difficult multi-generational family life. His wife hates that he's so secretive, his kids have issues, his youngest brother is all screwed up from being molested by a priest years ago, his middle brother runs a boxing gym and is painfully introverted. And his father, played by Jon Voight, is, for lack of better terms, a total piece of work. The writing is superb, especially for Voight, who is as good as or better than he ever was.
It's just a fun show, with enough laughs to keep it from getting too heavy but plenty of gravitas. It reminds me a little of early Sopranos.
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Warriorchick wins
I disagree, I got a bucket of Pollos Hermanos, and it is absolutely addictive.
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I disagree, I got a bucket of Pollos Hermanos, and it is absolutely addictive.
Enjoy your meal.
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Hmmm, I'm unfamiliar with Ray Donovan. Vas is los? (he tried to say in German).
Showtime, Sunday nights. Last episodes coming up. 4 stars on IMDB
http://www.youtube.com/v/FSGUoaaP9Cc
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Guess what I got from AMC today...a pair of Walter White's skidmarked whitey tighties. Top that.
No thanks...I prefer to lay down my own skids in my own drawers.
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Is "Dexter" worth watching?
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Is "Dexter" worth watching?
Seasons 1-4 (and 5 was decent, but the beginning of the decline) are absolutely worth watching. Its currently on Season 7 and its pretty bad.
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Is "Dexter" worth watching?
If you're a geek who watches fiction, probably. I'd rather watch documentaries and reporting on real serial killers. Which I do. For several hours a day, on average. Keeps me sane. Hi
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If you're a geek who watches fiction, probably. I'd rather watch documentaries and reporting on real serial killers. Which I do. For several hours a day, on average. Keeps me sane. Hi
This is probably the douchiest post I've ever seen in my 15-20 years of forums. Congrats, you're better than us. I'm sure all those reports on real serial killers have helped you track down and aid in capturing a ton of them.
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This is probably the douchiest post I've ever seen in my 15-20 years of forums. Congrats, you're better than us. I'm sure all those reports on real serial killers have helped you track down and aid in capturing a ton of them.
Or trying to learn from their mistakes......*shudder*
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This is probably the douchiest post I've ever seen in my 15-20 years of forums. Congrats, you're better than us. I'm sure all those reports on real serial killers have helped you track down and aid in capturing a ton of them.
"Creepiest" might be a better word than douchiest, if he's serious - but I read the post as sarcasm
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Considering this wasn't the first "I'm too good for fiction" post, didn't feel like sarcasm. As though clicking 42 instead of 35 on a remote makes someone superior...
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Considering this wasn't the first "I'm too good for fiction" post, didn't feel like sarcasm. As though clicking 42 instead of 35 on a remote makes someone superior...
OK dorkbait, have fun spending time on fictional characters and chatting with your buds about "what happened on the show last night". "Tee hee! That was so funny that the writers made a joke on the tV! hehe he !!! I luv it!"
"yo that character is deep! wowwweeeeeeee!! did u see it? yeah me too! amazing! yeah man I am watching 14 seasons on netflix bro! hell yeah it rox"
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OK dorkbait, have fun spending time on fictional characters and chatting with your buds about "what happened on the show last night". "Tee hee! That was so funny that the writers made a joke on the tV! hehe he !!! I luv it!"
"yo that character is deep! wowwweeeeeeee!! did u see it? yeah me too! amazing! yeah man I am watching 14 seasons on netflix bro! hell yeah it rox"
It's just entertainment, right?
What's the difference it's a TV show or a watching a football game?
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OK dorkbait, have fun spending time on fictional characters and chatting with your buds about "what happened on the show last night". "Tee hee! That was so funny that the writers made a joke on the tV! hehe he !!! I luv it!"
"yo that character is deep! wowwweeeeeeee!! did u see it? yeah me too! amazing! yeah man I am watching 14 seasons on netflix bro! hell yeah it rox"
Obviously this guy hates Breaking Bad.
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It's just entertainment, right?
What's the difference it's a TV show or a watching a football game?
brewcity spanks to breaking bad
Also, football is real. (well, it's fixed, but it's real guys making money and hitting each other)
Some tv show is just nonsense. If you like stuff like that, by all means go for it. It's just dumb, that's all.
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If you're a geek who watches fiction, probably. I'd rather watch documentaries and reporting on real serial killers. Which I do. For several hours a day, on average. Keeps me sane. Hi
Cop or nut-job on the edge?
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brewcity spanks to breaking bad
Also, football is real. (well, it's fixed, but it's real guys making money and hitting each other)
Some tv show is just nonsense. If you like stuff like that, by all means go for it. It's just dumb, that's all.
It's just entertainment.
I don't think watching woman's bowling makes you a better person (because it's real!) than somebody who watches Downton Abbey.
It's just entertainment, right? Why the big distinction?
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OK dorkbait, have fun spending time on fictional characters and chatting with your buds about "what happened on the show last night". "Tee hee! That was so funny that the writers made a joke on the tV! hehe he !!! I luv it!"
"yo that character is deep! wowwweeeeeeee!! did u see it? yeah me too! amazing! yeah man I am watching 14 seasons on netflix bro! hell yeah it rox"
I'm guessing that you consider art and music to be wastes of time as well?
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It's just entertainment, right?
What's the difference it's a TV show or a watching a football game?
+1000
This is what high-brow types say about sports. "Hey enjoy your stupid game. In the end does it really matter? Sports fans are a bunch of jocks who aren't sophisticated enough to enjoy the finer things that life has to offer."
