Being reported on Twitter that Nunn will be visiting today. Another 2013 recruit. If we are booked for 2013 and we are still recruiting is the logical thought that Otule won't get his 6th year? Or does Hiroshima still have legs to it?
We have a long way to go before the Fall of 2013, and I think experience shows that rosters change a lot over 18 months.
**Have all 2012 players gotten through the clearinghouse? My understanding is that TJ Taylor is on campus, but I don't think the other newcomers are.
**History shows that we will likely have transfers out after next season.
**Otule isn't official yet.
**All 2013 recruits have to qualify and McKay has to earn his associates degree.
Long way to go...
Being reported on Twitter that Nunn will be visiting today. Another 2013 recruit. If we are booked for 2013 and we are still recruiting is the logical thought that Otule won't get his 6th year? Or does Hiroshima still have legs to it?I do not hink Hiroshma is over with yet. I think Otule would almost for sure be granted a 6th year. However, I think another injury and he is done or he may want to do a 5th year transfer like Lockett.
We going to know by the end of the summer on Mayo?
Nunn would obviously be a nice pick-up. But I would really like to see us add some frontcourt size. That will continue to be our weakness.
Start expecting to see 1 early NBA entrant per season going forward.
Mayo and/or Jamil Wilson could be playing their last year in an MU jersey if either takes their game to another level.
What from last year did you see from Mayo that makes you think he is not only NBA talent, but early entry talent? Jamil Wilson I think at least has a chance( a very small one) of maybe leaving early if he develops an awesome perimiterr shot, but Mayo I just don't see playing in the NBA period, let alone after this season.
Mayo has NBA athleticism, the ability to create his own shots, and no fear to take those shots with the game on the line. Not to mention that he was one of our better defenders last year as a freshman.
He has NBA caliber talent, he just needs to develop NBA skills. If he sticks around, he will get drafted. Not sure about leaving early though, too early to tell.
What from last year did you see from Mayo that makes you think he is not only NBA talent, but early entry talent? Jamil Wilson I think at least has a chance( a very small one) of maybe leaving early if he develops an awesome perimiterr shot, but Mayo I just don't see playing in the NBA period, let alone after this season.
Wilson is a pro.
Mayo is not.
In your eyes, Mayo is not an NBA talent. I don't know, I am not a NBA talent evaluator as some of you claim to be, but he will be playing pro ball somewhere so if he gets paid to play, he will be a pro. ;)
My guess is that it will be sooner than later.
Very well said. I don't know if Mayo will ever play in the league, but he definitely will get paid to play basketball. I believe he will play for Marquette in 2012-13. Beyond that, I consider anything we get from him to be gravy. Considering his age and pedigree, I don't expect him to play 4 years. That does not mean I think he will be drafted, but I do think he'll roll those dice before his 4 years are up.
I believe that they are planning as if this upcoming year will be Vander's last year. He is high interest in NBA and will likely go that route following this year based on what I have heard.Don't see it within that time frame.
I believe that they are planning as if this upcoming year will be Vander's last year. He is high interest in NBA and will likely go that route following this year based on what I have heard.
You're kidding right? There isn't much (outside of his fastbreak throwdown @ MSG against Washington last year) that tells me Vander is NBA ready now...or in the future.
Looks like we've identified the really good player that Buzz had alluded to last week. This would make the 2013 class perfection.
We have had the Vander NBA debate many times and do not disagree that he is not ready at this point. However, just because we agree on his readiness does not mean others feel the same way. I heard from reliable source that he has high interest in testing the waters next spring.I do too, but that means zilch. Especially for me.
You're kidding right? There isn't much (outside of his fastbreak throwdown @ MSG against Washington last year) that tells me Vander is NBA ready now...or in the future.
Why, whenever we have a player who's just pretty good or shown some promise, do we immediately jump to "he'll probably leave early for the NBA"?
No Marquette player since Dwyane F'ing Wade has left early (and who before him?)! So pardon my doubt, but it is comical to start assuming any player on this roster is leaving early.
