McKay

[JWags85]

Jameel McKay is an absolute beast for ISU.  I wish the best for Burton, but seeing him explode into a stud like McKay has would be brutal.  Love our program's direction, but tough to see former players killing it.

[forgetful]

The big question for Burton is whether he will be willing to play defense, play 100% on both ends of the court and play within the confines of an offense.

If he does, he will be a beast.  If he doesn't, he may have flashy stats, but he won't improve his team.

Often, moving to a different place and hearing the same thing has a way to finally let it sink in, so hopefully it does for him.

[Dawson Rental]

The big question for Burton is whether he will be willing to play defense, play 100% on both ends of the court and play within the confines of an offense.

If he does, he will be a beast.  If he doesn't, he may have flashy stats, but he won't improve his team.

Often, moving to a different place and hearing the same thing has a way to finally let it sink in, so hopefully it does for him.

See: Maymon, Jeronnie

[jesmu84]

Yea, it sucks. But I can kind of understand it. Why would he have wanted to stay at MU, redshirt and play in the post? When he could just as easily go to ISU, redshirt and play in the post?

[warriorchick]

Woulda, coulda, shoulda....

Let's move on.

[HutchwasClutch]

Jameel McKay is an absolute beast for ISU.  I wish the best for Burton, but seeing him explode into a stud like McKay has would be brutal.  Love our program's direction, but tough to see former players killing it.

Yeah, he's very good.  Yeah, watching him play you can't help but wish he would have stayed.

It was also HIS man that he let slip under the basket for what should have been a tying basket to send tonight's game with OU to overtime (the guy blew the layup).  Not sure what he was thinking, OU was only down two, and he was drifting out ready to cover a guy spotted up beyond the arc.  

[rocky_warrior]

Burton will probably be a beast.  But I can't blame Wojo for his departure.  Some think we 'lost' him, but more than likely there was no way we could 'keep' him. Understandably, his head was leading him away from Marquette.

[79Warrior]

Burton will probably be a beast.  But I can't blame Wojo for his departure.  Some think we 'lost' him, but more than likely there was no way we could 'keep' him. Understandably, his head was leading him away from Marquette.

Burton is gone, who cares. He did not want to be in Wojo's system.

[HutchwasClutch]

Burton is gone, who cares. He did not want to be in Wojo's system.

Agree, and that's because he exuded selfishness on the court, both ends.

[rocky_warrior]

Burton is gone, who cares. He did not want to be in Wojo's system.

If you're asking.  I do care.  And it didn't have much to do with Wojo's 'system'.

[ecompt]

Burton is gone, who cares. He did not want to be in Wojo's system.

I got the impression Denote wanted to have the ball in his hands and shoot 25 times a game while playing zero defense.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Yea, it sucks. But I can kind of understand it. Why would he have wanted to stay at MU, redshirt and play in the post? When he could just as easily go to ISU, redshirt and play in the post?

He wouldn't have red shirted for MU last year, but your point still sort of stands.

[Jay Bee]

Burton was a huge loss. I hope he does extremely well at ISU.

[willie warrior]

Jameel McKay is an absolute beast for ISU.  I wish the best for Burton, but seeing him explode into a stud like McKay has would be brutal.  Love our program's direction, but tough to see former players killing it.

Thank you phony douche cowboy Buzzster.

[79Warrior]

If you're asking.  I do care.  And it didn't have much to do with Wojo's 'system'.

Well, the old girlfriend is not coming back, so thinking about what could have been is wasted energy. Move on.

[willie warrior]

The big question for Burton is whether he will be willing to play defense, play 100% on both ends of the court and play within the confines of an offense.

If he does, he will be a beast.  If he doesn't, he may have flashy stats, but he won't improve his team.

Often, moving to a different place and hearing the same thing has a way to finally let it sink in, so hopefully it does for him.

He already does. have you been watching? Thanks to the Buzzard for losing this guy.

[MU82]

Thinking about McKay really is wasted energy.

To keep him, Buzz probably had two options: Promise him he would have played the 3, which would have been a lie and eventually gotten everybody pissed at Buzz for lying; not let Otule come back for another season, and I think Otule earned that invitation.

McKay, like Maymon, didn't want to hear the truth about where he was best suited.So he bolted and ended up in the exact same position. Good player ... we coulda used him ... but good riddance.

[bilsu]

Burton will probably be a beast.  But I can't blame Wojo for his departure.  Some think we 'lost' him, but more than likely there was no way we could 'keep' him. Understandably, his head was leading him away from Marquette.