The same criticism you make of fictional shows can be made against sports. I really dont see the difference. People like to socialize, debate, and gain insights from other people on things that they are interested in. Sometimes its sports. Sometimes its fictional characters. Sometimes its, I dont know, cold case files. But in the end its all entertainment.
I can kind of see where JB is coming from, I too don't like reading fictional books or spending time watching fantasy TV shows. But I'm telling you man, Breaking Bad is awesome. It's worth watching, not only for its intrinsic value, but the social value of not being in the loop when everyone at work/message board/on the bus/etc are talking about it.
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I'm guessing that you consider art and music to be wastes of time as well?
No. I don't understand art but a lot of it is real (some is total nonsense).
Music is great. It's being made by real people (er... usually).
Little sitcoms and "dramas" are made up little stories. To invest time and become fascinated in something that has little depth is strange to me. "oh but dude these characters are complex!" .. OK, just not my thing. I think if you enjoy having a Blue Moon with a big orange wedge while hanging out w/ur boyz watching TV, then you'd probably love fiction TV shows. Just not my deal. I hate it.
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No. I don't understand art but a lot of it is real (some is total nonsense).
Music is great. It's being made by real people (er... usually).
Little sitcoms and "dramas" are made up little stories. To invest time and become fascinated in something that has little depth is strange to me. "oh but dude these characters are complex!" .. OK, just not my thing. I think if you enjoy having a Blue Moon with a big orange wedge while hanging out w/ur boyz watching TV, then you'd probably love fiction TV shows. Just not my deal. I hate it.
I don't get why you would go into a post about TV shows you have no intention of watching for the express purpose of saying you don't watch them ... and everybody that does watch them is an imbecile who lives in a fantasy world.
Is your life that pathetic that you need to criticize people you don't know just to make yourself feel superior?
Why don't you go on the Wisconsin fan board and tell them their team sucks? Or go on political boards and rail about Obama or Boehner or whomever you happen to hate? Or an LGBT board and hate on gay folks.
If I had no freakin' interest in Scrabble, I'm sure as hell not going to a Scrabble board and ripping on people who play Scrabble.
But that's just me.
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R u in character right now bro?
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No. I don't understand art but a lot of it is real (some is total nonsense).
Music is great. It's being made by real people (er... usually).
Little sitcoms and "dramas" are made up little stories. To invest time and become fascinated in something that has little depth is strange to me. "oh but dude these characters are complex!" .. OK, just not my thing. I think if you enjoy having a Blue Moon with a big orange wedge while hanging out w/ur boyz watching TV, then you'd probably love fiction TV shows. Just not my deal. I hate it.
Then why did you come in this thread in the first place? Simply to be a trolling douche. Ooh, I'm so great because I learned about ancient Mesopotamia and how they made their arrowheads. Now I can lord that completely useless knowledge over all my inferior friends, because my form of entertainment is better than theirs.
Seriously, this has to be the stupidest attempt at "I'm better than you" I've ever seen. Furthermore, the simple notion of "I'm better than you" for people who are of adult age on the internet is pathetic in and of itself. Enjoy the latest reality show about cheating spouses that kill each other...I'm sure that highbrow entertainment will really serve you well ::)
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Then why did you come in this thread in the first place? Simply to be a trolling douche. Ooh, I'm so great because I learned about ancient Mesopotamia and how they made their arrowheads. Now I can lord that completely useless knowledge over all my inferior friends, because my form of entertainment is better than theirs.
Seriously, this has to be the stupidest attempt at "I'm better than you" I've ever seen. Furthermore, the simple notion of "I'm better than you" for people who are of adult age on the internet is pathetic in and of itself. Enjoy the latest reality show about cheating spouses that kill each other...I'm sure that highbrow entertainment will really serve you well ::)
I clicked on the thread bc I had heard of it but didn't know what it was. Curiosity. Too bad if that's upsetting. Maybe watching your favorite make believe people on TV will brighten your day.
It's sort if like a freak show. I'm not trying to hang out with Crab Boy or get a date w/the chick w/3 ........ But I might take a quick look.
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No. I don't understand art but a lot of it is real (some is total nonsense).
Music is great. It's being made by real people (er... usually).
Little sitcoms and "dramas" are made up little stories. To invest time and become fascinated in something that has little depth is strange to me. "oh but dude these characters are complex!" .. OK, just not my thing. I think if you enjoy having a Blue Moon with a big orange wedge while hanging out w/ur boyz watching TV, then you'd probably love fiction TV shows. Just not my deal. I hate it.
So some creativity is real and some isn't? Guess I don't understand. Was Dickens or Shakespeare or Tolstoy creative or did they just make up silly little stories?
For that matter, are mountains interesting or just big piles of rock? Oceans - basically a puddle, only bigger? Is the desert a fascinating place to visit or just a lot of sand? Does anything in life fascinate you?
Blacks and whites are just the edges - the interesting stuff is all of the grays in-between. These aren't meant as criticisms - we just must be from different planets.
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I clicked on the thread bc I had heard of it but didn't know what it was. Curiosity. Too bad if that's upsetting. Maybe watching your favorite make believe people on TV will brighten your day.
It's sort if like a freak show. I'm not trying to hang out with Crab Boy or get a date w/the chick w/3 ........ But I might take a quick look.