Testing the waters is one thing.....declaring and going undrafted is another.
As of right now we have nobody on the roster that is a sure fire NBA player. Time will tell if any of them develope into one.
DJO needed a year of JC and 3 years at MU to turn himself into a 2nd rounder. Vander and Mayo have a long way to go to match the production that DJO had as a senior.
Why not revisit this discussion after one of them has a big year and impresses the scouts? As of now there really is no discusssion....neither one of them is close to an NBA player as of today.
Agree, except to point out that guys who have all of the "measureables" going against them (DJO, Crowder, etc) need better production over a longer period of time for NBA scouts to take notice. Given his size, speed, quickness, etc Vander won't need DJO's numbers to turn the scouts' heads. A marked improvement in his outside shot and finishing ability (he already gets to the rim at will) would mean first round IMO.
All it takes is one breakout year by either Vander or Jamil and I can see both at least testing the waters. However, IMO it will take a clear leap to get to that next level.I could be worng, but I do not think you can test the waters anymore. Prior to this year you could comeback, if you did not hire an agent and withdrew your name by a certain date. I thought the new agreement was that if you declare you cannot change your mind.
We have had the Vander NBA debate many times and do not disagree that he is not ready at this point. However, just because we agree on his readiness does not mean others feel the same way. I heard from reliable source that he has high interest in testing the waters next spring.Then he must be planning on having a breakout year.
I could be worng, but I do not think you can test the waters anymore. Prior to this year you could comeback, if you did not hire an agent and withdrew your name by a certain date. I thought the new agreement was that if you declare you cannot change your mind.
Anxious to learn how Nunn's visit went. He will make a great Warrior!
Vander leaving early for the NBA??? You must be joking. Until he learn to hit a jumper or finish at the hoop, it will never happen. Sorry, but he is a complete liability on offense. That must change for him to ever sniff the NBA.
Hey... anyone can "leave" for the NBA anytime. Doesn't matter how good you are, just as long as you're way better than Kyrie Irving.
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With that tidbit, let me also express my opinion that the only way Vander, Todd or anyone leaves MU early is if they actually have a chance in being a first-rounder. And if they do, 2012-13 is going to be one hell of a year.
A marked improvement in his outside shot and finishing ability (he already gets to the rim at will) would mean first round IMO.
To say that Blue needs a "marked improvement" to his outside shot is a colossal understatement. By about the same ratio Rosanne Barr needs marked improvement physically to be as attractive as Kate Upton. Not saying it is impossible, but I wouldn't put any money on it.
To say that Blue needs a "marked improvement" to his outside shot is a colossal understatement. By about the same ratio Rosanne Barr needs marked improvement physically to be as attractive as Kate Upton. Not saying it is impossible, but I wouldn't put any money on it.
Well, he went from being someone we needed to sub out when other teams had to foul to being our best clutch free throw shooter so I don't think it's as unlikely as that.I'm just saying that as of March 2012 he did not have a reliable open jump shot from even 5 feet, meaning that if in the course of half court offense if he took an open shot from 5 feet away he was much more likely to miss it than make it. He has a very, very long way to go. I agree with you that his foul shooting improved last season.
I'm just saying that as of March 2012 he did not have a reliable open jump shot from even 5 feet, meaning that if in the course of half court offense if he took an open shot from 5 feet away he was much more likely to miss it than make it. He has a very, very long way to go. I agree with you that his foul shooting improved last season.
Back to Nunn's visit. Is it odd that Buzz mentioned on Homer's show that a "really good player" was visiting the campus? I don't recall him ever doing that before. He must be feeling pretty confident.
I believe that they are planning as if this upcoming year will be Vander's last year. He is high interest in NBA and will likely go that route following this year based on what I have heard.
Buzz's remarks struck me the same way. My fingers are crossed that the 2013 class will be MU's best in a long, long time.
a high-major school and they’re what I’m looking for. I want an up-tempo style, a school where I can come in and play and a school that will help me develop.”agreed, and as for a scholarship being available, when the #22 player in the country according to Rivals wants to visit, you know there will be a spot one way or the other. Rivals technically has him as a 4-star because it's early, but if they keep him at #22 then he will be a Rivals 5-start - the second we've ever gotten (Vander Blue).
