Oso planning to go pro
so... do we want to talk about michael sam or no?
What's to talk about?
just curious about poster's opinions on how it affects his draft chances, etc. Vincent Jackson doesn't want to play with him...http://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/super-page/usf-recruit-tweets-he-cant-play-with-a-dude-who-wants-whats-in-his-pants/Does anyone want him on their team?
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/02/09/michael-sam-monday-morning-quarterback/“We talked about it this week,” the GM said. “First of all, we don’t think he’s a very good player. The reality is he’s an overrated football player in our estimation. Second: He’s going to have expectations about where he should be drafted, and I think he’ll be disappointed. He’s not going to get drafted where he thinks he should. The question you will ask yourself, knowing your team, is, ‘How will drafting him affect your locker room?’ And I am sorry to say where we are at this point in time, I think it’s going to affect most locker rooms. A lot of guys will be uncomfortable. Ten years from now, fine. But today, I think being openly gay is a factor in the locker room.”http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20140209/michael-sam-draft-stock/"I don't think football is ready for [an openly gay player] just yet," said an NFL player personnel assistant. "In the coming decade or two, it's going to be acceptable, but at this point in time it's still a man's-man game. To call somebody a [gay slur] is still so commonplace. It'd chemically imbalance an NFL locker room and meeting room."All the NFL personnel members interviewed believed that Sam's announcement will cause him to drop in the draft. He was projected between the third and seventh rounds prior to the announcement. The question is: How far will he fall?"I just know with this going on this is going to drop him down," said a veteran NFL scout. "There's no question about it. It's human nature. Do you want to be the team to quote-unquote 'break that barrier?'"
I know this is naive but why would people be uncomfortable playing next to someone who is openly gay? It's not like he's going to make a move on anyone on his team. If he did he'd get his ass kicked by 54 guys and be out of a job in the NFL for the rest of his life. Are people uncomfortable around unattractive females? No. It's sad that this still has to be newsworthy.
So you're in favor of making the showers in gyms unisex? Cool!If not, why not?!?!
It isn't newsworthy. If Aaron Rodgers, Ray Lewis is his day, or Reggie White in his day were openly gay, their teammates wouldn't give a rats ass. When its a mediocre talent like this guy, or the NBa player who's name escapes me, you can manufacture something to talk about. If you're good, there's going to be a place for you in the league.
When you're naming 3 hall of fame players and pointing out they would be playing somewhere if they were openly gay, I think that's a little unfair. How would their careers have altered had they come out before they were drafted? I bet it would have been slightly different.
I think the Bears should go best defensive player available for the first 4 rounds. I'd prefer a safety in the first.
Never been in an NFL locker room, but I'd have to assume there's enough money to separate showers with dividers. What's the difference if someone who is gay sees you showering vs. someone who is straight seeing you shower? Again, the guy isn't going to make a move on you unless he wants to be beat to a pulp.
F.U. and "affecting" your locker room. Just go play football.F.U. and your "man's man game." This kid --not a man's man, apparently - would kick your sad "player personnel assistant" ass. [What does that title even mean?]F.U. and using "human nature" as an excuse. Neanderthal nature maybe.You don't have to like it boys, but this train done left the station; now maybe the other 10, 20 or 50 current NFL gay players will join him (not likely for a while, I'm afraid). Then at least all the haters will know from whom to stay away.Pathetic. And predictable. And the answer to the rhetorical question at the end of the quote is yes.
Ironic you mention Rodgers.
That took longer than I expected.