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Title: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on August 06, 2016, 11:51:37 AM
Jimmy debuts tonight at 5 CST against the Chinese.  Broadcast on NBCSN. 

Too lazy to look, is Yao Ming playing for the commies?
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: warriorchick on August 06, 2016, 11:55:17 AM
Jimmy debuts tonight at 5 CST against the Chinese.  Broadcast on NBCSN. 

Too lazy to look, is Yao Ming playing for the commies?

No.  He hasn't played basketball in any meaningful way in 5 years.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: Slim on August 06, 2016, 02:21:05 PM
Ex-Buck Yi Jianlian will be playing!
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: HoopsterBC on August 06, 2016, 02:23:16 PM
Ex-Buck Yi Jianlian will be playing!

Who was the idiot GM who picked him?  Between him and Joe Alexander, ouch, and maybe Rashard Vaughn, not sure he is quick enough or good enough.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: wadesworld on August 06, 2016, 02:46:35 PM
Who was the idiot GM who picked him?  Between him and Joe Alexander, ouch, and maybe Rashard Vaughn, not sure he is quick enough or good enough.

Just look at the Bucks first round picks from about 1999-2011. It's embarrassing.

11 - Jimmer
10 - Sanders
09 - Jennings
08 - Alexander
07 - Yi
06 - no first round pick
05 - Bogut (at 1 overall)
04 - no first round pick
03 - Ford
02 - Hasslip
01 - no first round pick
00 - Collier
99 - no first round pick
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on August 06, 2016, 04:09:22 PM
Just look at the Bucks first round picks from about 1999-2011. It's embarrassing.

11 - Jimmer
10 - Sanders
09 - Jennings
08 - Alexander
07 - Yi
06 - no first round pick
05 - Bogut (at 1 overall)
04 - no first round pick
03 - Ford
02 - Hasslip
01 - no first round pick
00 - Collier
99 - no first round pick

Ouch.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on August 06, 2016, 05:20:43 PM
Butler will get significant pt with 16 point lead and growing. 
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: DUNKS45 on August 06, 2016, 05:23:47 PM
Jimmy finishes the fast break for 2 to end the period.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on August 06, 2016, 05:27:32 PM
Jimmy finishes the fast break for 2 to end the period.

Hey dunks. 

Have you heard any reports from SF this weekend?
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: Skatastrophy on August 06, 2016, 06:11:27 PM
I'm watching the BBC stream of the USA v China game. We just got a Marquette mention when the announcer walked the audience through JFB's backstory.

We've gone international, boys!
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: warriorchick on August 06, 2016, 06:20:27 PM
I'm watching the BBC stream of the USA v China game. We just got a Marquette mention when the announcer walked the audience through JFB's backstory.

We've gone international, boys!

What - American TV isn't good enough for you?
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: Skatastrophy on August 06, 2016, 06:27:35 PM
What - American TV isn't good enough for you?

BBC has no commercials, and they show the full games with minimal chit chat. American TV is way behind the times!
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on August 06, 2016, 06:28:02 PM
What - American TV isn't good enough for you?

We are up by 44. I wonder how many points Vegas was giving?   ;)
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on August 06, 2016, 06:30:37 PM
Ox would be a force in China too.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: naginiF on August 06, 2016, 08:44:15 PM
SMH - i came here for the "we accidentally went to a brothel" commentary. 
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: SaveOD238 on August 06, 2016, 08:46:04 PM
BBC has no commercials, and they show the full games with minimal chit chat. American TV is way behind the times!

I was surprised, but the NBC broadcast only had commercials between quarters.  Thanks McDonalds!
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: GGGG on August 06, 2016, 08:47:05 PM
Ox would be a force in China too.

I would be a force in China.  A fifth of the worlds population and that's the best they can come up with???
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on August 07, 2016, 07:28:25 AM
JFB's next game is Monday at 5 CST against Venezuela. NBCSP

Curious if anyone remembers exactly how the nickname JFB came about.  Was it his senior year?
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on August 07, 2016, 08:11:51 AM
My hommie, F*ckin', couldn't spell or pronounce Jimmy's middle name. So, he gave him one that he was familiar with, hey?
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: Skatastrophy on August 07, 2016, 09:02:46 AM
JFB's next game is Monday at 5 CST against Venezuela. NBCSP

Curious if anyone remembers exactly how the nickname JFB came about.  Was it his senior year?