If you take this quote and put marquette as the opening word it still makes sense. All Im saying is that there's s a chance
Why, whenever we have a player who's just pretty good or shown some promise, do we immediately jump to "he'll probably leave early for the NBA"?
No Marquette player since Dwyane F'ing Wade has left early (and who before him?)! So pardon my doubt, but it is comical to start assuming any player on this roster is leaving early.
Doc Rivera dickhead. Read a book
PLEASE, PLEASE KENDRICK NUNN WEAR THE MARQUETTE COLORS.
I doubt Buzz is feeling all that confident
http://recruitingspotlight.wordpress.com/2012/06/11/nunn-hoping-uk-gets-involved-wants-to-visit-ucla/
If you are going to insult the guy for forgetting someone, it is probably best not to misspell "Rivers" in the process.
You may wish to proofread for punctuation gaffes, as well. Commas help to clarify one's meaning.
a high-major school and they’re what I’m looking for. I want an up-tempo style, a school where I can come in and play and a school that will help me develop.”I do not think we are a high major school in Nunn's mind. Only people here think we are high major. The difference between us and Kentucky comes down to the fact that Nunn would be a great get for us and chump change for Kentucky.
If you take this quote and put marquette as the opening word it still makes sense. All Im saying is that there's s a chance
I do not think we are a high major school in Nunn's mind. Only peole here think we are high major. The difference between us and Kentucky comes down to the fact that Nunn would be a great get for us and chump change for Kentucky.
Exactly, though some may argue we are high major and Kentucky is elite. The other difference between us and Kentucky is the amount of "scholarship" money available.
Any word on how Nunn's visit went?
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Duane Wilson @_IGotTheJuice1
S/o to my mans @KNunnSG. He loved his visit to Mu yesterday. Let's show him love so he can commit. Best back court in the country. #mubb
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Duane Wilson @_IGotTheJuice1
S/o to my mans @KNunnSG. He loved his visit to Mu yesterday. Let's show him love so he can commit. Best back court in the country. #mubb
Perfect use of the Twitta Tracka, You should hold monthly webinars to teach others.
He obviously WANTS to commit.
Agree, except to point out that guys who have all of the "measureables" going against them (DJO, Crowder, etc) need better production over a longer period of time for NBA scouts to take notice. Given his size, speed, quickness, etc Vander won't need DJO's numbers to turn the scouts' heads. A marked improvement in his outside shot and finishing ability (he already gets to the rim at will) would mean first round IMO.
My use of the comma was proper but not mandatory. It was setting off an introductory element from the rest of the sentence.
I think that WildBill was referring to muhoops1 post where the first sentence went, "Doc Rivera dickhead" which without a comma implies that Doc is a ........
I think that WildBill was referring to muhoops1 post where the first sentence went, "Doc Rivera dickhead" which without a comma implies that Doc is a ........
Per Harv and Roy (Ill Bullseye), Nunn on an unofficial today at DePaul
ilprepbullseye.com
Per Harv and Roy (Ill Bullseye), Nunn on an unofficial today at DePaul
ilprepbullseye.com
Perhaps he was passing through on his way to see Conan O'Brien...
Per Harv and Roy (Ill Bullseye), Nunn on an unofficial today at DePaul
ilprepbullseye.com
Sound like his Dad is ready to commit - hope Kendrick is on the same page.
I think it sounds like they're very happy with MU, but are going to wait to hear from UCLA and UNC.
Has anyone told Nunn yet that despite playing the Big East, despite playing for a great coach like Buzz, despite playing in a NBA arena, despite travelling by charter to all games, he might have to live in a dorm like other Freshmen? Someone please conceal from him as long as possible so we still have a chance before we become SLUesque.Give it a rest, dude.
Give it a rest, dude.