Starting Cohen over Burton at start of season probably has a lot to do with why Burton left. Nothing like kicking a kid when he is down with the passing of his mother. To me both Buzz and Wojo unintentionally pushed out McKay and Burton by being inflexible and not looking at the big picture. In my opinion both coaches are inflexible.

[#UnleashSean]

... we coulda used him ... but good riddance.

Can't be used together. Rofl.

[The Equalizer]

Thinking about McKay really is wasted energy.

To keep him, Buzz probably had two options: Promise him he would have played the 3, which would have been a lie and eventually gotten everybody pissed at Buzz for lying; not let Otule come back for another season, and I think Otule earned that invitation.

McKay, like Maymon, didn't want to hear the truth about where he was best suited.So he bolted and ended up in the exact same position. Good player ... we coulda used him ... but good riddance.

McKay left well after the start of the academic year, which meant McKay and Otule both had scholarships. This wasn't an issue of Buzz having to choose between keeping McKay or not letting Otule come back.  Both were on the team.

I suspect (especially after seeing McKay play this year) McKay was easily beating Otule in early practice yet Buzz told him that he was going to be loyal to Otule no matter how hard McKay practiced.

[MuMark]

Starting Cohen over Burton at start of season probably has a lot to do with why Burton left. Nothing like kicking a kid when he is down with the passing of his mother. To me both Buzz and Wojo unintentionally pushed out McKay and Burton by being inflexible and not looking at the big picture. In my opinion both coaches are inflexible.

Or they were both sending a message that Burton for one reason or another didn't care to hear....

Carlino, Juan and Luke disagree with your opinion about Wojo.....

Duane didn't start the first game either.....Eventually he earned his way into the starting lineup and had a great rookie season....

[brewcity77]

Starting Cohen over Burton at start of season probably has a lot to do with why Burton left. Nothing like kicking a kid when he is down with the passing of his mother. To me both Buzz and Wojo unintentionally pushed out McKay and Burton by being inflexible and not looking at the big picture. In my opinion both coaches are inflexible.

I won't pretend to know all the reasons Burton left. Clearly McKay was a loss and Burton could become one as well. But I do fully believe that this year especially, the most important thing is building the future of the program. If, for whatever reason, Burton didn't want to be a part of that, Marquette is better off moving on. We watched this year when Jajuan struggled and how well he responded to being challenged by the coaching staff. That will benefit us going forward, even if Jajuan would elect to transfer now, because it sends the message to current players and recruits about hard work and what the staff expects.

No one player is bigger than the program. No one player will make or break the future of Marquette. My hope is that in 5 years, Wojo has Marquette on firmer footing than at any point of the last 30 years. For that to happen, it won't be about any one player (not even Ellenson) it will be about a strong foundation and a full team that can play at the highest level and buy in to the system. If that means we miss out on a good or even great player for a couple years of his career, so be it.

In the past decade since the transfers really started getting crazy, McKay is the first player that I think the fanbase would really regret losing. Dameon Mason might have been great, but went on to do very little. Reggie Smith, Jamail Jones, Erik Williams, etc for the most part did very little after leaving. Honestly, I'm okay with coaches being inflexible as long as they can bring in players that will work within their system.

When Buzz took over, he anticipated 1-2 transfers per year because of his inflexibility. I'm okay with that. When Wojo took over, while he kept the team together, it would have been a bit naive to believe all of the players he started with would end their careers here. I'm far more concerned with the future and bringing in guys that buy into his system than trying to bend to the ones that were from another regime and won't be around as long.

[willie warrior]

McKay left well after the start of the academic year, which meant McKay and Otule both had scholarships. This wasn't an issue of Buzz having to choose between keeping McKay or not letting Otule come back.  Both were on the team.

I suspect (especially after seeing McKay play this year) McKay was easily beating Otule in early practice yet Buzz told him that he was going to be loyal to Otule no matter how hard McKay practiced.

If your suspicion is right, and it makes sense, because that was Buzz's MO, his way or the highway-- McKay, Duane, Otule, Derrick, etc.) it was just another nail for the phony cowboy--no wonder MU administration showed him the ass slamming door.

[willie warrior]

I won't pretend to know all the reasons Burton left. Clearly McKay was a loss and Burton could become one as well. But I do fully believe that this year especially, the most important thing is building the future of the program. If, for whatever reason, Burton didn't want to be a part of that, Marquette is better off moving on. We watched this year when Jajuan struggled and how well he responded to being challenged by the coaching staff. That will benefit us going forward, even if Jajuan would elect to transfer now, because it sends the message to current players and recruits about hard work and what the staff expects.

