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Hangin' at the Al / Re: Crean vs Buzz vs Wojo vs Shaka
« Last post by 4everwarriors on Today at 05:34:01 AM »
Crean sucks
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Hangin' at the Al / Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Last post by 1SE on Today at 05:22:49 AM »
I wasn't the thread creator, but I have the second post and updated it with the current schedule and known dates.

We will also be hosting a 3-game home MTE (teams unknown).
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Thanks!
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The Superbar / Re: Marquette Crime Reports
« Last post by Mutaman on Today at 12:07:07 AM »
if a doctor causes harm on a patient, they are held responsible and rightly so.  so should judges and anyone else associated with releasing a felon.

Maybe the dumbest analogy in the history of social media.
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The Superbar / Re: Marquette Crime Reports
« Last post by Jay Bee on May 04, 2024, 10:18:10 PM »
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The Superbar / Re: Bodhana Sivanandan
« Last post by MuggsyB on May 04, 2024, 10:16:46 PM »
She's a kid who plays chess.  Translating her chess play to anything but chess is infantile.

Chess takes tremendous focus and metal acuity. And you're belittling a 9yr old girl who's better at it than you, or I, or anyone here will be at anything in our lifetime. 
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The Superbar / Re: 2023-24 NBA Thread
« Last post by MuggsyB on May 04, 2024, 10:11:39 PM »
Game 2 will be very interesting.  I think Denver's  injuries are a big problem defensively on Edwards.  Gordon can't guard him and KCP isn't right.  I also think the Lakers did not prepare Denver for this team.  They're much better than LA.  Jokic is going to have to dominate G2.   I would also probably hard double Ant and take my chances with his supporting cast. 
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Hangin' at the Al / Re: Crean vs Buzz vs Wojo vs Shaka
« Last post by MUDPT on May 04, 2024, 10:05:13 PM »
This is, of course, the point. Giving a coach “credit” for leaving behind 2 guys who
2 years later would form, on paper, the worst starting backcourt in Marquette history is absurd.
Mo Acker was a mid major recruit who got the opportunity to be a back up at MU because he was Jerel’s high school teammate at Hillcrest. His third year here (as a junior who had sat out a transfer year) he averaged 2.8 ppg, 1.4 rpg and 1.8 apg. IIRC, he was dismissed from the team after the season - and nobody cared. When it became clear by the end of summer that we had nobody to man the point Buzz invited him back.
Cubillan had been at MU for 3 years also. He had started one (1) game and as a junior averaged 1.6 ppg, .5 rpg and .7 apg.
I’m still amazed with what Buzz did with that team. So was all of college basketball. I’ve never heard TC get credit for that backcourt before. Only blame. As it should be.

Mo was MAC freshman of the year. There was obviously the Jerel connection, but I think he transferred out of Ball State after Buckley was fired. So there was that connection too.

Anyone else remember when Cubillan came in his freshman year, TC was playing him a ton at PG at the beginning of the season with Dom off guard?
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The Superbar / Re: Marquette Crime Reports
« Last post by WellsstreetWanderer on May 04, 2024, 10:03:45 PM »
Comes with room and board
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Hangin' at the Al / Re: Crean vs Buzz vs Wojo vs Shaka
« Last post by MU82 on May 04, 2024, 09:44:49 PM »
No. This was never about “credit.” It was Elon’s statement that it was left “EMPTY” in year two. It was not.

What Buzz did with that team was great. But he simply wasn’t left with an empty cupboard for his second year.

Which honestly is a strange metric anyway. I’ve clearly heard “he was left with an empty cupboard” before. But I don’t think I’ve heard “he was left with an empty cupboard for year two” before this topic.

But year two, the new coach can get his guys in the door. Just like Buzz and Shaka did.

I think we can all agree that Buzz left Shaka a totally empty cupboard.
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Hangin' at the Al / Re: Crean vs Buzz vs Wojo vs Shaka
« Last post by Lennys Tap on May 04, 2024, 09:40:37 PM »
No. This was never about “credit.” It was Elon’s statement that it was left “EMPTY” in year two. It was not.

What Buzz did with that team was great. But he simply wasn’t left with an empty cupboard for his second year.

Which honestly is a strange metric anyway. I’ve clearly heard “he was left with an empty cupboard” before. But I don’t think I’ve heard “he was left with an empty cupboard for year two” before this topic.

But year two, the new coach can get his guys in the door. Just like Buzz and Shaka did.


We’ll agree to disagree. Brew doesn’t just (wrongly) think Crean deserved credit, he thinks the fact that they (as last resorts) started proves he deserves credit. To me that’s pretzel logic.

Also, the landscape is much different today than it was 15 years ago. A lot more progress can be made before the start of year 2 today than was possible then.
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