As soon as the chick little brigade does, I will be happy to comply. I've never seen a group of pity party fans that constantly look for anything to blame for the impending collapse of the program that hasn't happened.Your d-baggery continues to amaze.
As soon as the chick little brigade does, I will be happy to comply. I've never seen a group of pity party fans that constantly look for anything to blame for the impending collapse of the program that hasn't happened.
I think all of you idiots need to stop fighting with each other over stupid crap. You're killing good threads.
I think all of you idiots need to stop fighting with each other over stupid crap. You're killing good threads.
You're moved well past the tiresome point and on to just sort of sad, taking any small negative comment and turning it into your personal wardrum to beat just to wind people up. Do you really get such joy out of trying to belabor the same couple arguments for days, weeks, and sometimes even months on end? Your backyard must look like a horse graveyard, because I think you've beaten just about every one in existence to death.
As soon as the chick little brigade does, I will be happy to comply. I've never seen a group of pity party fans that constantly look for anything to blame for the impending collapse of the program that hasn't happened.
You're like a kindergartner complaining that "they started it!!!"
Back to the topic. A class of Dunn, Wilson, Burton, and McKay would have to rival that of any other in recent MU history. Obviously, they won't hit campus for a long time and can't really be judged until their careers are over, but it's fun to think about. Of course, there are some in the late 60's/70's that were epic, but those are before my time.
Other recent classes that compare:
2000: Wade,Blankson, Merritt, Sanders
2005: James, Matthews, McNeal, Burke,Mortensen
2009: DJO, Buycks, Junior,Maymon,E Will,Mbao,Roseboro
2010: Crowder, Blue, Gardner, J Wilson,J Jones,Smith,Newbill
Just an opinion, but I get the feeling Nunn wants to play for a blueblood (UNC, UCLA). He even brought up Kentucky's name unannounced in that other article. Would love for him to come here, though.
A huge one that stopped MU's descent into Loyola-Chicago/Detroit status:
1990: McIlvaine, Key, Logterman, Brakes
My point is, if you have the chance to go to UNC or UCLA, you take it. Schools like those offer so much in terms of exposure, tradition, academics, facilities, location, and weather.
Very good class and maybe one of the most important ever at MU given the circumstances. Seems like we get a conference player of the year in every recruiting year ending in 0.
90-McIlvain
00-Wade
10-Crowder
Hopefully we don't have to wait until 2020 to get another!
Hopefully
Of course MU brings a lot to the table, but I'm also realistic. In the NCAA, there's an adult table and a kiddie table. At the adult table, you find schools like UNC, Duke, Kentucky, UCLA, and Indiana (sorry guys). At the kiddie table, you find schools like MU.
Has anyone told Nunn yet that despite playing the Big East, despite playing for a great coach like Buzz, despite playing in a NBA arena, despite travelling by charter to all games, he might have to live in a dorm like other Freshmen? Someone please conceal from him as long as possible so we still have a chance before we become SLUesque.
You're like a kindergartner complaining that "they started it!!!"
You're moved well past the tiresome point and on to just sort of sad, taking any small negative comment and turning it into your personal wardrum to beat just to wind people up. Do you really get such joy out of trying to belabor the same couple arguments for days, weeks, and sometimes even months on end? Your backyard must look like a horse graveyard, because I think you've beaten just about every one in existence to death.
Yes, there are two tables. About 10 elite programs sit at the adult table. About 15-20 programs (including MU) sit at the kiddie table. The others aren't sitting at either table."
It is a small negative comment in this one instance, but a cascade of them constantly from this same group. The constant bashing of MU, the constant doom and gloom, the constant we are going to end up in the gutter of programs. Have some damn faith. Excuse me for exploiting their negativity, but these guys do nothing but live for excuses on what might happen, what could happen. Do they run around with hard hats on during the day for fear a meteorite is going to hit them? Have some damn faith in one of the best programs in the country with one of the best coaches leading it. The collective negativity sucks and needs to be called out.
Did we get Nunn yet?
Nunn-ya business.
Do you think he's a Nunn-and-done type player?