No one player is bigger than the program. No one player will make or break the future of Marquette. My hope is that in 5 years, Wojo has Marquette on firmer footing than at any point of the last 30 years. For that to happen, it won't be about any one player (not even Ellenson) it will be about a strong foundation and a full team that can play at the highest level and buy in to the system. If that means we miss out on a good or even great player for a couple years of his career, so be it.

In the past decade since the transfers really started getting crazy, McKay is the first player that I think the fanbase would really regret losing. Dameon Mason might have been great, but went on to do very little. Reggie Smith, Jamail Jones, Erik Williams, etc for the most part did very little after leaving. Honestly, I'm okay with coaches being inflexible as long as they can bring in players that will work within their system.

When Buzz took over, he anticipated 1-2 transfers per year because of his inflexibility. I'm okay with that. When Wojo took over, while he kept the team together, it would have been a bit naive to believe all of the players he started with would end their careers here. I'm far more concerned with the future and bringing in guys that buy into his system than trying to bend to the ones that were from another regime and won't be around as long.

So, you are OK with what? 1-2 transfers per year or inflexibility? Neither are good traits for a college coach, IMO. I guess it is just the "In Buzz we trust" jones, ai'na.

[4everwarriors]

Next man up, ai na?

[The Equalizer]

In the past decade since the transfers really started getting crazy, McKay is the first player that I think the fanbase would really regret losing. Dameon Mason might have been great, but went on to do very little. Reggie Smith, Jamail Jones, Erik Williams, etc for the most part did very little after leaving. Honestly, I'm okay with coaches being inflexible as long as they can bring in players that will work within their system.

I think at least some regret the following:

Maymon and Mbakwe--needed more size up front Buzz's first two seasons.
Saunders
Christopherson would have provided strong outside shooting missing in 2010 and 11.
Newbill would have been a far preferable option over Jake Thomas in 2014
McKay based on his performance this year.

I'll grant some may have reasons they want to debate each of these choices--but all went on to be strong performers at their future homes.
 
I don't think it fair to suggest that McKay is the only regrettable departure in the last 10 years.

[HutchwasClutch]

I think at least some regret the following:

Maymon and Mbakwe--needed more size up front Buzz's first two seasons.
Saunders
Christopherson would have provided strong outside shooting missing in 2010 and 11.
Newbill would have been a far preferable option over Jake Thomas in 2014
McKay based on his performance this year.

I'll grant some may have reasons they want to debate each of these choices--but all went on to be strong performers at their future homes.
 
I don't think it fair to suggest that McKay is the only regrettable departure in the last 10 years.

Definitely agree with your list.

And I'll add that had Mbakwe stuck around for just the 2008-09 season at least, that may have been an Elite 8, or dare I say Final Four team even.  That said, Dominic going down late that season may not have made that so even with Mbakwe, but that Wes, Jerel, and Dominic (and a budding Jimmy) team was only missing a solid presence in the paint blocking shots and rebounding as Mbakwe was really talented at doing.  Oh, what might have been!

[brewcity77]

So, you are OK with what? 1-2 transfers per year or inflexibility? Neither are good traits for a college coach, IMO. I guess it is just the "In Buzz we trust" jones, ai'na.

I'm absolutely fine with it. Do you think Coach K, Self, or Calipari aren't like that? Do they let players dictate minutes and lineups? Of course not. Because they aren't stupid. As soon as the adult that is paid millions to do his job allows the whims of a teenager to make his decisions for him is the moment her loses his team.

Transfers are part of the game. The coach being in charge is the only way it should be done. You don't let your teenage kids make financial decisions for the household or tell his parents what they will and won't do, why should a coach be different?

[MuMark]

Bo Ryan isn't flexible and yet he has few transfers.........You can't look at how many trasnfers we have had and automacially assume it is because Buzz/Crean/Wojo aren't "flexible".

Much more complicated then that......

[forgetful]

Bo Ryan isn't flexible and yet he has few transfers.........You can't look at how many trasnfers we have had and automacially assume it is because Buzz/Crean/Wojo aren't "flexible".

Much more complicated then that......

Many of the players not expected to get minutes right away are strongly encouraged by Bo and the team to redshirt.  That pretty much kills any chance of transferring. 

[HutchwasClutch]

Many of the players not expected to get minutes right away are strongly encouraged by Bo and the team to redshirt.  That pretty much kills any chance of transferring. 

