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Re: SOTG
« Reply #50 on: February 01, 2020, 06:43:07 PM »
Lotsa Scoopers choose SOTGOTM.
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Re: SOTG
« Reply #51 on: February 01, 2020, 06:51:55 PM »
Not adding anything new, but Markus. Honorable mention to Jayce and Koby. We don't win without any of them.

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Re: SOTG
« Reply #52 on: February 01, 2020, 06:56:15 PM »
Markus Howard. We should cherish him so much for his incredible play.

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Re: SOTG
« Reply #53 on: February 01, 2020, 06:59:03 PM »

This is really a no brainer. Markus.

Jayce really was  superb!

But Markus Is the player of the game.

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Re: SOTG
« Reply #54 on: February 01, 2020, 07:27:48 PM »
This game would have been over at halftime without Markus.

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Re: SOTG
« Reply #55 on: February 01, 2020, 07:30:29 PM »
Markus
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Re: SOTG
« Reply #56 on: February 01, 2020, 07:50:49 PM »
I voted Markus but disagree with all the people saying that it's not even close.  Markus scored 8 points in the last 2:30 (6 of which were from the line), say those points got split up between Koby and Sacar (they've certainly proved they can be clutch too), Markus would have finished with 23 points.  Still most on the team, but considering that he had either 19 or 21 at half (I can't remember) it would have meant that we made our comeback largely without him scoring (he did have a few nice dimes).  Now Markus did score those points down the stretch so he's more than deserving, but if a SOTG is still up for grabs with 2:30 left to play then I think a fairly strong argument can be made that is not in fact "not even close".
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

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Re: SOTG
« Reply #57 on: February 01, 2020, 07:59:51 PM »
Markus

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Wojo - was fortunate to get invited to sit in some pretty incredible seats today. Almost every timeout Prusetti (I think) goes over to the ref and has a nice, polite, calm discussion with the refs (I think I saw some of this from Killings from his “mic’d up” section on Inside Marquette a few years ago and he talked to the refs about what they’re seeing and nicely asked them to watch whatever...). At about the 10ish minute mark Wojo snapped at the ref going into the TO, the ref snapped back and looked like he wanted Wojo to elevate it and T him up, Wojo stepped that way but just turned and went back into the huddle. I remember DePaul having 3 team fouls at the time. Very quickly we were in the double bonus.
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Re: SOTG
« Reply #58 on: February 01, 2020, 08:03:00 PM »
Jayce was awesome.  Marcus as usual and great job by Koby. 

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« Reply #59 on: February 01, 2020, 09:02:22 PM »
I voted Markus but disagree with all the people saying that it's not even close.  Markus scored 8 points in the last 2:30 (6 of which were from the line), say those points got split up between Koby and Sacar (they've certainly proved they can be clutch too), Markus would have finished with 23 points.  Still most on the team, but considering that he had either 19 or 21 at half (I can't remember) it would have meant that we made our comeback largely without him scoring (he did have a few nice dimes).  Now Markus did score those points down the stretch so he's more than deserving, but if a SOTG is still up for grabs with 2:30 left to play then I think a fairly strong argument can be made that is not in fact "not even close".


I think it's also the 40 minutes and the busted face thing that make it not even close. Jayce played 17 minutes, not even close to Markus, and I'm pretty sure he wasn't wearing a mask.

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Re: SOTG
« Reply #60 on: February 01, 2020, 09:04:04 PM »
Markus!

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« Reply #61 on: February 01, 2020, 09:38:41 PM »


I think it's also the 40 minutes and the busted face thing that make it not even close. Jayce played 17 minutes, not even close to Markus, and I'm pretty sure he wasn't wearing a mask.

What facial accessories you may or may not be wearing should have no impact on SOTG.  Also, yes, Markus played all 40, but I kinda wished he hadn't.  There were more than a couple of possessions where Markus ran down, sat in the corner, and didn't move for 30 seconds.  If you're gonna just take possessions off, do it tactfully by subbing out just before a media TO.
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

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Re: SOTG
« Reply #62 on: February 01, 2020, 09:51:05 PM »
What facial accessories you may or may not be wearing should have no impact on SOTG.  Also, yes, Markus played all 40, but I kinda wished he hadn't.  There were more than a couple of possessions where Markus ran down, sat in the corner, and didn't move for 30 seconds.  If you're gonna just take possessions off, do it tactfully by subbing out just before a media TO.

It wasn't so much the mask as it was the busted face, and I'm guessing during those extra 23 minutes Markus at least had to play defense in between loafing on offense.

If it was stud of less than half of the game, then yeah, it would be close.

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« Reply #63 on: February 01, 2020, 10:01:56 PM »
It wasn't so much the mask as it was the busted face, and I'm guessing during those extra 23 minutes Markus at least had to play defense in between loafing on offense.

If it was stud of less than half of the game, then yeah, it would be close.

