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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: QuetteHoops on January 16, 2012, 02:02:01 PM
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Is on right now (2 p.m.) on ESPNU featuring future Marquette star Steve Taylor...
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Parker is amazing
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Parker is amazing
He has 15 of the 24 so far. Taylor struggling.
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Simeon getting killed. Mailing in the rest of the game.
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How is Nunn doing?
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http://yourseason.suntimes.com/home/10049130-390/boys-basketball-findlay-prep-routs-simeon.html
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Taylor struggling.
If Steve Taylor can't get it done in high school, how is he going to get it done in the Big East? I don't understand how Buzz and Marquette can't get recruits who can score in high school.
...Sorry, I refuse to use different colors. If you can't figure it out, then I'm glad you don't understand.
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How is Nunn doing?
Nunn was held to three points and three rebounds.
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Did he add any MU followers on Twitter?
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Saw the game, Nunn either had a bad game or is not that good. Not much of an offensive game, much like Derrick Wilson, has along way to go. Short. I like Mayo and Blue
as our guards just because of there length. Both can rebound. Taylor looked awful but I can see his potential. Nice body, if he adds 10-15 lbs of muscle he would look like
Crowder in the future. Tall, maybe 6' 8". The talent on the court for high school was ridiculous. I am sure he was very nervous and he looked it. Next year, I see as a player
that will get about 15 minutes a game. Not really that quick, got beat off the dribble, does not have great hops. Will be a fine player in the future, good upside. Shot the ball
poorly all game. Parker has huge upside.
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If Steve Taylor can't get it done in high school, how is he going to get it done in the Big East? I don't understand how Buzz and Marquette can't get recruits who can score in high school.
...Sorry, I refuse to use different colors. If you can't figure it out, then I'm glad you don't understand.
I don't know if that's your first time seeing Taylor but the games I have seen of his, he has looked really, really good. I have not seen him hit 17+ footers but more than a few 15 footers and look pretty good at the free throw line as well.
He'll be fine.
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Did he add any MU followers on Twitter?
I can't be positive, but I believe that I saw him miss a three when it looked like he was sending a tweet at the same time.
Could have been a text message...
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I know wade you see the game on such a different level....please.
I was watching on split screen, believe me he was struggling and so was the rest of the team.
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I know wade you see the game on such a different level....please.
I was watching on split screen, believe me he was struggling and so was the rest of the team.
I was poking fun at the members of the board who complain that Durley hasn't done anything on his high school team. I'm sure he struggled. I didn't see the game. I'm just saying that struggling in a high school game doesn't mean a player won't succeed at the college level like some on this board think.
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Got it.
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I was poking fun at the members of the board who complain that Durley hasn't done anything on his high school team. I'm sure he struggled. I didn't see the game. I'm just saying that struggling in a high school game doesn't mean a player won't succeed at the college level like some on this board think.
Damn that sarcasm! Missed that. :D
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I was poking fun at the members of the board who complain that Durley hasn't done anything on his high school team. I'm sure he struggled. I didn't see the game. I'm just saying that struggling in a high school game doesn't mean a player won't succeed at the college level like some on this board think.
Total mischaracterization of my of my position. You may think that having an off night (8 points, 8 rebounds vs the best high school team in the country) is equivalent to riding the pines and only playing garbage minutes on your high school team. I don't and have never suggested anything of the sort.
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Two years (December 2009 to be exact) we all watched Jamil Jones school Austin Rivers on ESPN.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=16667.msg162153#msg162153
After that game everyone here was so giddy that our biggest worry was Jones would leave MU early for the NBA. Further, we wet our pants that between him and future NBA'er Erik Williams we as good at the 3/4 as anybody in the nation.
Moral of the story, whatever Taylor did, or did not do, on ESPNU yesterday is meaningless for what he does at MU starting next year.
And for the record, I still think Jones can be very good for us once he gets his confidence/swaggger back.
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This was the third time I've seen Simeon. Obviously impressed as hell with Parker, a no-brainer college star. Quite unimpressed with Nunn, who looked especially outclassed in this one.
As for Taylor ...
His shot looks decent form-wise but he hasn't made many in the three games I've seen. He was 0-fer on 3-pointers in this one, and he took plenty; 2 or 3 were total bricks. He has missed more FTs than he's made, although, again, form looks OK. On defense, his man often beats him off the dribble. He regularly was out of position on the defensive boards. A couple times after grabbing offensive boards, he immediately dribbled in traffic, eliminating any advantage he might have had. In this one, Taylor primarily matched up against Brandon Ashley, an Arizona recruit who generally is considered the top power forward in the country; Ashley pretty much dominated.