I don't agree with that, what 18-19 year old kid who has grown up likely being the best player almost or literally every time he steps on the court wants to sit a year?!

I look in amazement at what he's done over there.

[willie warrior]

I'm absolutely fine with it. Do you think Coach K, Self, or Calipari aren't like that? Do they let players dictate minutes and lineups? Of course not. Because they aren't stupid. As soon as the adult that is paid millions to do his job allows the whims of a teenager to make his decisions for him is the moment her loses his team.

Transfers are part of the game. The coach being in charge is the only way it should be done. You don't let your teenage kids make financial decisions for the household or tell his parents what they will and won't do, why should a coach be different?

That isn't what I said. I do not believe Coach K has many transfers. I do not believe that it is a good thing to accept 1 or 2 transfers each year as a coach. And inflexibility is not a positive either, IMO.

[GGGG]

Starting Cohen over Burton at start of season probably has a lot to do with why Burton left. Nothing like kicking a kid when he is down with the passing of his mother. To me both Buzz and Wojo unintentionally pushed out McKay and Burton by being inflexible and not looking at the big picture. In my opinion both coaches are inflexible.

So Wojo should have started him, even though he didn't think he deserved it, and in so doing is "inflexible?"  That's ridiculous. 

[GGGG]

McKay left well after the start of the academic year, which meant McKay and Otule both had scholarships. This wasn't an issue of Buzz having to choose between keeping McKay or not letting Otule come back.  Both were on the team.

I suspect (especially after seeing McKay play this year) McKay was easily beating Otule in early practice yet Buzz told him that he was going to be loyal to Otule no matter how hard McKay practiced.

The story is that McKay wanted to play power forward, but Buzz wanted to roll with the "Oxtule" experiment and told McKay he would back up the post.  (I have no idea of Otule was dominating him in practice.)

Considering Oxtule was a complete disaster, Buzz screwed this one up.  Having Jamil, Jameel and Otule starting...with Davate coming off the bench, would have been formidable.  Even better if Blue would have stuck around.

[bilsu]

I was not on the Dawson band wagon like some posters here, but he deserved a chance. Wojo talked before the season started about making everyone feel part of the team. He certainly shut out Dawson. Maybe it was Dawson's fault, but I never felt he was a bad kid. I enjoyed Buzz, because he was quirky. I just cannot get into Wojo. I do like his recruiting, but I will need to see what he does with his own players. I am still selling Wojo.

[MuMark]

I was not on the Dawson band wagon like some posters here, but he deserved a chance. Wojo talked before the season started about making everyone feel part of the team. He certainly shut out Dawson. Maybe it was Dawson's fault, but I never felt he was a bad kid. I enjoyed Buzz, because he was quirky. I just cannot get into Wojo. I do like his recruiting, but I will need to see what he does with his own players. I am still selling Wojo.

He had the same chance as everyone else

[brewcity77]

That isn't what I said. I do not believe Coach K has many transfers. I do not believe that it is a good thing to accept 1 or 2 transfers each year as a coach. And inflexibility is not a positive either, IMO.

I don't think Wojo plans to have 1-2 transfers per year like Buzz expected. The first year of a new regime will almost always see significant turnover. The only difference is his transfers happened midseason instead of preseason.

If 60% of Wojo's 2015 class transfers we may have something to worry about. But losing Buzz's recruits doesn't really worry me.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

My buddy Abdel Nader had a nice game too. Was also a MU target back in the day. I remember Aki Collins at his practices.

[naginiF]

I was not on the Dawson band wagon like some posters here, but he deserved a chance. Wojo talked before the season started about making everyone feel part of the team. He certainly shut out Dawson. Maybe it was Dawson's fault, but I never felt he was a bad kid. I enjoyed Buzz, because he was quirky. I just cannot get into Wojo. I do like his recruiting, but I will need to see what he does with his own players. I am still selling Wojo.

everyone i've ever interacted with in my professional life has called me eccentric or 'quirky'.  For some it's allowed them to truly blossom.  others, both of us have had to adjust our interactions to be successful.  others, we've had to find a more strict/structured environment for them to blossom which means they leave (best for every one as i believe is the case with our recent transfers).  Not any different for a D1 Coach, especially a first year one.  Structured is different than quirky.  not better, not worse, just different - where issues occur is when one of the parties believe that one is better/worse than the other and refuses to either adapt or move on.  I am still BUYING Coach Wojo.

