Scholarship table
I'm with Boozeman. I don't think the men's OR women's tennis, lacrosse, golf (and other non revenue sports) "deserve" scholarships just because they represent the school and "bust their ass". Title IX may make it difficult (impossible?) to politically or legally "unwind this one", but why is this a non starter ethically? Not IMHO.
Women's sports wouldn't be destroyed, they'd become club sports.
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
Except as noted earlier the schools and Alumni will drive a truck through that and make matters even worse. Profit off their likeness? If I put Zion in a Centenary uniform is he worth more or less than a Duke uniform? So exactly who is driving the profitability? The player to some degree, but the platform has an enormous amount to do with it. I love how so many think it is just the athlete...it simply isn’t the case (not suggesting you are saying this).
I mean...why do things have to be "equal" to begin with anyway??
Let's just do away with that pesky Constitution.
So just like professional sports then.
No, the difference in exposure, value, and relevance from the most valuable sports franchise to the lowest, is minimal compared to that between a Duke and a Centenary.It's just dumb to even think that. There is a reason why G-league players, although more talented than college players, are not making big bucks. There is a reason why no successful league has been created to challenge the NCAA.The NCAA has a built in audience of alumni, and "State-pride", viewers that tune in for the team, not the players on the roster.
That may be the case, but ultimately still comes down to what we want done and what can be done....two different things.I could easily argue any school that offers courses on Disneyland, bowling, Skeet Shooting, etc, are also doing a disservice to their academic institution...but those courses exist at major universities. As long as they are open to everyone and everyone is graded in the same fashion, there is nothing the NCAA can do. As much as all of us wish we could.As I said in another thread, this is human nature....give an inch take a mile. This happens everywhere to varying degrees in business, govt, education, athletics, society at large. Find the loophole and drive a truck through it.If you want to ban the “sham” classes that is fine, but who decides? Some of those sham classes at UNC were African American studies....cannot wait to see the huge can of worms that opens up if those classes are banned. What is the criteria to determine what is a sham class and what isn’t? And what resources will be dedicated to monitoring 1000’s of schools in the NCAA divisions? At some point we have to hope schools are being honest, and the people involved with them.....but alas that isn’t always to be the case. I just don’t understand the blame of the NCAA here...they have plenty of warts already, but this one isn’t on them.
Good luck with Title IX on this. Massive removal of opportunities for minorities and women in particular. The total number of “revenue” sports....do you mean revenue, or do you mean profitable because many men’s basketball lower D1 programs are revenue generating but lose money. Same for football.
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.
I get the "drive a truck through it" concern, I just don't give a sh*t about it.But I'm not sure what the rest of your post has to do with the idea of athletes profiting off their likeness. Are you concerned the university won't get their cut? I'm pretty sure that can be worked out.
Just let them take outside income. Sign endorsement deals. Keeps everything above board and doesn’t cost the schools anything extra.
I can honestly say that a course that involves no lectures and is graded by the department secretary is a "sham "
These classes didn't exist. Athletes didn't have to attend at all. They just were given grades. The coaches not only condoned it, they encouraged it ... as represtatives of the university. Should have had the book thrown at them . And Roy shoulda been fired.
Lol. No it doesn’t. Does the opposite.
Right. Because legit contracts are worse than a bag man. Look if a kids knows they are getting $5,000 from Nike for going to Duke, good for them! They should be in the market for the best deal possible.
Except they won't be "legit", that's the point. Same as the jobs student athletes used to do were called into question because the athlete would show up (maybe), a card punched, and paid $15 an hour to do absolutely nothing. The same will happen for the endorsements. And exactly how is this going to work...is Joe Blow at Duke going to be pitching the local car dealership? Yeah, what could possibly go wrong with schools with 40,000 students, alumni 10X other schools, and every kid on the team getting "deals" that are alledgedly above board (LOL).
It definitely isn’t the NCAA’s jurisdiction, this is an academic issue not an athletic issue. The Southern Association of Schools and Colleges gave full accreditation in Dec 2017, 2 years after they were put on probation as a result of the various issues that were going on. The accreditation lasts 10 years. The agency said some members wanted to drop their accreditation of the university. Probation was the harshest penalty that agency had given in 40 years.Further complicating things, the NCAA membership (the universities) passed a rule that only a school can determine what is academic fraud, not the NCAA itself. The foxes run the henhouse as it were, but the actual body of the ncaa in Indianapolis can only follow the rules and regs of their body membership.
What are you talking about. The classes existed, they were shams, but they did exist. Cataloged with the university, official classes that any student could take. No one is arguing they weren’t a joke, that attendance was not monitored, grades were a joke, a professor didn’t teach it....100% agree. The NCAA also agrees, but it doesn’t matter....any student could take them. UNC decided that this is how they were going to run their university. They were put on probation for a few years by the accrediting agency, made many changes to alleviate the sham classes, but nothing the NCAA can do about it.