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Title: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: jsglow on February 05, 2016, 03:33:00 PM
MU just announced that O'Donnell will be closed at the end of the school year.  Surprising really as there is a shortage of underclassmen beds at the moment evidenced by the flipflop in designated roles for McCabe and Humphrey.  Recall that just last fall MU cleared the old Children's Hospital building.  That's a big potential footprint between 17th and 19th.  No plans to demolish OD announced.  On the contrary, public comment is that engineering staff will remain during 'evaluation period' next year.  But I gotta believe something is in the works and pretty far along.  Discuss.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: jficke13 on February 05, 2016, 03:46:24 PM
Well they couldn't probably get a new structure up in time for fall semester so it would have to use existing buildings, no?
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Galway Eagle on February 05, 2016, 03:47:16 PM
MU just announced that O'Donnell will be closed at the end of the school year.  Surprising really as there is a shortage of underclassmen beds at the moment evidenced by the flipflop in designated roles for McCabe and Humphrey.  Recall that just last fall MU cleared the old Children's Hospital building.  That's a big potential footprint between 17th and 19th.  No plans to demolish OD announced.  On the contrary, public comment is that engineering staff will remain during 'evaluation period' next year.  But I gotta believe something is in the works and pretty far along.  Discuss.

Not a chance they close OD before McCormick. They're probably just going to update it, loads of wasted space in that building that could make it better. 
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Archies Bat on February 05, 2016, 03:47:26 PM
I'm sure many folks have good memories.  It was a girls dorm in my era, so I have relatively few memories.  However, I don't remember anything remarkable about the architecture, and it isn't visible from campus.  If MU has a good short term plan for where to house students, and good long term plan for campus improvement, I support it.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 05, 2016, 03:51:24 PM
Not a chance they close OD before McCormick. They're probably just going to update it, loads of wasted space in that building that could make it better.

There's zero infrastructure to justify closing mccormick now. You can't get rid of a dorm that houses 700 before building something else first.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Galway Eagle on February 05, 2016, 03:54:57 PM
There's zero infrastructure to justify closing mccormick now. You can't get rid of a dorm that houses 700 before building something else first.

I agree but there's pretty much zero infrastructure to justify closing any dorm when we've been converting common areas into dorm rooms these past few years. 
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: tower912 on February 05, 2016, 04:01:32 PM
I'm sure many folks have good memories.


You could say that.    FWIW, MU leased floors in a fleabag motel around 23rd and Wisconsin during the autumn of 1987.    IIRC, Dahmer made one of his first kills on the upper floors while MU was leasing 3 of the lower floors.   
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Archies Bat on February 05, 2016, 04:06:56 PM
You could say that.    FWIW, MU leased floors in a fleabag motel around 23rd and Wisconsin during the autumn of 1987.    IIRC, Dahmer made one of his first kills on the upper floors while MU was leasing 3 of the lower floors.

In the early 80's, what is now Straz was the YMCA, and MU had a few floors.  Everybody said it was a major dump.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: tower912 on February 05, 2016, 04:08:46 PM
Indeed.   MU leased a few floors, a few floors were a glorified flop house.   However, the students who lived there got access to all of the athletic facilities at the Y. 
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 05, 2016, 04:09:38 PM
In the early 80's, what is now Straz was the YMCA, and MU had a few floors.  Everybody said it was a major dump.

Straz is arguably the best dorm now a days. I lived there sophomore year in 12-13. Basketball courts, weight room and swimming pool in the dorm. Best dorm food and spacious rooms.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: MUfan12 on February 05, 2016, 04:12:47 PM
So between the greenspace directly to the north of OD, the building itself, and the space cleared at the Humphrey complex, there's a lot of room to build.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: MU82 on February 05, 2016, 04:15:12 PM
Straz is arguably the best dorm now a days. I lived there sophomore year in 12-13. Basketball courts, weight room and swimming pool in the dorm. Best dorm food and spacious rooms.

In a different thread where many of us 1970s and 1980s students reminisced about the MU drinking scene and insisted it was the best era to be a student.