Once again, I voted for Markus (as much as you can vote in a dictatorship), because he earned it down the stretch, however, for the first 17:30 of the second half, he did only score 2 points (side note, had we lost, how much would people be ripping him for that).  My whole point is, had he not hit 1 shot + 6 fts in the last 150 seconds, a very strong case can be made for Jayce.  Minutes played are a very small factor in SOTG, Bailey was 2nd in minutes played, and played fine defense from what I saw, but he was no where near stud worthy.
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

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Re: SOTG
« Reply #64 on: February 01, 2020, 10:09:54 PM »
Once again, I voted for Markus (as much as you can vote in a dictatorship), because he earned it down the stretch, however, for the first 17:30 of the second half, he did only score 2 points (side note, had we lost, how much would people be ripping him for that).  My whole point is, had he not hit 1 shot + 6 fts in the last 150 seconds, a very strong case can be made for Jayce.  Minutes played are a very small factor in SOTG, Bailey was 2nd in minutes played, and played fine defense from what I saw, but he was no where near stud worthy.

I'm half messing with you, but seriously, Markus also has to deal with being the focus of the other teams defense so sometimes his drop in production could be a consequence of that unwanted attention. Jayce was great today but i don't think DePaul game planned specifically to stop him.

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« Reply #65 on: February 01, 2020, 10:12:37 PM »
I'm half messing with you, but seriously, Markus also has to deal with being the focus of the other teams defense so sometimes his drop in production could be a consequence of that unwanted attention. Jayce was great today but i don't think DePaul game planned specifically to stop him.

I mean, I dont disagree, but I also dont really think the scouting report is at all relevant.  I doubt K-State had any clue who Jamal Cain was, and he earned his that game.
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

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Re: SOTG
« Reply #66 on: February 01, 2020, 10:21:21 PM »
I mean, I dont disagree, but I also dont really think the scouting report is at all relevant.  I doubt K-State had any clue who Jamal Cain was, and he earned his that game.

It's just another degree of difficulty Markus has to deal with, but I respect the hell out of a player that can legitimately challenge Markus for SOTG. I think more guys have to do it if Marquette is going to do anything special this season.

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« Reply #67 on: February 01, 2020, 11:31:02 PM »
I want to say Jayce because he was beastly at times, but it's Markus. We would have been dead in the water without him the first half.
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Re: SOTG
« Reply #68 on: February 02, 2020, 02:48:27 AM »
I thought Markus really did a good job of getting others involved in the 2nd half which I’m sure was by design so well done Wojo. He draws so much attention that if he can get the pass off there is almost certainly going to be an open look. And he would have had 3 or 4 more dimes if guys could make open shots. Guys not making their open looks off his passes will cost him a few spots in the draft.

I cringed a bit when he started to hero ball about 5 minutes left. That drive into the trees which was stuffed down his throat was awful - but fortunately a W is a W and he’s the STOG
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Re: SOTG
« Reply #69 on: February 02, 2020, 07:22:53 AM »
Another reason I voted Jayce is he was super efficient, 5/5 FG in 19 minutes. He made most of every opportunity amd finished some difficult plays. Those weren’t all gimme baskets by any measure.

Markus was 33% from 3pt. His shot selection was not good in the first half either. Hiz 21 in that half was of course critical because no one other than Jayce was stepping up offensively, but he was also part of the reason the offense struggled in the first half too and Wojo had to change their approach in his halftime adjustments.

Wojo I thought coached a good game yesterday too. The halftime adjustment on offense and especially switch to zone late were critical. We finally started stringing together stops in zone.

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« Reply #70 on: February 02, 2020, 07:44:18 AM »
The game was won at the line. Markus and Koby were a combined 21 for 24.  The rest of the guys chipped in admirably at 8 for 11.  In crunch time, Markus forced his way there.  And we won as a result combined with some quality stops in the zone.  M2N.

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« Reply #71 on: February 02, 2020, 09:33:28 AM »
Guys not making their open looks off his passes will cost him a few spots in the draft.

NBA scouting is a lot more sophisticated and thorough than you think. Whether Markus averages 3 assists or 5 assists is not going to mean a thing to GMs and scouts who have been and will continue to analyze every minute of video on every potential draft target.

They will not just look at stat sheets and say, "Howard averaged only 3 assists while Player B averaged 4.5 assists, therefore we prefer Player B." They will analyze video and say, "That was a nice drive and dish by Howard even though #25 missed the shot," and then they will try to project if Markus will be able to make similar plays in the NBA.
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Re: SOTG
« Reply #72 on: February 03, 2020, 07:20:53 PM »
Lotsa Scoopers choose SOTGOTM.

Yes.  SOTGOTM was Jayce.  But otherwise...Markus.

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« Reply #73 on: February 03, 2020, 07:26:22 PM »
Yes.  SOTGOTM was Jayce.  But otherwise...Markus.
Does that mean of the moment?

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« Reply #74 on: February 03, 2020, 07:33:35 PM »
Does that mean of the moment?
OTM = Other Than Markus