ZFB gave him the name in Jimmy's nickname thread. Let's use the wayback machine!

First ever mention of Jimmy F*cking Butler on muscoop. Also first mention of JFB: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=16621.msg161756#msg161756

Henry Sugar was an early advocate, when everyone else was trying to get "The Jimmy" to stick

Second JFB mention: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=16882.msg165579#msg165579





Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on August 07, 2016, 09:31:41 AM
ZFB gave him the name in Jimmy's nickname thread. Let's use the wayback machine!

First ever mention of Jimmy F*cking Butler on muscoop. Also first mention of JFB: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=16621.msg161756#msg161756

Henry Sugar was an early advocate, when everyone else was trying to get "The Jimmy" to stick

Second JFB mention: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=16882.msg165579#msg165579


I seem to remember this was then solidified as he started to hit a string of game winning shots in just a few short weeks from this thread.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on August 07, 2016, 10:36:26 AM
ZFB gave him the name in Jimmy's nickname thread. Let's use the wayback machine!

First ever mention of Jimmy F*cking Butler on muscoop. Also first mention of JFB: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=16621.msg161756#msg161756

Henry Sugar was an early advocate, when everyone else was trying to get "The Jimmy" to stick

Second JFB mention: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=16882.msg165579#msg165579

Well done. You get a Scoop gold star today.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on August 07, 2016, 10:55:34 AM
Look at all the old time scoopers. Whatever happened to Warthog?
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: GGGG on August 07, 2016, 10:58:56 AM
Look at all the old time scoopers. Whatever happened to Warthog?

Warthog = keefe
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on August 07, 2016, 11:18:32 AM
Warthog = keefe

Is it really, shoulda known with the poetry.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on August 07, 2016, 11:19:25 AM
Keefe's had several identities over the years.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on August 07, 2016, 11:21:41 AM
ZFB gave him the name in Jimmy's nickname thread. Let's use the wayback machine!

First ever mention of Jimmy F*cking Butler on muscoop. Also first mention of JFB: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=16621.msg161756#msg161756

Henry Sugar was an early advocate, when everyone else was trying to get "The Jimmy" to stick

Second JFB mention: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=16882.msg165579#msg165579

2009...pre RC83
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: MU82 on August 07, 2016, 03:20:52 PM
2009...pre RC83

Pre MU82, too. Look at all the fun we missed!
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: muwarrior69 on August 07, 2016, 07:18:59 PM
Well, I guess Marquette does have a great football player.

http://www.espn.com/olympics/basketball/story/_/id/17240004/usa-basketball-teammates-klay-thompson-jimmy-butler-go-head-head-football-field
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: Brewtown Andy on August 08, 2016, 09:09:21 AM
I was surprised, but the NBC broadcast only had commercials between quarters.  Thanks McDonalds!

Kind of surprising that the IOC isn't a big fan of media timeouts.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: Benny B on August 08, 2016, 01:51:11 PM
I would be a force in China.  A fifth of the worlds population and that's the best they can come up with???

Incidentally, I was thinking the other day... we have a glut of hoops talent in the U.S., a nation which happens to include such possessions and territories as the USVI, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Marshall Islands, all of which have entries in the Olympics.

Other countries have "foreigners" competing under their Olympic flags... some with direct ties to the respective flag, some with distant ties.  But in all of these cases, it's sovereign countries having athletes who reside in other sovereign countries... why not put together a B-team with collegiate all-stars and have them compete under the Guam flag?  Or maybe the champion of the Paradise Jam gets to represent the USVI in the Olympics?

