2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread

[MU B2002]

I'm not sure why they think Saban is such a good idea.

Not sure why you think that has any impact.  Hasn't stopped the Bears before.

[Blackhat]

I'm not sure why they think Saban is such a good idea.

He's got probably the best football S&C program in NFL or college, better than Harbaugh's even.    He knows how to coach defense, specifically db's where the NFL has become a passing game more and more.   I'd be thrilled with Saban if I were the Bears.

[GGGG]

He's got probably the best football S&C program in NFL or college, better than Harbaugh's even.    He knows how to coach defense, specifically db's where the NFL has become a passing game more and more.   I'd be thrilled with Saban if I were the Bears.

What has he accomplished at the professional level?  He bombed out as a head coach in Miami.  He's great when he can recruit his own guys, but I'm not sure he is good enough a coach to develop guys in the NFL. 

[Blackhat]

What has he accomplished at the professional level?  He bombed out as a head coach in Miami.  He's great when he can recruit his own guys, but I'm not sure he is good enough a coach to develop guys in the NFL.  

Fair point.  A physically similar team like Ohio State just chopped up his defense.  Personally, I think there's a better chance he ends up like a Pete Carroll and learns from his previous stint.  

[MU82]

Think they can go back in time and hire Arians?


http://deadspin.com/the-bears-probably-want-a-do-over-on-that-marc-trestman-1676354356

This is great stuff. You ask a respected football guy for his opinion, he gives it, and you summarily ignore it. Da Bears!

Obviously, Emery had his mind made up about Trestman and was hoping Marinelli gave him the thumbs-up.

[GGGG]

Fair point.  A physically similar team like Ohio State just chopped up his defense.  Personally, I think there's a better chance he ends up like a Pete Carroll and learns from his previous stint. 

Pete Carroll was different though.  He was actually a moderately successful NFL coach, and a very highly respected defensive coordinator before he went to USC.  (He was the San Francisco DC during at least one of their Super Bowls.)  Almost all of Saban's success has been at the college level.

Overly simplistic, but IMO Carroll was an NFL guy who succeeded at the college level.  Saban is a college guy.

[HutchwasClutch]

I'm pulling like crazy for the Bears to hire Shanahan to both GM and HC roles, and insist that Cutler is still salvageable.   

[HutchwasClutch]

The team on the rise in the North is Minnesota.  Zimmer knows defense, and Turner is an excellent OC.  He's not a head coach, but his coordinator work is why he's had multiple chances as an NFL coach. 

If the front office finds enough players for those two, they have a very bright future under Zimmer and Turner.

[GGGG]

The team on the rise in the North is Minnesota.  Zimmer knows defense, and Turner is an excellent OC.  He's not a head coach, but his coordinator work is why he's had multiple chances as an NFL coach. 

If the front office finds enough players for those two, they have a very bright future under Zimmer and Turner.

Agreed.  Especially on Zimmer.  And Bridgewater is going to be just fine as quarterback.  In fact if I were them, I would find a way to get rid of Peterson.  Don't need that distraction on a young team.

[HutchwasClutch]

Agreed.  Especially on Zimmer.  And Bridgewater is going to be just fine as quarterback.  In fact if I were them, I would find a way to get rid of Peterson.  Don't need that distraction on a young team.

They could probably stock up on good draft picks by moving Peterson.  Plus the punishment and miles he's had in the NFL and college already, I don't think he's going to have much more left in the tank beyond a couple more really good seasons. 

However, I think the distraction that would come with his return to the team would go away quickly.  We're a society with an extremely short attention span.   And they'd reap the benefits of Peterson playing with a giant chip on his shoulder next year.  He's always played with a chip on his shoulder, and I'm sure he feels the length of the supsension was unfair.   

Will be interesting to see what unfolds with him.  I bet he'll be back in purple in 2015.

[Blackhat]

Not entirely sure how things went down at the end but Saban did improve the Dolphins to 9-7,  then didn't get his guy Brees for qb, went 6-10 and bailed out.  Nothing to write home about but he had some "success".

[MUeng]

The team on the rise in the North is Minnesota.  Zimmer knows defense, and Turner is an excellent OC.  He's not a head coach, but his coordinator work is why he's had multiple chances as an NFL coach. 

If the front office finds enough players for those two, they have a very bright future under Zimmer and Turner.

Rise to 3rd place, yes. As long as rodgers and stafford/megatron are still playing for their respective teams, that is 1 and 2 in the north for years to come

[HutchwasClutch]

Stafford is way too inconsistent at QB.  I'm not sold on Caldwell being anything more than a mediocre coach.  I think Detroit has work to do to stay ahead of Minnesota. 

As long as Rodgers stays healthy, the Pack will always be the North favorite.  He's far and away the division's best QB. 

[wadesworld]

Stafford is way too inconsistent at QB.  I'm not sold on Caldwell being anything more than a mediocre coach.  I think Detroit has work to do to stay ahead of Minnesota. 

As long as Rodgers stays healthy, the Pack will always be the North favorite.  He's far and away the NFL's best QB. 

Fixed.

[JWags85]

Fixed.

Not so fast...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/12118096/joe-flacco-best-quarterback-football-baltimore-ravens-coach-john-harbaugh-says

[wadesworld]

Not so fast...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/12118096/joe-flacco-best-quarterback-football-baltimore-ravens-coach-john-harbaugh-says

Hah

[brandx]

I'm sure the HOF can't wait to induct him. Probably waive the 5 year rule for this special player.

[tower912]

I realize that Dallas is surging.   I realize that Detroit is going to find some way to lose.   But picking up that PI flag may be the most bizarre thing I have seen.  There should have been another flag for Dez Bryant running on the field.    Followed up by the worst punt ever.

[nyg]

I realize that Dallas is surging.   I realize that Detroit is going to find some way to lose.   But picking up that PI flag may be the most bizarre thing I have seen.  There should have been another flag for Dez Bryant running on the field.    Followed up by the worst punt ever.

Pick up flag, wow. 
Shanked punt
Defensive holding
Romo has all day to pass that TD
Lions get boned.......

Why can't Suh play consecutive downs?, He out of shape?  Jeez......

[MUeng]

I realize that Dallas is surging.   I realize that Detroit is going to find some way to lose.   But picking up that PI flag may be the most bizarre thing I have seen.  There should have been another flag for Dez Bryant running on the field.    Followed up by the worst punt ever.

textbook pass interference and they pick up the flag. Crazy.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

textbook pass interference and they pick up the flag. Crazy.

I honestly didn't think it was. It's only because he didn't turn his head. But Detroit doing Detroit things.

[GGGG]

I honestly didn't think it was. It's only because he didn't turn his head. But Detroit doing Detroit things.

If Mike Peirera called it PI, I think it's PI.

[tower912]

Detroit did Detroit things.   Dallas with a nice comeback.   But that picked up PI flag was a gamechanger.

[tower912]

And how Dez Bryant managed to run on the field without his helmet to scream about the call without getting a penalty is amazing.   

[jsglow]

Detroit did Detroit things.   Dallas with a nice comeback.   But that picked up PI flag was a gamechanger.

Terrible non call.  Obvious interference.