Scholarship table
We are only a step away from players simply being direct-paid employees of the schools and not being students at all. Has been that way at some schools for quite a while, but now it will likely become standard operating procedure. Schools just recruit and hire players who do not even enroll in classes. It may sound silly but it will happen in the near future.
That's a Marquette thing. Not a very common practice. Most offer discounted tuition.
Again, lots of students are already employees of schools. You can also still be a student. It is not mutually exclusive. Have you ever heard of a TA?
Lots of students are on universities' direct payrolls. Kids who get full ride academic scholarships often get stipends or work study jobs that come with income. I'm not sure why athletes can't have the same benefits many regular students are entitled to?In grad school I got a full tuition scholarship that came with a $20k a year stipend. Why can't athletes, who bring in millions for the university, get the same opportunity?
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
My daughter was accepted to every 4 year school she applied to. Like some students she was not sure what she wanted to do or major in. So she decided to go to our local community college for 2 years which at the time cost us 3000, not the 10k for the state school or 16k for the private schools she was accepted at. We paid only 2 years of full tuition for her BA/BS degree. As it turned out an an adjunct professor at the community college helped my daughter find a job right after graduation working for the same company she was working at. You don't have to pay through the nose for a good/quality education.
Anecdotal but I got a job offer from Tulane and they offered it as well, after you had worked there for 5 years (I turned down the job).
I think it is way more common than TAMU realizes. Honestly it usually benefits the school. People will work for less than the going rate to have access to the educational benefits, they usually still pay for room and board, and the marginal cost of adding them to a classroom and accessing other tuition-backed services is pretty small.
Probably more linked to smaller schools? I know I had the opportunity when looking at colleges (because my mother worked at the local university), but chose to spend the big bucks on MU anyway.https://cic.edu/networks/tuition-exchange-program/
A tuition exchange is a little different, but it's a similar concept. Exchange programs may be limited to a certain type or number of students (depending on the school).
Right, I guess my point in that, was that I had an opportunity to free tuition at her university for sure, and potentially at a bunch of others too. Supporting your more widespread "free tuition" claim, and not just limited to Marquette or small number of schools.
Gotcha. I have worked at five institutions (3 private, 2 public), only one of which did not offer dependents either free or heavily discounted tuition. And that one was only because it was prevented from doing so by state law.
Make the football and men's basketball players employees. Those players should unionize. Institute a salary cap. All other sports should become club sports. That gets title 9 out of the equation.
Title IX applies to club sports
Oh and there are sport minimum requirements to be an NCAA D1 institution. And not only that, but my guess is that Marquette actually makes money on many non-revenue sports. For instance, men's golf is limited to 4.5 athletic scholarships. There are 11 people on the roster. So that means 6.5 are paying some sort of tuition when you account for academic scholarships too. I doubt the cost of running a golf team is all that much, so they are likely making some profit there.
Chili threw slop at the SAGA wagon train line decades ago.
You're wrong. First you need to apply the per student overhead cost to those students. Whatever margin is left over is easily wiped out by coaching salaries, equipment, travel, and course fees. There's a 0.00% chance Marquette or any other university is making money on D1 golf.
I'd take that bet. 6.5 are paying, 4.5 are part of the expense, so that leaves a net of 2. Say at 50K a year, that means MU made 100K. There's a lot more than 100K in expenses for the golf team.Here's a blurb about the Top teams: All lost moneyinancial data is available on all ten programs, except for Pepperdine. The highest revenue program was Oklahoma State at $566,536. The lowest revenue program was Arkansas at $46,205. The program with the highest expenses was Oklahoma State at $1,833,820. The program with the lowest expenses was North Carolina at $653,757. All programs lost money - Oklahoma State lost the most at $1,267,200.
OK...I will lose that bet. Thanks for the information.But now let's do track and field. There are 86 athletes on the men's and women's roster. 86 x $35,000 = $3,010,000. 30.6 scholarships x $35,000 = $1,071,000. That's a different of nearly $2 million. And even though that's a three season sport if you include cross country, there is no way that the costs exceed $2 million.
You're talking about gross margin. Apply the overhead costs of the university on a per student basis and they're for sure operating at a loss. The university isn't making 100% profit from a non athlete paying full tuition. That is where your logic is failing.
OK...I will lose that bet. Thanks for the information, although I am skeptical that Marquette is spending close to that amount.But now let's do track and field. There are 86 athletes on the men's and women's roster. 86 x $35,000 = $3,010,000. 30.6 scholarships x $35,000 = $1,071,000. That's a different of nearly $2 million. And even though that's a three season sport if you include cross country, there is no way that the costs exceed $2 million.
If that's how you want to view it, then you can be right. Congrats.
I'm not exactly sure what this means relative to my comment, but yes, your daughter seems to have made a sound choice.
Ok. You can view it where all university employees and any other operating expenses are free and then you can be right.