But seriously... why don't we have more people competing under the flags of our possessions and territories?  You give priority to the natives, and anyone else with US citizenship can fill in the vacancies.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on August 08, 2016, 01:54:13 PM
Incidentally, I was thinking the other day... we have a glut of hoops talent in the U.S., a nation which happens to include such possessions and territories as the USVI, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Marshall Islands, all of which have entries in the Olympics.

Other countries have "foreigners" competing under their Olympic flags... some with direct ties to the respective flag, some with distant ties.  But in all of these cases, it's sovereign countries having athletes who reside in other sovereign countries... why not put together a B-team with collegiate all-stars and have them compete under the Guam flag?  Or maybe the champion of the Paradise Jam gets to represent the USVI in the Olympics?

But seriously... why don't we have more people competing under the flags of our possessions and territories?  You give priority to the natives, and anyone else with US citizenship can fill in the vacancies.

Maybe on a related note, why doesn't the University of Puerto Rico compete in NCAA basketball?  Don't they host a tournament, the San Juan Shootout or something like that?
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: GGGG on August 08, 2016, 01:57:15 PM
Maybe on a related note, why doesn't the University of Puerto Rico compete in NCAA basketball? 


They do.  Division II.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on August 08, 2016, 02:03:02 PM
Maybe on a related note, why doesn't the University of Puerto Rico compete in NCAA basketball?  Don't they host a tournament, the San Juan Shootout or something like that?
They did compete D1 for a while, but traveling costs were too muchand there is no fan interest for the local U in basketball. Plus once the PR basketball league was deemed as a pro league it was over. Many of the local college players do play in the local league. The shootout is not hosted by the U and it is played in one of the two main basketball venues where the local pro teams play.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on August 08, 2016, 02:17:41 PM
Incidentally, I was thinking the other day... we have a glut of hoops talent in the U.S., a nation which happens to include such possessions and territories as the USVI, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Marshall Islands, all of which have entries in the Olympics.

Other countries have "foreigners" competing under their Olympic flags... some with direct ties to the respective flag, some with distant ties.  But in all of these cases, it's sovereign countries having athletes who reside in other sovereign countries... why not put together a B-team with collegiate all-stars and have them compete under the Guam flag?  Or maybe the champion of the Paradise Jam gets to represent the USVI in the Olympics?

But seriously... why don't we have more people competing under the flags of our possessions and territories?  You give priority to the natives, and anyone else with US citizenship can fill in the vacancies.
Can't really do what you are saying. To compete for PR you would either need to have been born here, have family ties (grandparents), lived here and nationalized sportswise and I believe it is after 5 years. If you are born here you can opt to compete for US then can't compete for PR's team. Most of the territories do have national basketball teams but you have to compete in regional tournaments to qualify.
These Olympics for example there were 2 spots already taken in the America's section, Brazil for being host country and US for being world champs & gold medalists. So I think that left like 2 or 3 spots open. These were given in the FIBA Americas tournament where PR missed to qualify even tho we had three NBA or former NBA players on the roster. Even Argentina needed to qualify, Venezuela was the big surprise. Then there was a special tournament the winner out of eight teams qualifies, we were runner up so no Olympics for our basketball team.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on August 08, 2016, 02:49:40 PM
There are some silly eligibility rules. There was a cyclist for the Great Britain team who won a medal for with Kenya in 2012. Not Olympic related, but Diego Costs spent most of his life playing soccer for Brazil, only to start playing for Spain like 3 years ago.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: Jay Bee on August 08, 2016, 04:40:55 PM
ZFB plays for the other team, a''ina??
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: Mutaman on August 08, 2016, 06:03:45 PM
Jimmy is really on the bit. He just never lets up. Would be nice if they gave him more minutes.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: Benny B on August 08, 2016, 09:49:10 PM
Can't really do what you are saying. To compete for PR you would either need to have been born here, have family ties (grandparents), lived here and nationalized sportswise and I believe it is after 5 years. If you are born here you can opt to compete for US then can't compete for PR's team. Most of the territories do have national basketball teams but you have to compete in regional tournaments to qualify.
These Olympics for example there were 2 spots already taken in the America's section, Brazil for being host country and US for being world champs & gold medalists. So I think that left like 2 or 3 spots open. These were given in the FIBA Americas tournament where PR missed to qualify even tho we had three NBA or former NBA players on the roster. Even Argentina needed to qualify, Venezuela was the big surprise. Then there was a special tournament the winner out of eight teams qualifies, we were runner up so no Olympics for our basketball team.