No, it's not that at all. Taking a quick look and realizing it is something that disinterests you is fine. Move on and enjoy your day. I don't care if you get your jollies watching the history channel, Japanese cartoons, 24 hours of CNN, Breaking Bad, or QVC. Do what you like. But when you go out of your way to be condescending and posting in threads like this, you are being a troll and an asshat.
Do you want to know why I don't spend much time in the MLB thread or the NFL threads? Because I don't have much of an interest in that. And if someone posts a Superbar thread that I click on only to learn I don't have interest in, I don't deride the people in the thread, I just move on with my day.
Regardless...before you try to get all cutesy with another "Duh...brew strokes it to Breaking Bad" kind of post, realize you're trying to be an Internet badass because you turned on the History Channel.
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No, it's not that at all. Taking a quick look and realizing it is something that disinterests you is fine. Move on and enjoy your day. I don't care if you get your jollies watching the history channel, Japanese cartoons, 24 hours of CNN, Breaking Bad, or QVC. Do what you like. But when you go out of your way to be condescending and posting in threads like this, you are being a troll and an asshat.
Do you want to know why I don't spend much time in the MLB thread or the NFL threads? Because I don't have much of an interest in that. And if someone posts a Superbar thread that I click on only to learn I don't have interest in, I don't deride the people in the thread, I just move on with my day.
Regardless...before you try to get all cutesy with another "Duh...brew strokes it to Breaking Bad" kind of post, realize you're trying to be an Internet badass because you turned on the History Channel.
Dude. You are just feeding it. Let it go.
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Dude. You are just feeding it. Let it go.
You know what? You're right.
Starve the beast. Or, in this case, starve the asswipe.
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Do you want to know why I don't spend much time in the MLB thread or the NFL threads?
A lot of guys like you are more concerned with anti-GMO literature, quoting dumb fictional characters from weekly TV shows, and being upset with those who believe in God. Maybe some futbol is OK, but MLB & NFL? Too American for your refined tastes.
I don't deride the people in the thread, I just move on
you are being a troll and an asshat
before you try to get all cutesy...realize you're trying to be an Internet badass because you turned on the History Channel.
Did you pull that from an episode of The Office (British version of course)? Teehee teehee that wuz such a funny episode!
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Starve the asswipe.
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A lot of guys like you are more concerned with anti-GMO literature, quoting dumb fictional characters from weekly TV shows, and being upset with those who believe in God. Maybe some futbol is OK, but MLB & NFL? Too American for your refined tastes.
So now anyone that doesn't think like you doesn't believe in God AND hates America? Just a really weird post, dude.
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So now anyone that doesn't think like you doesn't believe in God AND hates America? Just a really weird post, dude.
No, no. That's just brewcity.
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Starve the asswipe.
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Just to everybody knows, my preferred form of television entertainment makes me a better person than your preferred form of television entertainment.
Always keep that in mind, lemmings.
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My preferred form of television is porn. Hardcore porn.
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My preferred form of television is porn. Hardcore porn.
So is Jay Bee's. "Documentaries" is a euphemism.
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So is Jay Bee's. "Documentaries" are a euphemism.
You mean all those 'Reality Kings' productions aren't actually real?
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Whatever, guys. Those goats were real goats.
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Whatever, guys. Those goats were real goats.
Mr. Hands?
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Actor who plays Walter White Jr. to speak at Marquette University
R.J. Mitte, who plays Walter White, Jr. on the acclaimed AMC series "Breaking Bad" will speak at Marquette University Thursday at 7 p.m.
Like his character Mitte has cerebral palsy, and will speak on overcoming adversity and bullying.
He previously appeared on "Hannah Montana."
Mitte will speak at the Varsity Theater, 1324 W. Wisconsin Ave. His appearance is free and open to the public.
Mitte plays the teenage son of the high school teacher turned meth manufacturer, Walter White, played by Brian Cranston, and his wife Skyler played by Anna Gunn.
Young Walt uses crutches on the show but Mitte has been quoted as saying he never used them. The character is often portrayed eating breakfast and heading off to or coming home from school.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/entertainment/224113461.html
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His name is Flynn.
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Actor who plays Walter White Jr. to speak at Marquette University
R.J. Mitte, who plays Walter White, Jr. on the acclaimed AMC series "Breaking Bad" will speak at Marquette University Thursday at 7 p.m.
Like his character Mitte has cerebral palsy, and will speak on overcoming adversity and bullying.
He previously appeared on "Hannah Montana."
Mitte will speak at the Varsity Theater, 1324 W. Wisconsin Ave. His appearance is free and open to the public.
Mitte plays the teenage son of the high school teacher turned meth manufacturer, Walter White, played by Brian Cranston, and his wife Skyler played by Anna Gunn.
Young Walt uses crutches on the show but Mitte has been quoted as saying he never used them. The character is often portrayed eating breakfast and heading off to or coming home from school.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/entertainment/224113461.html
Wow, breaking bad & Hannah Montana? brewcity is going to be pumped. Same night as his dungeon's & dragons weekly get together, but how can he miss this?!
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My preferred form of television is porn. Hardcore porn.
People still watch that on television?
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People still watch that on television?
Still looking for someone who can fix my Beta.
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Still looking for someone who can fix my Beta.
Good man. :D I jokingly asked because the television porn industry has been in decline for a long time. It's part of my department so it is fun when Vivid, Hustler, Playboy or whomever show up from time to time, but that business is consumed with free stuff online so much that not much going on with the tv anymore.
