2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread

[Blackhat]

Rodgers surrounded by mediocrity.

[wadesworld]

Rodgers surrounded by mediocrity.

No. Rodgers held back by a mediocre coach. Nothing else is mediocre about the Packers.

[DegenerateDish]

That sucked all around. I hated that game.

[Blackhat]

You've got to explain how he was held back by the coach.  Didn't call the right play?

[4everwarriors]

Damn game is 60 minutes, not 58, hey?

[Blackhat]

That sucked all around. I hated that game.

Yep.  Winner should have to donate the SB game to Detroit for charity's sake.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Tons of opportunities.  Two FG's early was big.  Fake punt TD.  Two point miracle.  Inside kick.  Prevent offense.

Seattle also blew some of their opportunities.  Football is not decided by one play, but that won't stop some fans and the media from thinking that way.

Definitely a collapse, but it started long ago.  Have to take care of those situations where you have teams on the ropes.

[jesmu84]

Rodgers surrounded by mediocrity.

Best player in the NFL at any position... had an awful game today himself.

[brandx]

Utter collapse job by defense. But we have seen this before from Capers.

The last player was Capers' last 4 years rolled up into one play. With the game on the line, bring both safeties to the line of scrimmage. Probably not another DC that would do that.

[tower912]

End of the first quarter, listening to the game on the radio, two short field goals...I say to my wife that settling for two short field goals is how the Lions traditionally lose games.

[GGGG]

I really can't blame Capers for that.

I blame an overly conservative 5:00 offense, and a special teams that has been crappy all year.  Bostick was supposed to let Jordy get that ball.

[Sir Lawrence]

I'm pretty certain I'm taking up curling next fall.  Or choir.  Something to keep me busy most Sundays.

[wadesworld]

I really can't blame Capers for that.

I blame an overly conservative 5:00 offense, and a special teams that has been crappy all year.  Bostick was supposed to let Jordy get that ball.

No kidding.

Richard Rodgers has a nice day splitting the middle of the field with a few catches.  Then when it comes down to crunch time we're running him out wide on a button hook and throwing it to him?  Why?  What's the point of having Eddie Lacy if you're going to hand it to James Starks when the game is on the line?  (I know, Starks broke off 1 big run and had a couple other decent runs, but there's no reason that Lacy isn't the guy we should be handing the ball to when we're trying to manage the clock.)  Richard Sherman is playing with literally 1 arm and we don't try to challenge him even once.  Earl Thomas is banged up, too, yet not once in the 2nd half do we even look to take a shot at a big play in the passing game.  And heck, it didn't affect the outcome of the game, but what in the world is the point in taking an immediate timeout with 19 seconds left?  You aren't getting the ball back regardless of whether Crosby makes or misses his field goal.  It's either make it and go to overtime or miss it and they're in the victory formation.  If I'm sitting there wondering what's the point, there's a problem.

[real chili 83]

No kidding.

Richard Rodgers has a nice day splitting the middle of the field with a few catches.  Then when it comes down to crunch time we're running him out wide on a button hook and throwing it to him?  Why?  What's the point of having Eddie Lacy if you're going to hand it to James Starks when the game is on the line?  (I know, Starks broke off 1 big run and had a couple other decent runs, but there's no reason that Lacy isn't the guy we should be handing the ball to when we're trying to manage the clock.)  Richard Sherman is playing with literally 1 arm and we don't try to challenge him even once.  Earl Thomas is banged up, too, yet not once in the 2nd half do we even look to take a shot at a big play in the passing game.  And heck, it didn't affect the outcome of the game, but what in the world is the point in taking an immediate timeout with 19 seconds left?  You aren't getting the ball back regardless of whether Crosby makes or misses his field goal.  It's either make it and go to overtime or miss it and they're in the victory formation.  If I'm sitting there wondering what's the point, there's a problem.

Paragraphs, please.

[jesmu84]

No kidding.

