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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #650 on: January 01, 2022, 03:12:54 PM »
Providence up 42-17 at the half at DePaul after the Demons went 9-1 in non-conference. The world is normal again.
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« Reply #651 on: January 02, 2022, 10:13:57 AM »
Cooley & Company now 13-1. Some consistent performance the rest of the season and they will make it in the tournament
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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #652 on: January 05, 2022, 05:55:25 PM »
SJU-Depaul.   Just played through a media timeout without a play stoppage.   SJU, who hasn't played in 20 days and has been unable to hold a team practice in that window, were all gesturing to Anderson that they wanted to be subbed out.   Not sure he has 5 subs.
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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #653 on: January 05, 2022, 06:30:59 PM »
Johnnies up 4 at the half despite being 2 for 18 on layups. That's not COVID rust.
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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #654 on: January 05, 2022, 07:42:28 PM »
SJU-Depaul.   Just played through a media timeout without a play stoppage.   SJU, who hasn't played in 20 days and has been unable to hold a team practice in that window, were all gesturing to Anderson that they wanted to be subbed out.   Not sure he has 5 subs.

extremely shorthanded Johnnies playing for the first time in 20 days take care of DePaul (so much for "DePaul is back" for another year LOL). Champagnie with an absolute monster game - 34 and 16. Not quite what we did last night, but SJU with 18 assists on 33 made FG's.
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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #655 on: January 05, 2022, 07:48:08 PM »
Johnnies up 4 at the half despite being 2 for 18 on layups. That's not COVID rust.

they couldn’t get the legs under their shots

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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #656 on: January 05, 2022, 08:35:25 PM »
Nova up 14 at half versus Creighton. 
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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #657 on: January 05, 2022, 10:08:39 PM »
Anybody else salty that Nova couldn't let our 32pt victory ride for even a couple days by clobbering Creighton by 34!?!?

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« Reply #658 on: January 05, 2022, 10:17:05 PM »
Anybody else salty that Nova couldn't let our 32pt victory ride for even a couple days by clobbering Creighton by 34!?!?

You beat me to it. They just couldn't let us enjoy our blowout win for a few days. Bunch of showboaters!
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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #659 on: January 06, 2022, 09:13:16 AM »
Anybody else salty that Nova couldn't let our 32pt victory ride for even a couple days by clobbering Creighton by 34!?!?

Only appropriate salt is choking away the Creighton win. Jays have all the tools to be a 9th place team. We'll rue that missed opportunity come bubble season.

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« Reply #660 on: January 06, 2022, 10:12:52 AM »
That has to be about the biggest point swing between first and second meeting ever in the BE if not the NCAA - 54 points!
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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #661 on: January 06, 2022, 12:38:15 PM »
Anybody else salty that Nova couldn't let our 32pt victory ride for even a couple days by clobbering Creighton by 34!?!?

The Big East is likely a lock for 5 bids
Currently it would be Nova, UConn, X, SH, Providence.

With as good of a season as the conference has had the BE seems highly likely to get 6 bids if things shake out appropriately.
7 bids are possible but would seem like a stretch (first 4 game?)

The current 6th and 7th teams in the conference are Creighton and MU. StJ can slide into this group with a bunch of wins.
It would behoove Marquette to stay ahead of Creighton and StJ in the pecking order come March. That’s why that home loss the other day was so tough, but there’s a lot of time to make a loss like that up.

That said, I know this is “way too early” and there’s a lot of basketball to be played, after all MU needs to find a way to get 10 wins one way or another.

Also, I’m sure Brew will cringe because the committee doesn’t look at conferences, they just take the best at large teams, but it can’t hurt to have a better resume than the other bubble teams inside your conference.


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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #662 on: January 06, 2022, 02:23:10 PM »
Also, I’m sure Brew will cringe because the committee doesn’t look at conferences, they just take the best at large teams, but it can’t hurt to have a better resume than the other bubble teams inside your conference.

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So first off, I agree that the Big East is looking at a floor of 5 bids with 6 likely and 7 possible. And while they don't look at conferences, that doesn't mean that conference results against other conferences don't impact number of bids. Here's the total number of games by quadrant left on Marquette's schedule:

Quadrant 1: 8 games
Quadrant 2: 1 game (2 if we make up @ St. John's)
Quadrant 3: 6 games
Quadrant 4: 0 games

For this team to be at-large worthy, my contention has been they need to win 11 Big East games, which at a bare minimum gives us 3 more Quadrant 1 wins to the two we already have. So compare that with a bubble team from another league, say North Carolina.