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Really couldn't have said it better myself. Only other show that is better than first 4 of Dexter were first 2 seasons of Prison Break.
This season of BB is really something.
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I know I am a few days behind on this thread (I don't often read the Superbar), but man what a doucher is Jay Bee. Dear lord...especially for a guy that, If I am not mistaking for another scooper, spends so much of his time watching, writing and analyzing high school basketball - just pure comedy. Now, if Jay Bee is not the guy I am thinking of, well, he is still just a unnatural carnal knowledgein' douche. Hah.
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And now we know why "Better Call Saul" is going to be a prequel.
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And now we know why "Better Call Saul" is going to be a prequel.
Wha wha.
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The moral of this story seems to be knowing when to walk away. Against his better judgment, Mike chose not to walk away after he was no longer in Gus' employ. Walt handed Jesse the chance to walk away. Hank had a closed investigation and had the chance to walk away. Now we see Walt forgoing the chance to walk away. Never seems to end well in this show when people push their luck.
This show is the epitome of Kenny Rogers' "The Gambler".
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The whole cast was on Conan last night, really good stuff.
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I know I am a few days behind on this thread (I don't often read the Superbar), but man what a doucher is Jay Bee.
Go watch your little TV show, bud. You and your buds can talk about it at the water cooler. Awesome.
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Go watch your little TV show, bud. You and your buds can talk about it at the water cooler. Awesome.
Jay Bee, If this were a basketball thread, you'd be a troll. Leave the thread and post about what you care about so I don't have to ban you.
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Breaking Bad makes a dying boy's wish come true
Apparently, the most recent episode, and the series in general, was supposed to end in a very different way, until Vince Gilligan (creator of BB) talked to this dying kid
http://www.thewrap.com/how-breaking-bad-made-a-dying-boys-wish-come-true-and-scored-a-brilliant-cameo-too/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=how-breaking-bad-made-a-dying-boys-wish-come-true-and-scored-a-brilliant-cameo-too
In a word, the kid met the cast, took photos, etc., and Gilligan asked him "what's missing from the show." The kid says "Elliott and Gretchen, Id like to know more about Walt's history with them." Gilligan says it served as the catalyst for he and the writer's to write them into the last episode, which, of course, ultimately changed how the show was going to end.
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Heard this the other day about the final episode named "Felina"....
Some speculation that it's just an anagram for "Finale" which could be part of it, but rearranging the letters in that formation also created 3 elements symbols.
Fe = Iron = Blood
Li = Lithium = Meth (Lithium can be used in production of meth)
Na = Sodium = Tears
Interesting theory anyways, thought it was kinda cool.
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Heard this the other day about the final episode named "Felina"....
Some speculation that it's just an anagram for "Finale" which could be part of it, but rearranging the letters in that formation also created 3 elements symbols.
Fe = Iron = Blood
Li = Lithium = Meth (Lithium can be used in production of meth)
Na = Sodium = Tears
Interesting theory anyways, thought it was kinda cool.
Mind. Blown.
That show's insane. I wish the finale was going to be 2 or 3 hours. I think they have a lot of ground to cover.
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Idea for new show: Breaking Dead. Drug dealing zombies.
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Heard this the other day about the final episode named "Felina"....
Some speculation that it's just an anagram for "Finale" which could be part of it, but rearranging the letters in that formation also created 3 elements symbols.
Fe = Iron = Blood
Li = Lithium = Meth (Lithium can be used in production of meth)
Na = Sodium = Tears
Interesting theory anyways, thought it was kinda cool.
Interesting if true, but Sodium can also be used to make meth. The writers of BB are very keen on the science being perfect, but may have let that aspect slide.
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Mind. Blown.
That show's insane. I wish the finale was going to be 2 or 3 hours. I think they have a lot of ground to cover.
I have no idea how they'll wrap it all up in an hour. Something tells me it will be better than the ridiculousness that was the Dexter finale.
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I have no idea how they'll wrap it all up in an hour. Something tells me it will be better than the ridiculousness that was the Dexter finale.
Prediction, Walt dies by his own hand after something horrible happens i.e one of his family members meets their maker, my guess is Skyler. Ricin is for Lydia, Jesse kills a bunch of Nazis via some kind of explosion he cooks up in the lab, Walt is there while that is going on, helps Jesse... Walt kills Uncle Jack, while Jesse kills Todd.
Jesse leads police to shootout sight in the desert, they find the cell phone with the fake Jesse photo, assume he is dead, and police eventually find the DVD of Walt, and assume Hank was involved.
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Prediction, Walt dies by his own hand after something horrible happens i.e one of his family members meets their maker, my guess is Skyler. Ricin is for Lydia, Jesse kills a bunch of Nazis via some kind of explosion he cooks up in the lab, Walt is there while that is going on, helps Jesse... Walt kills Uncle Jack, while Jesse kills Todd.
Jesse leads police to shootout sight in the desert, they find the cell phone with the fake Jesse photo, assume he is dead, and police eventually find the DVD of Walt, and assume Hank was involved.
Stop that, man!!
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Interview with Uncle Jack
http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/breaking-bad--star-michael-bowen-on-becoming-uncle-jack---i-nearly-killed-myself--150629521.html
At the end of this, it says that the finale tomorrow night will be 75 minutes
EDIT: There are BB viewing parties across the country
http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/breaking-bad-viewing-parties-1200671090/
Has there ever been anything like this for a television show before?!?