[MU82]

McKay left well after the start of the academic year, which meant McKay and Otule both had scholarships. This wasn't an issue of Buzz having to choose between keeping McKay or not letting Otule come back.  Both were on the team.

I suspect (especially after seeing McKay play this year) McKay was easily beating Otule in early practice yet Buzz told him that he was going to be loyal to Otule no matter how hard McKay practiced.

Thanks for the correction on this. I don't pretend to have inside info and I shouldn't have speculated wildly.

[Groin_pull]

Bo Ryan isn't flexible and yet he has few transfers.........You can't look at how many trasnfers we have had and automacially assume it is because Buzz/Crean/Wojo aren't "flexible".

Much more complicated then that......

Well, something is clearly going on, because MU has multiple transfers every year.

[MUeng]

Well, mckay would clearly be the best player on the team, so if buzz told him limited playing time, oh well...ooops

[Tums Festival]

As Brew said, it isn't at all uncommon for roster turnover whenever there's a coaching change. Since next year will be the first year with some truly Wojo only players, it's way too early to start worrying about constant transfers on his watch. What was so weird was how both Crean and Brent would lose players they themselves scouted and recruited on a regular basis.

[PE8983]

McKay is a decent player, nothing great.  When ISU was trashing Kansas last night the last 5 minutes of the game last night, where was McKay?  On the bench cheering with the rest of the subs.

[willie warrior]

Watching McKay 's play to Otule: No comparison. McKay is light years ahead of Otule. But Buzz told McKay: Sit?

What a masterful move by the Head of Phoniness!!

[GGGG]

Well, mckay would clearly be the best player on the team, so if buzz told him limited playing time, oh well...ooops

McKay would not have been the best player on last year's team.  He is a high energy guy that thrives at ISU right now because he has a good PG and scorers all around him.  

[GGGG]

Watching McKay 's play to Otule: No comparison. McKay is light years ahead of Otule. But Buzz told McKay: Sit?

Completely different types of players.  Again, the biggest problem that lead to his departure was the dumb Oxtule experiment. 

[Groin_pull]

I don't agree with that, what 18-19 year old kid who has grown up likely being the best player almost or literally every time he steps on the court wants to sit a year?!

I look in amazement at what he's done over there.

Ryan has done an incredible job. Later today...his 17th straight tourney invite. Later this month, likely his second Final Four. All with minimal drama and roster turnover. The guy knows what he's doing. I envy their stability.

[Groin_pull]

McKay is a decent player, nothing great.  When ISU was trashing Kansas last night the last 5 minutes of the game last night, where was McKay?  On the bench cheering with the rest of the subs.

He'd be MU's best player this year...by a mile.

[nyg]

McKay is a decent player, nothing great.  When ISU was trashing Kansas last night the last 5 minutes of the game last night, where was McKay?  On the bench cheering with the rest of the subs.

Right.......

12 ppg, 8 rebounds and 2 blocks.  Plus he was the Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year.  More than a decent player.  

[Groin_pull]

I guess this is the part where MU fans makes themselves feel better by dismissing players who have left the program.

[PE8983]

Well if he's so great, why was he in the bench the last 5 minutes of the game last night? Because he can't shoot and misses FT's.

[nyg]

Well if he's so great, why was he in the bench the last 5 minutes of the game last night? Because he can't shoot and misses FT's.

Because Kansas went small and Hoiberg put in players that would match up them.  Simple. 

[Groin_pull]

Well if he's so great, why was he in the bench the last 5 minutes of the game last night? Because he can't shoot and misses FT's.

Stop it. You're embarrassing youself.

[willie warrior]

McKay would not have been the best player on last year's team.  He is a high energy guy that thrives at ISU right now because he has a good PG and scorers all around him.  

WTF? Derrick wasn't a good PG? Huh? Huh?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Well, something is clearly going on, because MU has multiple transfers every year.

Last season the average number of transfers per team was 2.45 if I remember correctly. In other words, multiple transfers happen.

[willie warrior]

Last season the average number of transfers per team was 2.45 if I remember correctly. In other words, multiple transfers happen.

So we should strive to be like the average????

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

So we should strive to be like the average????

No. I'm saying we shouldn't make a mountain out of a molehill.

[willie warrior]

No. I'm saying we shouldn't make a mountain out of a molehill.