It is a small negative comment in this one instance, but a cascade of them constantly from this same group. The constant bashing of MU, the constant doom and gloom, the constant we are going to end up in the gutter of programs. Have some damn faith. Excuse me for exploiting their negativity, but these guys do nothing but live for excuses on what might happen, what could happen. Do they run around with hard hats on during the day for fear a meteorite is going to hit them? Have some damn faith in one of the best programs in the country with one of the best coaches leading it. The collective negativity sucks and needs to be called out.And you're just the guy to do it, aren't you?
Would love to land this guy. Heard he is great on and off the floor. In fact, he did a great job in his high school's production of Nunnsense.
I heard he was taking some time off from AAU ball this summer to do a mini-tour with his 90's soft pop cover band Sixpence Nunn the Richer. Any truth to this?
North Carolina might have start worrying about their recruiting taking a hit because of their ongoing academic scandal(s). this mostly involves the football progrgam but some Bball players are alleged to have taken part.
The collective negativity sucks and needs to be called out.
Uhh...right. There's more comments of things being "SLUesque", "Hiroshima", or "Notre Dame" coming from posters like you who feel this overwhelming need to call others out than there are comments of negativity in the first place. By trying to make this website into a parody of the people you are targeting, you have inadvertnunnly made your own views into the parody. Most threads here are going off-topic and becoming unreadable not because of the negativity, but because of the proactive attacks on said negativity before it even appears in the thread.
Fixed, so as to remain consistent with the new theme of the thread.
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Who knows how the recruiting of Nunn will pan out, but it's encouraging to see how an elite recruit (or his dad) views Marquette and the state of the program. After the Wilson siging I thought MU was going to be done with Nunn, but it looks like the situation has only gotten stronger. Hopefully location comes into play for his parents.
Well, we have been down this road before with recruits ranked even higher than Nunn. (Snaer, Quincy Miller) Nunn would be an excellent addition, but he is ranked about where Burton is.
Uhh...right. There's more comments of things being "SLUesque", "Hiroshima", or "Notre Dame" coming from posters like you who feel this overwhelming need to call others out than there are comments of negativity in the first place. By trying to make this website into a parody of the people you are targeting, you have inadvertently made your own views into the parody. Most threads here are going off-topic and becoming unreadable not because of the negativity, but because of the proactive attacks on said negativity before it even appears in the thread.
It makes me a little uneasy that his father talks about this as a "we" decision (for obvious reasons, I'd think), even though it often is for many players. Mr. Nunn has watched this program for several years, though, and surely knows exactly what his son can expect as far as playing time. Buzz was still a newbie when Maymon came on board.
That is Nunnsense and a complete Nunnstarter.
It makes me a little uneasy that his father talks about this as a "we" decision (for obvious reasons, I'd think), even though it often is for many players. Mr. Nunn has watched this program for several years, though, and surely knows exactly what his son can expect as far as playing time. Buzz was still a newbie when Maymon came on board.
It makes me a little uneasy that his father talks about this as a "we" decision (for obvious reasons, I'd think), even though it often is for many players. Mr. Nunn has watched this program for several years, though, and surely knows exactly what his son can expect as far as playing time. Buzz was still a newbie when Maymon came on board.
It makes me a little uneasy that his father talks about this as a "we" decision (for obvious reasons, I'd think), even though it often is for many players. Mr. Nunn has watched this program for several years, though, and surely knows exactly what his son can expect as far as playing time. Buzz was still a newbie when Maymon came on board.I thought it was good for MU. The fact that his father is involved leads me to believe he will want to watch his son play, so playing close to home is important. Also, given what he said about DePaul and Illinois the only close to home school option at this point is MU. As long as Kentucky does not come calling, I feel we are in great shape.
https://twitter.com/Hoopniks/status/214070665995751424
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https://twitter.com/Hoopniks/status/214070665995751424
Stupid question, but does anyone know when Nunn is likely to announce a decision? Obviously after he's *made* a decision, but...
Stupid question, but does anyone know when Nunn is likely to announce a decision? Obviously after he's *made* a decision, but...