Author Topic: BEPOY (Read 5428 times)

DoctorV · « **on:** March 06, 2022, 12:32:34 AM »

I feel like I’ve watch every BE game my soul could tolerate and I have no idea who the best player in the conference is.

Does anyone know?

I’d start a poll if I knew how, but I still don’t think I could figure out the top 5?

I’ll assume Justin gets 1st team All BE, along with Gillespie and Cole. Do Sanogo and Rhoden round it out, does Nate Watson slide in?

I’d also assume Freeman-liberty (22ppg!) and champagnie land on the 2nd team despite much more gaudi stats.

Very odd year in the BE when it comes to individual awards, a ton of balance teams without a lot of star power.

rocky_warrior · « **Reply #1 on:** March 06, 2022, 01:15:27 AM »

Top 4:
Gillespie
Cole
Kalkbrenner
Moore

Outside shots:
Freeman-Liberty
Nunge
Alexander
Lewis

And yes, I realize not a single PC player is on there. They've been an amazing (but apparently lucky) team.

DoctorV · « **Reply #2 on:** March 06, 2022, 01:30:09 AM »

Don’t think that’s right

rocky_warrior · « **Reply #3 on:** March 06, 2022, 01:32:13 AM »

Quote from: DoctorV on March 06, 2022, 01:30:09 AM

Don’t think that’s right

OK

brewcity77 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 06, 2022, 05:48:52 AM »

Pretty sure it'll be Gillespie. Best player on the clear best team. Justin should be first team.

We R Final Four · « **Reply #5 on:** March 06, 2022, 07:33:44 AM »

It will be Gillespie.

Eye · « **Reply #6 on:** March 06, 2022, 09:08:21 AM »

Agree with Brew. I'd say Gillespie with JFL on the 1st team.

Newsdreams · « **Reply #7 on:** March 06, 2022, 10:00:09 AM »

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 06, 2022, 01:32:13 AM

OK

Not banning him? Joey soft!

CountryRoads · « **Reply #8 on:** March 06, 2022, 10:05:39 AM »

Agree that Gillespie will win. Lewis would have won it had MU finished closer to the top I think. Still a fantastic jump from his freshman to his sophomore season. It gives me hope for some of the other guys to improve in the off season.

MuggsyB · « **Reply #9 on:** March 06, 2022, 10:08:07 AM »

Quote from: DoctorV on March 06, 2022, 01:30:09 AM

Don’t think that’s right

Agreed Dr. V. Would you slot Kalbrenner ahead of Nate Watson?

ChuckyChip · « **Reply #10 on:** March 06, 2022, 10:47:49 AM »

Kenpom's BE All-Conference as of this morning:

1 - Gillespie
2 - Moore
3 - Lewis
4 - Sanogo
5 - Rhoden

Elonsmusk · « **Reply #11 on:** March 06, 2022, 10:53:35 AM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 06, 2022, 10:08:07 AM

Agreed Dr. V. Would you slot Kalbrenner ahead of Nate Watson?

Kalkbrenner doesn’t belong on the BEPOY list/conversation.

DoctorV · « **Reply #12 on:** March 06, 2022, 10:55:04 AM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 06, 2022, 10:08:07 AM

Agreed Dr. V. Would you slot Kalbrenner ahead of Nate Watson?

Nate Watson is the best player on the conference champion, he’s ahead of Kalky.
Wouldn’t be surprised if he bumped Moore off the first team.

I’d be very surprised if Justin Lewis wasn’t on the first team as well.

I’ll go with
Gillespie
Cole
Lewis
Rhoden
Sanogo
Watson

2nd team of
Moore
Freeman-Liberty
Champagnie
Alexander
Hawkins
Bynum

Morsell is pretty close to that 2nd team imo

rocky_warrior · « **Reply #13 on:** March 06, 2022, 11:06:15 AM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 06, 2022, 10:08:07 AM

Agreed Dr. V. Would you slot Kalbrenner ahead of Nate Watson?

Watson is pretty far down the Value Add list (filter for BE, #17)
https://www.valueaddbasketball.com/

Is 18 on the Torvik scale:
https://www.barttorvik.com/conf.php?conf=BE&year=2022

Though 7th on kenpom (filter for BE)
https://kenpom.com/playerstats.php?s=eFG&y=2022&f=BE

Kalkbrenner is 6th, 4th, and 1st on those rankings.

PGsHeroes32 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 06, 2022, 12:19:05 PM »

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1500533119035883524

6 made it

Dr. Blackheart · « **Reply #15 on:** March 06, 2022, 03:57:56 PM »

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 06, 2022, 12:19:05 PM

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1500533119035883524

6 made it

Gillespie only unanimous player so POY.

DoctorV · « **Reply #16 on:** March 06, 2022, 04:56:36 PM »

Wow congrats to Justin Lewis!!!