Well, for legal drinking, obviously. But the food is so much better now and the campus so much nicer.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: jsglow on February 05, 2016, 04:22:58 PM
Okay, total left field here.  Understand that I have NO information.  Fan12 has it correct.  the Wells footprint from 17th to 19th is HUGE.  While they must be 'keeping their options open', MU does need the bed space.  Recall the McCabe/Humphrey flip this year for the sole purpose of creating underclassmen beds. I'd argue OD is solidly below McCormick on the pecking order and has 30% the beds.  Absolutely correct that nothing could be built for '16-'17.  But it could be for the following year.  Perhaps they see a window.  Perhaps use Ramada in a pinch?  Build 900-1000 beds opening in '17 or '18 and then demolish McCormick.

Somebody quote me if I get this right.  Remember, I truly have no inside info.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: MUfan12 on February 05, 2016, 04:26:52 PM
Okay, total left field here.  Understand that I have NO information.  Fan12 has it correct.  the Wells footprint from 17th to 19th is HUGE.  While they must be 'keeping their options open', MU does need the bed space.  Recall the McCabe/Humphrey flip this year for the sole purpose of creating underclassmen beds. I'd argue OD is solidly below McCormick on the pecking order and has 30% the beds.  Absolutely correct that nothing could be built for '16-'17.  But it could be for the following year.  Perhaps they see a window.  Perhaps use Ramada in a pinch?  Build 900-1000 beds opening in '17 or '18 and then demolish McCormick.

Somebody quote me if I get this right.  Remember, I truly have no inside info.

That's similar to what I was thinking. If they build a couple of dorms on those sites, you have a concentration of student housing from Humphrey through Mashuda. Also frees up 16th and Wisconsin to be something other than housing, if they were to build there.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: jsglow on February 05, 2016, 04:31:10 PM
That's similar to what I was thinking. If they build a couple of dorms on those sites, you have a concentration of student housing from Humphrey through Mashuda. Also frees up 16th and Wisconsin to be something other than housing, if they were to build there.

I'd expect that space to remain open unless it's a public space, maybe a modest chapel replacing the chapel in the AMU.  Way down the road.

Edit.  As I think about it more.  A site for the Union that replaces AMU circa 2025-30.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: MUfan12 on February 05, 2016, 04:34:33 PM
Just to illustrate how big that footprint could be if they knocked down OD.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Archies Bat on February 05, 2016, 04:47:11 PM
Just to illustrate how big that footprint could be if they knocked down OD.

Big enough for a football stadium.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on February 05, 2016, 05:05:42 PM
I'm sure many folks have good memories.  It was a girls dorm in my era, so I have relatively few memories.  However, I don't remember anything remarkable about the architecture, and it isn't visible from campus.  If MU has a good short term plan for where to house students, and good long term plan for campus improvement, I support it.

Guy's dorm when I was there, 98% of my best friends lived in O'D, sad if true
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 05, 2016, 05:11:10 PM
Maybe once they knock OD down, they'll find all da virginity that was lost der, hey?
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: warriorchick on February 05, 2016, 05:26:26 PM
You could say that.    FWIW, MU leased floors in a fleabag motel around 23rd and Wisconsin during the autumn of 1987.    IIRC, Dahmer made one of his first kills on the upper floors while MU was leasing 3 of the lower floors.

I  don't know if you have all your facts correct, but the flea bag hotel that Dahmer killed one of his first victims is now the rather ritzy Ambassador Hotel. I wonder if you are thinking of the place across the street, which is now the Ambassador Inn (owed by the same folks). Can't remember its former name at the moment,  but MU rented rooms there when I was a GDL for overflow freshmen.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: jsglow on February 05, 2016, 05:49:57 PM
MU recently 'disassembled' the TV lounges that had been converted to rooms to accommodate particularly large Frosh classes in '12 and '13.  The most recent class was down over 100 (little bit disturbing, I know).  They may have a sense that they can 'get by' this year without the OD's 296 beds.  I really think it's in the works for '17(ish).
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: tower912 on February 05, 2016, 05:50:45 PM
I  don't know if you have all your facts correct, but the flea bag hotel that Dahmer killed one of his first victims is now the rather ritzy Ambassador Hotel. I wonder if you are thinking of the place across the street, which is now the Ambassador Inn (owed by the same folks). Can't remember its former name at the moment,  but MU rented rooms there when I was a GDL for overflow freshmen.