What about swimming or gymnastics?  Or track and field?  Gabby mght have won bronze by competing for PR in the all around (hypothetically of course, since then she wouldn't be able to compete in the team competition).

The 5 year rule must be a national committee rule, right?  It would seem that the IOC doesn't have a say.

Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on August 09, 2016, 09:42:53 AM
What about swimming or gymnastics?  Or track and field?  Gabby mght have won bronze by competing for PR in the all around (hypothetically of course, since then she wouldn't be able to compete in the team competition).

The 5 year rule must be a national committee rule, right?  It would seem that the IOC doesn't have a say.
Hahahaha, ok I'll bite and keep playing. We have all those teams(checkers you name it). We have qualified mainly individually for gymnastics over the years and have had a couple of top 10 finishes. We have a top 3 world athlete in 400 mts hurdles, won bronze last Olympics and won the Diamond league (the NBA of track and field) a couple of years ago. Check that event out, right now some of the best athletes in the history of the sport are competing.
We have had people born here or of PR heritage compete for the US teams over the years, but once you go compete for US or PR you have to stay in that delegation so if you do not make it is very hard to get IOC clearance to go back.
Carmelo Anthony is of PR heritage. The year he played NCAA, the basketball delegation tried to convince him to play for the PR team but obviously no.  He currently owns the PR pro soccer team.   
The "5 year" (not sure how many) rule is IOC, I believe national committees can increase but not decrease years. There are other rules like if you emigrate due to political persecution you will be allowed to represent the new host country.   
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on August 10, 2016, 04:02:14 PM
JFB today at 5 versus Australia.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on August 17, 2016, 04:56:49 PM
USA down by 7 in first quarter. All points by Durant so far.  Team is ice cold. No JFB sightings yet.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on August 17, 2016, 05:11:33 PM
JFB in for defensive toughness.  Just had a steal and basket, plus 1.  USA up by 15 with JFB in. Durant hot too.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on August 17, 2016, 06:26:41 PM
JFB and team whoop arse by 27 against Argentina.  Butler was tough tonight.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on August 17, 2016, 06:43:42 PM
Maybe it's Marquette bias, but Jimmy seemed to make a huge difference tonight. In the first quarter when Argentina was handling us, they brought Jimmy in and he just made plays. Keyed the big run that gave USA the lead they never relinquished. Great game for him.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on August 17, 2016, 06:56:43 PM
Maybe it's Marquette bias, but Jimmy seemed to make a huge difference tonight. In the first quarter when Argentina was handling us, they brought Jimmy in and he just made plays. Keyed the big run that gave USA the lead they never relinquished. Great game for him.

Jimmy was a warrior tonight. He didn't score the most, but was just plain tough.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: DUNKS45 on August 17, 2016, 07:48:48 PM
Jimmy brought the D today, good to see him get the minutes.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: jsglow on August 18, 2016, 09:57:39 AM
Jimmy brought the D today, good to see him get the minutes.

Loved the Jimmy/George lineup.  Coach K had seen enough of the entitled superstars giving up layups.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: GGGG on August 18, 2016, 10:04:11 AM
Loved the Jimmy/George lineup.  Coach K had seen enough of the entitled superstars giving up layups.


Can we just stop with the "entitled superstar" narrative?  Jimmy Butler has a nearly $100 million contract and lives in a River North condo worth something like $5 million.

Yes, his defensive focus is what Team USA needed yesterday and he played a great game.  Let's not make it more than that.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: jsglow on August 18, 2016, 10:11:05 AM

Can we just stop with the "entitled superstar" narrative?  Jimmy Butler has a nearly $100 million contract and lives in a River North condo worth something like $5 million.

Yes, his defensive focus is what Team USA needed yesterday and he played a great game.  Let's not make it more than that.