Yup--no big deal--transfers are OK--they sort the wheat from the chaff; the studs from the duds; the cattle from the weaklings--after all we are only dealing with young men here so lets not get carried away with having a concern with a revolving door. Stability leads to staleness. We want to be ahead of the curve. I get it.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Yup--no big deal--transfers are OK--they sort the wheat from the chaff; the studs from the duds; the cattle from the weaklings--after all we are only dealing with young men here so lets not get carried away with having a concern with a revolving door. Stability leads to staleness. We want to be ahead of the curve. I get it.

.....ok

Like I said, 2.45 transfers per team last year. Among non-athletes about 40% of college students transfer. Sometimes they just happen. MU is well within the average.

Molehill, not mountain

[MU82]

I guess this is the part where MU fans makes themselves feel better by dismissing players who have left the program.

I don't "dismiss" anyone. There simply is nothing any of us can do about it. It's out of our control. McKay isn't coming back, sources say.

[PE8983]

A couple of people on here acting like he's a lottery pick.  No way he's even close to getting drafted.  Wish he was still at MU, but whatever.

[AirPunches]

Just disappointing how it went down. McKay would have been huge upgrade last year and this one. An immeasurable upgrade over Otule on both ends of the floor. Too bad Buzz didn't want to hurt Chris' feelings by playing the better player, so instead he put down McKay in front of a group of coaches.

[Nevada233]

Just disappointing how it went down. McKay would have been huge upgrade last year and this one. An immeasurable upgrade over Otule on both ends of the floor. Too bad Buzz didn't want to hurt Chris' feelings by playing the better player, so instead he put down McKay in front of a group of coaches.

McKay has got NBA written all over him. He sure woulda helped MU out.

[4everwarriors]

Long run=better without him

[willie warrior]

Completely different types of players.  Again, the biggest problem that lead to his departure was the dumb Oxtule experiment. 

Yeah you are right--completely different---McKay is a hell of a lot better.

[MU82]

He has won as many NCAA tournament games these last two years as Derrick and Juan have! 

[wadesworld]

McKay has got NBA written all over him. He sure woulda helped MU out.

NBA written all over him?  He's like 6'9" 210 lbs and can't hit a shot outside of 8 feet.  Rebounds well, dunks well.

[willie warrior]

He has won as many NCAA tournament games these last two years as Derrick and Juan have! 

But he will play at the next level. Those two won't.

[PE8983]

If by "next level", you mean Europe, you are right.

[zrjones13]

McKay had a pretty good game today a couple big blocked shots.  But when Niang had foul trouble they couldn't get a rebound, even when Niang came back UAB was still killing them on the boards.

[warriorchick]

NBA written all over him?  He's like 6'9" 210 lbs and can't hit a shot outside of 8 feet.  Rebounds well, dunks well.

I saw him on campus the week before his transfer was announced, and he is one of the skinniest D1 basketball players I have ever seen. He looked like a shorter Manute Bol.

Unless he has (or will) put on some serious muscle, he would get snapped in half in an NBA game like a chicken bone.

[GGGG]

I saw him on campus the week before his transfer was announced, and he is one of the skinniest D1 basketball players I have ever seen. He looked like a shorter Manute Bol.

Unless he has (or will) put on some serious muscle, he would get snapped in half in an NBA game like a chicken bone.

If he is only 6'9", he has to develop some type of offensive game to make the NBA.  Too small to be the hustly, reboundy guy.

[Wojo'sMojo]

Long run=better without him

Lol, better without him?! Usually I just ignore your idiotic ramblings, but this comment was too stupid to ignore.

[77ncaachamps]

If he is only 6'9", he has to develop some type of offensive game to make the NBA.  Too small to be the hustly, reboundy guy.

I agree that he has a lot of work to do before he makes it to the league. For starters, he's rail thin for a post player.
Also, he needs to work on his shooting so that defenders must play him on pick and rolls.
He has a chance.

But he's an awesome college player.

[Stretchdeltsig]

I eatched him closely today and he seemed to be a non factor.

[MU82]

I eatched him closely today and he seemed to be a non factor.

He did fine as an energy guy on the boards for much of the game but was a complete non-factor down the stretch.

The idea of him being an NBA player without significant improvement to both his physique and game is laughable. He has the same kind of game -- and shooting range -- as DeAndre Jordan ... but McKay is 2 inches shorter and about 100 pounds lighter.

Vander is far closer to the NBA than McKay is.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

But he will play at the next level. Those two won't.

Are you talking about Europe?

If you are talking about the NBA, I will wager whatever you want that McKay is never on an NBA regular season roster. Not a 10 day contract. Not anything.

He's a good college player, no doubt. But, he's not NBA material. At. All.