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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: wyzgy on December 09, 2010, 12:57:13 PM

Title: we need jamil jones jump shot
Post by: wyzgy on December 09, 2010, 12:57:13 PM
if he can prove not to be a defensive liability, buzz needs to find out if jamil can drain the threes under the big lights with dicky v holding the mic.  i love djo, but somethings not clickin right now and we can't afford to wait around.  jamil's listed at 6' 6".  he's gonna drag one of their forwards out to the perimeter, taking him out of the rebound mix.  we just need a few more options from beyond the arc.  also, if we don't start using him, giving him some p.t., we're gonna lose him.  same with eric williams
Title: Re: we need jamil jones jump shot
Post by: Nukem2 on December 09, 2010, 01:07:13 PM
With Fulce out, Jamail and/or Erik need to come forward.
Title: Re: we need jamil jones jump shot
Post by: GOMU1104 on December 09, 2010, 01:24:10 PM
With Fulce out, Jamail and/or Erik need to come forward.

Jamail doesnt play the same position as Fulce, not even close.

Erik...he needs to figure things out.

My guess is that most of Fulce's minutes will go to Gardner, if healthy.
Title: Re: we need jamil jones jump shot
Post by: hairy worthen on December 09, 2010, 01:26:04 PM
if he can prove not to be a defensive liability, buzz needs to find out if jamil can drain the threes under the big lights with dicky v holding the mic.  i love djo, but somethings not clickin right now and we can't afford to wait around.  jamil's listed at 6' 6".  he's gonna drag one of their forwards out to the perimeter, taking him out of the rebound mix.  we just need a few more options from beyond the arc.  also, if we don't start using him, giving him some p.t., we're gonna lose him.  same with eric williams

I would like to see Jones and Williams succeed as well but,
Buzz or any coach should play the players that he feels give the team the best chance to win. I am assuming Buzz knows that better than anyone. He sure and hell shouldn't play someone because he is afraid he may lose them.
Title: Re: we need jamil jones jump shot
Post by: dsfire on December 09, 2010, 01:39:53 PM
Who do you think Jones should take minutes & shots from?  DJO?  Buycks? Blue, Butler, Crowder?

I don't think it's realistic to expect that a true freshman at the end of the bench is going to be a silver bullet for our current outside shooting woes, much less that he's necessarily a net positive to replace any of those guys on both ends of the floor.
Title: Re: we need jamil jones jump shot
Post by: GGGG on December 09, 2010, 01:46:33 PM
Buzz is first and foremost a defensive coach.  Unless a guy can get on the floor and defend (a la Blue), they aren't going to see the floor.

And Buzz shouldn't play kids because "we might lose them."  If Williams doesn't deserve to be on the floor, why would it matter if he transferred?  Don't get me wrong, I want him to stay and succeed, but I'm not going to weep if players who aren't playing transfer.
Title: Re: we need jamil jones jump shot
Post by: Wade for President on December 09, 2010, 01:59:01 PM
You want to know why Jones isn't playing more (or atleast why I hope is the reason he's not playing)?  Watch the tape from the Texas A & M CC game, specifically with 4:30 left in the game. 

There's a defensive rebound attempt RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM, and instead of going up to grab it or better yet, box his opponent out...he stands there and watches the guy grab the offensive rebound.  If I recall, the A & M player gets the rebound, puts up a shot, gets a second off rebound from his miss, and gets fouled/scores.

It was enough for me to scream at my tv.  We give up waaaaaaay too many off rebounds, and it's plays like that, that are the cause.
Title: Re: we need jamil jones jump shot
Post by: wyzgy on December 09, 2010, 02:10:47 PM
my thing is, we need to get some guys in there to see if they can bang down the three.  djo is presently in about an 11 game slump.  we need to give a few guys some at bats.  buzz should put a few of these guys in with some specific plays to free them up for a three.  we've got to see who can knock them down besides jae, dwight and maybe reggie.  can't have the other team campin.  no one has really stepped forward as the go to 3 guy
Title: Re: we need jamil jones jump shot
Post by: OhioGoldenEagle on December 09, 2010, 02:37:33 PM
my thing is, we need to get some guys in there to see if they can bang down the three.  djo is presently in about an 11 game slump.  we need to give a few guys some at bats.  buzz should put a few of these guys in with some specific plays to free them up for a three.  we've got to see who can knock them down besides jae, dwight and maybe reggie.  can't have the other team campin.  no one has really stepped forward as the go to 3 guy
DJO in an 11 game slump?  I assume you missed the UWM game because we may have lost that game if not for his efforts.