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Saw the Homeland premiere last night....if you are a Homeland fan I think you will like how the season starts tomorrow night on Showtime.
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Saw the Homeland premiere last night....if you are a Homeland fan I think you will like how the season starts tomorrow night on Showtime.
Loved season 1. Season 2 got a little weird. I'm really hoping it rebounds this year
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Prediction, Walt dies by his own hand after something horrible happens i.e one of his family members meets their maker, my guess is Skyler. Ricin is for Lydia, Jesse kills a bunch of Nazis via some kind of explosion he cooks up in the lab, Walt is there while that is going on, helps Jesse... Walt kills Uncle Jack, while Jesse kills Todd.
Jesse leads police to shootout sight in the desert, they find the cell phone with the fake Jesse photo, assume he is dead, and police eventually find the DVD of Walt, and assume Hank was involved.
I predict something way out there...like Brock kills Walt Jr. You heard it here first.
Breaking Bad will be the first show I've ever watched from beginning to end...and I started the entire series just a month ago. Man.
Too bad I'll be in the Emergency Department for the finale...all internets will be avoided after 2100 tonight!
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Has there ever been anything like this for a television show before?!?
The Sopranos, Cheers and Seinfeld all come to mind.
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The Sopranos, Cheers and Seinfeld all come to mind.
I watched the finale of M*A*S*H on a big-screen TV (a big deal back then) in the grill of the old Brooks Union. The place was packed. The local CBS affiliate sent out a news truck to cover it.
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The Sopranos, Cheers and Seinfeld all come to mind.
The Fugitive if you go back long enough.
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The Sopranos, Cheers and Seinfeld all come to mind.
I've never been into a show this much, hence my ignorance. In any case, great set of shows to be lumped together with.
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The Sopranos, Cheers and Seinfeld all come to mind.
The Sopranos was great, but the ending of the last episode WAS THE WORST!! Suckiest ever!!
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The Sopranos was great, but the ending of the last episode WAS THE WORST!! Suckiest ever!!
That title was just taken over by Dexter. Worst Episode Ever.
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I was afraid to come to this thread until last night since I wasn't caught up until the hour before the finale.
Great show. Could not recommend it more. Dexter was bad after season 4. Game of Thrones is great, but the books are in another class. Didn't know Homeland started last night, but I will have to watch it on demand today or tomorrow... great first season... not so high on season two.
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This was the ending I hoped for Dexter.
This was a very good ending. Just dark enough, while Walt takes responsibility, bad guys get what's coming to them and the better people (Skyler, Jesse, Walter, Jr.) get some (not enough) help.
Sequel to Breaking Bad: Marie turns into a badass vigilante. She is left holding the bag. You could work Saul into it, but I don't think he can carry the storyline by himself.
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Sequel to Breaking Bad: Marie turns into a badass vigilante. She is left holding the bag. You could work Saul into it, but I don't think he can carry the storyline by himself.
Too late, she's already playing Michael J. Fox's wife in another series. I don't envision much room for badass.
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Too late, she's already playing Michael J. Fox's wife in another series. I don't envision much room for basass.
I am not predicting a long life for that show.
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I was afraid to come to this thread until last night since I wasn't caught up until the hour before the finale.
Great show. Could not recommend it more. Dexter was bad after season 4. Game of Thrones is great, but the books are in another class. Didn't know Homeland started last night, but I will have to watch it on demand today or tomorrow... great first season... not so high on season two.
I like Homeland very much. Thought the season opener last night was a disappointing snooze.
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Anyone watch the Talking Bad show after the finale last night? Anna Gunn looked pretty hot
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Anyone watch the Talking Bad show after the finale last night? Anna Gunn looked pretty hot
Indeed. Something about her voice bringing me thoughts of Skyler almost ruins it tho.
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This was the ending I hoped for Dexter.
This was a very good ending. Just dark enough, while Walt takes responsibility, bad guys get what's coming to them and the better people (Skyler, Jesse, Walter, Jr.) get some (not enough) help.
Sequel to Breaking Bad: Marie turns into a badass vigilante. She is left holding the bag. You could work Saul into it, but I don't think he can carry the storyline by himself.
Kinda crazy that Jesse was supposed to die at the end of Season 1 and ends up being one of the people that lives.
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Anyone watch the Talking Bad show after the finale last night? Anna Gunn looked pretty hot
She was more attractive in the earlier seasons.
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Great finale. Great series that will be greatly missed.
BB's finale might not have been up there with those of Mary Tyler Moore, Six Feet Under and a few others, but decidedly better than the vast majority.
Dexter's finale matched its last season or two: quite unsatisfying. I watched to the end because I still think it was better than most series, but it had very high standards to live up to and failed to do it.
Having said that, Dexter's finale was no worse than those of Sopranos, MASH and Seinfeld, to name a few great shows that didn't know how to end.
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Best finale ever: M*A*S*H
Worst finale ever: Seinfeld
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The best finale ever was for a show called "Freaks and Geeks."
The worst was The Sopranos.
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This guy wouldn't know how to use paragraphs or HTML to save his life, but it was a pretty interesting take on the end of the Sopranos for me:
http://masterofsopranos.wordpress.com/the-sopranos-definitive-explanation-of-the-end/
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The best finale ever was for a show called "Freaks and Geeks."
That doesn't count. They weren't sure it was going to be a final show. It got cancelled after one season.