I'm going to go with Ambassador Inn (North side of Wisconsin Ave) and perhaps it is just an urban legend about Dahmer.
OK the killing was at the Ambassador Motel.    Autumn of 87.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer

Scroll down.    My memory makes it a flea bag. 
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Eldon on February 05, 2016, 05:54:06 PM
So I guess this is the late-afternoon Friday bad news
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: jsglow on February 05, 2016, 06:04:54 PM
I'm going to go with Ambassador Inn (North side of Wisconsin Ave) and perhaps it is just an urban legend about Dahmer.
OK the killing was at the Ambassador Motel.    Autumn of 87.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer

Scroll down.    My memory makes it a flea bag.

Tower, it's a stunning art deco grand hotel these days owned by Marquette alumni and a real credit to the Avenues West neighborhood.  If anything every brings you back to campus for an overnight, I'd recommend it highly.  Let's leave 30 years ago in the past, okay.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: tower912 on February 05, 2016, 06:08:10 PM
I will check it out when I am in town.   
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: keefe on February 05, 2016, 06:43:05 PM
  It was a girls dorm in my era, so I have relatively few memories.

All girls back in the day and chock full of zesty, robust memories...
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 05, 2016, 06:52:45 PM
I  don't know if you have all your facts correct, but the flea bag hotel that Dahmer killed one of his first victims is now the rather ritzy Ambassador Hotel. I wonder if you are thinking of the place across the street, which is now the Ambassador Inn (owed by the same folks). Can't remember its former name at the moment,  but MU rented rooms there when I was a GDL for overflow freshmen.

back in about 1979-80, i lived on the 1st floor, corner of the apartment bldg(2311 w. wisconsin ave) next to that hotel across from the original ambassador inn.  it was called the phoenix inn(2301 w. wisconsin ave.).  what a treat!  business was good...for rooms by the minute.  we used to watch the janes and johns come and go from our porch sipping cutty sark.  perfect set-up as it had parking underneath at street level for drive-thru access
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: keefe on February 05, 2016, 07:52:19 PM
back in about 1979-80, i lived on the 1st floor, corner of the apartment bldg(2311 w. wisconsin ave) next to that hotel across from the original ambassador inn.  it was called the phoenix inn(2301 w. wisconsin ave.).  what a treat!  business was good...for rooms by the minute.  we used to watch the janes and johns come and go from our porch sipping cutty sark.  perfect set-up as it had parking underneath at street level for drive-thru access

Wasn't there an Elks or Moose Club in there too?

We used to go to there on Tuesday nights when they had BINGO. The Club put out a big spread of food that we would graze through before wandering a block over to The Midget to begin drinking in earnest
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 05, 2016, 08:05:04 PM
Wasn't there an Elks or Moose Club in there too?

We used to go to there on Tuesday nights when they had BINGO. The Club put out a big spread of food that we would graze through before wandering a block over to The Midget to begin drinking in earnest

yeah...wasn't that located off the back of the eagles club/rave?  car wash on the other side of us and an open pantry(aka-open panties) for all our grocery shopping-tombstone pizzas and beer
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: warriorchick on February 05, 2016, 08:31:50 PM
I will check it out when I am in town.

It's very, very nice.  We stay there all the time. We already have reservations for Graduation Weekend this year.

(http://www.ambassadormilwaukee.com/d/ambassadormilwaukee/media/Lobby_Photography/Ambassador_Hotel_Lobby.jpg)

(http://www.ambassadormilwaukee.com/d/ambassadormilwaukee/media/Accommodations/King_6.jpg)

(http://www.ambassadormilwaukee.com/d/ambassadormilwaukee/media/Envoy/Envoy_Lounge_14.JPG)

(http://www.ambassadormilwaukee.com/d/ambassadormilwaukee/media/Envoy/Envoy_Dining_-_Low_Res_29dfba7.JPG)
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on February 05, 2016, 09:21:06 PM
Any place that serves the bubbly in Chianti glasses is beneath me.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on February 05, 2016, 09:26:12 PM
yeah...wasn't that located off the back of the eagles club/rave?  car wash on the other side of us and an open pantry(aka-open panties) for all our grocery shopping-tombstone pizzas and beer

The Eagles Club was home of the Fraternal Order of the Eagles housed in that building.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 05, 2016, 10:39:49 PM
All girls back in the day and chock full of zesty, robust memories...

Ding ding ding.  Same memories for me
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 06, 2016, 12:12:59 AM
All girls back in the day and chock full of zesty, robust memories...

