Author Topic: [GoMarquette.com] Golden Eagles To Open Regular Season Nov. 13 Against Centenary (Read 4641 times)

GoMarquetteSays · « **on:** July 13, 2009, 02:15:04 PM »

Golden Eagles To Open Regular Season Nov. 13 Against Centenary

Over the course of the next two weeks, GoMarquette.com will announce the non-conference portion of its upcoming 2009-10 men's basketball schedule.

One opponent will be released each day, with start times listed when available and subject to change. Marquette fans will have a head start on plans to follow the Golden Eagles next season, rather than having to wait until early September for the complete schedule as they have in the past.

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Skatastrophy · « **Reply #1 on:** July 13, 2009, 02:23:49 PM »

MU v. MSOE on Nov 6th or 7th? rofl!

reinko · « **Reply #2 on:** July 13, 2009, 02:34:11 PM »

Good lord, they are the Centenary College Gentleman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centenary_College_of_Louisiana#Athletics

GGGG · « **Reply #3 on:** July 13, 2009, 02:40:46 PM »

This is just absurd.

And why MSOE? Honestly, Bradley Tech will give MU a better game than MSOE will...

{Juggernaut} · « **Reply #4 on:** July 13, 2009, 02:45:21 PM »

It is the smallest D1 school in the country, but Robert Parish went there...
This game i must question cause they were 8-23 last year and 243 ranking in ken pom. How can this help out sos...

Nukem2 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 13, 2009, 02:49:20 PM »

Quote from: muhannan on July 13, 2009, 02:45:21 PM

It is the smallest D1 school in the country, but Robert Parish went there...
This game i must question cause they were 8-23 last year and 243 ranking in ken pom. How can this help out sos...

Its a "buy" game. It is what it is. At any rate, our newbies need to start off slowly...?

ChuckyChip · « **Reply #6 on:** July 13, 2009, 02:51:56 PM »

The approach of revealing one opponent per day makes the pre-conference schedule appear even worse. Typically when the entire schedule is released at once, you focus on the marquee games (UW, NC State) and ignore the guarantee games. Now we're forced to focus on Centenary for the next 24 hours. What a terrible idea.

Henry Sugar · « **Reply #7 on:** July 13, 2009, 02:53:23 PM »

Quote from: ChuckyChip on July 13, 2009, 02:51:56 PM

The approach of revealing one opponent per day makes the pre-conference schedule appear even worse. Typically when the entire schedule is released at once, you focus on the marquee games (UW, NC State) and ignore the guarantee games. Now we're forced to focus on Centenary for the next 24 hours. What a terrible idea.

couldn't have said it better myself

4everwarriors · « **Reply #8 on:** July 13, 2009, 03:10:42 PM »

The Gentlemen and MSOE would have given IU all they could handle last season. Should be interesting to see how many live bodies actually walk through the turnstiles for these beauties.

PuertoRicanNightmare · « **Reply #9 on:** July 13, 2009, 03:17:15 PM »

I understand the MSOE players actually wear wristwatches during their games.

Nukem2 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 13, 2009, 03:32:25 PM »

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on July 13, 2009, 03:17:15 PM

I understand the MSOE players actually wear wristwatches during their games.

Yes, the MSOE game is a head scratcher. Though, I guess its no worse than the Cardinal Stritch game a couple years ago. Would rather see a quality Div II / Div III team

Skatastrophy · « **Reply #11 on:** July 13, 2009, 03:34:54 PM »

Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 13, 2009, 03:10:42 PM

The Gentlemen and MSOE would have given IU all they could handle last season. Should be interesting to see how many live bodies actually walk through the turnstiles for these beauties.

At least with MSOE there may be a home-town crowd there to witness this curiosity.

Canned Goods n Ammo · « **Reply #12 on:** July 13, 2009, 03:44:13 PM »

Honest Question:

Who really creates the schedule?

I assume it's the Athletic Director and Head Coach with final sign off from the University President.

Warrior of Law · « **Reply #13 on:** July 13, 2009, 03:45:26 PM »

Where is the press release announcing that the official offer to play MSOE has been sent in the mail?

77ncaachamps · « **Reply #14 on:** July 13, 2009, 03:46:36 PM »

Just FYI: some of Centenary tougher opponents include Oklahoma, Mississippi, and Mississippi State.

But then they play the SW Assemblies of God.

http://www.gocentenary.com/SportSelect.dbml?&SPSID=89611&SPID=10695&DB_OEM_ID=17900&KEY=&Q_SEASON=2009

downtown85 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 13, 2009, 03:47:30 PM »

Regarding MSOE, it may be worth showing up to see if the Abehole appears. Then I bet a lot of MU fans would like to either particpate in or witness him getting the crap beaten out of him.