All that being said, Taylor has a lot of potential and already a decent skill set. He has a good body that can get better, he's a good athlete and he looks like a guy who will really fill the wing on the break. And I still think (hope?) he'll be a good shooter.
Definitely needs plenty of coaching and work in the weight room.
Glad we got him, but we should avoid expecting him to be a star, especially as a freshman. Most posters here seem to understand that!
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I think its usually a mistake to expect significant contributions from a freshman. And I like having a deep team (we're getting there) so we don't have to.
I was delighted last year to get meaningful production out of DG and this year with Mayo. Although Mayo is a very "mature" freshman, I recall. How old is he?
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Two years (December 2009 to be exact) we all watched Jamil Jones school Austin Rivers on ESPN.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=16667.msg162153#msg162153
After that game everyone here was so giddy that our biggest worry was Jones would leave MU early for the NBA. Further, we wet our pants that between him and future NBA'er Erik Williams we as good at the 3/4 as anybody in the nation.
Moral of the story, whatever Taylor did, or did not do, on ESPNU yesterday is meaningless for what he does at MU starting next year.
And for the record, I still think Jones can be very good for us once he gets his confidence/swaggger back.
Big time. Him and Wilson will be really good once they get comfortable. I hope we can start blowing out some teams to get these guys some quality minutes. And Wilson needs to move out to a wing.
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Erick, what makes you think that Jamail can be very good for us, yet you "don't think Vander is any good?" Two guys...same class...one guy gets playing time...the other is stapled to the bench with two straight DNPs.
Come on...at least be consistent.
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I think its usually a mistake to expect significant contributions from a freshman. And I like having a deep team (we're getting there) so we don't have to.
I was delighted last year to get meaningful production out of DG and this year with Mayo. Although Mayo is a very "mature" freshman, I recall. How old is he?
Mayo is 20, and he will turn 21 in March. For comparison, I turned 21 in February of my junior year. Mayo is more than a year older than Blue & Jones.
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Did he add any MU followers on Twitter?
I follow him! Nice guy it seems like...based off of Twitter...haha
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I think its usually a mistake to expect significant contributions from a freshman. And I like having a deep team (we're getting there) so we don't have to.
I think some have higher expectations for Taylor because we're unsure about the 4. I expect Jamil to take Crowder's role, but who else seems suited for minutes there? Maybe playing CO and DG together in stretches? Mellow might have the strength, but hasn't shown enough on the court to ease anyone. Juan is a great rebounder but more of a point forward.
Taylor looks like more of a 4 than anyone here. I don't expect much from freshmen, but could see us needing 8-10 mpg at that position, and he's the most natural fit.
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Agreed. I've got lots of positive thoughts going regarding Taylor. :)
Plus its really good that we got a stud recruit form the Chi-town area.
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Nunn was held to three points and three rebounds.
Kendrick Nunn is a very good player and I felt as little as two weeks ago that he should be the focus at guard for Buzz and the staff for 2013. From recent reports, I personally think that Duane Wilson Jr. at Dominican may be the better priority choice since he could run the team from the point guard spot in the future at Marquette. Either player would be a very good get for MU.
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Kendrick Nunn is a very good player and I felt as little as two weeks ago that he should be the focus at guard for Buzz and the staff for 2013. From recent reports, I personally think that Duane Wilson Jr. at Dominican may be the better priority choice since he could run the team from the point guard spot in the future at Marquette. Either player would be a very good get for MU.
This is exactly how I feel. Either player would be an excellent addition. I just hope we get one of them.
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Regarding Nunn, maybe he didn't light it up against Findlay prep but an AAU coach that I know that has seen him play has really good thing to say about him. A great basketball IQ is the term often used. I also like the idea of expanding the MU recruiting footprint in the Chicago Public League, I think there is some pretty good talent in and around the Chicago area.
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Regarding Nunn, maybe he didn't light it up against Findlay prep but an AAU coach that I know that has seen him play has really good thing to say about him. A great basketball IQ is the term often used. I also like the idea of expanding the MU recruiting footprint in the Chicago Public League, I think there is some pretty good talent in and around the Chicago area.
Yeah--a few years back 6 of the sweet 16 point guards were from the Chi-area. D Rose, J Schreier, etc. I also think there is some pretty good talent in and around the Chicago area.
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http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/
Looks like Taylor had a great game against tough Memphis competition.