So robust Is your codename for ladies of the larger variety, right Keefe?
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: keefe on February 06, 2016, 12:34:47 AM
yeah...wasn't that located off the back of the eagles club/rave?  car wash on the other side of us and an open pantry(aka-open panties) for all our grocery shopping-tombstone pizzas and beer

That's it. It was the Eagles Club. Before the movie Wedding Crashers we got the idea of putting on a suit and mixing in with the wedding banquet crowds as if we belonged. 8 to 10 of us would throw on suits and march up from McCormick for an evening of free food and drink and the eternal quest for...companionship.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: keefe on February 06, 2016, 12:47:20 AM
Any place that serves the bubbly in Chianti glasses is beneath me.

Diamond shapes expand the surface evaporation area which is great for strong big reds but destroy the texture of champagne. The idea of champagne is for the bubbles to dance across your palate and not fizzle out in the glass.

Two thumbs down to the Ambassador.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8480/8170766039_5956122133_b.jpg)
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Hards Alumni on February 06, 2016, 10:36:42 AM
Just to illustrate how big that footprint could be if they knocked down OD.

Whoa!  Greenspace!  It was a 'basketball' court when I was there.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: jsglow on February 06, 2016, 10:48:04 AM
Speaking of basketball courts......

Back in the 60's and maybe into the 70's there was a small court/hoop on the north side of Carpenter Tower.  Some or all of the players lived in Tower in those days and would occasionally shoot hoops out there.  My dad worked directly across the street on 11th for nearly 40 years.  More than once he and some colleagues would go shoot 'horse' with the guys at lunch to get a little air.  I guess they needed a break from the 5 cent Sheepshead game that ran continuously for decades in his office.  Better times boys.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: keefe on February 06, 2016, 12:02:41 PM
Sheepshead game

Sheepshead. Marry into a Milwaukee German family and you have no choice but to learn the game. Blitz, schmaltz, crack, recrack, mauer, schmeer, schneider...
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: mu-rara on February 06, 2016, 01:04:19 PM
Sheepshead. Marry into a Milwaukee German family and you have no choice but to learn the game. Blitz, schmaltz, crack, recrack, mauer, schmeer, schneider...
But what have you done to grow the great game in the PNW?
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: jsglow on February 06, 2016, 01:35:50 PM
Sheepshead. Marry into a Milwaukee German family and you have no choice but to learn the game. Blitz, schmaltz, crack, recrack, mauer, schmeer, schneider...

For many, many years my dad was the senior member of the card club meaning that he controlled the game.  They played 7 handed among a group of 10-15 guys and gals, Senior VP to secretary, literally every day at lunch for nearly 50 years.  My dad steadfastly refused to adjust the historic 5 cent, 10 cent, 15 cent pot that was in place when he assumed the senior mantle.  His view was that it was about bragging rights at the end of the week, not money at all.  "Up a buck and a half, brother!"  Seeing as he was both boss and senior member, everyone gladly acquiesced.  At his retirement party in 1995, his long time friend and colleague said the game was going to the princely sum of .10/.15/.20 on Monday. 

Maybe corporate America would be better today if senior executives brought their lunch in a bag and allowed secretaries to trash talk them after a 'no-tricker' like my dad did. 
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Archies Bat on February 06, 2016, 02:20:44 PM
I just hope the board doesn't start arguing whether the jack of diamonds or calling an ace is the better way to pick a partner in 5 handed.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: mu-rara on February 06, 2016, 04:43:12 PM
I just hope the board doesn't start arguing whether the jack of diamonds or calling an ace is the better way to pick a partner in 5 handed.
I had to play both.

West Bend roommates were call an ace.  My hometown and surrounding area are jack of diamonds.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: keefe on February 07, 2016, 12:35:38 AM
For many, many years my dad was the senior member of the card club meaning that he controlled the game.  They played 7 handed among a group of 10-15 guys and gals, Senior VP to secretary, literally every day at lunch for nearly 50 years.  My dad steadfastly refused to adjust the historic 5 cent, 10 cent, 15 cent pot that was in place when he assumed the senior mantle.  His view was that it was about bragging rights at the end of the week, not money at all.  "Up a buck and a half, brother!"  Seeing as he was both boss and senior member, everyone gladly acquiesced.  At his retirement party in 1995, his long time friend and colleague said the game was going to the princely sum of .10/.15/.20 on Monday. 

Maybe corporate America would be better today if senior executives brought their lunch in a bag and allowed secretaries to trash talk them after a 'no-tricker' like my dad did.