Richard Rodgers has a nice day splitting the middle of the field with a few catches.  Then when it comes down to crunch time we're running him out wide on a button hook and throwing it to him?  Why?  What's the point of having Eddie Lacy if you're going to hand it to James Starks when the game is on the line?  (I know, Starks broke off 1 big run and had a couple other decent runs, but there's no reason that Lacy isn't the guy we should be handing the ball to when we're trying to manage the clock.)  Richard Sherman is playing with literally 1 arm and we don't try to challenge him even once.  Earl Thomas is banged up, too, yet not once in the 2nd half do we even look to take a shot at a big play in the passing game.  And heck, it didn't affect the outcome of the game, but what in the world is the point in taking an immediate timeout with 19 seconds left?  You aren't getting the ball back regardless of whether Crosby makes or misses his field goal.  It's either make it and go to overtime or miss it and they're in the victory formation.  If I'm sitting there wondering what's the point, there's a problem.

According to twitter, and I think Buck/Aikman, Lacy took himself out of the game. Not sure why.

[wadesworld]

Paragraphs, please.

There's no real paragraphs to be made, but I'll break it down to individual thoughts for you.

Richard Rodgers has a nice day splitting the middle of the field with a few catches.  Then when it comes down to crunch time we're running him out wide on a button hook and throwing it to him?  Why?

What's the point of having Eddie Lacy if you're going to hand it to James Starks when the game is on the line?  (I know, Starks broke off 1 big run and had a couple other decent runs, but there's no reason that Lacy isn't the guy we should be handing the ball to when we're trying to manage the clock.)

Richard Sherman is playing with literally 1 arm and we don't try to challenge him even once.  Earl Thomas is banged up, too, yet not once in the 2nd half do we even look to take a shot at a big play in the passing game.

And heck, it didn't affect the outcome of the game, but what in the world is the point in taking an immediate timeout with 19 seconds left?  You aren't getting the ball back regardless of whether Crosby makes or misses his field goal.  It's either make it and go to overtime or miss it and they're in the victory formation.  If I'm sitting there wondering what's the point, there's a problem.

According to twitter, and I think Buck/Aikman, Lacy took himself out of the game. Not sure why.

I saw him check himself out of the game in like the 3rd quarter, but I thought I heard Buck say that Aaron Andrews reported to them that Lacy is healthy just a coach's decision to start with Starks in there following Seattle's last punt.

[Blackhat]

When u can't win a game when they give u 5 to's....

Anyway,  NE vs Seattle should actually be a great Super Bowl, assuming Seattle isn't signing balls away again.

[brandx]

Up 12 with under 5 minutes to play; then giving up 3 TDs in about 5-6 minutes?

Sounds like the definition of a defensive collapse to me. And other than the game winner, there was no coverage on any receiver. There were running loose in the secondary.

Defense gave up 207 yards in 8 minutes; that is Webster's definition of a total defensive collapse.

[wadesworld]

Up 12 with under 5 minutes to play; then giving up 3 TDs in about 5-6 minutes?

Sounds like the definition of a defensive collapse to me. And other than the game winner, there was no coverage on any receiver. There were running loose in the secondary.

Defense gave up 207 yards in 8 minutes; that is Webster's definition of a total defensive collapse.

And would've never had the opportunity to give up 145 of those yards had we simply executed an onside kick recovery.

[jesmu84]

Up 12 with under 5 minutes to play; then giving up 3 TDs in about 5-6 minutes?

Sounds like the definition of a defensive collapse to me. And other than the game winner, there was no coverage on any receiver. There were running loose in the secondary.

Defense gave up 207 yards in 8 minutes; that is Webster's definition of a total defensive collapse.

Not inaccurate. Though, none of that yardage or TDs should have mattered. Offense was not good in the second half.

[DegenerateDish]

I don't necessarily mind taking the two field goals early, but you have to put your foot on the pedal in the third quarter then. Their third quarter drives resulted in no points. That's when you have to really deliver the knockout blow. Possessions become a premium towards the back end of the third.

[MU82]

That was a collapse of Bear-ian proportions!

[muarmy81]

McCarthy. So frustrating.

It's ok. He'll hold the team together.

[muarmy81]

That was a collapse of Bear-ian proportions!

Actually no, Chicago never would have had a lead in the game to lose.

[MattyWarrior]

Some coaches on D have to go, they basically thought they had the game locked up with 4 minutes to go. The onside
kick and the 2 point conversion was high school football, and the play calling in fourth quarter was terrible. Lots of blame
to go around. What a letdown.