Awesome TV series, though. I bought the entire thing on DVD (pre-Netflix) and turned my kids onto it.
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She was more attractive in the earlier seasons.
Supposedly she was ill with an undisclosed disease which required cortisone. The cortisone made her gain weight.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/anna-gunn-explains-weight-loss-breaking-bad-final-season-article-1.1465924
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Prediction, Walt dies by his own hand after something horrible happens i.e one of his family members meets their maker, my guess is Skyler. Ricin is for Lydia, Jesse kills a bunch of Nazis via some kind of explosion he cooks up in the lab, Walt is there while that is going on, helps Jesse... Walt kills Uncle Jack, while Jesse kills Todd.
Jesse leads police to shootout sight in the desert, they find the cell phone with the fake Jesse photo, assume he is dead, and police eventually find the DVD of Walt, and assume Hank was involved.
Woah, pretty freakin' good. I almost might have liked this better.
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Best finale ever: M*A*S*H
Worst finale ever: Seinfeld
Disagree completely. I thought Seinfeld's finale was genius. Brought together all the characters that breathed life and laughs into the show for so many years, and brought the show full-circle by making the last joke told the same as the first joke of the first episode. One of the best finales I've seen.
Breaking Bad's finale was excellent as well, I felt. They wrapped it up perfectly. Walt gets his money to his family, Jesse lives, and Walt fulfills the doctor's promise from the first episode that he was on borrowed time.
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Disagree completely. I thought Seinfeld's finale was genius. Brought together all the characters that breathed life and laughs into the show for so many years, and brought the show full-circle by making the last joke told the same as the first joke of the first episode. One of the best finales I've seen.
Breaking Bad's finale was excellent as well, I felt. They wrapped it up perfectly. Walt gets his money to his family, Jesse lives, and Walt fulfills the doctor's promise from the first episode that he was on borrowed time.
Hey, even Jerry has playfully ribbed himself and Larry David for it being a bad finale.
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We watch a lot of Seinfeld, but there are two episodes I always watch. The one where George "leads the way" out of the fire and the finale. I really enjoyed it. The premise was silly, but it was a comedy. Just felt like they really closed the circle well.
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We watch a lot of Seinfeld, but there are two episodes I always watch. The one where George "leads the way" out of the fire and the finale. I really enjoyed it. The premise was silly, but it was a comedy. Just felt like they really closed the circle well.
"The Contest".
One of the best sitcom episodes ever.
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"The Contest".
One of the best sitcom episodes ever.
Agreed. But the best Seinfeld episode was "The Marine Biologist"
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Agreed. But the best Seinfeld episode was "The Marine Biologist"
"The Sea was angry, my friends!"
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Like an old man trying to return soup at a deli :)
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The Seinfeld finale was like a greatest hits album.
You might not love it when it comes out, but when you are feeling nostalgic, it's there for you.
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The Seinfeld finale was like a greatest hits album.
You might not love it when it comes out, but when you are feeling nostalgic, it's there for you.
Well-described. It captures the memories of the show perfectly. For a sitcom, I think that's about the best you can hope for.
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The Sopranos finale was nothing short of brilliant, if you actually read about it (someone had posted the link in this thread earlier) there was so much that went into it and the amount of metaphors and cleverness is insane. The ending also let the viewers to come up with their own conclusion and think for a change.
The Sopranos changed the tv industry and shows like The Wire, Game of Thrones, Dexter, Deadwood, Six Feet Under, etc. never would have existed if it weren't for the Sopranos.
While Breaking Bad is a very very good show, its not on the same level as many of the HBO shows. HBO shows are almost like movies, the way they are put together. They spend a much larger amount of money than standard cable shows and have the likes of Martin Scorsese, Mark Wahlberg and many other others producing their shows.
Don't get me wrong, I am not bashing Breaking Bad, I love the show and think it is very good, but it is made for a much more mainstream / simple audience than many of the shows on HBO
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The Sopranos finale was nothing short of brilliant, if you actually read about it (someone had posted the link in this thread earlier) there was so much that went into it and the amount of metaphors and cleverness is insane. The ending also let the viewers to come up with their own conclusion and think for a change.
The Sopranos changed the tv industry and shows like The Wire, Game of Thrones, Dexter, Deadwood, Six Feet Under, etc. never would have existed if it weren't for the Sopranos.
While Breaking Bad is a very very good show, its not on the same level as many of the HBO shows. HBO shows are almost like movies, the way they are put together. They spend a much larger amount of money than standard cable shows and have the likes of Martin Scorsese, Mark Wahlberg and many other others producing their shows.
Don't get me wrong, I am not bashing Breaking Bad, I love the show and think it is very good, but it is made for a much more mainstream / simple audience than many of the shows on HBO
+1000
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The Sopranos finale was nothing short of brilliant, if you actually read about it (someone had posted the link in this thread earlier) there was so much that went into it and the amount of metaphors and cleverness is insane. The ending also let the viewers to come up with their own conclusion and think for a change.
The Sopranos changed the tv industry and shows like The Wire, Game of Thrones, Dexter, Deadwood, Six Feet Under, etc. never would have existed if it weren't for the Sopranos.
While Breaking Bad is a very very good show, its not on the same level as many of the HBO shows. HBO shows are almost like movies, the way they are put together. They spend a much larger amount of money than standard cable shows and have the likes of Martin Scorsese, Mark Wahlberg and many other others producing their shows.