MU B2002 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 13, 2009, 03:49:45 PM »

I didn't even know MSOE had sports teams.
Oh well.

Can't wait til they annouce the date of the Marquette University v Marquette High game.

HoopsMalone · « **Reply #17 on:** July 13, 2009, 03:54:16 PM »

Quote from: ChuckyChip on July 13, 2009, 02:51:56 PM

The approach of revealing one opponent per day makes the pre-conference schedule appear even worse. Typically when the entire schedule is released at once, you focus on the marquee games (UW, NC State) and ignore the guarantee games. Now we're forced to focus on Centenary for the next 24 hours. What a terrible idea.

It gives us something to talk about while there is not a lot going on though. I am happy I found out that Robert Parish went to a school we are playing in November.

muguru · « **Reply #18 on:** July 13, 2009, 03:56:11 PM »

I can't believe you guys are making such a big deal out of their EXHIBITION opponent. Who cares?? The game doesn't count for anything, statistically or in the "W-L" column so really why does it matter?? You people need to get a life if this is what you are going to whine about.

Skatastrophy · « **Reply #19 on:** July 13, 2009, 04:01:00 PM »

muguru - We only have one exhibition game this year. With our crop of new blood it would be nice to play someone that would prepare us for the challenges of the Big East instead of preparing us for the challenges of intramural basketball.

Hards Alumni · « **Reply #20 on:** July 13, 2009, 04:17:12 PM »

Quote from: Skatastrophy on July 13, 2009, 04:01:00 PM

muguru - We only have one exhibition game this year. With our crop of new blood it would be nice to play someone that would prepare us for the challenges of the Big East instead of preparing us for the challenges of intramural basketball.

You mean like the Nike Allstars?

it is what it is.

dsfire · « **Reply #21 on:** July 13, 2009, 04:48:29 PM »

Quote from: Skatastrophy on July 13, 2009, 04:01:00 PM

muguru - We only have one exhibition game this year. With our crop of new blood it would be nice to play someone that would prepare us for the challenges of the Big East instead of preparing us for the challenges of intramural basketball.

Are we doing the closed scrimmage again this year?

Also, who are you going to find to play in exhibition that would prepare anyone for the Big East?

Skatastrophy · « **Reply #22 on:** July 13, 2009, 05:01:26 PM »

Quote from: dsfire on July 13, 2009, 04:48:29 PM

Are we doing the closed scrimmage again this year?

Also, who are you going to find to play in exhibition that would prepare anyone for the Big East?

At least a school that gives out athletic scholarships. MSOE is D3. I'm sure we could find a D2 school that has a little talent that would like to come play at the BC.

dsfire · « **Reply #23 on:** July 13, 2009, 05:10:41 PM »

Quote from: Skatastrophy on July 13, 2009, 05:01:26 PM

At least a school that gives out athletic scholarships. MSOE is D3. I'm sure we could find a D2 school that has a little talent that would like to come play at the BC.

Probably true, though the UW system has some of the best D3 teams (Point, Platteville and Whitewater were all top 10 at the end of last year) so those seem more likely. That said, I think it's a long stretch to claim exhibition games have any relation to conference play and the opponents are probably more about local schools or coaches with connections than it is for finding competition. Since the NCAA ruled out club and national teams, at least (why is it okay for the women to play them but not the men?).

Marquette84 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 13, 2009, 06:30:27 PM »

Quote from: ChuckyChip on July 13, 2009, 02:51:56 PM

The approach of revealing one opponent per day makes the pre-conference schedule appear even worse. Typically when the entire schedule is released at once, you focus on the marquee games (UW, NC State) and ignore the guarantee games. Now we're forced to focus on Centenary for the next 24 hours. What a terrible idea.

You apparently haven't been around the past few years. No matter what marquee games were on the schedule, the buy games garnered at least 10X the discussion.

At least this way, there might be some individual focus on the marquee games before the final late-December buy games are announced.

Quote from: MU_B2002 on July 13, 2009, 03:49:45 PM

I didn't even know MSOE had sports teams.
Oh well.

Can't wait til they annouce the date of the Marquette University v Marquette High game.

Sounds like MSOE played 3/4 of a game against UWM in their exhibition last year:

"The Raiders pulled to within five points at 40-35 midway through the second half but missed point-blank shots on three consecutive possessions and went 8 minutes 33 seconds without a field goal. MSOE was outscored, 28-8, over the final 14 minutes."

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/panthers/33956804.html

Of course this might say more about UWM than MSOE.

The Massey ratings combine D1, 2, and 3, NAIA and NJCAA into a single chart--of 1972 teams, MSOE ranked #830--closest D1 team ahead of them was Southern, and they actually rank ahead of D1 Grambling.
http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb

So MSOE is the equivalent of a 330 to 340 level RPI D-1 team. Not great, by any stretch, but certainly far better than comparing them to a HS or interrmural team.