MU82 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 06, 2022, 05:10:27 PM »

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 06, 2022, 12:19:05 PM

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1500533119035883524
6 made it

Thanks for this. Congrats to JL, very deserving. And Gillespie's deserving of POY; in addition to posting good stats, he controls the best team in the conference (or second-best if you buy The Provi as best team, which few with eyes do).

rocky_warrior · « **Reply #18 on:** March 06, 2022, 05:23:17 PM »

Quote from: DoctorV on March 06, 2022, 04:56:36 PM

Wow congrats to Justin Lewis!!!

Should be a shoo-in for Freshman of the year!

MU82 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 06, 2022, 05:29:48 PM »

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 06, 2022, 05:23:17 PM

Should be a shoo-in for Freshman of the year!

If he stays another season, he can win that award a year from now.

Small Orange Soda · « **Reply #20 on:** March 06, 2022, 05:32:36 PM »

ALL-BIG EAST FIRST TEAM

R.J. Cole, Connecticut, G, Gr., 6-1, 185, Union, N.J.
Adama Sanogo, Connecticut, F, So., 6-9, 240, Bamako, Mali
Justin Lewis, Marquette, F, So., 6-7, 245, Baltimore, Md.
Julian Champagnie, St. John’s, G-F, Jr., 6-8, 215, Brooklyn, N.Y.
Jared Rhoden, Seton Hall, G-F, 6-6, 210, Baldwin, N.Y.
*Collin Gillespie, Villanova, G, Gr., 6-3, 195, Huntingdon Valley, Pa.

ALL-BIG EAST SECOND TEAM

Ryan Hawkins, Creighton, F, Sr., 6-7, 222, Atlantic, Iowa
Javon Freeman-Liberty, DePaul, G, Sr., 6-4, 180, Chicago, Ill.
Jared Bynum, Providence, G, R-Jr., 5-10, 180, Largo, Md.
Nate Watson, Providence, F, Gr., 6-10, 260, Portsmouth, Va.
Justin Moore, Villanova, G, Jr., 6-4, 210, Ft. Washington, Md.

ALL-BIG EAST HONORABLE MENTION

Ryan Kalkbrenner, Creighton, C, So., 7-0, 256, St. Louis, Mo.
Darryl Morsell, Marquette, G, Gr., 6-5, 205, Baltimore, Md.
Posh Alexander, St. John’s, G, So., 6-0, 200, Brooklyn, N.Y.
Jack Nunge, Xavier, C, Jr., 7-0, 245, Newburgh, Ind.

BIG EAST ALL-FRESHMAN TEAM

Jordan Hawkins, Connecticut, G, 6-5, 175, Gaithersburg, Md.
Trey Alexander, Creighton, G, 6-4, 185, Oklahoma City, Okla.
*Ryan Nembhard, Creighton, G, 6-0, 167, Aurora, Ont.
Arthur Kaluma, Creighton, F, 6-7, 220, Glendale, Ariz.
*Aminu Mohammed, Georgetown, G, 6-5, 210, Temple Hills, Md.
*Kam Jones, Marquette, G, 6-4, 185, Cordova, Tenn.

*Denotes unanimous selection

MU82 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 06, 2022, 05:59:17 PM »

Congrats to Kam for making the All-Freshman Team.

Oh, and congrats to the Big East for classifying Lewis as a sophomore.

Jay Bee · « **Reply #22 on:** March 06, 2022, 06:18:32 PM »

Quote from: MU82 on March 06, 2022, 05:59:17 PM

Congrats to Kam for making the All-Freshman Team.

Oh, and congrats to the Big East for classifying Lewis as a sophomore.

And classifying Rhoden as classless! Great list!!

DoctorV · « **Reply #23 on:** March 06, 2022, 06:21:47 PM »

So I got them all except Champagnie over Watson on the first team

That one really surprises me tbh, I thought Moore had a Moore legitimate chance.

Also didn’t know the 2nd team only had 5 guys, with Posh being off and as an honorable mention.

Yes, congrats to Kam!

TAMU, Knower of Ball · « **Reply #24 on:** March 06, 2022, 09:05:46 PM »

Butler unrepresented. Xavier only gets Nunge on there as an honorable mention. Georgetown only makes the all freshman team (formerly known as the DePaul special).

I'm impressed with McDermott. He has a second teamer, an honorable mention, and half of the freshman team. Cooley will get COY but McD did a really good job as well.

mugrad_89 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 06, 2022, 09:14:16 PM »

Quote from: DoctorV on March 06, 2022, 06:21:47 PM

So I got them all except Champagnie over Watson on the first team

That one really surprises me tbh, I thought Moore had a Moore legitimate chance.

Also didn’t know the 2nd team only had 5 guys, with Posh being off and as an honorable mention.

Yes, congrats to Kam!

Agreed on Champagnie - he seemed to be a volume scorer this year and was pretty quiet in more than a few of the Johnnies losses.