Oso planning to go pro
1. Deep Nov. Tournament runs - 02. 10 + Conference wins per season - 2 out of 63. Big East regular season Championships - 0 4. Big East Tournament Championships - 05. NCAA appearances - 2 out of 5 (I also don't think they would have made it last year, but wont include it)6. NCAA tournament Wins - 07. Advancing to the second weekend of the tournament - 08. Consistently ranked in the top 25 - 1 of 6 seasons9. Ensure the team plays their best basketball in Feb. & March - 0 out of 6 In addition:1. Wojo team's never get "old" due to transfer2. Lack of team identity year-over-year3. Cant keep the locker room in check - leads to Hauser's transferring (Remember Markus even spent Thanksgivings with the Hauser Family at one point)4. Lack of in-game adjustments
Your post is my new signature.
Wojo has completed six seasons.Here is the first six seasons of a current BE coach.Who is it? Hint, you would trade Wojo for him in a hot second?2010–11 13–17 7–11 12th 2011–12 21–13 8–10 10th NIT Second Round2012–13 15–18 3–15 13th 2013–14 17–17 6–12 8th 2014–15 16–15 6–12 T–7th 2015–16 25–9 12–6 3rd NCAA Round of 64
Gotta be Willard.
Correct!After Willard's first six seasons ....2016–17 21–12 10–8 T–3rd NCAA Round of 642017–18 22–12 10–8 T–3rd NCAA Round of 322018–19 20–14 9–9 T–3rd NCAA Round of 642019–20 21–9 13–5 T-1st NCAA Canceled2020–21 8–4 5–1 (through yesterday)---------So all this trolling above about being done with Wojo (we all know they are not) ... Wojo is got a great class this year and is on some really good players in future classes.It would be program suicide to dump him now.
Program suicide?
Absoutely ... if you fire him, 3/4 of the team transfers out and we have two sub .500 season as the new guy starts all over.And who is this new guy that magically takes you farther than Wojo before Season 7? Remember when Buzz left and Ben Howland went out of his way to call MU and say he was interested? A guy with three final fours on his resume. Here is what he's done at Mississippi State (conf SEC)2015–16 14–17 7–11 11th 2016–17 16–16 6–12 12th 2017–18 25–12 9–9 T–7th NIT Semifinal2018–19 23–11 10–8 T–6th NCAA Division I Round of 642019–20 20–11 11–7 T–4th Postseason cancelled†2020–21 Mississippi State 5–3 0–0 (through yesterday)So, I ask again ... who is this magic coach that is going to make things better in the next five years if you dump Wojo? Not only Willard, go look at Wright and Greg McDermott's first six seasons as a head coach. Wojo is right with them. Wojo still has a high ceiling.
What makes you think Wojo can achieve results different results moving forward than he has the last six seasons?
What makes you think Wojo can achieve results different results moving forward than he has the last six seasons? Ben Howland has definitely improved Mississippi St. too. Can’t say the same for Wojo.
I mean, this year hasn't been encouraging, but there are a lot of games left if they can pull it together...
He's recruiting better players. He's making real traction in getting into the top players in the country. See Garcia and Lewis, and even DJ Carton.
Color me doubtful that the light switch just somehow flips on after seven years for him.
It took his mentor, Coach K, 10 years before the light switch went off.1975–76 Army 11–14 1976–77 Army 20–8 1977–78 Army 19–9 NIT First Round1978–79 Army 14–11 1979–80 Army 9–17 Duke Blue Devils (Atlantic Coast Conference) (1980–present)1980–81 Duke 17–13 6–8 T–5th NIT Quarterfinal1981–82 Duke 10–17 4–10 T–6th 1982–83 Duke 11–17 3–11 7th 1983–84 Duke 24–10 7–7 T–3rd NCAA Division I Round of 321984–85 Duke 23–8 8–6 T–4th NCAA Division I Round of 32Then ...1985–86 Duke 37–3 12–2 1st NCAA Division I Runner-up1986–87 Duke 24–9 9–5 3rd NCAA Division I Sweet 161987–88 Duke 28–7 9–5 3rd NCAA Division I Final Four1988–89 Duke 28–8 9–5 T–2nd NCAA Division I Final Four1989–90 Duke 29–9 9–5 2nd NCAA Division I Runner-up1990–91 Duke 32–7 11–3 1st NCAA Division I Champion1991–92 Duke 34–2 14–2 1st NCAA Division I Champion
Modern day college basketball is slightly different than the time frame you’re referencing.
Not when it comes to a coach figuring it out.
A more recent example ... Jay WrightHe did not win his first NCAA tournament game until his 11th season as a head coach.1994–95 Hofstra 10–18 5–11 9th 1995–96 Hofstra 9–18 5–12 T–7th 1996–97 Hofstra 12–15 9–9 4th 1997–98 Hofstra 19–12 11–7 T–3rd 1998–99 Hofstra 22–10 14–4 3rd NIT First Round1999–00 Hofstra 24–7 16–2 1st NCAA Division I First Round2000–01 Hofstra 26–5 16–2 1st NCAA Division I First RoundVillanova Wildcats (Big East Conference[a]) (2001–present)2001–02 Villanova 19–13 7–9 5th NIT Quarterfinal2002–03 Villanova 15–16 8–8 T–3rd NIT First Round2003–04 Villanova 18–17 6–10 11th NIT Quarterfinal2004–05 Villanova 24–8 11–5 T–3rd NCAA Division I Sweet 162005–06 Villanova 28–5 14–2 T–1st NCAA Division I Elite Eight
A different way of looking at it. He dominated the colonial conference with Hofstra and then he took a step up to an average Nova program and in four seasons took them to their first tournament since 1998. He didn’t look back after that. What track record of success has Wojo had? Recruiting victories don’t count.