FYI, Indian Hills CC ranked 269--putting them between Harvard and Pepperdine.
Hutchinson CC ranked 989--behind all D1 teams.

GOMU1104 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 13, 2009, 07:19:00 PM »

Wow, is there really going to be two weeks of people bitching about the non-con opponents?!?!? This could be comparable to the torture of dripping water on someones forehead...

Listen...we are playing UW, NC State, an improved UWM team, as well as a VERY competitive Old Spice Invite. Rumor has it that St. Bonaventure may also be on the schedule.

Who the F cares if we play MSOE, UW-Nowhere, MATC, Milwaukee Washington, etc in an exhibition game?!?!? You cant honestly be complaining about that...

My god people!

Moving on...FYI...

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on July 13, 2009, 04:17:12 PM

You mean like the Nike Allstars?

it is what it is.

Thanks to Rudy Gay and Jim Calhoun, those games cant happen anymore. Thanks for ruining the fun Jimmy C!

dennycrane · « **Reply #26 on:** July 13, 2009, 07:21:26 PM »

Quote from: ChuckyChip on July 13, 2009, 02:51:56 PM

The approach of revealing one opponent per day makes the pre-conference schedule appear even worse. Typically when the entire schedule is released at once, you focus on the marquee games (UW, NC State) and ignore the guarantee games. Now we're forced to focus on Centenary for the next 24 hours. What a terrible idea.

This is hilarious. Remember the old 60's-70's board game "Mystery Date"? Now you know you get to spend the night with Debby Downer. Maybe tomorrow it will be a real dreamboat?

MUUWUWM · « **Reply #27 on:** July 13, 2009, 07:43:52 PM »

Your all missing the point and let me tell you the rest of the story.

MSOE contacted UW, UWM, and UWGB and they all refused to play them.

They are just chicken saying things like everything to lose and nothing to win....

We are the only Division 1 school in the state with enough balls to face them...

Now don't you feel better and a bit proud?

So stick your breast out further and hold your beak out and straight up.

GGGG · « **Reply #28 on:** July 14, 2009, 07:29:30 AM »

Quote from: dsfire on July 13, 2009, 05:10:41 PM

Probably true, though the UW system has some of the best D3 teams (Point, Platteville and Whitewater were all top 10 at the end of last year) so those seem more likely. That said, I think it's a long stretch to claim exhibition games have any relation to conference play and the opponents are probably more about local schools or coaches with connections than it is for finding competition. Since the NCAA ruled out club and national teams, at least (why is it okay for the women to play them but not the men?).

Marquette is going to find a D3 school that is local and therefore won't have to pay a lot to come here. That is why they have played the likes of Whitewater, Stritch and now MSOE. The closest D2 opponent they could play is Parkside, but honestly I think most of the D3 UW schools have better basketball programs than Parkside. (I also am not sure they can play a D2 school in an exhibition game. I think they are limited to D3.)

The exhibition game is just a chance to settle into a rotation and stop playing against one another. It doesn't prepare you for BE play. It's not supposed to. They move from the exhibition, to a few guaranty games, to some tougher non-conference opponents, to the Big East.

dsfire · « **Reply #29 on:** July 14, 2009, 09:22:08 AM »

I don't think there's any limitation against D2 schools in exhibition games - from the NCAA bylaw on exempted games:

Quote

(i) Exhibition against a Non-NCAA Division I Four-Year Collegiate Institution. An exhibition contest against a four-year collegiate institution (other than an NCAA Division I institution) played in the arena in which the member institution regularly plays its home contests. [...] In men's basketball, an institution may play two exhibition contests against a non-NCAA Division I four-year collegiate institution during any year in which it does not use the exemption set forth in Bylaw 17.5.5.3-(j), or may play one exhibition contest against a non-NCAA Division I four-year collegiate institution and one practice scrimmage as defined in Bylaw 17.5.5.3-(j); and (Adopted: 10/28/99 effective 8/1/00; Revised: 4/29/04 effective 8/1/04)

GGGG · « **Reply #30 on:** July 14, 2009, 09:31:17 AM »

OK, thanks dsfire.

So that means they could play Parkside. Or they could pay out more money have have a school like Winona come into Milwaukee. (But Winona could actually put together a decent game and beat MU.) Hell, MSOE is located closer to the Bradley Center than MU is.

muwarrior87 · « **Reply #31 on:** July 14, 2009, 10:48:34 AM »

MSOE is a DIII school though. So if we played them, it would be as an exhibition.

ecompt · « **Reply #32 on:** July 14, 2009, 10:56:54 AM »

For God's sake, it's an exhibition game, and we will have seven new players. The non-conference games -- not an exhibition -- get us ready for the Big East.

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