I love stories like that. Something to be said for community and tradition.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on February 07, 2016, 07:49:41 AM
I just hope the board doesn't start arguing whether the jack of diamonds or calling an ace is the better way to pick a partner in 5 handed.

jack of diamonds? never!
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Jay Bee on February 07, 2016, 08:30:08 AM
Dahmer certainly did kill at the Ambassador. The hotel was total crap for a long time.. they put in $~15MM IIRC into it in recent times... post-2000... but, in the mid-90's it was a dump... went to the bar there occasionally, but only the cheapest of parents would stay there during the visit.

Today, it's a completely different looking place.

---------------
East Hall (now Straz) before all the renovations was fine. The Rec Plex / old Y was great to have, as well as Bob & Earl's barbershop... haven't seen the rooms/layout since the renovations... back in the day, the floors alternated.. girl/boy/girl/boy.. Lord forgive me for the things I did in that building.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Litehouse on February 08, 2016, 09:30:50 AM
East Hall (now Straz) before all the renovations was fine. The Rec Plex / old Y was great to have, as well as Bob & Earl's barbershop... haven't seen the rooms/layout since the renovations... back in the day, the floors alternated.. girl/boy/girl/boy.. Lord forgive me for the things I did in that building.

Agreed, I was at East Hall 92-93 and thought it was fantastic.  All single rooms, half of them with your own private bathroom.  The Y had constant pick-up games against local ballers that were way better than the Rec Center games against the usual college stiffs.  Blocks from the Grand Ave mall when it was still decent.  Only drawback was the long walk home from house parties on Kilbourn.

Around the same time, Marquette used the old Holiday Inn at 27th & Wisconsin as "West Hall".  Those people were out on an island, with the only benefit being the VFW next door that served underagers.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: StillAWarrior on February 08, 2016, 09:41:25 AM
Agreed, I was at East Hall 92-93 and thought it was fantastic.  All single rooms, half of them with your own private bathroom.  The Y had constant pick-up games against local ballers that were way better than the Rec Center games against the usual college stiffs.  Blocks from the Grand Ave mall when it was still decent.  Only drawback was the long walk home from house parties on Kilbourn.

Around the same time, Marquette used the old Holiday Inn at 27th & Wisconsin as "West Hall".  Those people were out on an island, with the only benefit being the VFW next door that served underagers.

I lived at West my sophomore year, and it was probably my favorite dorm experience at Marquette.  It was a great group and we had a lot of fun.  Sure, sometimes it sucked being 10+ blocks from campus, but overall it was awesome.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: mu_hilltopper on February 08, 2016, 10:04:33 AM
I lived at West my sophomore year, and it was probably my favorite dorm experience at Marquette.  It was a great group and we had a lot of fun.  Sure, sometimes it sucked being 10+ blocks from campus, but overall it was awesome.

Same here.  Great dorm .. pretty solid facility, food area, ballroom, etc.  McDonald's was a 45 second walk .. And the hookers across the street, that was always good entertainment, cough, cough.

You got used to taking the shuttle bus and just timed your departures around it.  We walked less than anyone living off campus, as the shuttle would drop you off from 16th down to 10th or so. 

And if the bus driver was in a good mood, he'd drive you to Grand Avenue if you asked him to go a few blocks more.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: warriorchick on February 08, 2016, 10:45:17 AM
Same here.  Great dorm .. pretty solid facility, food area, ballroom, etc.  McDonald's was a 45 second walk .. And the hookers across the street, that was always good entertainment, cough, cough.

You got used to taking the shuttle bus and just timed your departures around it.  We walked less than anyone living off campus, as the shuttle would drop you off from 16th down to 10th or so. 

And if the bus driver was in a good mood, he'd drive you to Grand Avenue if you asked him to go a few blocks more.

My senior year, a girl got raped in her own room by some rando on Move-In Day.  That was probably the beginning of the end for West.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Litehouse on February 08, 2016, 11:01:50 AM
West went until at least '93, they kept it open until the renovations at Schroeder were finished.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: keefe on February 08, 2016, 11:41:08 AM
the renovations at Schroeder were finished.

Is this when they painted over the album artwork on 10?

On a par with Nazi book burnings, frankly
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on February 08, 2016, 12:06:19 PM
You could say that.    FWIW, MU leased floors in a fleabag motel around 23rd and Wisconsin during the autumn of 1987.    IIRC, Dahmer made one of his first kills on the upper floors while MU was leasing 3 of the lower floors.