Don't get me wrong, I am not bashing Breaking Bad, I love the show and think it is very good, but it is made for a much more mainstream / simple audience than many of the shows on HBO
I love HBO dramas. Rome, Boardwalk Empire, Sopranos, Game of Thrones are all some of my favorite shows.
But I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, because IMHO Breaking Bad is the best show ever put on television. The writing, cinematography, and acting are all better than anything HBO has put up.
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I'm with Brewcity on the Seinfeld finale, it is great. Admittedly, the first time I watched it, I thought it was mediocre .. but as time went on, I changed my mind .. it was well done.
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The Sopranos finale was nothing short of brilliant, if you actually read about it (someone had posted the link in this thread earlier) there was so much that went into it and the amount of metaphors and cleverness is insane. The ending also let the viewers to come up with their own conclusion and think for a change.
The Sopranos changed the tv industry and shows like The Wire, Game of Thrones, Dexter, Deadwood, Six Feet Under, etc. never would have existed if it weren't for the Sopranos.
While Breaking Bad is a very very good show, its not on the same level as many of the HBO shows. HBO shows are almost like movies, the way they are put together. They spend a much larger amount of money than standard cable shows and have the likes of Martin Scorsese, Mark Wahlberg and many other others producing their shows.
Don't get me wrong, I am not bashing Breaking Bad, I love the show and think it is very good, but it is made for a much more mainstream / simple audience than many of the shows on HBO
i ground through the entire Sopranos series about two years ago on the faith that I'd see what the big deal was. I agree it was the first of a genre of show.
I get that smarter people than I thought it was terrific.... Can you point me to some source to help me along why everyone thinks that?
Honestly I feel like the show makes more sense as a super dry comedy
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Man you hit the nail on the head. Though I think Mad Men and Dexter are definitely past their prime. Also heard that the Wire is in that upper echelon of great shows.
And 24 is definitely a great show, but sheesh how many times is the guy's daughter going to get kidnapped? Comparing it to breaking bad is, well, not even close to say the least.
The Wire is the greatest show ever. Full stop.
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http://tv.yahoo.com/news/anthony-hopkins-bryan-cranston-breaking-bad-role-best-210947932.html
Anthony Hopkins binge-watched breaking bad. Loved it. And wrote cranston an email said that cranstons acting was the best hes ever seen. Ever.
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http://tv.yahoo.com/news/anthony-hopkins-bryan-cranston-breaking-bad-role-best-210947932.html
Anthony Hopkins binge-watched breaking bad. Loved it. And wrote cranston an email said that cranstons acting was the best hes ever seen. Ever.
I'm sure Cranston read Hopkins' email while enjoying liver, fava beans and a nice chianti.
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What are the Breaking Bad actors up to nowadays
http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/what-s-the--breaking-bad--cast-doing-now--024358131.html
Along with the others, it's nice to see Meth Damon is getting some work
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As big a fan as anyone but I'm not that high on this spinoff.
It's a prequel, about how Saul became Saul before he met Walter White. And it's supposed to be a comedy.
Frankly this doesn't sound that interesting and maybe explains why AMC dragged their feet so long in picking it up. (AMC was pitched on this idea months go but only agreed to it last week, and only after another network was ready to agree.)
I'll watch it but I'm not holding my breath.
What's your verdict?
I have watched the first two seasons of Better Call Saul on Netflix and I have to say that I love the show. Nay. LOVE the show. It is absolutely great. It just goes to show that a big part of what made Breaking Bad so great is the writing, cinematography, the acting, etc., and not necessarily the Heisenberg story line per se.
The show is funny, but only at times and as a result of the character's personality. The show is definitely a drama.
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What's your verdict?
I have watched the first two seasons of Better Call Saul on Netflix and I have to say that I love the show. Nay. LOVE the show. It is absolutely great. It just goes to show that a big part of what made Breaking Bad so great is the writing, cinematography, the acting, etc., and not necessarily the Heisenberg story line per se.
The show is funny, but only at times and as a result of the character's personality. The show is definitely a drama.
Apparently Saul is better at predictions than Heisy/Jigawatts.
(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-04/8/6/enhanced/webdr14/anigif_original-grid-image-7760-1428487854-4.gif?crop=402:300;48,0&downsize=715:*&output-format=auto&output-quality=auto)
(http://photos.vanityfair.com/2015/02/09/54d83a0fabcd32906da3c30e_bcs-flashforward.gif)
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What's your verdict?
I have watched the first two seasons of Better Call Saul on Netflix and I have to say that I love the show. Nay. LOVE the show. It is absolutely great. It just goes to show that a big part of what made Breaking Bad so great is the writing, cinematography, the acting, etc., and not necessarily the Heisenberg story line per se.
The show is funny, but only at times and as a result of the character's personality. The show is definitely a drama.
I agree with you, it is a tremendous show, on the par with Breaking Bad.
Note my 2013 comment included this, which was under consideration at the time.
And it's supposed to be a comedy.
That was my hesitation about the show. Wise decision not to go the comedy route.
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I agree with you, it is a tremendous show, on the par with Breaking Bad.
Note my 2013 comment included this, which was under consideration at the time.
And it's supposed to be a comedy.
That was my hesitation about the show. Wise decision not to go the comedy route.
They absolutely were talking about it. Very glad they went the direction they did. There's still a comedic element to Jimmy's character that in fact makes him quite lovable, much to Chuck's chagrin.
