2018 NBA Offseason Thread

[Silkk the Shaka]

No a dude hoo sold his Quon house ta Illyasova wen he played in town beefour. Big sellin' point wuz he could play video games on da big screen in da theater room, hey?

Wait... and NBA player likes video games??

[🏀]

Wait... and NBA player likes video games??

Next thing you're going to tell me is they like marijuana too.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

With the "it's only summer league" caveat in mind, Wendell Carter has looked really good so far.  Rim protection, switching to guards defensively, and making 3s.  I think his upside is higher than some suspect and that he'll fit very nicely with Lauri. 

We'll see if LaVine stops chucking enough to get both of them the ball. 

[MerrittsMustache]

With the "it's only summer league" caveat in mind, Wendell Carter has looked really good so far.  Rim protection, switching to guards defensively, and making 3s.  I think his upside is higher than some suspect and that he'll fit very nicely with Lauri. 

We'll see if LaVine stops chucking enough to get both of them the ball.

Carter is doing exactly what you'd want your high draft pick to do in Summer League - dominate.

With all these teams tanking to get a top 3 pick, wouldn't it be something if the Bulls were able to build a contender out of picks #5, #7 and #7 from consecutive drafts? Granted, they have a long way to go and I still expect GarPax to screw this up somehow and build a perennial 4 to 7 seed but so far it's encouraging.

[Jockey]

I said it before the draft and I'll say it again - Carter is a player.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Carter is doing exactly what you'd want your high draft pick to do in Summer League - dominate.

With all these teams tanking to get a top 3 pick, wouldn't it be something if the Bulls were able to build a contender out of picks #5, #7 and #7 from consecutive drafts?

You mean like the pre-Durant Warriors?

2009  #7 Steph Curry
2010  #6 Ekpe Udo
2011   #11 Klay Thompson
2012    #7 Harrison Barnes & #35 Draymond Green

Yep, the Warriors highest pick was Ekpe Udoh.  Pretty incredible to build a champion with zero top 5 picks.

[MerrittsMustache]

You mean like the pre-Durant Warriors?

2009  #7 Steph Curry
2010  #6 Ekpe Udo
2011   #11 Klay Thompson
2012    #7 Harrison Barnes & #35 Draymond Green

Yep, the Warriors highest pick was Ekpe Udoh.  Pretty incredible to build a champion with zero top 5 picks.

Well played. Even Finals MVP Andre Iguodala was the #9 pick.

Though, technically Bogut and Livingston were both top 5 picks 

[4everwarriors]

Lookin' like adios Jabari, hey?

[GGGG]

It was inevitable.

[MUBurrow]

It was inevitable.

Disagree. It was always likely, but not necessarily a foregone conclusion. There are a lot of RFAs that are going to be left out in the cold this offseason, and accepting their qualifying offer gives them a clear path to UFA next offseason. So I think you'll see some RFAs leave money on the table to do that.

That being said it, if Jabari is able to get his $15M+/yr from the Kings or Bulls, more power to him and probably the best outcome for both sides. With so few bites at the apple left for the Bucks to pair Giannis with another star before his extension is up, MKE just couldn't afford to commit real money to Jabari for multiple years.

[MerrittsMustache]

Hypothetical trades...

To Bucks
PF Love
SF Korver

To Cleveland
Protected 1st
C Henson
PG Delly
PF Wilson
PF Maker

Cleveland needs to be top-10-pick bad the next couple seasons to hang onto their 1st Round pick. Henson and Delly each have 2 years left and will help with that. Wilson and Maker are both young with upside.


To Bucks
PG Schroder

To Magic
PG Bledsoe

To Hawks
C Vucevic or G Ross' expriring deal


Schroder might be a bit of a headcase but he played for Budenholzer in ATL so Bud would obviously need to sign off on this deal. The Hawks are in full-blown tank/rebuild mode. Giannis isn't a Bledsoe fan and Orlando is in desperate need of a PG.

There. I just retooled the Bucks. Anyone have Horst's contact info? 

[4everwarriors]

Wood luv ta no da Bucks taught process wit da entire Jabari clusterfook. Letin' da 2nd pick walk sans stink in return is an amateur move, hey?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Hypothetical trades...