O'Donnell was where the Freshman chicks lived my Freshman year at McCormick.

I remember the temporary dorm up on 26th Street & Wisconsin Ave.  It had the name of West Hall.   I knew a guy who had to live there.  ("I am Everett from Vest."  Could not pronounce the W.) 
I think it was a former Holiday Inn and there was a VFW on the first floor of the building where students found a way to go and drink on occasion.   
Marquette eventually sold to some group who planned to open like a Mediation School.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: LloydsLegs on February 08, 2016, 03:39:09 PM
In the early 80's, what is now Straz was the YMCA, and MU had a few floors. Everybody said it was a major dump.

It was, in the same way most every MU dorm room is/was a dump (except maybe the West in the mid 80s). 

But it's our dump so you better not say anything bad about it.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: LloydsLegs on February 08, 2016, 03:40:57 PM
O'Donnell was where the Freshman chicks lived my Freshman year at McCormick.

I remember the temporary dorm up on 26th Street & Wisconsin Ave.  It had the name of West Hall.   I knew a guy who had to live there.  ("I am Everett from Vest."  Could not pronounce the W.) 
I think it was a former Holiday Inn and there was a VFW on the first floor of the building where students found a way to go and drink on occasion.   
Marquette eventually sold to some group who planned to open like a Mediation School.

Yep- best thing about the West were the quads (huge rooms for 4).  Made the trek down WI ave many a night for great parties "at the quad."
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: keefe on February 08, 2016, 06:01:49 PM
It was, in the same way most every MU dorm room is/was a dump (except maybe the West in the mid 80s). 

But it's our dump so you better not say anything bad about it.

McCormick Hall on a Sunday morning was like a Roman vomitorium.

What always killed me was the weak-bellied punks who would puke in the drinking fountains (bubblers for the WI types.) And taking the stairs there was always running a maze of trash, empties, and hurl.

I understood that some guys were just sprouting their drinking wings but why they had to share the previous night's stew of SAGA mystery meat, PBR, and Real Chili with everyone was a mystery to me. For Christ's sake the sh1tters were just 10 feet away from where the spewed their guts out in the hallway.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Jay Bee on February 08, 2016, 07:45:57 PM
West went until at least '93, they kept it open until the renovations at Schroeder were finished.

Yep.. I think '92-93 was the last year of West.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: WarriorFan on February 08, 2016, 09:58:39 PM
McCormick Hall on a Sunday morning was like a Roman vomitorium.

What always killed me was the weak-bellied punks who would puke in the drinking fountains (bubblers for the WI types.) And taking the stairs there was always running a maze of trash, empties, and hurl.

I understood that some guys were just sprouting their drinking wings but why they had to share the previous night's stew of SAGA mystery meat, PBR, and Real Chili with everyone was a mystery to me. For Christ's sake the sh1tters were just 10 feet away from where the spewed their guts out in the hallway.
From what I remember in late 80's in McCormick the sh1tters on my floor were usually out of commission by about noon on Saturday, so Saturday night's side effects usually ended up just about anywhere else.  Had to go to Helfaer, across the street to Engineering, or up to a "study floor" to find a functioning toilet.  As for O'Donnell, I always thought it was about 10x nicer than McCormick. 
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 08, 2016, 10:37:50 PM
From what I remember in late 80's in McCormick the sh1tters on my floor were usually out of commission by about noon on Saturday, so Saturday night's side effects usually ended up just about anywhere else.  Had to go to Helfaer, across the street to Engineering, or up to a "study floor" to find a functioning toilet.  As for O'Donnell, I always thought it was about 10x nicer than McCormick.

I don't know about better, but I also don't think anyone claims McCormick to be a 5 star hotel either. The only reason they have to keep it around is because it holds over a third of the freshman class.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 08, 2016, 11:10:00 PM
OD is only going to be closed for one year. They're not tearing it down, they're keeping it livable even though nobody will be living there.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: keefe on February 09, 2016, 12:50:41 AM
OD is only going to be closed for one year. They're not tearing it down, they're keeping it livable even though nobody will be living there.

Are they replacing the mattresses? There must be three generations of student DNA teeming in those things...

Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 09, 2016, 01:09:39 AM
Are they replacing the mattresses? There must be three generations of student DNA teeming in those things...