Quadrant 1: 5 games
Quadrant 2: 4 games
Quadrant 3: 4 games
Quadrant 4: 3 games

Currently, UNC has no Quad 1 wins. So if Marquette does what I think they need to do to be on the right side of the bubble (5 Q1 wins) and they were being compared to UNC, the Tar Heels would have to sweep their Quad 1 opportunities to match MU's Q1 win total. That would mean sweeping Duke and beating Clemson, Virginia Tech, and Wake Forest on the road (they project as underdogs in all 5 games) and they would also want to avoid more bad (Q3/4) losses, which would be difficult because they play more such games and in this scenario, we are assuming MU sweeps their Q3 games as any total that gets to 11 Big East wins and adds Q3 losses would necessitate even more Quad 1 wins added, which would strengthen the resume more than the Q3 loss would hurt it.

That's a long way of saying that while they won't look at league affiliation, your league affiliation will determine who you play, how many good (Q1+2) win opportunities you get, and how many bad (Q3+4) loss opportunities you have. In the Big East, the better metrics mean the league is likely to put more teams in because almost anyone that finishes 11-9 or better in the league is probably getting in, aside from Butler and Georgetown, who probably don't have a shot at 11+ Big East wins anyway.
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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #663 on: January 06, 2022, 05:04:25 PM »
Great stuff.

You still of the opinion that 9 conference wins (assuming MU plays them all and is 9-11), plus one win in the BET won’t be enough?

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« Reply #664 on: January 06, 2022, 06:42:40 PM »
Great stuff.

You still of the opinion that 9 conference wins (assuming MU plays them all and is 9-11), plus one win in the BET won’t be enough?
Lot rides on who win and loses are against but I would think that scenario would most likely be NIT
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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #665 on: January 06, 2022, 07:44:06 PM »
Great stuff.

You still of the opinion that 9 conference wins (assuming MU plays them all and is 9-11), plus one win in the BET won’t be enough?

Here would be my guesses assuming we play 19 or 20 games:

7 wins: NIT bubble
8-9 wins: NIT
10 wins: NCAA bubble (probably out)
11 wins: NCAA bubble (probably in)
12+ wins: NCAA, playing for seeding

Also, Championship Week doesn't really matter. I did an exhaustive deep dive into the bubble last year and found that the idea of teams playing their way in during Championship Week is just a myth, and the only way you likely fall out of the field is the combination of a bad loss and bid thieves.

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Re: 2021-22 Big East Conference Results
« Reply #666 on: January 07, 2022, 09:26:21 PM »
Sick of hearing about Adam Kunkel's shot to beat Marquette. Well, he is putting on a show and then some at Butler. Nailing three's and some sick drive to the hoop.

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« Reply #667 on: January 07, 2022, 09:34:17 PM »
Anyone else tired of Lavall not knowing when to call it? 5 possession game with less than 90 seconds to go and he’s still fouling. Someone’s going to get hurt with all of these (unnecessarily hard) intentional fouls.

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« Reply #668 on: January 07, 2022, 09:59:52 PM »
Anyone else tired of Lavall not knowing when to call it? 5 possession game with less than 90 seconds to go and he’s still fouling. Someone’s going to get hurt with all of these (unnecessarily hard) intentional fouls.

Lavall is my least favorite coach in the Big East. Used to be Willard, but he's earned some grudging respect.
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« Reply #669 on: January 07, 2022, 10:13:33 PM »
Lavall is my least favorite coach in the Big East. Used to be Willard, but he's earned some grudging respect.
Probably won’t have to worry about him for much longer.

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« Reply #670 on: January 08, 2022, 11:50:08 AM »
The refs in Providence/SJU are pretty damn awful.

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« Reply #671 on: January 08, 2022, 11:52:38 AM »
The refs in Providence/SJU are pretty damn awful.

Favors SJUs kamikaze style a bit more

You need to change your handle to refpolice

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« Reply #672 on: January 08, 2022, 11:53:18 AM »
The refs in Providence/SJU are pretty damn awful.

Favors SJUs kamikaze style a bit more

SJU playing with a bit more swagger at the moment
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« Reply #673 on: January 08, 2022, 11:56:49 AM »
SJU playing with a bit more swagger at the moment

Oh they definitely are. Posh is such a menace. And a really good finisher at 6 foot.
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« Reply #674 on: January 08, 2022, 11:57:14 AM »
You need to change your handle to refpolice

How about “manwith2eyes”
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