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muwarrior69

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Re: Sad Trombone
« Reply #50 on: December 02, 2023, 01:51:48 PM »
We're going to win a national championship, this isn't really a big deal.

In 2077!

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Re: Sad Trombone
« Reply #51 on: December 02, 2023, 01:51:52 PM »
We're going to win a national championship, this isn't really a big deal.

Too many flaws on this team to win 6 in a row come March.

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Re: Sad Trombone
« Reply #52 on: December 02, 2023, 01:51:54 PM »
Playing on the road against a lesser team and got out toughed. Sorry
You posited that this team has “never responded to a punch in the mouth”.

I responded with a situation where they did.

You responded by changing the goalposts.

You lose - sorry.

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« Reply #53 on: December 02, 2023, 01:52:24 PM »
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« Reply #54 on: December 02, 2023, 01:52:49 PM »
Too many flaws on this team to win 6 in a row come March.

You guys are pathetic. Remember when UConn lost seven times in conference play last season?

By all means, be upset today. But don't make it into more than it is.

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« Reply #55 on: December 02, 2023, 01:53:10 PM »
 :P
For an offensive philosophy that favors the three, there just aren’t enough shooters on this team.

And Ben’s awful defense means you can’t really ride with him either.

+1000

Shaka needs to recruit shooters if this is how he wants to play. 

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« Reply #56 on: December 02, 2023, 01:53:37 PM »
Yes. Because it's true. On April 8, the only thing Wisconsin will have over us is multiple angles to watch us cut nets because they'll be doing it from their couch.

If you slip the teen employee $10 at Dave and Busters he let's you cut nets on the "Hoop-a-Lot" machine.
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« Reply #57 on: December 02, 2023, 01:54:10 PM »
It’s quite possible although hard to admit that maybe Wisconsin is a bit better than we all thought.

Not going to blame the refs one bit for this loss. The terrible effort on 50-50 balls, terrible 3 pt defense and terrible 3 pt shooting is why we lost. Joplin being 1-8 is basically 7 turnovers when he shot. Let’s move onto Texas

His obsession with driving into nothing killed us. He can't create and becomes a black hole when he drives.
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« Reply #58 on: December 02, 2023, 01:54:17 PM »
You guys are pathetic. Remember when UConn lost seven times in conference play last season?

By all means, be upset today. But don't make it into more than it is.

The rebounding issues are what they are. And that's a big hurdle. But what's more concerning is that they don't have enough shooters to keep the defense honest.

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« Reply #59 on: December 02, 2023, 01:54:50 PM »
You guys are pathetic. Remember when UConn lost seven times in conference play last season?

By all means, be upset today. But don't make it into more than it is.
First time on scoop?

You aren't wrong, but rationality is always in short supply after a loss.
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Re: Sad Trombone
« Reply #60 on: December 02, 2023, 01:55:41 PM »
Shaka not being able to win this rivalry is becoming an issue for me.
Agree!

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« Reply #61 on: December 02, 2023, 01:56:52 PM »
Nonsense.

The weaknesses that Gard exposed will resurface early in the tourney, as they did last year.
Agreed that was a great MU performance, whisky just that much better. LOL why is this f#cking lunatic alllwed to spam this board all day

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« Reply #62 on: December 02, 2023, 01:58:46 PM »
For an offensive philosophy that favors the three, there just aren’t enough shooters on this team.

And Ben’s awful defense means you can’t really ride with him either.
Your premise categorically incorrect.

The offensive philosophy favors dribble drives, cutting, and points in the paint. We hammered Kansas, UCLA, and Purdue in this category despite being significantly “out-sized” against all three.

The issue today was Wisconsin gameplanned against this by building a Toronto Raptors style wall and cutting off passing lanes while leaving our “shooters” naked. We played the style of basketball they wanted us to.

They also took away our other big strength of forcing turnovers and chaos to makeup for a lack of rebounding and second chance points. This has always been Wisconsin’s strength which unfortunately neutralizes Shaka’s style in this rivalry (at least for the past three years).

This is the exact type of team we have to learn to beat. Michigan State did not play too differently to beat us in the NCAAs. We will run into another team that plays this style of ball in the NCAAs if we think we’re winning a championship or going to a Final Four.


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Re: Sad Trombone
« Reply #63 on: December 02, 2023, 01:59:02 PM »

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Re: Sad Trombone
« Reply #64 on: December 02, 2023, 01:59:20 PM »
Agreed that was a great MU performance, whisky just that much better. LOL why is this f#cking lunatic alllwed to spam this board all day

He was actually a decent member 3 years ago then something happened. Mods won’t ban him though because of what happened

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« Reply #65 on: December 02, 2023, 01:59:22 PM »
You posited that this team has “never responded to a punch in the mouth”.

I responded with a situation where they did.