LOVED last week's episode. Without giving away too much to the guys that might later binge, the simultaneous 'cartel' and 'McGill' strategic battles portend some fabulous twists and turns going forward.
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One other recommendation for you guys. Just like BB, I think it important to start from the beginning and watch in order. Perhaps not quite as critical but it'll certainly enhance your viewing experience.
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I agree with you, it is a tremendous show, on the par with Breaking Bad.
Note my 2013 comment included this, which was under consideration at the time.
And it's supposed to be a comedy.
That was my hesitation about the show. Wise decision not to go the comedy route.
Don't you mean your Heisytation?
Da-doom tsssshhhh.
Agreed. The comedy route may have been okay, but the route that they actually chose is great. Hard to see how it could have been better.
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pardon me if this was already mentioned, but i wasn't going to re-read this whole thread-bob odenkirk, who played "saul" went to naperville north high school, MARQUETTE UNIVERSITY before transferring to southern illinois/carbondale. worked along side of chris farley at improv olympic(wikipedia)
fricken biography.com makes no mention of him being enrolled at MU and has him going straight from high school to southern illinois...b@sturd$
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pardon me if this was already mentioned, but i wasn't going to re-read this whole thread-bob odenkirk, who played "saul" went to naperville north high school, MARQUETTE UNIVERSITY before transferring to southern illinois/carbondale. worked along side of chris farley at improv olympic(wikipedia)
fricken biography.com makes no mention of him being enrolled at MU and has him going straight from high school to southern illinois...b@sturd$
It was already mentioned in the "Famous Marquette Alum" thread. I posted it.
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pardon me if this was already mentioned, but i wasn't going to re-read this whole thread-bob odenkirk, who played "saul" went to naperville north high school, MARQUETTE UNIVERSITY before transferring to southern illinois/carbondale. worked along side of chris farley at improv olympic(wikipedia)
fricken biography.com makes no mention of him being enrolled at MU and has him going straight from high school to southern illinois...b@sturd$
Rolling Stone listed the 50 greatest SNL skits of all time
http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/pictures/50-greatest-saturday-night-live-sketches-of-all-time-20140203/matt-foley-motivational-speaker-0010123
1. Matt Foley, Motivational Speaker
Original Airdate: May 8th, 1993
"It paints a picture; the phrase has a lot more meaning to it than just a catchphrase that stands alone," sketch writer Bob Odenkirk told the Chicago Reader about Matt Foley, the motivational speaker who's "35 years old, thrice divorced, and living in a van down by the river." "[T]here is a lot more to it when Chris did it, and he made that character whole. It's not a gimmick. You felt like there was a real person in that character."
Beyond Odenkirk's vivid storyline and Farley's honest portrayal, Foley was the single best use of the manic energy stored inside SNL's greatest physical comedian since John Belushi; a bundle of twitches, tics, throat-busting yells, and extreme pratfalls that made Chevy Chase look like Baryshnikov. Foley was invented by the pair in their days at Chicago's Second City, but quickly became a national legend since the folks on stage were laughing almost as hard as the audience. "Lorne didn't like us cracking up on air," said Norm MacDonald in The Chris Farley Show. "But it was always Chris's goal when it was live on air to make you laugh, to take you out of character, and he always succeeded. You could never not laugh."
The main victim in this sketch was David Spade: "In rehearsal, he's done the thing with his glasses… But he'd never done the twisting his belt and hitching up the pants thing," said Spade. "He saved that for the live performance, and so none of us had ever seen it. He knew that would break me."
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Harvard may have produced eight American Presidents but MU produced both the writer and actor in the greatest SNL skit of all-time!
Call it a draw.
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applegate was laughing so hard tears were coming from her eyes
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http://www.youtube.com/v/Sh5arV2cut0&t=7s
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Excellent show. Vince Gilligan is a stud.
I'm about due to rewatch Breaking Bad for the first time as well.
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Excellent show. Vince Gilligan is a stud.
I'm about due to rewatch Breaking Bad for the first time as well.
I didn't read the whole thread (shocked that it was revised after 4 years and a new thread wasn't started) but I REALLY hope at some point you, given your avatar, have credited David Cross with some of Bob O's talent.
We tried rewatched BB a couple of years ago and the first couple of seasons were tough for us to get through so we stopped - I blame it on not allowing enough time between the finale and rewatching, too much foreknowledge. I took the time before BCS to introduce my wife to Mr. Show. She couldn't handle it but i recommend going back to it if you want to see the genesis of both Tobias and Jimmy.
also, let's get that Skinny Pete and Badger series going!
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also, let's get that Skinny Pete and Badger series going!
I'm in!! It could be an entire show of them telling stories like this:
https://www.youtube.com/v/mW5skmJyU6k
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I won't spoil it but tonight's episode was why this is so great. I'll just say if you explained it to someone that did not watch, they would think it's boring and not worth their time. But it is the writing and acting that make it so good. It's as good as Breaking Bad.
Also pay close attention to the last two words of the highlights of next weeks show at the end (Kim said them). Been waiting three and a half years for those words to be said.
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I won't spoil it but tonight's episode was why this is so great. I'll just say if you explained it to someone that did not watch, they would think it's boring and not worth their time. But it is the writing and acting that make it so good. It's as good as Breaking Bad.
Also pay close attention to the last two words of the highlights of next weeks show at the end (Kim said them). Been waiting three and a half years for those words to be said.
Last night was great. And I caught those words too.