2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread

[ChicosBailBonds]

2008 NFL revenue = $6.4billion

2014 = $9.3 billion

By 2018 with the new contracts, looking at $16 billion

That's incredible growth, and that's what he is ultimately paid to do.

[NavinRJohnson]

Did they see the tape?  Did they not see the tape?  Did they ask to see it? Did they not ask to see it?  Were they not granted access? Did they do enough to get access? In the end the answers to those questions all lead to the exact same  place...the NFL and the Ravens simply don't care about this. It isn't/wasn't important to them. There is just no getting around it.

They aren't reacting now because they are concerned about domestic violence, they are reacting because of the public's reaction. They are reacting because they have to. Their concern around domestic violence on the part of their players is about the impact on their business, not the impact on the victims. Everybody can see that plain as day now, and it is for that reason that goddell's days are numbered. They will fond someone else who can make them money, but I just don't suspect they will be able to continue with him as the face of that office.

[DegenerateDish]

Did they see the tape?  Did they not see the tape?  Did they ask to see it? Did they not ask to see it?  Were they not granted access? Did they do enough to get access? In the end the answers to those questions all lead to the exact same  place...the NFL and the Ravens simply don't care about this. It isn't/wasn't important to them. There is just no getting around it.

They aren't reacting now because they are concerned about domestic violence, they are reacting because of the public's reaction. They are reacting because they have to. Their concern around domestic violence on the part of their players is about the impact on their business, not the impact on the victims. Everybody can see that plain as day now, and it is for that reason that goddell's days are numbered. They will fond someone else who can make them money, but I just don't suspect they will be able to continue with him as the face of that office.

Bravo sir, well said.

[brandx]

Did they see the tape?  Did they not see the tape?  Did they ask to see it? Did they not ask to see it?  Were they not granted access? Did they do enough to get access? In the end the answers to those questions all lead to the exact same  place...the NFL and the Ravens simply don't care about this. It isn't/wasn't important to them. There is just no getting around it.

They aren't reacting now because they are concerned about domestic violence, they are reacting because of the public's reaction. They are reacting because they have to. Their concern around domestic violence on the part of their players is about the impact on their business, not the impact on the victims. Everybody can see that plain as day now, and it is for that reason that goddell's days are numbered. They will fond someone else who can make them money, but I just don't suspect they will be able to continue with him as the face of that office.

From a few minutes ago:

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. (AP) — A law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee to an NFL executive three months ago, while league officers have insisted they didn't see the violent images until this week.
The person played The Associated Press a 12-second voicemail from an NFL office number on April 9 confirming the video arrived. A female voice expresses thanks and says: "You're right. It's terrible."

[tower912]

If true....boom goes the dynamite.   

[NavinRJohnson]

[SaintPaulWarrior]

More good news for the NFL.

http://deadspin.com/report-adrian-peterson-indicted-in-child-injury-case-1634160368?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow


Fox Houston reports that Vikings running back Adrian Peterson has been indicted in Montgomery County, Texas, for reckless or negligent injury to a child.

According to Fox Houston's Isiah Carey, the charges stem from allegations that Peterson "beat his young son." Child Protective Services confirmed to TMZ that it has a case involving Peterson and an 11-year-old boy.

NFL.com's Ian Rapaport adds this detail:


Jay Glazer adds that Peterson has been cooperating with law enforcement, and will now have to turn himself in to authorities. Rapaport notes that Peterson testified before a grand jury weeks ago.

Peterson keeps a home in Houston suburb The Woodlands, which lies in Montgomery County.

Peterson missed yesterday's team practice for what coach Mike Zimmer called a "veteran's day." He was back with the Vikings today.


Things are still getting sorted out, but here's some background on Texas law, from the online statutes. This appears to be what Peterson was indicted on:

Sec. 22.04. INJURY TO A CHILD, ELDERLY INDIVIDUAL, OR DISABLED INDIVIDUAL. (a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally, knowingly, recklessly, or with criminal negligence, by act or intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly by omission, causes to a child, elderly individual, or disabled individual:

(1) serious bodily injury;

(2) serious mental deficiency, impairment, or injury; or

(3) bodily injury.

As for if this was child abuse, Texas defines it separately in a family law chapter. So abuse is not a charge, but it is defined. You can see the very lengthy definition here: http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/FA/htm/FA...

[wadesworld]

More good news for the NFL.

http://deadspin.com/report-adrian-peterson-indicted-in-child-injury-case-1634160368?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow


Fox Houston reports that Vikings running back Adrian Peterson has been indicted in Montgomery County, Texas, for reckless or negligent injury to a child.

According to Fox Houston's Isiah Carey, the charges stem from allegations that Peterson "beat his young son." Child Protective Services confirmed to TMZ that it has a case involving Peterson and an 11-year-old boy.

NFL.com's Ian Rapaport adds this detail:


Jay Glazer adds that Peterson has been cooperating with law enforcement, and will now have to turn himself in to authorities. Rapaport notes that Peterson testified before a grand jury weeks ago.

Peterson keeps a home in Houston suburb The Woodlands, which lies in Montgomery County.

Peterson missed yesterday's team practice for what coach Mike Zimmer called a "veteran's day." He was back with the Vikings today.


Things are still getting sorted out, but here's some background on Texas law, from the online statutes. This appears to be what Peterson was indicted on:

Sec. 22.04. INJURY TO A CHILD, ELDERLY INDIVIDUAL, OR DISABLED INDIVIDUAL. (a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally, knowingly, recklessly, or with criminal negligence, by act or intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly by omission, causes to a child, elderly individual, or disabled individual:

(1) serious bodily injury;

(2) serious mental deficiency, impairment, or injury; or

(3) bodily injury.

