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Re: SOTG LSU
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2017, 09:43:03 PM »
Matty was so very solid.  As Bilas said, Wojo wouldn't want anyone else.

Yeah, that was a nice tribute, but c'mon. Assuming Wojo wants to win basketball games there are 50 -100 college centers he'd rather have than Matty.

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« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2017, 09:45:55 PM »
Easily Rowsey.

Yes, he was horrible for a few minutes there, but he pulled himself together and put the team on his back in the critical stage of the game. Then he clinched it by swishing 5,883 straight free throws. Besides, was there any MU player who was perfect every minute he was in the game?

IMHO, some Scoopers have a tendency to want to give it to somebody other than the obvious player, I assume in an effort to spread SOTG around. It's that good ol' MU generosity! Heldt, Sam and Sacar did well. Howard had his moments, and even Elliottt did.

But come on.

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Re: SOTG LSU
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2017, 09:47:29 PM »
Gotta go with Rowsey. It's scary when he goes to the hoop - the outcome is too often a block that should be called a TO, or a straight TO, which becomes the opponents' first pass on a break. He can find someone in the corner sometimes, and then there are occasional baskets. Nevertheless, 30 is 30, and he brought the ball up most of the time. Good performance from the line maintained the lead.

Flawed, but Rowsey gets the nod.

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Re: SOTG LSU
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2017, 09:48:06 PM »
Rowsey was terrible in the first half.  Hauser was amazing.

Rowsy was amazing in the 2nd half.  Hauser kind of vanished.

Sacar played great the entire time.  I'm giving it to Sacar.

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« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2017, 09:54:21 PM »
1. #thething

Carried our offense down the stretch.  When the rest of our team was starting to tire and come up short on shots, Rowsey was at his best.  Swishing 3's, drawing fouls, driving to the hoop; just a scoring machine.

2. Doogie Hauser

Sure he did the bulk of his damage early but he was so good in that time he's still #2.  Plus it's not his fault the refs called him for a bogus 4th foul and caused him to sit much of the 2nd half.

3. Anim/Heldt

Both really hustled and added some much needed scoring to go along with there solid defense.

HM:  Elliott

Solid D and hustle to go along with his 4 points.  Once he get some muscle and refines his skill set, watch out.  High ceiling.


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« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2017, 10:00:32 PM »
PS- Why do some Scoopers favor steady but unspectacular play?  Some are penalizing Rowsey tonight because he wasn't perfect.  But his good was way better than his bad and better than anyone else's good.  Rowsey, Howard, and Hauser are also asked to do the heavy lifting so of course they're going to make more mistakes than the role players.  But they're asked to do more for a reason.

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« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2017, 10:06:50 PM »
PS- Why do some Scoopers favor steady but unspectacular play?

FWIW I called Heldt solid but unspectacular, but further up Rowsey was my SOTG pick.
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Re: SOTG LSU
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2017, 10:07:33 PM »
Lot’s of good performances, but this one goes to Rowsy.

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« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2017, 10:08:10 PM »
Rowsey was terrible in the first half.

Incorrect.

While we were building a 37-24 lead in the first 11 minutes, Rowsey was 2-for-2 (both 3s), and also had 2A, 1 reb and only 1 TO. If every Warrior is that "terrible" the rest of the season, we will win the Big East.

Stretch it out 3 more minutes and Rowsey was 2-for-3 with 3A and 1 TO through 14 minutes, after which we led 42-32. Again, I'd take such "terribleness" from everybody.

He sucked over the final few minutes of the first half and, like the rest of his teammates, he let LSU back in the game. As I said earlier, "he was horrible for a few minutes there."

But he shook it off and carried us in the second half.

So he was very good to excellent for 26-27 of his 31 minutes and finished with 30 effen points.

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« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2017, 10:21:09 PM »


It's fun to tout some of the new guys, but please don't build your case on alternative facts.

Fake news is a staple on Scoop. Sad.

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« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2017, 10:26:06 PM »
MUBB says Sacar.
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« Reply #36 on: November 22, 2017, 10:40:33 PM »
MUBB says Sacar.

Totally. Great energy and effort. When he went on Waters he was 8-9 with 2 assists accounting for all of LSU's offense. Runner up was Matt who got three of their bigs in foul trouble. Liked Elliott's effort too.  Good poise and playmaking instincts.

Wojo reamed Andrew in the first and he responded like a leader.  I might add Markus, who is banged up, led MU in rebounding. 

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« Reply #37 on: November 22, 2017, 10:55:04 PM »
Incorrect.

While we were building a 37-24 lead in the first 11 minutes, Rowsey was 2-for-2 (both 3s), and also had 2A, 1 reb and only 1 TO. If every Warrior is that "terrible" the rest of the season, we will win the Big East.