To Bucks
PF Love
SF Korver

To Cleveland
Protected 1st
C Henson
PG Delly
PF Wilson
PF Maker

Cleveland needs to be top-10-pick bad the next couple seasons to hang onto their 1st Round pick. Henson and Delly each have 2 years left and will help with that. Wilson and Maker are both young with upside.

I actually don't hate this trade and could see it working for both sides. The second trade I don't like. I don't see Schroeder as an improvement over Bledsoe.

[DegenerateDish]

Once the Bulls rescinded Nwaba, it figured they had another move to make. I'd have to see the numbers on an offer sheet to Parker. I was kinda hoping their move was going to be to take on the Deng contract with a 2023 first rounder (with protections) thrown in for their troubles.

[GGGG]

Wood luv ta no da Bucks taught process wit da entire Jabari clusterfook. Letin' da 2nd pick walk sans stink in return is an amateur move, hey?

When were they supposed to trade him?  You can blame the Bucks for some bad personnel moves but this isn’t one of them.

[4everwarriors]

Sign and trade him. Franchises that screw up by letting the #2 pick just walk away without compensation are destined to spin their wheels just to thread water before they sink in quick sand. Do you think the Celtics, Spurs, or Warriors take the stance MKE took? This is the type of miscue that egotistical novices like Edens, Lasry, Horst, and crew are prone to in attempting to navigate without a compass.

[JWags85]

I actually don't hate this trade and could see it working for both sides. The second trade I don't like. I don't see Schroeder as an improvement over Bledsoe.

Schroder is 4 years younger, has better assist numbers, and is a better defender, objectively and statistically.  Its not light years better, but I cant stand Bledsoe on this team, so I think its an improvement.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Once the Bulls rescinded Nwaba, it figured they had another move to make. I'd have to see the numbers on an offer sheet to Parker. I was kinda hoping their move was going to be to take on the Deng contract with a 2023 first rounder (with protections) thrown in for their troubles.

Apparently the Bulls think he can play SF, which seems like a massive stretch. Just seems like a really questionable fit.

[GGGG]

Rumors are that the reason a sign and trade isn’t working is that the Bulls want compesantiom should Jabari have continued problems with his knees. Bucks are balking and would rather call Bulls bluff.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Question for Bucks fans. In 6 April games Parker's minutes jumped to about 32.

He averaged 19.5 and 8 with a 49.5% FG% and a 45.8% 3 PT%.

Granted it's an extremely small sample size but was there anything behind those greatly improved numbers that you can recall?

[Jockey]

Question for Bucks fans. In 6 April games Parker's minutes jumped to about 32.

He averaged 19.5 and 8 with a 49.5% FG% and a 45.8% 3 PT%.

Granted it's an extremely small sample size but was there anything behind those greatly improved numbers that you can recall?

His knee was feeling better.

There has never been a question about Jabari's offensive talents.

It's defense and health.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

His knee was feeling better.

There has never been a question about Jabari's offensive talents.

It's defense and health.

Thanks. If this happens the Bulls D is going to be all sorts of awful but it's not like stars ever want to sign in Chicago.

[MU82]

Sign and trade him. Franchises that screw up by letting the #2 pick just walk away without compensation are destined to spin their wheels just to thread water before they sink in quick sand. Do you think the Celtics, Spurs, or Warriors take the stance MKE took? This is the type of miscue that egotistical novices like Edens, Lasry, Horst, and crew are prone to in attempting to navigate without a compass.

I don't understand what you're saying here.

It's too much like English.

And I ain't talkin' 'bout Alex.

[DegenerateDish]

If it turns out to be the two year restricted deal, then I really don’t blame the Bucks for not matching, and don’t blame the Bulls on the short term risk. I think Parker and the Bucks is just simply a case of both sides knowing it’s probably best to move on. I think for Parker, going home gives him more of a comfort level than most other players, especially after being out and isolated in rehab most of the last few seasons.

I think it’s simply a rational decision on each party’s end here.

[GGGG]

Blaming the Bucks for not doing a sign and trade is silly. Two other parties (Jabari and the Bulls) have to agree to those terms. If neither wants to, it simply isn’t a possibility.

The second injury came at the absolute worst time. It left the Bucks with too short a timeframe to trade him and/or to evaluate how much to give him in a contract. They’ve made enough questionable moves of the past couple of years. No need to compound those with a big contract to a guy with knee issues.