MUScoop
MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: The Lens on June 19, 2012, 09:24:19 AM
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MJ just hired St John's Assoc Head Coach Mike Dunlap.
Dunlap certainly has had an interesting career trajectory since Rob Jeter beat him out for the UWM job.
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Not good enough for UWM but good enough for the Charlotte Bobcats!
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UWM needs to be "MILWAUKEE" or "WISCONSIN STATE" before they can become relevant. Unfortunately I don't see that happening.
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UWM needs to be "MILWAUKEE" or "WISCONSIN STATE" before they can become relevant. Unfortunately I don't see that happening.
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UWM needs to be "MILWAUKEE" or "WISCONSIN STATE" before they can become relevant. Unfortunately I don't see that happening.
Just putting a different wrapping on the same mediocre present.
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UWM needs to be "MILWAUKEE" or "WISCONSIN STATE" before they can become relevant. Unfortunately I don't see that happening.
They're already branding themselves as Milwaukee.
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They're already branding themselves as Milwaukee.
Yup...that was my thought. But just because they're selling themselves as Milwaukee doesn't mean anyone's buying. I think they're still perceived as a directional/hyphen school, despite having a student base of over 30,000. Still playing second fiddle in the city and at best third in the state.
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Not good enough for UWM but good enough for the Charlotte Bobcats!
I'm not sure who this reflects more poorly on.
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I'm not sure who this reflects more poorly on.
It reflects pretty poorly on Charlotte. Mainly because Dunlap is 55-years-old with 2 seasons of NBA assistant coaching experience and has never even been a D1 head coach. MJ turned down a HOF coach in Jerry Sloan and an up-and-comer in Brian Shaw, who won 3 rings and played/coached for/with Phil Jackson for 10 seasons. IMO, Shaw was a no-brainer for the job. I guess we shall see.
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Yup...that was my thought. But just because they're selling themselves as Milwaukee doesn't mean anyone's buying. I think they're still perceived as a directional/hyphen school, despite having a student base of over 30,000. Still playing second fiddle in the city and at best third in the state.
They don't have much of a residential presence and many students view them as an extension of high school. Commuter schools all over face the same exact issue. Branding themselves as "Wisconsin State" isn't going to change that.
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They don't have much of a residential presence and many students view them as an extension of high school. Commuter schools all over face the same exact issue. Branding themselves as "Wisconsin State" isn't going to change that.
To be fair, over the past 10 years, they have added quite a bit of student housing/dorms.
I think it's a good option for college, especially for kids from rural areas. Madison is great, but obviously has a very "Collegey" feel. The eastside has a lot of students, but UWM is more a part of the city rather than being the center point, like UW.
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To be fair, over the past 10 years, they have added quite a bit of student housing/dorms.
I think it's a good option for college, especially for kids from rural areas. Madison is great, but obviously has a very "Collegey" feel. The eastside has a lot of students, but UWM is more a part of the city rather than being the center point, like UW.
http://www4.uwm.edu/life/
Of their 30,000 students, only 4,000 live in the residence halls. 10,000 live in apartments near campus...
That just hinders the campus pride factor that is needed to develop a strong athletic program.
But you are right. It is a good school...much better than a generation ago.
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http://www4.uwm.edu/life/
Of their 30,000 students, only 4,000 live in the residence halls. 10,000 live in apartments near campus...
That just hinders the campus pride factor that is needed to develop a strong athletic program.
But you are right. It is a good school...much better than a generation ago.
I don't mean to imply that most students live on campus now, I'm just saying that in the past 10 years I can think of 2 or 3 good sized residences that went up on the eastside for UWM students.
I don't think they will ever have big time athletics, and that probably shouldn't be a goal. If kids are looking for a school with sports and school spirit, there is UW or Whitewater.
UWM has an awesome neighborhood, entertainment, transportation, etc. Those are tremendous strengths and I think they should play to those. Not everybody is looking for a "frat boy", "college-football tailgate" type of experience.
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They're already branding themselves as Milwaukee.
"Milwaukee University...the MU second to one" :D
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It reflects pretty poorly on Charlotte. Mainly because Dunlap is 55-years-old with 2 seasons of NBA assistant coaching experience and has never even been a D1 head coach. MJ turned down a HOF coach in Jerry Sloan and an up-and-comer in Brian Shaw, who won 3 rings and played/coached for/with Phil Jackson for 10 seasons. IMO, Shaw was a no-brainer for the job. I guess we shall see.
I have a feeling MJ turned down Jerry Sloan, Brian Shaw, and Patrick Ewing because he wants ultimate control on what's going on with the team (players, trades, etc). MJ is a control freak kinda guy, and now he has a pawn as his coach that he'll be able to manipulate.
Much like Pat Riley and Spoelstra.
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I have a feeling MJ turned down Jerry Sloan, Brian Shaw, and Patrick Ewing because he wants ultimate control on what's going on with the team (players, trades, etc). MJ is a control freak kinda guy, and now he has a pawn as his coach that he'll be able to manipulate.
Much like Pat Riley and Spoelstra.
Everything I read and hear about Mike's ownership of the Bobcats is exactly the opposite. Instead of being a control freak, he's mostly been MIA, far away from Charlotte and the team's issues. Instead, he's on the golf course, or in Miami, Chicago, or Vegas.
While he certainly drives key decisions, I can't recall anyone reporting that MJ is deeply involved with the Bobcats' day-to-day activities. And frankly, he's been roundly criticized for that, with calls for him to directly assert his control over the team.
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Not good enough for UWM but good enough for the Charlotte Bobcats!
It will be interesting to see which team wins more games next year!