Sorry Sultan, I just don't see it your way.  Sure they all make huge money.  But for me it's an attitude thing.  Some guys down there 'appreciate it' more than others.  I count Jimmy in that camp.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 18, 2016, 10:21:26 AM
Sorry Sultan, I just don't see it your way.  Sure they all make huge money.  But for me it's an attitude thing.  Some guys down there 'appreciate it' more than others.  I count Jimmy in that camp.

I don't. I think he's just as entitled as the other superstars. But he's our entitled superstar.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: GGGG on August 18, 2016, 10:26:27 AM
Sorry Sultan, I just don't see it your way.  Sure they all make huge money.  But for me it's an attitude thing.  Some guys down there 'appreciate it' more than others.  I count Jimmy in that camp.


Based on what?  What leads you to believe that Jimmy "appreciates it" more than others?
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on August 18, 2016, 11:30:54 AM
Jimmy may have been in that camp once, but between the public spats with Rose and his coach, hanging with Hollywood celebs like Mark Wahlberg, I'm pretty sure he's embraced the NBA superstar lifestyle. More power to him, he's earned it, but it's not like he's cut from some different cloth than the other All-stars he's playing with.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: jsglow on August 18, 2016, 01:06:56 PM

Based on what?  What leads you to believe that Jimmy "appreciates it" more than others?

My simple observation is that the following players on the Olympic team are taking this very seriously:

- Durant
- Anthony
- Butler
- George
- Jordan
- Lowry

At the other end of the scale, can anybody really say that Klay Thompson came mentally ready to play?  None of this has anything to do with their bank account or their NBA lifestyle.  That's the only point I'm trying to make.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: GGGG on August 18, 2016, 01:51:06 PM
I'm not doubting that some players aren't playing well.  Klay Thompson is obviously one. 

But that doesn't mean he is a more "entitled superstar" than Butler is.  Maybe he's just playing bad.  Or maybe tired after a long year.  Maybe the whole Olympic experience isn't what he expected. 
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: BM1090 on August 18, 2016, 02:18:04 PM
I'm not doubting that some players aren't playing well.  Klay Thompson is obviously one. 

But that doesn't mean he is a more "entitled superstar" than Butler is.  Maybe he's just playing bad.  Or maybe tired after a long year.  Maybe the whole Olympic experience isn't what he expected.

Yeah I agree with this. Obviously there are some entitled superstars, but guys like Klay, Draymond, Kyrie, Barnes, Durant, Lowry and Derozan have basically been playing basketball since last October with no breaks. Other than Durant, those are the ones I would say haven't played all that well. Could just be tired.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on August 19, 2016, 01:53:13 PM
JFB playing now announcers "the best US team now on the court" and up by 9 1st Qt
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on August 19, 2016, 06:44:56 PM
Missed the game...had to move a kid to college, and hopefully for the last time. 

How did JFB look today?
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: MU82 on August 19, 2016, 10:22:06 PM
Missed the game...had to move a kid to college, and hopefully for the last time. 

How did JFB look today?

Quite bad.

Couldn't finish around the rim or on the few jumpers he took,  had a couple good defensive plays but mostly non-factor there, too. K didn't give him much run in the second half.

He'll bounce back strong for the gold.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: jsglow on August 20, 2016, 01:27:33 PM
Quite bad.

Couldn't finish around the rim or on the few jumpers he took,  had a couple good defensive plays but mostly non-factor there, too. K didn't give him much run in the second half.

He'll bounce back strong for the gold.

Agreed. Wasn't JB's best game.  Still solid on D and passed well. Lots of trouble finishing scoring opportunities.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: Pakuni on August 21, 2016, 12:50:56 PM
Jimmy thinks he's ready for the NFL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvpE0N3y72k&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on August 21, 2016, 02:09:15 PM
Slow start.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on August 21, 2016, 02:30:46 PM
Now turning into a blowout.
Title: Re: JFB Olympic Bball Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on August 21, 2016, 02:54:20 PM
Now turning into a blowout.
Chili my man! Blowout it is...