They changed all the furniture in all the dorms for my freshman year in fall of 2011. That included putting drywall over all the closets in McCormick an just using wardrobes instead.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: keefe on February 09, 2016, 02:47:43 AM
From what I remember in late 80's in McCormick the sh1tters on my floor were usually out of commission by about noon on Saturday, so Saturday night's side effects usually ended up just about anywhere else.  Had to go to Helfaer, across the street to Engineering, or up to a "study floor" to find a functioning toilet.  As for O'Donnell, I always thought it was about 10x nicer than McCormick.

I remember we used to scrounge all of the toilet rolls from the McCormick sh1tters on our way to the Arena. (The smarter among us had a spare roll for morning after a game needs.)

The decline of Marquette basketball in the '80's was highly correlated with Marquette banning toilet roll tossing at games. I think that it was Houston who posted that he heaved one roll past midcourt. Impressive.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on February 09, 2016, 09:37:31 AM
Is West Hall the same building as Mashuda is today?
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: StillAWarrior on February 09, 2016, 09:46:18 AM
Is West Hall the same building as Mashuda is today?

No.  West was another five blocks West on Wisconsin.  It was at the corner of 25th and Wisconsin on the Southwest corner of the intersection.  I lived in West my sophomore year and Mashuda my junior year.  Mashuda was pretty good too.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Litehouse on February 09, 2016, 11:09:16 AM
Wasn't West Hall between 26th & 27th?  The Bureau of Milwaukee Child Welfare was built on the site after the building was torn down.  The SW corner of 25th & WI is that concrete Methodist church that was always there, and the US Bank is next door.

I was in Mashuda 93-94 and thought it was great, an old Howard Johnson, huge rooms with private bathrooms in each room.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: StillAWarrior on February 09, 2016, 11:14:18 AM
Wasn't West Hall between 26th & 27th?  I was in Mashuda 93-94 and thought it was great, an old Howard Johnson, huge rooms with private bathrooms in each room.

You are correct.  I took a quick look at the map, and picked the wrong block.

And I really liked Mashuda too.  The rooms that overlooked the Pabst Mansion were great with a bathroom and a walk-in closet.  I think they called them "parlor" rooms or something like that.  I vaguely remember that the closet had another sink/mirror in it, but I might be confusing it with something else.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: keefe on February 09, 2016, 12:43:16 PM
I think they called them "parlor" rooms

That has a very specific meaning in some parts of the world...
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Litehouse on February 09, 2016, 04:34:46 PM
And I really liked Mashuda too.  The rooms that overlooked the Pabst Mansion were great with a bathroom and a walk-in closet.  I think they called them "parlor" rooms or something like that.  I vaguely remember that the closet had another sink/mirror in it, but I might be confusing it with something else.
Yep, that whole wing that ran north/south were "parlor" rooms on both sides.  A little bigger than normal with the extra sink set-up in the closet.  The east/west wing had slightly smaller rooms without the extra sink.  I always heard stories of people sneaking into the old pool area that was locked off, but never made it there myself.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 09, 2016, 04:40:44 PM
Yep, that whole wing that ran north/south were "parlor" rooms on both sides.  A little bigger than normal with the extra sink set-up in the closet.  The east/west wing had slightly smaller rooms without the extra sink.  I always heard stories of people sneaking into the old pool area that was locked off, but never made it there myself.

Mashuda or Carpenter are the two sophomore dorms that get filled up last now a days.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: real chili 83 on February 09, 2016, 07:00:11 PM
Wasn't Mashuda a Holiday Inn?  They converted it when I was there if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: keefe on February 09, 2016, 07:10:44 PM
Mashuda or Carpenter are the two sophomore dorms that get filled up last now a days.

Back in the day a self-respecting sophomore demanded lodging at the Schroeder. That first taste of coed living, however tame, was the prize. Anyone who had to do the walk of shame at 2359 at McCormick knows of what I speak...
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 09, 2016, 07:27:29 PM
Wasn't Mashuda a Holiday Inn?  They converted it when I was there if I recall correctly.

yes.  what was the holiday inn/dorm on 26th or 27th street called?  that was like living in the boondocks, but one of the nicer dorms at the time-that was all it had going for itself...and it was coed.  chit, it better have been coed, campus was a long way to go to get some heyna, eh'na?
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Jables1604 on February 09, 2016, 07:30:32 PM
Anybody remember The Ambassador Hotel? I remember that as a freshman when my dad brought me out in the Fall of 1986 he stayed there for one or two night. Pretty sure he's still mortified at what he saw...and he came of age in the 60s. Someone told me that it's actually a respectable place now. That may be true but I prefer to remember for what it was back then.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Jables1604 on February 09, 2016, 07:31:32 PM
My bad. Just read the whole thread re: The Ambassador.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Jables1604 on February 09, 2016, 07:40:47 PM
This topic is great. Someone once told me that the Beatles stayed at Mashuda Hall when it was a hotel. A quick google search and bam...there it is.

