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I think most reasonable people are right here with you.What some were less keen about was an ignorant reality TV host screaming at press briefings mini-campaign rallies: "Go get this! What do you have to lose?"
I hate the bombastic rhetoric as well and I’m generally a supporter of the president but agree those press briefings did more harm then good half the time for him.But almost 4 years into his presidency he’s obviously not going to change his messaging or how it’s delivered. I try to ignore the day to day chaos with the media and focus on his actions/policies more then the constant carnival barking, which can be difficult at times for sure.
The jury is not out. There are just a few posters determined to show that quack suggestions have merit.
So the Chinese and French clinicians are quacks?
The French doctor pushing this was barred from publishing in some major journals for fraudulent research, and in this study he removed patients that didn't fit his model, he manipulated data, refused to share raw data, and many other issues. https://forbetterscience.com/2020/03/26/chloroquine-genius-didier-raoult-to-save-the-world-from-covid-19/
And speaking of quacks ...https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article242210931.html?The board chairman of Gaston County’s largest health care system has shared political coronavirus posts on social media including one calling stay-at-home orders “tyranny” and another speculating whether the pandemic was caused by “a secret Chinese bio-warfare weapon.”The posts from Donnie Loftis, chairman of CaroMont Health’s board and former Gaston County commissioners chairman, came after Gaston — and many others in the state — adopted local restrictions on businesses and public activity. Gov. Roy Cooper issued a statewide stay-at-home order on March 27 that is scheduled to last through May 8, and North Carolina has closed all public schools through the end of the school year. This story is a subscriber exclusiveCaroMont Health restricted visitors to its facilities, and urged the public to stay home and practice social distancing efforts. In a statement on the hospital’s website on April 15, officials said PPE for health care workers was in short supply — “That’s why it is absolutely imperative people who can stay home, stay home.”Three days later, Loftis shared on his Facebook page a picture that reads: “Quarantine is when you restrict the movement of sick people. Tyranny is when you restrict the movement of healthy people.”Yep, you gotta love it when the folks in charge of "science" go off the rails.
A pretty grim view in today's NYTimes about how long it really takes to produce a totally new vaccine. How Long Will a Vaccine Really Take?https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/30/opinion/coronavirus-covid-vaccine.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage&action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=HomepageSome interesting numbers: The varicella (chickenpox) and FluMist vaccines took 28 years to produce; the HPV and rotavirus vaccines took 15. The article describes the usual timelines and what it might take to shorten them. It also allows you to click buttons to see how certain "shortcuts" would accelerate the process. I would love to see something in the next year or two, but this demonstrates the kind of odds we are up against....
Fauci said today there should be one available with millions of doses by the end of the year.
I will believe it when I see it, but given who is boss is, I am skeptical. Boss man said we would have plenty of tests available by now, and we’re still waiting....
Haha, ok. You want to place a wager on the over under of a vaccine being available by 12/31/20?
Read my edited response above. You didn’t even represent his comments correctly.
So how bout a wager?
He didn’t use the “realm of possibility” comment, that was Savannah Guthrie. He said it’s doable. And I don’t think the caveat about the right things falling into place is a hedge, as much as he’s not one to talk in absolutes when many things are in flux. I think that’s a very encouraging stance from him
Betting on a rona vaccine is a bit...much, aina?
It is awful, Ziggy - but not as bad as the guys who wanted to bet the “over” on total deaths estimated by August on the U of Washington website.
Were there odds on the site or a place to make a wager?Or were they using the informal version of bet, meaning that they "think" it is true?