You responded by changing the goalposts.

You lose - sorry.

We did get out toughed big time today. You are right re ucla. These performances scare me for a potential march run

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Re: Sad Trombone
« Reply #66 on: December 02, 2023, 01:59:44 PM »
Your premise categorically incorrect.

The offensive philosophy favors dribble drives, cutting, and points in the paint. We hammered Kansas, UCLA, and Purdue in this category despite being significantly “out-sized” against all three.

The issue today was Wisconsin gameplanned against this by building a Toronto Raptors style wall and cutting off passing lanes while leaving our “shooters” naked. We played the style of basketball they wanted us to.

They also took away our other big strength of forcing turnovers and chaos to makeup for a lack of rebounding and second chance points. This has always been Wisconsin’s strength which unfortunately neutralizes Shaka’s style in this rivalry (at least for the past three years).

This is the exact type of team we have to learn to beat. Michigan State did not play too differently to beat us in the NCAAs. We will run into another team that plays this style of ball in the NCAAs if we think we’re winning a championship or going to a Final Four.

Excellent post

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Re: Sad Trombone
« Reply #67 on: December 02, 2023, 02:00:40 PM »
We did get out toughed big time today. You are right re ucla. These performances scare me for a potential march run
Agreed. “We’re gonna cut down nets” is cocky as unnatural carnal knowledge for a team that loses to teams built like this.

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« Reply #68 on: December 02, 2023, 02:00:44 PM »
Look, we're not beating good teams going
-15 on the glass and -14 in FTA's.  I don't think we took a FT in the 2H and Whisky only had 2 fouls.  The tenacity and poise were not there today for some reason.  We can all take losing or being outplayed, but what we saw today mostly was that our team wasn't ready to play and our two leaders were essentially invisible.  They hopefully will learn from this one. 

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« Reply #69 on: December 02, 2023, 02:01:33 PM »
Highly over-rated at this point. The advertised growth by anyone not named Kolek, Oso, or Kam is non-existent.  Rebounding effort must get way better or this team is not cutting any nets down anywhere.

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« Reply #70 on: December 02, 2023, 02:01:51 PM »
We did get out toughed big time today. You are right re ucla. These performances scare me for a potential march run

Agree.  Out-toughed.

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« Reply #71 on: December 02, 2023, 02:03:16 PM »
Your premise categorically incorrect.

The offensive philosophy favors dribble drives, cutting, and points in the paint. We hammered Kansas, UCLA, and Purdue in this category despite being significantly “out-sized” against all three.

The issue today was Wisconsin gameplanned against this by building a Toronto Raptors style wall and cutting off passing lanes while leaving our “shooters” naked. We played the style of basketball they wanted us to.

They also took away our other big strength of forcing turnovers and chaos to makeup for a lack of rebounding and second chance points. This has always been Wisconsin’s strength which unfortunately neutralizes Shaka’s style in this rivalry (at least for the past three years).

This is the exact type of team we have to learn to beat. Michigan State did not play too differently to beat us in the NCAAs. We will run into another team that plays this style of ball in the NCAAs if we think we’re winning a championship or going to a Final Four.

Wow, you and I agree on what Wiscy did to beat MU today.   You are coming around.
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« Reply #72 on: December 02, 2023, 02:04:34 PM »
Wow, you and I agree on what Wiscy did to beat MU today.   You are coming around.
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Enjoy your Saturday, Tower.

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« Reply #73 on: December 02, 2023, 02:04:42 PM »
Your premise categorically incorrect.

The offensive philosophy favors dribble drives, cutting, and points in the paint. We hammered Kansas, UCLA, and Purdue in this category despite being significantly “out-sized” against all three.

The issue today was Wisconsin gameplanned against this by building a Toronto Raptors style wall and cutting off passing lanes while leaving our “shooters” naked. We played the style of basketball they wanted us to.

They also took away our other big strength of forcing turnovers and chaos to makeup for a lack of rebounding and second chance points. This has always been Wisconsin’s strength which unfortunately neutralizes Shaka’s style in this rivalry (at least for the past three years).

This is the exact type of team we have to learn to beat. Michigan State did not play too differently to beat us in the NCAAs. We will run into another team that plays this style of ball in the NCAAs if we think we’re winning a championship or going to a Final Four.

Great analysis.  Marquette is not designed for slug-it-out games, and needs to rely on speed and dictating tempo . . . though I wouldn't mind a decent outside shooter on the roster.

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« Reply #74 on: December 02, 2023, 02:05:12 PM »
Shaka got out-coached today by Gard. Clear and simple. Watching the game you could see an exquisite game plan for which we had no answer in the first half.

Everybody learns from this, including Coach Shaka. The silver lining is this happened early in the season and will leave our guys with a sour taste in their mouth.

A return to a little bit of F@@k ‘em is a good thing!