As for if this was child abuse, Texas defines it separately in a family law chapter. So abuse is not a charge, but it is defined. You can see the very lengthy definition here: http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/FA/htm/FA...

Yup.  If this is bad and Peterson is suspended for an extended amount of time, what looked like a *great* (7-9) season for the Vikings just went down the crapper.  3-13 here they come.

[brandx]

More good news for the NFL.

According to Fox Houston's Isiah Carey, the charges stem from allegations that Peterson "beat his young son." Child Protective Services confirmed to TMZ that it has a case involving Peterson and an 11-year-old boy.

Goodell and Mueller confirm it's illegal to contact Child Protective Services.

[brandx]

Yup.  If this is bad and Peterson is suspended for an extended amount of time, what looked like a *great* (7-9) season for the Vikings just went down the crapper.  3-13 here they come.

Ponder will come to the rescue.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

More good news for the NFL.

http://deadspin.com/report-adrian-peterson-indicted-in-child-injury-case-1634160368?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow


Fox Houston reports that Vikings running back Adrian Peterson has been indicted in Montgomery County, Texas, for reckless or negligent injury to a child.

According to Fox Houston's Isiah Carey, the charges stem from allegations that Peterson "beat his young son." Child Protective Services confirmed to TMZ that it has a case involving Peterson and an 11-year-old boy.

NFL.com's Ian Rapaport adds this detail:


Jay Glazer adds that Peterson has been cooperating with law enforcement, and will now have to turn himself in to authorities. Rapaport notes that Peterson testified before a grand jury weeks ago.

Peterson keeps a home in Houston suburb The Woodlands, which lies in Montgomery County.

Peterson missed yesterday's team practice for what coach Mike Zimmer called a "veteran's day." He was back with the Vikings today.


Things are still getting sorted out, but here's some background on Texas law, from the online statutes. This appears to be what Peterson was indicted on:

Sec. 22.04. INJURY TO A CHILD, ELDERLY INDIVIDUAL, OR DISABLED INDIVIDUAL. (a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally, knowingly, recklessly, or with criminal negligence, by act or intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly by omission, causes to a child, elderly individual, or disabled individual:

(1) serious bodily injury;

(2) serious mental deficiency, impairment, or injury; or

(3) bodily injury.

As for if this was child abuse, Texas defines it separately in a family law chapter. So abuse is not a charge, but it is defined. You can see the very lengthy definition here: http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/FA/htm/FA...

Edit:

Nevermind.

Looks like AP might have beat him with a switch. Not good.

[4everwarriors]

So what. Peterson came back better than ever from ACL surgery, a'ina?

[wadesworld]

So what. Peterson came back better than ever from ACL surgery, a'ina?

I don't mean this to come off in the wrong way, but of all the people out there you would think someone who lost a child to an adult beating (granted, he never knew the child) would not be someone who beats his own child.  Sad, dark world sometimes.

[DegenerateDish]

He should never play again. EVER.

[wadesworld]

On a lighter note, because I can and because it's fun, this article is pretty darn spot on.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11505329/flem-file-chicago-bears-quarterback-jay-cutler-never-just-right

[brandx]

On a lighter note, because I can and because it's fun, this article is pretty darn spot on.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11505329/flem-file-chicago-bears-quarterback-jay-cutler-never-just-right

I read it this morning and was gonna post the link - but it's just too easy with Cutler.

[brandx]

He should never play again. EVER.

Already de-activated.

[jesmu84]

Posted in Rice thread... maybe belongs here:

The Greg Hardy 911 call... wow.

[brandx]

Goodell isn't the only one who can't be trusted.

The pretrial intervention program offered to Ray Rice in the assault case involving his wife was granted in less than 1 percent of all domestic violence assault cases from 2010-13 that were resolved, according to New Jersey Judiciary data obtained Friday by "Outside the Lines."

[jesmu84]

NFL/NFLPA just passed a new drug policy. Wes Welker and Orlando Scandrick re-instated

[DegenerateDish]

I read it this morning and was gonna post the link - but it's just too easy with Cutler.

Sadly, that's probably the happiest written NFL story this season too.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

unnatural carnal knowledge that article about Cutler. Seriously.

[jesmu84]

Only think I'll say about the Cutler article is that rarely has Jay ever made the claims that the article is implying he made: need an offensive coach, need receivers, etc. etc. Media, analysts and "journalists" often came out and said how those things would help Jay reach his potential. As well, he almost always takes the blame for his own mistakes when approached about them, just like the end of the article shows (though it tries to imply that was the first time ever that he did it)

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Only think I'll say about the Cutler article is that rarely has Jay ever made the claims that the article is implying he made: need an offensive coach, need receivers, etc. etc. Media, analysts and "journalists" often came out and said how those things would help Jay reach his potential. As well, he almost always takes the blame for his own mistakes when approached about them, just like the end of the article shows (though it tries to imply that was the first time ever that he did it)

This. That and when he did have an excuse like a torn miniscus they ripped him anyways.

[brandx]

Only think I'll say about the Cutler article is that rarely has Jay ever made the claims that the article is implying he made: need an offensive coach, need receivers, etc. etc. Media, analysts and "journalists" often came out and said how those things would help Jay reach his potential. As well, he almost always takes the blame for his own mistakes when approached about them, just like the end of the article shows (though it tries to imply that was the first time ever that he did it)

I read the article a bit differently. I felt he was saying that other people always had excuses for Jay's play, not that Jay was complaining about it. But, Bear fans especially have excused his play even as he marched the Bears through the playoffs year after year.

Sorry, I cant help myself when it comes to Jay.