Stretch it out 3 more minutes and Rowsey was 2-for-3 with 3A and 1 TO through 14 minutes, after which we led 42-32. Again, I'd take such "terribleness" from everybody.

He sucked over the final few minutes of the first half and, like the rest of his teammates, he let LSU back in the game. As I said earlier, "he was horrible for a few minutes there."

But he shook it off and carried us in the second half.

So he was very good to excellent for 26-27 of his 31 minutes and finished with 30 effen points.

It's fun to tout some of the new guys, but please don't build your case on alternative facts.

He started the game with a TO on the 2nd play of the game, basically handed the ball to LSU.  He played loose with the ball the entire first half, made poor decisions and was lazy with the ball.  Lots of TOs, and not hustling on D.  That's why he had 5 first half turnovers.

You are looking at boxscore elements and forgetting that there is a heck of a lot more to the game than that.

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Re: SOTG LSU
« Reply #38 on: November 22, 2017, 11:09:32 PM »
Anyone who doesn't say Wowsey doesn't know basketball.

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Re: SOTG LSU
« Reply #39 on: November 22, 2017, 11:10:16 PM »
Rowsey

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« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2017, 11:12:37 PM »
Anyone who doesn't say Wowsey doesn't know basketball.

The guy single handedly kept LSU in the game in the first half.
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Re: SOTG LSU
« Reply #41 on: November 22, 2017, 11:15:01 PM »
Anim was the only one that slowed Waters, and was one of the only players that showed a reliability to get to the rim.

Anim is gong to be nasty with another year of development, boy does he look smooth.

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« Reply #42 on: November 22, 2017, 11:15:20 PM »
The guy single handedly kept LSU in the game in the first half.

Ha. No. A man who handles as much possesions as Rowsey is allowed to have 5 turnovers a half. If this was derrick wilson you have a case. A guy who literally is 70% of Marquette's offense is allowed to have a few mistakes.

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« Reply #43 on: November 22, 2017, 11:20:33 PM »
Anim.    Thought he played a great game tonight

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« Reply #44 on: November 22, 2017, 11:21:15 PM »
Anyone who doesn't say Wowsey doesn't know basketball.


So, MUBB doesn't know basketball?

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« Reply #45 on: November 22, 2017, 11:36:08 PM »
Ha. No. A man who handles as much possesions as Rowsey is allowed to have 5 turnovers a half. If this was derrick wilson you have a case. A guy who literally is 70% of Marquette's offense is allowed to have a few mistakes.
70% of the offense?

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« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2017, 11:36:43 PM »
Rowsey's first half was so absolutely awful I am not going with him.  He also got a lot of points from the line while LSU was fouling to extend the game.

1a) Heldt
1b) Anim

2) Sam

3) Rowsey

HM) GE

This is pure insanity. Just trying to be unconventional. Any time a guy puts up 30 and is perfect from the FT line, he's the unquestioned SOTG. No questions asked.

Heldt wasn't a star, he just didn't screw up. Drawing a walk with the bases loaded is not the same as home runs. Anim played well for a freshman, but he still had some issues to be worked out. Sam didn't do anything in the second half. This one is a no brainer.

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« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2017, 11:56:36 PM »
Rowsey.


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« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2017, 11:59:08 PM »
This is pure insanity. Just trying to be unconventional. Any time a guy puts up 30 and is perfect from the FT line, he's the unquestioned SOTG. No questions asked.

Heldt wasn't a star, he just didn't screw up. Drawing a walk with the bases loaded is not the same as home runs. Anim played well for a freshman, but he still had some issues to be worked out. Sam didn't do anything in the second half. This one is a no brainer.

MUBB disagrees.

Rowsey and Waters were the only 2 reasons LSU was ever in the game at any point.  Had Rowsey simply played bad in the first half we would've been up 15.  Sam may have done nothing in the second half, but at least he wasn't a net negative in the second half like Rowsey was in the first half.

Sacar and Matt were by far our 2 best defenders today, with Greg being our 3rd best defender.
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« Reply #49 on: November 23, 2017, 12:10:05 AM »
MUBB disagrees.

Rowsey and Waters were the only 2 reasons LSU was ever in the game at any point.  Had Rowsey simply played bad in the first half we would've been up 15.  Sam may have done nothing in the second half, but at least he wasn't a net negative in the second half like Rowsey was in the first half.

Sacar and Matt were by far our 2 best defenders today, with Greg being our 3rd best defender.

If you're giving out awards for best performance based on a defense that allowed 84 points, you might want to rethink your evaluation criteria. This team is 100% about offense. Defense is bad and doesn't appear to be trending in a positive direction from last year. Saying that Anim played good D on a kid that put up 40 is an awfully low bar.