Further, everyone needs to chill out regarding the non-playing of Jamail Jones and EWill.  If they deserved to play, they simply would play.  Whatever contributions they might have on the offensive end is more than negated when they can't defend and/or give up easy offensive rebounds and put backs.  Pretty much, everyone on this roster can score, but it's the ability to defend and rebound that gets you on the court.
Title: Re: we need jamil jones jump shot
Post by: GGGG on December 09, 2010, 02:48:13 PM
my thing is, we need to get some guys in there to see if they can bang down the three.  djo is presently in about an 11 game slump.  we need to give a few guys some at bats.  buzz should put a few of these guys in with some specific plays to free them up for a three.  we've got to see who can knock them down besides jae, dwight and maybe reggie.  can't have the other team campin.  no one has really stepped forward as the go to 3 guy

You do realize that basketball is more than scoring right???
Title: Re: we need jamil jones jump shot
Post by: 79Warrior on December 09, 2010, 02:51:56 PM
my thing is, we need to get some guys in there to see if they can bang down the three.  djo is presently in about an 11 game slump.  we need to give a few guys some at bats.  buzz should put a few of these guys in with some specific plays to free them up for a three.  we've got to see who can knock them down besides jae, dwight and maybe reggie.  can't have the other team campin.  no one has really stepped forward as the go to 3 guy

Seems to me Jones has not earned the right to replace anyone yet.
Title: Re: we need jamil jones jump shot
Post by: NickelDimer on December 09, 2010, 03:30:19 PM
Jones clearly hasn't earned the right to play, but what's the deal with EW?  If he can't even get garbage minutes now I have to wonder if he'll ever contribute.
Title: Re: we need jamil jones jump shot
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on December 09, 2010, 03:37:23 PM
It's now or never for Eric Williams!
Title: Re: we need jamil jones jump shot
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 09, 2010, 03:41:16 PM
Regarding EWill, the conventional wisdom is that if the light doesn't go on at the start of the second year, it ain't gonna go on.  I hope that's not the case, since everything that I've heard about EWill is that he's a great kid.  

My guess is that with EWill the problem isn't lack of effort but probably too much effort.  Trying too hard and thinking too much will slow down anyone's game.

Late breaking news: Tim Maymon is trying to contact Buzz to let him know that EWill's problems will vanish if he's switched to off guard.
Title: Re: we need jamil jones jump shot
Post by: DaCoach on December 09, 2010, 05:58:46 PM
Jones is a very soft player. Until he shows the toughness needed to play in the BE, he'll remain at the end of the bench.
Title: Re: we need jamil jones jump shot
Post by: mosarsour on December 10, 2010, 11:17:49 AM
I don't think it's realistic to expect that a true freshman at the end of the bench is going to be a silver bullet for our current outside shooting woes, much less that he's necessarily a net positive to replace any of those guys on both ends of the floor.

See: Novak, Steve circa 2002-03.

Title: Re: we need jamil jones jump shot
Post by: 79Warrior on December 10, 2010, 11:38:55 AM
See: Novak, Steve circa 2002-03.


Novak was no where near the end of the bench. Not even a worthy comparision
Title: Re: we need jamil jones jump shot
Post by: groove on December 10, 2010, 11:54:56 AM
He's taken 5 shots, 2 from three-point range and made one. Where have you seen this outside shot? In summer pick-up games? high school youtube highlights? midnight madness? shoot arounds? or have you been with Buzz in practice watching what he can do?