They spent the night of September 4, 1964 in what is now Mashuda Hall. After playing to a sold out crowd at the Milwaukee Arena.

Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Jay Bee on February 09, 2016, 08:22:03 PM
One summer I was doing some janitorial work while taking classes... we got assigned to clean Mashuda after a parents' or prospective students weekend.. people had stayed at Mashuda... and to our amazement, lots of them left cans and bottles of beer. That day was tremendous. Left with about 40 cans/bottles of beer
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 10, 2016, 05:33:02 AM
One summer I was doing some janitorial work while taking classes... we got assigned to clean Mashuda after a parents' or prospective students weekend.. people had stayed at Mashuda... and to our amazement, lots of them left cans and bottles of beer. That day was tremendous. Left with about 40 cans/bottles of beer

i hope ya didn't pick up any stray "balloons" laying around
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on February 10, 2016, 07:09:05 AM
Back in the day a self-respecting sophomore demanded lodging at the Schroeder. That first taste of coed living, however tame, was the prize. Anyone who had to do the walk of shame at 2359 at McCormick knows of what I speak...

I concur with all of this statement.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Litehouse on February 10, 2016, 08:23:45 AM
yes.  what was the holiday inn/dorm on 26th or 27th street called?  that was like living in the boondocks, but one of the nicer dorms at the time-that was all it had going for itself...and it was coed.  chit, it better have been coed, campus was a long way to go to get some heyna, eh'na?

West Hall was a Holiday Inn
Mashuda Hall was a Howard Johnson
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: WI inferiority Complexes on February 10, 2016, 08:29:39 AM
West Hall was a Holiday Inn
Mashuda Hall was a Howard Johnson

I believe Mashuda was a Holiday Inn.

http://postmarq.tumblr.com/post/81637081407/mashuda-hall-holiday-inn
 (http://postmarq.tumblr.com/post/81637081407/mashuda-hall-holiday-inn)
I lived there sophomore year, and completely trashed our room.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 10, 2016, 09:00:39 AM
Raise yo keyboard if ya lost yo virginity on a twin bed in OD, hey?
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Litehouse on February 10, 2016, 09:11:29 AM
I believe Mashuda was a Holiday Inn.

http://postmarq.tumblr.com/post/81637081407/mashuda-hall-holiday-inn
 (http://postmarq.tumblr.com/post/81637081407/mashuda-hall-holiday-inn)
I lived there sophomore year, and completely trashed our room.
Wow, that's an awesome picture.  I lived there also and always heard it was a Howard Johnson, I stand corrected.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: Litehouse on February 10, 2016, 09:28:39 AM
This topic is great. Someone once told me that the Beatles stayed at Mashuda Hall when it was a hotel. A quick google search and bam...there it is.

They spent the night of September 4, 1964 in what is now Mashuda Hall. After playing to a sold out crowd at the Milwaukee Arena.
Looks like it was room 701 and the neighboring room.
http://www.wisn.com/entertainment/beatles-stayed-at-what-is-now-a-marquette-dorm-in-1964/21009554
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: keefe on February 10, 2016, 12:35:49 PM
Raise yo keyboard if ya lost yo virginity on a twin bed in OD, hey?

There are givers and takers in that equation, Doc...
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: keefe on February 10, 2016, 12:40:46 PM
Howard Johnson

My dad flew F 100s out of Otis AFB when my sister was born. While my mom was in the hospital for that blessed event my dad, who didn't know how to boil water, took me to the HoJos at the Barnstable Roundabout every night for dinner which was fried clam strips.
Title: Re: O'Donnell Closing
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 10, 2016, 12:56:40 PM
Raise yo keyboard if ya lost yo virginity on a twin bed in OD, hey?

3 on the tree, '69 pontiac tempest-looked like a goat muscle car though.  front seats weren't buckets back then-does that count?